Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread ABerget
I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out 
that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. The arbitrary salary 
cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes it difficult for Minnesota to 
attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. 
While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure 
that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be 
otherwise. This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful 
incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the 
non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as 
more noxious than a higher salary might be.

This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a 
long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search.

Ann Berget
Kingfield
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RE: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread Bower, Matthew A
I believe that the cap involved affects all public officials in the state. All 
salaries must be a certain percentage of the Governor's salary. Local fiscal policies 
are not the constraint in this instance. 

Matt Bower
Nokomis

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 From: Pamela Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:53 AM
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 If Minneapolis had not done so much subsidizing of big businesses, and then
 leaving the taxpayers to pick up the eventual tabs, they might have had more
 money in their pockets to go shopping with.
 
 They may just have to set their sights a little lower, and get some
 up-and-coming individual who is not as well known, to put our library on the
 map.  They don't need to be changing any laws because the previous
 administration screwed up royally.  Now is the time to be fiscally prudent
 and act responsibly.
 
 Pamela Taylor
 (Tampa)
 
 I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to
 point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well.
 The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes
 it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the
 country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does
 not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified
 candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not
 necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for
 jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive
 salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more
 noxious than a higher salary might be.
 
 This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents
 for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library
 search.
 
 Ann Berget
 Kingfield
 
 
 
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RE: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread Pamela Taylor
If Minneapolis had not done so much subsidizing of big businesses, and then
leaving the taxpayers to pick up the eventual tabs, they might have had more
money in their pockets to go shopping with.

They may just have to set their sights a little lower, and get some
up-and-coming individual who is not as well known, to put our library on the
map.  They don't need to be changing any laws because the previous
administration screwed up royally.  Now is the time to be fiscally prudent
and act responsibly.

Pamela Taylor
(Tampa)

I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to
point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well.
The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes
it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the
country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does
not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified
candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not
necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for
jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive
salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more
noxious than a higher salary might be.

This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents
for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library
search.

Ann Berget
Kingfield



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Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread Alan Hooker
Ann Berget writes:

The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states makes 
it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the 
country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does 
not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified 
candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise.

My response:

As an Employment Administrator for a national non-profit organization, and 
someone who has been in the exempt and non-exempt recruitment field since 
the early '90's, I can tell you from first hand experience that the only 
part of Ms. Berget's statement that rings true is that salary does not 
insure top performance.  Often I have found that those individuals truly 
passionate and committed to their careers rank money lower on the ol' job 
happiness scale.  Money is fleeting, and study after study shows that 
throwing money at salaries just to pacify someone unhappy in their 
profession only means that you are only prolonging the inevitable.  
Eventually they will attempt to hold you financially hostage by threatening 
to walk.

I for one am tired of school superintendants and others crying how hard it 
is to live on six figure salaries, or how other cities offer much more 
financially.  To that mentality, I offer the following:

1.  Look around.  This is Minneapolis.  This isn't New York, Chicago, LA, or 
even Raleigh/Durham.  Granted, our cost of living is higher than many other 
mid-size cities, but we still are more affordable than Seattle, Detroit, 
Boston, D.C. and Atlanta.  We have no sales tax on clothing and most food, 
an average sales tax on other goods, and we have some of the top wages in 
the nation.

2.  The economy has changed.  Thousands of highly qualified people are 
looking for work.  One ad produces more responses than I can handle.  You 
mean that in such an atmosphere taxpayers should be digging into their 
pockets and offering up more money as a begging bribe?  Maybe as a signing 
bonus if they agree to a multi-year, ironclad contract that forgoes salary 
increases for first couple of years.

Bottom line -- if such job seekers, or current job holders, don't like what 
the public can afford at this time (or what the public is willing to provide 
until tangible positive results are produced), then I have a message for 
them:

Don't let the door bang you on your rear on your way out.

Alan Hooker
Victory Neighborhood




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Subject: Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 
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I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to 
point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. 
, This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful 
incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the 
non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the 
citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be.

This has been a significant issue in the selection of school 
superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up 
in the Library search.

Ann Berget
Kingfield
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Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread Annie Young
And it did when we looked for a Park Supt. a couple of years back and it 
certainly would if we look for another Supt. any time soon. You should see 
what Park systems are offering around the country for the head honch(a) - 
it is embarrassing for the #1 Park system in America to be held back by 
this salary cap situation we are in.
Annie Young
citywide Park Commissioner


At 10:34 AM 10/17/02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to 
point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as 
well. The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, 
makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of 
the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary 
alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool 
of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. 
This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful 
incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the 
non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the 
citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be.

This has been a significant issue in the selection of school 
superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up 
in the Library search.

Ann Berget
Kingfield
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Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool

2002-10-17 Thread K. Cooper
At 12:43 PM -0500 10/17/02, Annie Young wrote:

And it did when we looked for a Park Supt. a couple of years back 
and it certainly would if we look for another Supt. any time soon. 
You should see what Park systems are offering around the country for 
the head honch(a) - it is embarrassing for the #1 Park system in 
America to be held back by this salary cap situation we are in.
Annie Young
citywide Park Commissioner

At least you've got quite a nice house you could give them.

Karen Cooper, in Tangletown, and wondering what's happened with that 
Parks Legacy group who wants to turn it into a public building.  Does 
anyone here know?
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