RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Niehaus
Personally, I think this is the best Microsoft event that we’ve had in a long 
time.  If you judge a conference by its food rather than what you learn, then I 
think your priorities are messed up.  As was discussed in various places, 
feeding 23,000 people is rather challenging.  I did have the lunch today, it 
was OK – not great, but it also was “grab and go” so I could eat while sitting 
in front of the biggest, longest screen I’ve ever seen, which was live 
streaming 8 sessions at once.

Two keynotes on the first day got all the “marketing” out of the way (and the 
keynotes themselves got good reviews with very high attendance), there was a 
completely overwhelming amount of technical information shared, and there was a 
significant presence with external (and uncensored) speakers, MVPs and 
otherwise, with nearly all 300- and 400-level content.  (We really don’t like 
doing 200-level content for IT pros, we consider that “prerequisite knowledge.”)

We still have some work to do on the social aspects of this, figuring out 
effective ways to get people of common interests together.  We had a lot of fun 
with the “ask us (almost) anything” sessions, there was a lot of great 
conversations with the product group members manning the booths, and a dizzying 
number of 1:1 customer meetings with everyone from me all the way up to our 
CEO.  And I answered questions in pretty much every place imaginable – in the 
airport, in my hotel, in restaurants, on the MARTA trains, even in the 
restroom.  (C’mon guys, respect some boundaries ☺)

If you don’t hear much from us next week, it’s because we’re still recovering.

-MTN

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Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


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Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Niehaus
We’ll all sit in the front row to heckle ☺

-MTN

p.s. Eek, I’ve got IT/Dev Connection sessions coming up way too quickly, and 
they are different than what I presented at Ignite (by design/by contract).  
You can guess what I’ll be doing next week…

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Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:25 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Ready as ever! ☺

Will call you out.

//A

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Sent: den 29 september 2016 18:24
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Andreas,

I’m going to attend your session, ready to hand out the branchcache tool? ☺



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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:33
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. ☺ There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

//A

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


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Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

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To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Phil Wilcock
Isn’t it ‘Buy One Get One Free’ day tomorrow? ;-)

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Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 29 September 2016 23:24
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Andreas,

I’m going to attend your session, ready to hand out the branchcache tool? ☺



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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:33
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. ☺ There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Roland Janus
Andreas,

 

I’m going to attend your session, ready to hand out the branchcache tool? :)

 

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:33
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. :) There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

 

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

 

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

 

//A

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus  > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

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] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 



 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Roland Janus
Partially, or actually mostly I agree with, like the keynote: ‘We’re good, 
cloud, we’re great, cloud”…

 

Some speakers make fun of it and just say “cloud” so it’s said.

 

BTW: I was at two sessions of Paula  (that is real geek content, amazing and 
she’s just charming and had the audience for sure), she asked “how was lunch?” 
….

 

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Auftrag von Todd Hemsell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:00
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus  > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 



 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 

 

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

 

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused. 

 

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday 

Re: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2007 Deny permissions on 1 report.

2016-09-29 Thread stefanieburton
Hi Garth,Can you provide a little more detail on this response?Thanks   On 09/27/16, Garth Jones wrote: If I remember right in CM07 ONLY, you can do this within SSRS itself. BUT keep in mind that the permission might get reset if the RP point is ever re-installed. In CM12 and later, there is no easy way to do this.    Garth JonesChief Architect www.Enhansoft.comEnhancing Your Business Subscribe to Enhansoft’s Newsletter! From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]On Behalf Of Stefanie BurtonSent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:09 PMTo: mssms@lists.myitforum.comSubject: [mssms] SCCM 2007 Deny permissions on 1 report. Does anyone still work with 2007? I need to deny permissions on 1 report to a group who has read rights on the reports class.   If I take away class rights then the users cannot see all the reports they need to be able to view.     Is the only way to do this is to give them read instance rights to all reports except the one I don’t want to give them access too? Any help is appreciated. Thanks 





[mssms] RE: AD Sites and Services for Boundaries..

