Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be. This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
I believe that the cap involved affects all public officials in the state. All salaries must be a certain percentage of the Governor's salary. Local fiscal policies are not the constraint in this instance. Matt Bower Nokomis -Original Message- From: Pamela Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool If Minneapolis had not done so much subsidizing of big businesses, and then leaving the taxpayers to pick up the eventual tabs, they might have had more money in their pockets to go shopping with. They may just have to set their sights a little lower, and get some up-and-coming individual who is not as well known, to put our library on the map. They don't need to be changing any laws because the previous administration screwed up royally. Now is the time to be fiscally prudent and act responsibly. Pamela Taylor (Tampa) I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be. This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
If Minneapolis had not done so much subsidizing of big businesses, and then leaving the taxpayers to pick up the eventual tabs, they might have had more money in their pockets to go shopping with. They may just have to set their sights a little lower, and get some up-and-coming individual who is not as well known, to put our library on the map. They don't need to be changing any laws because the previous administration screwed up royally. Now is the time to be fiscally prudent and act responsibly. Pamela Taylor (Tampa) I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be. This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
Ann Berget writes: The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. My response: As an Employment Administrator for a national non-profit organization, and someone who has been in the exempt and non-exempt recruitment field since the early '90's, I can tell you from first hand experience that the only part of Ms. Berget's statement that rings true is that salary does not insure top performance. Often I have found that those individuals truly passionate and committed to their careers rank money lower on the ol' job happiness scale. Money is fleeting, and study after study shows that throwing money at salaries just to pacify someone unhappy in their profession only means that you are only prolonging the inevitable. Eventually they will attempt to hold you financially hostage by threatening to walk. I for one am tired of school superintendants and others crying how hard it is to live on six figure salaries, or how other cities offer much more financially. To that mentality, I offer the following: 1. Look around. This is Minneapolis. This isn't New York, Chicago, LA, or even Raleigh/Durham. Granted, our cost of living is higher than many other mid-size cities, but we still are more affordable than Seattle, Detroit, Boston, D.C. and Atlanta. We have no sales tax on clothing and most food, an average sales tax on other goods, and we have some of the top wages in the nation. 2. The economy has changed. Thousands of highly qualified people are looking for work. One ad produces more responses than I can handle. You mean that in such an atmosphere taxpayers should be digging into their pockets and offering up more money as a begging bribe? Maybe as a signing bonus if they agree to a multi-year, ironclad contract that forgoes salary increases for first couple of years. Bottom line -- if such job seekers, or current job holders, don't like what the public can afford at this time (or what the public is willing to provide until tangible positive results are produced), then I have a message for them: Don't let the door bang you on your rear on your way out. Alan Hooker Victory Neighborhood From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:34:07 -0400 I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. , This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be. This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
And it did when we looked for a Park Supt. a couple of years back and it certainly would if we look for another Supt. any time soon. You should see what Park systems are offering around the country for the head honch(a) - it is embarrassing for the #1 Park system in America to be held back by this salary cap situation we are in. Annie Young citywide Park Commissioner At 10:34 AM 10/17/02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't defend or criticize the Library Board's situation, but I want to point out that this is a significant issue for other jurisdictions as well. The arbitrary salary cap, which does not exist in most other states, makes it difficult for Minnesota to attract candidates from other areas of the country where salaries are MUCH higher. While I agree that salary alone does not insure top performance, the cap does endure that the pool of qualified candidates we attract is smaller than it would be otherwise. This is not necessarily a good thing. The cap also provides a powerful incentive for jurisdictions to seek devious but legal ways to enhance the non-competitive salaries they offer through perks that can strike the citizenry as more noxious than a higher salary might be. This has been a significant issue in the selection of school superintendents for a long time. It doesn't surprise me that it's come up in the Library search. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Pay cap affects candidate pool
At 12:43 PM -0500 10/17/02, Annie Young wrote: And it did when we looked for a Park Supt. a couple of years back and it certainly would if we look for another Supt. any time soon. You should see what Park systems are offering around the country for the head honch(a) - it is embarrassing for the #1 Park system in America to be held back by this salary cap situation we are in. Annie Young citywide Park Commissioner At least you've got quite a nice house you could give them. Karen Cooper, in Tangletown, and wondering what's happened with that Parks Legacy group who wants to turn it into a public building. Does anyone here know? ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls;mnforum.org Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls