Re: Mail User Agent (mutt)

2000-01-04 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 03:16:32PM -0200, Suporte SCO wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have Mutt 0.92.8 (ver 98.2)  instaled in my SCO Unix 5.0.5, I do not
 excute, shows the message below:
Use a recent version. We've reached 1.0 by now.

 dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4
 Killed

Well, does /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4 exist?
If not -- recompile. Or reinstall ncurses.

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Mail User Agent (mutt)

2000-01-04 Thread Suporte SCO

Hello,

I have Mutt 0.92.8 (ver 98.2)  instaled in my SCO Unix 5.0.5, I do not
excute, shows the message below:



# mutt

dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4
Killed

#

Thank,
Flavio Souza



suggestion on mutt's manual

2000-01-04 Thread Robert Chien

Hi,

I'd like to suggest that from now on, whenever a new
command/variable is added to mutt, the version number be
reflected in mutt's manual accordingly, like this:

  6.3 Configuration variables

  subscribe (version 1.1 and up)
blah blah blah ...

While mutt's manual (esp. the one on www.mutt.org) should
always be concurrent with the latest version, people who use
an older version but new to mutt may be less confused this
way.

Just a thought...

Robert



Re: Mail User Agent (mutt)

2000-01-04 Thread Jan Ludewig

On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 03:16:32PM -0200, Suporte SCO wrote:
 # mutt
 
 dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4
 Killed
in the source-packet is a file INSTALLATION. there is an explanation
given how to configure it using which library.

Jan



Mail User Agent (mutt)

2000-01-04 Thread Suporte SCO

Hello,

I have Mutt 0.92.8 (ver 98.2)  instaled in my SCO Unix 5.0.5, I do not
excute, shows the message below:



# mutt

dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4
Killed

#

Thank,
Flavio Souza



[2000-01-04] anon-cvs / today's snapshots

2000-01-04 Thread Thomas Roessler

Apparently, some script on sigtrap.guug.de has been messing around
with the file ownership of the CVS history file, leading to problems
with anonymous CVS, and to empty snapshot tar-balls.

I have corrected the history file for now, and generated new
snapshots, which are available under /pub/mutt/snapshots/ from
ftp.mutt.org.  I hope the underlying problem will be fixed soon.

Sorry for the inconvenience, tlr

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Local/GMT Time Sorting/Displaying

2000-01-04 Thread Jeremy M. Dolan

By default (I think, I made my .muttrc quite a while ago but I think
this is how it works by default). By default, mutt displays message
Date: headers as they are entered on the remote side. It also uses
this value for the "Jan XX" part of the index. On many mailing lists,
people are in differant time zones, and this causes some undesirable
effects.

What I would like to have is:
  * All message Date: headers displayed in local machine time (C[DS]T)
  * Date part of message index displayed in local machine time
  * Messages sorted by theyre local dates, no more priority given to
aussies and such =)

Can mutt do this?

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Systems Administrator
AxisTangent  Technologies



Re: suggestion on mutt's manual

2000-01-04 Thread Jeremy Blosser

Robert Chien [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 I'd like to suggest that from now on, whenever a new
 command/variable is added to mutt, the version number be
 reflected in mutt's manual accordingly, like this:
 
   6.3 Configuration variables
 
   subscribe (version 1.1 and up)
 blah blah blah ...
 
 While mutt's manual (esp. the one on www.mutt.org) should
 always be concurrent with the latest version, people who use
 an older version but new to mutt may be less confused this
 way.

While this may be a good idea, there are two things to note:

- the manual on mutt.org is for the current stable version, so 1.1 things
  aren't in it.  for now it's expected users of unstable can figure out how
  to read their own copy of the manual.
- the 'recent changes' link is a concatenated version of the various NEWS
  files across the last several releases and in general shows where new
  things are added/etc.

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Re: Y100 (was: mutt y2k)

2000-01-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 10:40:46 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
 On 2000-01-01 19:12:28 +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote:
  Mutt as a small y2k problem on the receiving end.  While mutt works
  just fine with four-digit year numbers, RFC 822 originally specifies
  two-digit year numbers, which still seem to be permitted.  (Not that
  any one should be using them nowadays...  However, at least one user
  seems to have stumbled over them in the wild already.)
 
 The year 100 is converted by date_format="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z" to
 2000. Problem of mutt or of strftime?