2016-09-29 Thread Jimmy Martin
In most cases I was able to use ad site.  Had one site that was problematic and 
that made it a bit more of a touchy thing.  It would be nice to have ad sites 
be the default across the board *EXCEPT* for when another more specific 
boundary definition/assignment existed within sccm…


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To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] AD Sites and Services for Boundaries..

Hi Folks,

Back when this became a feature I thought it ws the best thing since sliced 
bread because of the dumbed down way you can add networks to sites and services 
VS proper network id’s…

During our planning session, Microsoft told us they recommend not using a mix 
of sites and services, and ip.   I know we use IP Ranges for vpn and so on.

Are you folks finding Sites and services is not working well because of how 
consolidated DC’s are now a days, and everyone uses ip ranges for the added 
control?






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[mssms] RE: AD Sites and Services for Boundaries..

2016-09-29 Thread Marcum, John
When it was added? It’s been there as long as I can remember.

They are saying that because there’s a good chance you could end up with 
overlapping boundaries if an IP is in an AD site and specified elsewhere as a 
boundary too. Personally I love ad sites for boundaries but I never use them 
because I don’t trust the AD guys to keep them up to date.



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Back when this became a feature I thought it ws the best thing since sliced 
bread because of the dumbed down way you can add networks to sites and services 
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During our planning session, Microsoft told us they recommend not using a mix 
of sites and services, and ip.   I know we use IP Ranges for vpn and so on.

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RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Andreas Hammarskjöld
Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. ☺ There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread rodtrent
*ahem* hot meals included…

http://itdevconnections.com 



Rod Trent


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Well said Todd.
Wouldn’t it be a good idea if Susan and other folks on this list put together 
an event that invited sponsors, that the majority of us support,
that could allow us to evaluate and drive what’s coming next.
For instance, patch management solutions in the brave new world after October, 
leveraging the abilities of sccm and orchestrator from expert users such as 
Sherry Kissinger, 
perhaps a cynical and comedic intro from Julian and yourself ☺  etc.. etc… 

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.
So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus  wrote:
To sum that up:
 
MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.
 
And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?
 
So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.
 
Cheers, roland
 
 
Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
 
All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit
 

 
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)
 
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
 
I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.
 
This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 
 
Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 
 
Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 
 
Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Well said Todd.
Wouldn’t it be a good idea if Susan and other folks on this list put together 
an event that invited sponsors, that the majority of us support,
that could allow us to evaluate and drive what’s coming next.
For instance, patch management solutions in the brave new world after October, 
leveraging the abilities of sccm and orchestrator from expert users such as 
Sherry Kissinger,
perhaps a cynical and comedic intro from Julian and yourself ☺  etc.. etc…

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.
MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will.
Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
To sum that up:

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.
It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys ☺, may take even longer?

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
That’s just sad.

Cheers, roland


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told 

Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

2016-09-29 Thread Brian McDonald
Easy enough. Thanks John!


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  on behalf 
of Marcum, John 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:34:42 AM
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: RE: [mssms] SSRS Instances

>From within the client agent settings, hardware inventory tab you should be 
>able to browse to the namespace on a client that has run the script and add it.
[cid:image001.png@01D21A34.B008BD30]


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian McDonald
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:16 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

[External Email]

Sherry,



This script looks great. I do not understand this though:  "add the class to 
your hardware inventory in the appropriate client settings package" I know how 
to modify the HW inventory in the client settings, but what exactly am I 
modifying?



Any guidance on how I might set this up or links you can reference?



Thank you,



Brian


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> on 
behalf of Sherry Kissinger 
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:06:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

Use Jason's script:  
http://blog.configmgrftw.com/sql-server-inventory-using-configmgr/
As a ConfigItem (a vbscript) targeted to your population you care about, and 
extend hardware inventory.

for me with the view I ended up with, something like this:
select s1.netbios_name0, si.*
from v_gs_sqlinstance si
join v_r_system s1 on s1.resourceid=si.resourceid
where si.InstanceType0 = 'RS'

(Because RS means "reporting services", at least I assume so.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Brian McDonald 
> wrote:

Hey all,



I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can get an inventory of all SSRS 
instances for all SQL Servers? Specifically, I need to know where the SSRS 
service is running.



