Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek


  Is very difficult to find MSX LD software?
 
 Yes, with good luck and connections to Japan you may find disks, but
 they're rare also there. And unfortunately they're also expensive,
 price varies from 80-120 USD per disk + shipping costs.

Bernard tried to find some in the last 3 years and he was only able to buy 
just one. I do not remember what he paid for it though. But it was not THAT 
expensive.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
At http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp I also saw a complete PX-7+LD-8200D (so
this LD model also works with PX-7)+2 MSX laser discs auctioned.
Japanese people were paying a lot of money for this complete system (I
have the pics of the auction).

It seems that JVC-Victor also designed a LD MSX system: http://
members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90.htm http://members.nbci.com/
toragiku/kopa/hc90_2.jpg http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/
hc90_3.jpg http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_4.jpg http://
members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_5.jpg http://members.nbci.com/
toragiku/kopa/hc90_6.jpg (you can see clearly MSX and MSX2 logo)

Please, someone save the pics for me, I have no time right now, and they are nice for 
FUNet/FAQ.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You can also use Sony HB-G900xx computers with LD-player (for example
LDP-1550). It does have the P-Basic and RS-232 for controlling the
player. Iwein van Caelenberg does have both Sony MSX2 and LDP-1550. 

Me too! But i have not tried them yet. And the LDP is NTSC/110 V and still at my 
brother's place...



Grtjs, Manuel

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Saku Taipale


 Bernard tried to find some in the last 3 years and he was only able to buy 
 just one. I do not remember what he paid for it though. But it was not THAT 
 expensive.

Do you remember which title he got ?
Yes, I admit that you may get them cheaper with good luck, but last
2 years I have seen them the price level has been 80-120 USD...

 Please, someone save the pics for me, I have no time right now, and
 they are nice for FUNet/FAQ.

I can save them.

 Me too! But i have not tried them yet. And the LDP is NTSC/110 V and
 still at my brother's place...

Ok, and remember that the digitizing of picture may not work before
you have NTSC signal converted to PAL...

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek

 Do you remember which title he got ?

Umm... Checking... I think Strike Mission, but i am not sure...

 Yes, I admit that you may get them cheaper with good luck, but last
 2 years I have seen them the price level has been 80-120 USD...

In Akihabara they are cheaper I think, but you have to FIND them...
 
  Please, someone save the pics for me, I have no time right now, and
  they are nice for FUNet/FAQ.
 
 I can save them.

Thanks!
 
  Me too! But i have not tried them yet. And the LDP is NTSC/110 V and
  still at my brother's place...
 
 Ok, and remember that the digitizing of picture may not work before
 you have NTSC signal converted to PAL...

Exactly. It can now only be used to control the LDP with the Sony. THat is it.
I think Iwein is getting his NTSC/PAL adapter or making one or something.




Grtjs, Manuel

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Ivan Latorre

Saku Taipale wrote:

  Bernard tried to find some in the last 3 years and he was only able to buy
  just one. I do not remember what he paid for it though. But it was not THAT
  expensive.

Is not possible to duplicate a LD-disk? Like we do with CDs (into CD-R or CD-RW).

The companies that produced MSX LD-disks sold more than 1 copy so it may be
possible.

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Saku Taipale


 Is not possible to duplicate a LD-disk? Like we do with CDs (into CD-R
 or CD-RW).
 The companies that produced MSX LD-disks sold more than 1 copy so it may be
 possible.

Well, yes, but...
The worth of LD-RW device was few years ago something like 250 000 GBP
and one disk for it about 800 GBP (correct if I'm wrong). So it's quite
expensive to make a copy from disk.

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Ivan Latorre

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ivan Latorre wrote:

  Is not possible to duplicate a LD-disk? Like we do with CDs (into CD-R or
 CD-RW).

 IIRC, the disks have the size of an vinyl LP: doesn't fit in any CD toaster I
 know ;-)

I know that. I was talking about a LD-R or LD-RW unit.

