RE: [Mpls] turnout
Regarding MoveOn.org in 8-7, I did notice that as I departed the Martin Luther King Park bldg a police car with lights flashing was driving away, & MoveOn was loading its stuff into a vehicle. So, perhaps they were in fact too close to the bldg & were ordered to move (On.org). I was either the 170th or 270th voter at 8:30. I am pretty certain who I voted for - I sure hope I didn't mark that Lyndon Larouche line. Bill Tetzlaff CPED Business Development 612-673-5168 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] turnout I voted at Brackett Field House at 8:30, waited about 10 minutes from start to finish, and was the 401st voter. What a turnout. Anne Johnson Cooper REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Activities at local Polling Places in Mpls
Ward 8-7 (Jeez, I thought I was still in the 10th Ward): I arrived about 8AM at Martin Luther King Park to see quite a long line - looked like folks waiting for a ride at Disneyworld. It took about 30 minutes to get thru and vote - I was on my way to work by 8:30. I saw what appeared to be one person sitting next to the voter registration table with a badge saying "Challenger," I think, but no one was registering at that time so I didn't observe any actual challenging. MoveOn.org had a table set up outside on Nicollet & was giving away bagels. As I don't like bagels much I didn't stop. Now if they'd had some healthy glazed donuts or chocolate croissants... Bill Tetzlaff Kingfield -Original Message- From: Shawn Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Activities at local Polling Places in Mpls I look forward to list member giving us updates on activities at various polling places throughout the City of Minneapolis. 2004 Polling Places Ward 1 Precinct: 1 - Golf Building, Columbia Park, 3300 Central Ave N E 2 - Waite Park, 1810 - 34th Ave N E 3 - Northeast Middle School, 2955 Hayes St N E (in Media Center) 4 - Audubon Park, 1320 - 29th Ave N E 5 - Windom Park Building, 2251 Hayes St N E (Hayes & 23rd - School Annex) 6 - Parker Skyview Highrise, 1815 Central Ave N E 7 - Tuttle School, 1042 - 18th Ave S E 8 - IBEW Local #160, 2522 Marshall St N E 9 - YMCA, 2304 Jackson St N E 10 - Holland Highrise, 1717 Washington St N E Ward 2 Precinct: 1 - Heltzer Manor Highrise, 2121 Minnehaha Ave 2 - Brackett Field House, 2728 - 39th Ave S 3 - Van Cleve Park, 901 - 15th Ave S E 4 - Coffman Union, 300 Washington Ave S E 5 - Sidney Pratt School, 66 Malcolm Ave S E 6 - St. Frances Cabrini Church, 1500 Franklin Ave S E 7 - Seward Square Apartments, 2121 - 9th St S 8 - Seven Corners Apartments, 1400 - 2nd St S 9 - Seward Towers East, 2910 Franklin Ave E 10 - Coyle Community Center, 420 - 15th Ave S 11 - Centennial Hall Library, 614 Delaware St S E Ward 3 Precinct: 1 - University Lutheran Church of Hope, 601 - 13th Ave S E 2 - First Congregational Church of MN, 500 - 8th Ave S E 3 - De LaSalle School, 1 De LaSalle Drive 4 - Spring Manor Highrise, 828 Spring St N E 5 - Dickman Park Highrise, 710 - 2nd St N E 6 - East Side Neighborhood Services, 1700 - 2nd St N E 7 - City View School, 3350 - 4th St N 8 - Farview Park, 609 - 29th Ave N 9 - Lynway Manor, 2415 - 3rd St N Ward 4 Precinct: 1 - Creek View Neighborhood Center, 5001 Irving Ave N 2 - Jenny Lind Elementary School, 5025 Bryant Ave N 3 - Shingle Creek Commons, 4600 Humboldt Ave N 4 - Loring Elementary School, 2600 - 44th Ave N 5 - Henry High School, 2020 - 43rd Ave N 6 - Hamilton Manor Highrise, 1314 - 44th Ave N 7 - Luther Memorial Church, 3751 Sheridan Ave N 8 - Parkway United Church of Christ, 3120 Washburn Ave N 9 - Folwell Park Field House, 1615 Dowling Ave N 10 - Oliver Manor Highrise, 3116 Oliver Ave N Ward 5 Precinct: 1 - Willard/Gordon Elementary School, 1616 Queen Ave N 2 - North Regional Library, 1315 Lowry Ave N 3 - Rainbow Terrace, 1710 Plymouth Ave N 4 - Pilot City Neighborhood Services, 1315 Penn Ave N 5 - Lyndale Manor Highrise, 600 - 18th Ave N 6 - W. Harry Davis Academy, 1510 Glenwood Ave N 7 - Phyllis Wheatley Community Center - Bethune Park , 915 Emerson Ave N 8 - Jordan New Life Community Church, 1922 - 25th Ave N 9 - Phyllis Wheatley Community Center - Bethune Park , 915 Emerson Ave N 10 - River of Life Lutheran Church, 2200 Fremont Ave N Ward 6 Precinct: 1 - Salem English Lutheran Church, 610 - 28th St W 2 - Whittier Park, 2600 Grand Ave S 3 - Minnesota Church Center, 122 Franklin Ave W (Use Pillsbury Ave Entrance) 4 - First Christian Church, 2201 - 1st Ave S 5 - Trinity First Lutheran Church, 1115 - 19th St E (Use Parking Lot Entrance) 6 - Pentagon Highrise, 1415 - 22nd St E 7 - Ebenezer Towers, 2523 Portland Ave S 8 - Ebenezer Park Apartments, 2700 Park Ave Ward 7 Precinct: 1 - Bryn Mawr School, 252 Upton Ave S 