Has anyone have any samples they can share?



Thanks,

Brian




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RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
:)
At least tell us that they provided good coffee.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:08 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Lol I was 5am when I posted that, with no coffee...

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Erno, Cynthia M (ITS) 
> wrote:
If you can "sever" it out of his hands :) :) :)
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Todd Hemsell
Probably :)

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Adam Juelich  wrote:

> You're just not yourself when you're hungry
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Todd Hemsell  wrote:
>
>> "So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
>>
>> No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the
>> content. The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and
>> Microsoft.
>>
>> MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
>> Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide
>> decks in advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing
>> content and you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
>>
>> This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They
>> stopped caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about
>> recurring payments and their bottom line.
>> You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events,
>> missing kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments.
>> Even the way they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is
>> best for them (monolithic updates)
>> They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care
>> about adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom
>> line and trying to be apple.
>> Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against
>> your will.
>>
>> Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that
>> marketing speak.
>> Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To sum that up:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing
>>> the same as “real” food.
>>>
>>> It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just
>>> horrible IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never
>>> had to wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
>>>
>>> While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys J, may take even
>>> longer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
>>>
>>> That’s just sad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, roland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>>> orum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Adam Juelich
>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
>>> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
>>> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth,
>>> since you’re watching your weight. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>>> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Garth Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
>>> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch
>>> boxes vs hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you
>>> have to wait in line to be severed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it
>>> took to be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always
>>> seen to take 5 minutes before you could make it to the food table before
>>> getting severed. Then it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to
>>> the other end. If anything ran out you would wait until they replaced it.
>>> This year there has been no waiting to grab a lunch box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for
>>> the lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch
>>> boxed. I would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than
>>> normal lunch boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a
>>> peach cobbler?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another
>>> prospective on things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree
>>> that it will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to
>>> watch my weight, so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they
>>> are a hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the
>>> only reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch
>>> him or Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Adam Juelich
You're just not yourself when you're hungry

[image: Inline image 1]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Todd Hemsell  wrote:

> "So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"
>
> No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the
> content. The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and
> Microsoft.
>
> MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
> Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide
> decks in advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing
> content and you are basically a fool if you paid for it.
>
> This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped
> caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring
> payments and their bottom line.
> You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events,
> missing kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments.
> Even the way they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is
> best for them (monolithic updates)
> They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care
> about adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom
> line and trying to be apple.
> Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against
> your will.
>
> Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that
> marketing speak.
> Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
> wrote:
>
>> To sum that up:
>>
>>
>>
>> MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the
>> same as “real” food.
>>
>> It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just
>> horrible IMO.
>>
>>
>>
>> And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never
>> had to wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
>>
>> While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys J, may take even longer?
>>
>>
>>
>> So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
>>
>> That’s just sad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, roland
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>> orum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Adam Juelich
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
>> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>>
>>
>>
>> All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
>> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth,
>> since you’re watching your weight. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Garth Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
>> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch
>> boxes vs hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you
>> have to wait in line to be severed.
>>
>>
>>
>> This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it
>> took to be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always
>> seen to take 5 minutes before you could make it to the food table before
>> getting severed. Then it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to
>> the other end. If anything ran out you would wait until they replaced it.
>> This year there has been no waiting to grab a lunch box.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for
>> the lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch
>> boxed. I would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than
>> normal lunch boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a
>> peach cobbler?
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another
>> prospective on things.
>>
>>
>>
>> Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree
>> that it will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to
>> watch my weight, so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. J
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are
>> a hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.
>>
>>
>>
>> BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the
>> only reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch
>> him or Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>> orum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Roland Janus
>> *Sent:* September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
>> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>>
>>
>>
>> How 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Todd Hemsell
"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the
content. The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and
Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event.
Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks
in advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content
and you are basically a fool if you paid for it.