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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Maarten ter Huurne

On Friday 13 October 2000 17:31, you wrote:

 Well, yes, but...
 The worth of LD-RW device was few years ago something like 250 000 GBP
 and one disk for it about 800 GBP (correct if I'm wrong). So it's quite
 expensive to make a copy from disk.

What is the capacity of an LD?

Maybe it's feasible to copy the data to CD or DVD and then write some kind of 
emulation layer.

Bye,
Maarten


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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Ivan Latorre

Saku Taipale wrote:

 It's not either cheap to buy needed converters for NTSC - PAL
 conversion. For example good quality NTSC - RGB converter is
 worth of 80-200 USD and RGB - PAL converter you can get from
 Sunrise for 55 Euro.

Yes, you are right. NTSC-PAL converters are a bit expensive:
http://www.teamprod.com/videoconvert_top.htm

Greets




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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-13 Thread Ivan Latorre

Maarten ter Huurne wrote:

 On Friday 13 October 2000 17:31, you wrote:

  Well, yes, but...
  The worth of LD-RW device was few years ago something like 250 000 GBP
  and one disk for it about 800 GBP (correct if I'm wrong). So it's quite
  expensive to make a copy from disk.

 What is the capacity of an LD?

More than a CD, less than a DVD (I donĀ“t know exactly the capacity of a LD-disk,
but is more than 1Gbyte).

 Maybe it's feasible to copy the data to CD or DVD and then write some kind of
 emulation layer.

...

Greetings





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Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Ivan Latorre

Hello

I was wondering which Laser Disc video players
you can connect to a PX-7. Only LD-700?
Is very difficult to find MSX LD software?

Greets




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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Saku Taipale


Hi Ivan,

 I was wondering which Laser Disc video players
 you can connect to a PX-7. Only LD-700?

According to manual you can connect also Pioneer LD-1100. But I haven't
seen any LD-1100 players with the needed control jack. Besides, LD-700
is _lot_ better and reliable than LD-1100... You can get LD-700 players
from USA, they're cheap there, but shipping is expensive... If you
order any players from USA remember to say that sender TURNS the
shipping screw to LOCKED position!

I got my player unlocked and it was in terrible condition, I had to
fix it 2 days before it runned again...

 Is very difficult to find MSX LD software?

Yes, with good luck and connections to Japan you may find disks, but
they're rare also there. And unfortunately they're also expensive,
price varies from 80-120 USD per disk + shipping costs.

I have seen them for sale only once during 1 year in the www.yahoo.co.jp.

Greetings: Saku Taipale, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS. If someone knows where to get disks, I'm very interested in buying
them :-). I have also complete and running Pioneer PX-7 + LD-700
system...



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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Ivan Latorre

Saku Taipale wrote:

 Hi Ivan,

  I was wondering which Laser Disc video players
  you can connect to a PX-7. Only LD-700?

 According to manual you can connect also Pioneer LD-1100. But I haven't
 seen any LD-1100 players with the needed control jack. Besides, LD-700
 is _lot_ better and reliable than LD-1100... You can get LD-700 players
 from USA, they're cheap there, but shipping is expensive... If you
 order any players from USA remember to say that sender TURNS the
 shipping screw to LOCKED position!

 I got my player unlocked and it was in terrible condition, I had to
 fix it 2 days before it runned again...

If you know how to repair a LD-700:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=463442936
4 broken LD-700 players for $36.

  Is very difficult to find MSX LD software?

 Yes, with good luck and connections to Japan you may find disks, but
 they're rare also there. And unfortunately they're also expensive,
 price varies from 80-120 USD per disk + shipping costs.

A lot of money...

 I have seen them for sale only once during 1 year in the www.yahoo.co.jp.

At http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp I also saw a complete PX-7+LD-8200D (so
this LD model also works with PX-7)+2 MSX laser discs auctioned. Japanese
people were paying a lot of money for this complete system (I have the pics
of
the auction).