2 - St. Paul's Episcopal Church, 1917 Logan Ave S 3 - First Unitarian Society, 900 Mount Curve Ave 4 - Jones Harrison Residence, 3700 Cedar Lake Ave 5 - Oak Grove Towers, 215 Oak Grove St 6 - Towers Apartments (Lobby Annex), 19 - 1st St S 7 - Heritage Landing, 415 - 1st St N 8 - Emerson Elementary School, 1421 Spruce Place 9 - Central Lutheran Church, 333 - 12th St S 10 - Augustana Health Care Center, 1007 - 14th St E 11 - Fire Station #1, 530 - 3rd St S Ward 8 Precinct: 1 - Old Central Community Center (Gym), 3450 - 4th Ave S (use 4th Ave S entrance) 2 - Office of Indian Ministries, 3045 Park Ave 3 - Hosmer Library, 347 - 36th St E 4 - Holy Name Church, 3637 - 11th Ave S 5 - Sabathani Community Center, 310 - 38th St E 6 - Martin Luther King Park, 4055 Nicollet Ave 7 - Martin Luther King Park, 4055 Nicollet Ave 8 - Bancroft School, 1315 - 38th St E 9 - Bethel Evangelical Lutheran Churc
RE: [Mpls] Hey City Stage stiffs Minneapolis Taxpayers - Scandalous!
Here are some facts regarding Hey City: The MCDA (now the City) bought the building from Hirshfield's (spelled with no "c") in 1995 for $500,000. Acquisition financing consisted of $50,000 loaned to the MCDA by 2 nearby property owners, an additional $50,000 down payment, and a $400,000 contract for deed (as Mr. Luce said). The building was in turn leased to Hey City for 10 years at $11,041 per month, with options to extend. The acquisition and lease were approved by the MCDA Board on February 10, 1995. Real estate taxes have been paid by the Heys from the start of the lease. There was a guaranty by the Heys for an internal MCDA loan, but that guaranty has expired. Hey City was not "lured away" from 7 Corners. They were actively looking for a new and larger location in which to stage Tony & Tina's. And the 7 Corners landlord was not entirely privately financed. While the Heys estimate they've invested up to $2 million in the building, much of that investment has been to redo improvements specific to various performances, i.e., converting the space to allow the entire building to be used for Tony & Tina's, then later reconverting the space so each floor could be used separately & simultaneously for other shows. And I believe much of their investment went into furnishings and fixtures, such as tables, chairs, bar equipment, etc., much of which is not taxable. There are a number of other users such as the Fringe Festival that have sub-leases to use space in the Hey City building this summer and into early next year. We are making every effort to assure that these users will be able to use the space as planned. Bill Tetzlaff CPED Business Development 612-673-5168 -Original Message- From: Victoria Heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: Mpls Forum Subject: [Mpls] Hey City Stage stiffs Minneapolis Taxpayers - Scandalous! In 1995, the MCDA lured Hey City Stage from a privately owned building in 7 Corners to 824 Hennepin Avenue. I clearly remember the devastating blow this was to the West Bank because I owned a large apartment building within one block at the time. I also know the privately financed landlord who got the shaft from the City. Also, one of my part time employees worked for Sandy Hey and performed on stage in "Forever Plaid". I know quite a bit about this scandal. The Hennepin County Tax records show that Hirschfield's Inc. still owns the property, and "no sale information on file for this property." NO PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BEEN ASSESSED. Hey City Stage is shown as the taxpayer. The Minneapolis property records show Hey City Stage as the taxpayer and the CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE AS ZERO - SINCE 1994. The same report shows "estimated market value" of $268,000 for the building and $557,000 for the land. Further research on the City website shows a building value of $940,935 in 1995 when the building permit was issued. Subsequent permits were issued for remodeling worth $370,000 in 2000 and 2001, which would increase the building value to approximately $1.3 million, plus land. In other words, the current property value of 824 Hennepin should be around $2 million. Strib writer Rohan Preston states that "The city spent $900,000 to renovate the building. Hey said she has invested an additional $2 million." If Hey really invested an additional $2 million, she didn't apply for any permits. She didn't pay any taxes. Now, she is "terminating" her lease to the City. Too bad taxpayers - YOU GET THE FINGER. To calculate the TOTAL PUBLIC MONEY THAT WAS LOST ON THIS FIASCO, we must find out the following: How much did the MCDA pay Hirschfield's for the building in 1995? Why isn't this public knowledge like all private real estate transactions