Fortunately, time machines don't exist. Otherwise I don't know how
one could write a mail in year 99; perhaps 0099? What is the minimal
year that is accepted?

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Re: Local/GMT Time Sorting/Displaying

2000-01-04 Thread David T-G

Jeremy --

...and then Jeremy M. Dolan said...
% 
% What I would like to have is:
%   * All message Date: headers displayed in local machine time (C[DS]T)
%   * Date part of message index displayed in local machine time
%   * Messages sorted by theyre local dates, no more priority given to
% aussies and such =)

Well, the third item says that you don't really want to sort by date
anymore, because 2100 CT is *still* already tomorrow in Oz.  Right?

If you accept the remote Date: header to convert it to your local time,
then it could be today or tomorrow or 1900 or February, and nothing will
change that.  You can't take care of someone else's clock, no matter
how much we all may try :-)

Do you just want to sort on order received?  That's a lot easier than
rewriting the Date: header based on the [latest] Received: header...

In fact, what you could do, if you were infernally clever, is write a
script that would parse the Received: headers, going back in time (down
the headers) and changing any times that were wrong -- assuming that
you can figure out the difference between an abnormally long mail hop
delay and a true clock error, and that your clock is always really right
(or maybe you jump down to the 2nd Received: line, which is written by
whatever gave the mail to your machine, and assume that *it* is right :-)  
Then you run the script with procmail, muck up all of the headers in
your messages, and happily know that the dates are now right.

Come to think of it, you didn't get this from me ;-)


% 
% Can mutt do this?

Given the right tool from the rest of the OS, there's nothing it can't do
if you can program it ;-)


% 
% -- 
% Jeremy M. Dolan
% Systems Administrator
% AxisTangent  Technologies


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Re: switching to mutt from Outlook

2000-01-04 Thread Fairlight

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 10:57:41AM -0500, Jeff Abrahamson thus spoke:
 This is more mutt advocacy than usage, and is perhaps more general
 than just mutt. Well, hope it's still appropriate.
 
 I'm trying to switch someone from Outlook to mutt. I've found
 utilities on the net to convert his address book, but I've had no
 success finding utilities for converting the actual mail files. Any
 tips?
 
 Tia.
 

Sure...bounce every message to the new address.  That's the only way I can
think of getting them out of the .pst file.  I was told no known extractor
exists, and why bother?--shouldn't be using M$ anyway to begin with.  :)

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Re: Mail User Agent (mutt)

2000-01-04 Thread David DeSimone

Suporte SCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 # mutt
 dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4
 Killed

Did you look for the dynamic library at /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4 ??
It's obviously not there, so... go find it.

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PGP and batch mode

2000-01-04 Thread Alec Habig

Hi all,

I would like to be able to PGP (actually, gpg) sign messages sent from
the command line in batch mode.  Yes, I know this has its inherent
security problems, but it does have its uses -- namely, making email
from a daemon that much harder to spoof.

I can do this by having gpg generate a "--clearsign" file, and inserting
the appropriate "Content-Type:" header.  However, I'd like to do this
the "right" way with a detached mime signature, the way mutt does it
when invoked interactively. 

Is there a way to feed the gpg password to mutt in batch-mode?

   Thanks,
   Alec

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using ! in mailboxes and status_format

2000-01-04 Thread brd

Hi all.  I have the following mailboxes set up in my muttrc:

mailboxes "!" =a2 =ph =zspam =mutt-users =zblocked =mac

When I get new mail in any of the folders (from procmail) except my
inbox, the %b field in my status bar gets updated.  Likewise, when I do
'c' to change boxes, the new ones present themselves, except the inbox.

Is the "!" correct for my mailboxes line?  My other theory is that
something else, maybe bash, is touching my Mailbox.

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: using ! in mailboxes and status_format

2000-01-04 Thread brd

Nevermind, I answered my own question as soon as I wrote this, of
course.  My irc client turned out to be the culprit.  It was displaying
a message on new mail to the inbox.  I was so sure my shell was doing it
that I didn't think about other apps.

Brian

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 02:55:35PM -0600, bigfoot wrote:
 Hi all.  I have the following mailboxes set up in my muttrc:
 
 mailboxes "!" =a2 =ph =zspam =mutt-users =zblocked =mac
 
 When I get new mail in any of the folders (from procmail) except my
 inbox, the %b field in my status bar gets updated.  Likewise, when I do
 'c' to change boxes, the new ones present themselves, except the inbox.
 