It seems that JVC-Victor also designed a LD MSX system:
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90.htm
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_2.jpg
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_3.jpg
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_4.jpg
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_5.jpg
http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_6.jpg (you can see clearly MSX and
MSX2 logo)

The above links work (try and try to load the links again if you get error
messages).

Greets





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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Saku Taipale


 If you know how to repair a LD-700:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=463442936
 4 broken LD-700 players for $36.

Quite cheap price, but shipping costs are too high... You can get
working LD-700 for 25-40 USD.

  price varies from 80-120 USD per disk + shipping costs.
 A lot of money...

Yes, but truth is that these disks are rare and seems that they're
quite wanted items too.

  I have seen them for sale only once during 1 year in the www.yahoo.co.jp.
 At http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp I also saw a complete PX-7+LD-8200D (so
 this LD model also works with PX-7)+2 MSX laser discs auctioned. Japanese
 people were paying a lot of money for this complete system (I have the pics
 of the auction).

Ah, yes, I forgot this auction. I saw it too :-). If youwant play MSX
Laserdisks it would be better to buy PX-7 from Japan, because you
will need NTSC model. Other possibility is using needed converters
for getting PAL videosignal from NTSC LD-player. All disks I know
are NTSC.

 It seems that JVC-Victor also designed a LD MSX system:
 http://members.nbci.com/toragiku/kopa/hc90_6.jpg (you can see clearly MSX and
 MSX2 logo)
 The above links work (try and try to load the links again if you get error
 messages).

This was interesting :)

You can also use Sony HB-G900xx computers with LD-player (for example
LDP-1550). It does have the P-Basic and RS-232 for controlling the
player. Iwein van Caelenberg does have both Sony MSX2 and LDP-1550.

Greetings: Saku Taipale, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Ivan Latorre

Saku Taipale wrote:

  If you know how to repair a LD-700:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=463442936
  4 broken LD-700 players for $36.

 Quite cheap price, but shipping costs are too high... You can get
 working LD-700 for 25-40 USD.

   price varies from 80-120 USD per disk + shipping costs.
  A lot of money...

 Yes, but truth is that these disks are rare and seems that they're
 quite wanted items too.

   I have seen them for sale only once during 1 year in the www.yahoo.co.jp.
  At http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp I also saw a complete PX-7+LD-8200D (so
  this LD model also works with PX-7)+2 MSX laser discs auctioned. Japanese
  people were paying a lot of money for this complete system (I have the pics
  of the auction).

 Ah, yes, I forgot this auction. I saw it too :-). If youwant play MSX
 Laserdisks it would be better to buy PX-7 from Japan, because you
 will need NTSC model. Other possibility is using needed converters
 for getting PAL videosignal from NTSC LD-player. All disks I know
 are NTSC.

Hummm. I was interested in a Australian PX-7. It seems that there they use
PAL system ...

Greets




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Re: Pioneer PX-7 and LD

2000-10-12 Thread Saku Taipale


  Ah, yes, I forgot this auction. I saw it too :-). If youwant play MSX
  Laserdisks it would be better to buy PX-7 from Japan, because you
  will need NTSC model. Other possibility is using needed converters
 Hummm. I was interested in a Australian PX-7. It seems that there they use
 PAL system ...

Problem is not a computer itself, "problem" is a LD-disk. As far as I
know all MSX Laserdisk software is NTSC stuff. When you're playing
NTSC disk you need NTSC player. And if you want play MSX LD with
PX-7 you need to superimpose the picture with PX-7. Now you see
what is the problem when your video signal from LD-player is NTSC
and you try to digitize it with PAL computer... result is something
unwanted in the screen.

It's not either cheap to buy needed converters for NTSC - PAL
conversion. For example good quality NTSC - RGB converter is
worth of 80-200 USD and RGB - PAL converter you can get from
Sunrise for 55 Euro.

Greetings: Saku Taipale, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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