are? How much rent has Sandy Hey paid to the City since 1995? What are the terms of the lease to Hey City Stage? Are there personal guarantees? Is there a "termination clause"? Is Hey City Stage a 501C3 non-profit corporation? Why have NO PROPERTY TAXES BEEN PAID ON THIS PROPERTY? Do any theaters in Minneapolis pay property taxes? Please journalists, do your job. Find out these answers and share them with the public. Also find out how Ms. Hey "invested" the additional $2 million. Link to the Strib article: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1557/4847810.html Vicky Heller North Oaks and Cedar-Riverside REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Correction re MacPhail Construction
This may have already been noted, & I hate to publicly correct JC, but - The construction JC refers to below is in fact an office bldg, housing units & parking being built by CSM on the block across from the Hyatt Whitney, which itself will soon be converted to condos. MacPhail is currently in fund-raising mode, & will build on the corner of 2d St. & 5th Ave. when funding is complete. Bill Tetzlaff MCDA/Kingfield -Original Message- From: j c harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] question about MacPhail The new MacPhail Center is under construction at Portland and 2nd Avenue South, across the street from the Hyatt Whitney Hotel. Jill Harmon Cleveland _ TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Theater Sign & Seats
The MCDA has stored at Grain Belt in one of its buildings that is soon to be demolished the following items: 1. Franklin Theater sign. Two or three years ago during renovation of the former Franklin Theater the sign was removed & was to be hauled away. The redeveloper contacted us to ask if we wanted it. We contacted Seward Redesign to inquire as to whether it might be able to be used on the Franklin LRT station. This sounded like a good idea, so we hauled the sign to Grain Belt for storage. Unfortunately, it was ultimately determined that the cost of renovating the sign, installing it on the station and maintaining it far exceeded the available budget. We made some efforts to find other uses for the sign, but to no avail. So, we now have a huge sign - approximately 8' wide, 22' long & 6' deep - sitting in a building that is scheduled to be demolished sometime this Fall. Historic Preservation Commission staff is aware of its existence, & it has not been designated as historically significant. Problematic conditions of the sign include the following: -structural integrity is questionable -some corrosion of the structure & the metal skin -incandescent fixtures - literally hundreds line both vertical sides - need to be replaced & rewired -neon ballasts & tubing need to be redone And of course there's the challenge of moving it - a truck with a crane is required (so forget about folding your back seat down & sliding it into the trunk). 2. Pantages(Mann) Theater seats. When renovation began, approximately 200 seats were removed & stored at Grain Belt, the thought being that they might be able to be reused. It was ultimately determined that they could not be, & the general consensus is that they are in horrible (or more technically speaking, crappy) condition. We're looking for someone - frankly, a benefactor - who is interested in restoring and/or reusing the Franklin Theater sign. The challenges & costs as noted above are considerable. We also want to note the availability of the theater seats, if anyone is interested in taking all of them. We don't have the staff resources to schedule individual appointments to view these items, or to to have an open house. If there are parties seriously interested in these items, we will schedule a one-time viewing, say in the 1st week of September. So if you are seriously (really - seriously) interested in these items, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the phone number below by the end of next week, Friday, Aug. 22. I've pretty much spilled my guts about this stuff herein, so there's not much more info I can provide. Bill Tetzlaff MCDA 612-673-5168 TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Real $$$ vs. Funny $$$ DT Target
