Re: [MP3 ENCODER] side channel starving

2000-04-21 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne

Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
 
 At high frequencies, humans only decide direction of the sound by the
 relative left/right intensity, not by phase difference.

So this idea seems like the intensity stereo. In this case, why not
implementing intensity stereo?

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] side channel starving

2000-04-21 Thread Segher Boessenkool

 Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
  
  At high frequencies, humans only decide direction of the sound by the
  relative left/right intensity, not by phase difference.
 
 So this idea seems like the intensity stereo. In this case, why not
 implementing intensity stereo?
 

No, it's totally different :-)

Intensity stereo == panned mono.

Side channel starving == leaving out side channel samples that convey no
useful information.

Totally different :-)


IS sounds horrible, is only useful at very low bitrates. But it would be
nice to have it implemented, of course.


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Segher

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] side channel starving

2000-04-20 Thread Segher Boessenkool

  
  Hi all,
  
  Does lame implement side channel starving? If not, I'll volunteer :-)
  
  Ciao,
  
  Segher Boessenkool
  
 
 LAME has crude algorithm which allocates bits based on
 the energy contained in the side channel vs. mid channel.
 
 It definatly needs work: I have some test cases where LAME allocates
 too many bits to the side channel, and other test cases (like ftb_samp.wav)
 where it allocates too few.  

You could try allocating bits per sfband... sounds reasonable to me.

 
 I tried the side channel "sparsing" algorithm described in
 the ISO docs a long time ago, and it does not work at all.

That's strange... for me, it does work. Saves about 30% of bits as well.
I'll look into it tonight or something.

Dagdag,

Segher

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[MP3 ENCODER] side channel starving

2000-04-19 Thread Segher Boessenkool

Hi all,

Does lame implement side channel starving? If not, I'll volunteer :-)

Ciao,

Segher Boessenkool

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Re: [MP3 ENCODER] side channel starving

2000-04-19 Thread Mark Taylor

 
 Hi all,
 
 Does lame implement side channel starving? If not, I'll volunteer :-)
 
 Ciao,
 
 Segher Boessenkool
 

LAME has crude algorithm which allocates bits based on
the energy contained in the side channel vs. mid channel.

It definatly needs work: I have some test cases where LAME allocates
too many bits to the side channel, and other test cases (like ftb_samp.wav)
where it allocates too few.  

I tried the side channel "sparsing" algorithm described in
the ISO docs a long time ago, and it does not work at all.

Mark






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