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring
payments and their bottom line.
You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events,
missing kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments.
Even the way they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is
best for them (monolithic updates)
They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care
about adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom
line and trying to be apple.
Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your
will.

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing
speak.
Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus 
wrote:

> To sum that up:
>
>
>
> MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the
> same as “real” food.
>
> It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just
> horrible IMO.
>
>
>
> And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had
> to wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.
>
> While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys J, may take even longer?
>
>
>
> So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?
>
> That’s just sad.
>
>
>
> Cheers, roland
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Adam Juelich
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth,
> since you’re watching your weight. ;)
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Garth Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch
> boxes vs hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you
> have to wait in line to be severed.
>
>
>
> This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it
> took to be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always
> seen to take 5 minutes before you could make it to the food table before
> getting severed. Then it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to
> the other end. If anything ran out you would wait until they replaced it.
> This year there has been no waiting to grab a lunch box.
>
>
>
> Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the
> lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I
> would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch
> boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?
>
>
>
> Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another
> prospective on things.
>
>
>
> Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree
> that it will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to
> watch my weight, so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. J
>
>
>
> BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are
> a hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.
>
>
>
> BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the
> only reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch
> him or Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Janus
> *Sent:* September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper
> cooked food?
>
> The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
>
> I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
>
> But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get
> something better regardless
>
> Maybe I’m just 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Garth Jones
Lol I was 5am when I posted that, with no coffee...

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Erno, Cynthia M (ITS) 
> wrote:

If you can “sever” it out of his hands :) :) :)
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long…


Right, wrong… I’m just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

That is just not 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Garth Jones
Lol... I will keep it for you. ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

That is just not acceptable.

-R











AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Roland Janus
To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 



 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 

 

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

 

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused. 

 

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this. 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?

The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?

I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.

But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless

Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.

And then that dry chicken. B.

 

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks. 

 

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long…

 

 

Right, wrong… I’m just says that is why we have lunch boxes.. 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Kent, Mark
Someone has a case of the Thursday’s.

Mark Kent
Manager, Client Systems Engineering
Technology Support Services
Resources for Information, Technology and Education (RITE)
http://rite.buffalostate.edu

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:58 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Anyone foolish enough to pay to go to a marketing event deserves the crappy 
lunch they get fed.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Marable, Mike 
> wrote:
Jumping on the bandwagon…

There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The anxiety 
of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be severed.  
Must be dull blades or something.

Sorry.  ☺

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

If you can “sever” it out of his hands ☺ ☺ ☺
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Marcum, John
+1

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:58 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[External Email]
Anyone foolish enough to pay to go to a marketing event deserves the crappy 
lunch they get fed.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Marable, Mike 
> wrote:
Jumping on the bandwagon…

There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The anxiety 
of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be severed.  
Must be dull blades or something.

Sorry.  ☺

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

If you can “sever” it out of his hands ☺ ☺ ☺
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Daniel Ratliff
At MMS the food comes pre-severed! If you order from Firelake anyway. :P

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

Jumping on the bandwagon...

There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The anxiety 
of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be severed.  
Must be dull blades or something.

Sorry.  :)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

If you can "sever" it out of his hands :) :) :)
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. 

Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Todd Hemsell
Anyone foolish enough to pay to go to a marketing event deserves the crappy
lunch they get fed.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Marable, Mike 
wrote:

> Jumping on the bandwagon…
>
>
>
> There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The
> anxiety of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be
> severed.  Must be dull blades or something.
>
>
>
> Sorry.  J
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> If you can “sever” it out of his hands J J J
>
> Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.
>
>
>
> *Cynthia Erno*
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Heaton,
> Joseph@Wildlife
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> *ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open
> attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.*
>
> Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth,
> since you’re watching your weight. ;)
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Garth Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch
> boxes vs hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you
> have to wait in line to be severed.
>
>
>
> This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it
> took to be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always
> seen to take 5 minutes before you could make it to the food table before
> getting severed. Then it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to
> the other end. If anything ran out you would wait until they replaced it.
> This year there has been no waiting to grab a lunch box.
>
>
>
> Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the
> lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I
> would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch
> boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?
>
>
>
> Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another
> prospective on things.
>
>
>
> Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree
> that it will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to
> watch my weight, so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. J
>
>
>
> BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are
> a hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.
>
>
>
> BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the
> only reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch
> him or Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Janus
> *Sent:* September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper
> cooked food?
>
> The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
>
> I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
>
> But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get
> something better regardless
>
> Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that
> piece of tasteless foam used.
>
> And then that dry chicken. B.
>
>
>
> Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *Im Auftrag von *Garth
> Jones
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back
> that they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30
> minutes to get food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that
> they can talk to friends, office, family during the breaks.
>
>
>
> So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned
> around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and
> can get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait
> in line for you food nearly as 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Marcum, John
Try not to flinch…. (For all of you fellow criminal minds fans)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[External Email]
Jumping on the bandwagon…

There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The anxiety 
of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be severed.  
Must be dull blades or something.

Sorry.  ☺

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

If you can “sever” it out of his hands ☺ ☺ ☺
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. ☺

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you 

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Marable, Mike
Jumping on the bandwagon...

There is nothing worse than having to wait in line to be severed.  The anxiety 
of waiting for it to happen.  And then for it to take so long to be severed.  
Must be dull blades or something.

Sorry.  :)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

If you can "sever" it out of his hands :) :) :)
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com

RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
If you can "sever" it out of his hands :) :) :)
Sorry Garth, but you did you use the word severed instead of served.. 3x.

Cynthia Erno

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

That is just not acceptable.

-R











Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Adam Juelich
All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit



On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

> Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth,
> since you’re watching your weight. ;)
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Garth Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch
> boxes vs hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you
> have to wait in line to be severed.
>
>
>
> This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it
> took to be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always
> seen to take 5 minutes before you could make it to the food table before
> getting severed. Then it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to
> the other end. If anything ran out you would wait until they replaced it.
> This year there has been no waiting to grab a lunch box.
>
>
>
> Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the
> lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I
> would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch
> boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?
>
>
>
> Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another
> prospective on things.
>
>
>
> Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree
> that it will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to
> watch my weight, so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. J
>
>
>
> BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are
> a hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused.
>
>
>
> BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the
> only reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch
> him or Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Janus
> *Sent:* September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper
> cooked food?
>
> The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
>
> I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
>
> But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get
> something better regardless
>
> Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that
> piece of tasteless foam used.
>
> And then that dry chicken. B.
>
>
>
> Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *Im Auftrag von *Garth
> Jones
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back
> that they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30
> minutes to get food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that
> they can talk to friends, office, family during the breaks.
>
>
>
> So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned
> around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and
> can get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait
> in line for you food nearly as long…
>
>
>
>
>
> Right, wrong… I’m just says that is why we have lunch boxes..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Janus
> *Sent:* September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite
>
>
>
> I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the
> horrible food we get at Ignite.
>
>
>
> Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
>
> I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.
>
>
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
>
> -R
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Mmm, peach cobbler.  I'd be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you're watching your weight. ;)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

That is just not acceptable.

-R










RE: [mssms] SSRS Instances

2016-09-29 Thread Marcum, John
From within the client agent settings, hardware inventory tab you should be 
able to browse to the namespace on a client that has run the script and add it.
[cid:image001.png@01D21A34.B008BD30]


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian McDonald
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:16 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

[External Email]

Sherry,



This script looks great. I do not understand this though:  "add the class to 
your hardware inventory in the appropriate client settings package" I know how 
to modify the HW inventory in the client settings, but what exactly am I 
modifying?



Any guidance on how I might set this up or links you can reference?



Thank you,



Brian


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> on 
behalf of Sherry Kissinger 
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:06:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

Use Jason's script:  
http://blog.configmgrftw.com/sql-server-inventory-using-configmgr/
As a ConfigItem (a vbscript) targeted to your population you care about, and 
extend hardware inventory.

for me with the view I ended up with, something like this:
select s1.netbios_name0, si.*
from v_gs_sqlinstance si
join v_r_system s1 on s1.resourceid=si.resourceid
where si.InstanceType0 = 'RS'

(Because RS means "reporting services", at least I assume so.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Brian McDonald 
> wrote:

Hey all,



I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can get an inventory of all SSRS 
instances for all SQL Servers? Specifically, I need to know where the SSRS 
service is running.



Has anyone have any samples they can share?



Thanks,

Brian




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Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

2016-09-29 Thread Brian McDonald
Sherry,


This script looks great. I do not understand this though:  "add the class to 
your hardware inventory in the appropriate client settings package" I know how 
to modify the HW inventory in the client settings, but what exactly am I 
modifying?


Any guidance on how I might set this up or links you can reference?


Thank you,


Brian


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  on behalf 
of Sherry Kissinger 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:06:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SSRS Instances

Use Jason's script:  
http://blog.configmgrftw.com/sql-server-inventory-using-configmgr/
As a ConfigItem (a vbscript) targeted to your population you care about, and 
extend hardware inventory.

for me with the view I ended up with, something like this:
select s1.netbios_name0, si.*
from v_gs_sqlinstance si
join v_r_system s1 on s1.resourceid=si.resourceid
where si.InstanceType0 = 'RS'

(Because RS means "reporting services", at least I assume so.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Brian McDonald 
> wrote:

Hey all,


I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can get an inventory of all SSRS 
instances for all SQL Servers? Specifically, I need to know where the SSRS 
service is running.


Has anyone have any samples they can share?


Thanks,

Brian




--
Thank you,

Sherry Kissinger

My Parameters:  Standardize. Simplify. Automate
Blogs: http://www.mofmaster.com, http://mnscug.org/blogs/sherry-kissinger, 
http://www.smguru.org






RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

2016-09-29 Thread Garth Jones
I'm just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box.

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler?

Don't get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I'm doing is giving another 
prospective on things.

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I'm trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn't be surprised if they are washed and reused.

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I'm sure that they will give you more details about this.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?
The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?
I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.
But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless
Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.
And then that dry chicken. B.

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks.

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long...


Right, wrong... I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes..



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?
I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

That is just not acceptable.

-R









AW: [mssms] Message ID 10025 (Download of the content .... has failed)

2016-09-29 Thread Kehl Reto
many thanks Sherry

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Sherry Kissinger
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 19:29
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Message ID 10025 (Download of the content  has failed)

Assuming I've got the right uniqueid location... try this (if it's not right, 
at least it's something to try)

select vui.ArticleID, vui.Title, vui.ci_uniqueID, p.Name, P.Description
from dbo.vUpdatetoPkg as vutp
join dbo.v_updateinfo as vui on vui.ci_id=vutp.ci_id
join dbo.v_package as p on p.PackageID=vutp.PkgId
where vui.CI_UniqueID = '627de01d-44d2-4cf8-8d37-050098ed94e4'

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Kehl Reto 
> wrote:
How can I get the Software Package for this ID? (SCCM 2012 R2 SP1)

Download of the content "627de01d-44d2-4cf8-8d37-050098ed94e4" - "1" has 
failed..
Possible cause: The content can not be found on the network, or the content 
could not be accessed.
Solution: Check to ensure this content has been made available on a 
distribution point. Check to ensure the access control list allows this program 
to be accessed. Check to make sure that the file system path for the content, 
including the path to the cache directory, is not greater than 255 characters.

TIA

Reto




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