OK then - yes, the Timberwolves & Arena Club pay real money totalling approximately $5 million in personal property taxes. At least that's what the Assessor's Office indicates. Please let us know of your success in getting copies of those cancelled checks. The MCDA does not receive these payments from the taxpayer. Regarding CSM's office building, we sold them the land & have a redevelopment contract that calls for a sign being posted. Other parts of this project include housing, 20% of which will be affordable, structured & below-grade parking &, in the future, a new home for McPhail Center for the Arts. Yes, the MCDA has been involved in financing for these other components of the project, in the areas of pollution clean-up (funded mostly by grants from the State & Met Council), affordable housing, & parking (developer-paid tax increment financing, not MCDA money, funny or otherwise). This is already public information - all MCDA land sales are subject to neighborhood review, advertised public hearings, & along with financing is subject to review & approval by the MCDA Board/City Council; this project was approved in Dec. of '01. I assume your ongoing investigation will yield the additional details & conclusions you desire. I'm not directly involved in housing, so I won't attempt to address the Fannie Mae question. Bill Tetzlaff MCDA/Kingfield -Original Message- From: Victoria Heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:54 AM To: Mpls Forum Subject: [Mpls] Real $$$ vs. Funny $$$ DT Target Brauer: "But Keith and Vickie aren't satisfied" Heller: Don't speak for me David - I'm still sleuthing. Brauer: ".wishful thinking after the original accusation that Target Center delivers no taxes to the city proved to be baseless." Heller: What proof? I haven't seen any cancelled checks yet. MCDA/Tetzlaff: "Regarding the office building being constructed next to the Depot skating rink..the MCDA has no involvement in its financing." Heller: Why then, is there a large MCDA sign on the side of the building under construction? I'll report to the Mpls Forum when my investigation of these matters is complete, or when I encounter a stonewall. I have limited time available for this project - I'm busy watching Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae melt down on the stock market. Would someone from the MCDA explain what "credit enhanced by Fannie Mae" means - as it relates to the sale of municipal bonds. I noticed this phrase on Steve Minn's Stone Arch Apartment summary posted on the MCDA website, and of course Fannie Mae is one of two limited partners in the Riverside Plaza deal. Friday's StribNational Business Briefs "Treasury chief urges closer Freddie Mac regulation: Treasury Secretary John Snow on Thursday urged tighter regulation of Freddie Mac, the home mortgage company under criminal investigation by federal prosecutors, and its larger sister in the mortgage market, Fannie Mae. Snow was the first member of the Bush administration to comment on Freddie Mac since the government-sponsored company shook up its top leadership Monday because of accounting problems. " Friday's Strib.. Critics have said for years that the two used their status to build financial houses of cards and to avoid full public disclosure about what they were up to. The critics, as diverse as Ralph Nader on the left and Republican Rep. Richard Baker of Louisiana on the right, had an "I-told-you-so" moment Monday when Freddie Mac announced the firing of its president over an accounting review and the abrupt resignations of its chairman-CEO and chief financial officer. A criminal investigation by federal prosecutors and a formal inquiry by the Securities and Exchange Commission were disclosed two days later. http://www.startribune.com/stories/671/3934909.html Vicky Heller, North Oaks TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] RE: Target: Property Values and Property Taxes
Ms Heller & Forum Members - In answer to your questions posted below: The Target HQ block PINs are 27-029-24-12-0137, -0142, & -0143. Target Center Personal Property Account Numbers are 25003 & 25004. Tax info, as you have amply demonstrated in previous posts, is easily available on the Hennepin County Property Tax web site by PIN or address. Once a parcel is pulled up, you can click on "view map," then navigate the map and click on any other parcel or block to pull up that data. Personal Property Accounts are not on the site; you have to call the Hennepin County Assessors office(612-348-3046) to get that info. Regarding the office building being constructed next to the Depot skating rink (the rink is not being removed permanently, but is planned to re-open in the fall), the MCDA has no involvement in its financing. CSM is financing this building privately. I'm sure CSM expects this building to increase in value over time. I'm unable to address any disparities in the direction of Target's assessed value versus that of your property in Cedar-Riverside. I would suggest contacting the Assessor's Office to discuss this. I'd also suggest the Assessor's Office as the best source of the Target Center tax info, & of a list(if one is available) of properties that pay no tax. I don't know for certain the specific dates on which the Timberwolves' & Arena Club's 2003 personal property taxes of approximately $5 million are due, but I believe they're due on the same dates as real estate taxes. Bill Tetzlaff MCDA/Kingfield -Original Message- From: Victoria Heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:48 PM To: Mpls Forum Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Target: Property Values and Property Taxes MCDA/Tetzlaff: "Any decrease in EMV from 2001 was due to over-all reductions in CBD office values by the City Assessor." Heller: Does this mean that only one section of the block lost value? Where would we find the information on the other two parcels? Please provide the PINs (property identification numbers) so that we can look them up. Also, if office buildings are losing value, why is the MCDA financing a new one next to the former ice skating rink? Also, the assessor increased my property values (Cedar-Riverside) by 30% this year. Where would I find the facts supporting Target's reduction and my increase? MCDA/Tetzlaff: "The real estate taxes are paid by the Timberwolves and the Northwest Health Club based on Personal Property Tax Account valuations as leasehold interests. These are assessed just like the regular tax parcels and taxes are paid at the regular C/I rate. The total 2002 EMV for Target Center is $53,960,000 and the total 2003 real estate taxes paid will be $4,999,254." Heller: Where is this data published? How much have the Timberwolves paid over the past few years? WHEN will they pay the $4,999,254? Will they pay real cash, or will there simply be a bookkeeping entry crediting this amount against improvements promised by the City? Several other properties show no property taxes due (Northern Cap for example.) Where can people go to find a list of all Minneapolis property that pays no tax? Thank you for the added information; awaiting your reply. Vicky Heller, North Oaks TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Target: Property Values and Property Taxes
Regarding the market value & property tax numbers cited below, Phil Handy of this office has provided the following: 1000 Nicollet Mall (Target Headquarters Block, not the Target Store Block): The valuation that Ms. Heller cites, $54,500,000, is only one of three tax parcels that comprise the Target HQ Block. The total 2002 EMV for the block is $167,000,000 and the total real estate taxes paid in 2003 will be $7,062,713. Any decrease in EMV from 2001 was due to over-all reductions in CBD office values by the City Assessor. Target did not file any petitions to reduce valuation, unlike many office tower owners. This project received no public financial assistance. Target Center The valuation that Ms. Heller cites is only the exempt fee interest parcel owned by MCDA. The real estate taxes are paid by the Timberwolves and the Northwest Health Club based on Personal Property Tax Account valuations as leasehold interests. These are assessed just like the regular tax parcels and taxes are paid at the regular C/I rate. The total 2002 EMV for Target Center is $53,960,000 and the total 2003 real estate taxes paid will be $4,999,254. Bill Tetzlaff MCDA/Kingfield -Original Message- From: Victoria Heller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:19 AM To: Mpls Forum Subject: [Mpls] Target: Property Values and Property Taxes 701 West Broadway Market Value: $3,638,000 (up from $3,025,000) Property Tax: $148,408 (4.1%) 313,487 square feet of land 1000 Nicollet Mall Market Value: $54,500,000 (down from $62 million) Property Tax: $2,244,464 (4.1%) 71,508 square feet of land 600 1st Avenue North (Target Center) Market Value: $43,960,000 Property Tax: $0.00 127,999 square feet of land Vicky Heller, North Oaks TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] What's missing?
Other missing food co-ops: Powderhorn (now coffee shop at 35th & Bloomington) one at NW corner of 26th & Bloomington another at SW corner of 27th St. & 1st Ave. Downtown hardware store where Multifood/33 S. 6th St. bldg is now Mama Rosa's (across from Triangle Bar) South of the Border (Lake & Hennepin) Silver Dollar Saloon (where McD's now is at 35W & Lake) Redeye Saloon (11th Ave S & Washington area) Home Bar (now Rudolph's BBQ) Venice Cafe next to Asuka Joe Houle's Duffy's & Mr Nibs (probably not missed by Seward folks) Duff's Crystal Mist (a downtown bar, not a drug) Late night taconite industry ads on TV (oops, never mind, I watched those from St. Paul) Whole Coffeehouse in sub-basement of Coffman (maybe still exists?) Being able to find free on-street parking near the U The time, freedom & energy to frequent the type of places listed above Bill Tetzlaff Kingfield/MCDA ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