 Is the "!" correct for my mailboxes line?  My other theory is that
 something else, maybe bash, is touching my Mailbox.
 
 Thanks,
 Brian
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Re: Local/GMT Time Sorting/Displaying

2000-01-04 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 06:58 -0600 04 Jan 2000, "Jeremy M. Dolan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I would like to have is:
   * All message Date: headers displayed in local machine time (C[DS]T)

Mutt displays headers as they are, aside from MIME decoding, so I don't
think there's a way to do that without changing the source.  However,
you could add the local version of the time to $pager_format.

   * Date part of message index displayed in local machine time

Change the squigly braces ({}) to square brackets ([]) in $index_format.

   * Messages sorted by theyre local dates, no more priority given to
 aussies and such =)

This is the default (actually they're sorted by GMT time, but the result
is the same).  AFAIK, there isn't a way to sort by sender's local time.

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Re: switching to mutt from Outlook

2000-01-04 Thread staeci

Eudora breaks atatchments from the messages and keeps them in a directory. Each 
mailbox has an index
file which keeps tracks of what belongs to what.

Apologies to he to whome I replied by accident instead of this list.

Quoting Jon Walthour [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There is another option, as well. Get a copy of Eudora (not Eudora Lite) and convert 
them through there. I did this some time ago. So, I don't remember all the details. 
But Eudora (and I just downloaded a trial version rather than buying it) will convert 
the Outlook .pst to standard mail format which is what Mutt reads.
 


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Re: Local/GMT Time Sorting/Displaying

2000-01-04 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 06:58:45 -0600, Jeremy M. Dolan wrote:

 What I would like to have is:
   * All message Date: headers displayed in local machine time (C[DS]T)

Mutt cannot rewrite the date header or any other headers when
displaying the message.

   * Date part of message index displayed in local machine time

Change "%{%b %d}" to "%[%b %d]" in the default index_format string
and you see the send time of the messages converted to your local
time zone.

   * Messages sorted by theyre local dates, no more priority given to
 aussies and such =)

You can sort by send time or receive time, but the times are always
converted to the same time zone before sorting so that come in true
chronology if their time stamps are reliable.

-- 
Byrial



Re: Y100 (was: mutt y2k)

2000-01-04 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 16:02:45 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

 Fortunately, time machines don't exist. Otherwise I don't know how
 one could write a mail in year 99; perhaps 0099? What is the minimal
 year that is accepted?

1970. All times are internally stored as an unsigned integer
showing the number of seconds passed since Jan 1, 1970. Mutt
cannot handle times before that date.

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Mutt for Next-Nextstep3.3-m68k?

2000-01-04 Thread irv-subs

Would anyone tell me what I have to do, to
successfully build mutt -- I tried 1.1.1i and got
many and varied errors -- in this environment? 

Regards,
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ANNOUNCE: getmail v.0.94, a 'fetchmail' replacement

2000-01-04 Thread Charles Cazabon

Slightly off-topic (flames in private mail, please), but applicable to  
mutt:
 
getmail 0.94 is now available from 
http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail/
 
getmail is intended as a simple replacement for fetchmail, for those who
don't need all of its various features, configuration options, and bugs.
It retrieves mail only from POP3 servers, and delivers reliably to Maildirs.
mbox delivery has been added as of v.0.94.

It is written in Python and released under the GPL version 2.
 
It can retrieve all mail, or only unread messages, from an unlimited number
of POP3 mailboxes on one or more POP3 servers.  Configuration and usage is
straightforward and simple.  getmail does not yet support delivery to
different users per message from a single POP3 mailbox ('domain mailbox'
or 'multidrop mailbox'). 
 
Any questions, feedback, etc, is greatly appreciated, but should be done
in private email.

Charles Cazabon
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Re: Multiple Signatures

2000-01-04 Thread Ryan Claycamp

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 10:42:23AM -0500, Subba Rao wrote:
 Is it possible to have multiple signature files and be able to select one before 
sending out the email?
 

I use the program signify.  It makes a random signature from a file
you create.  It is supposed to have scoring so signatures can be
weighted, i.e. appear more often than others.  I haven't tried that
option.  My .muttrc file for my signature looks like this:

set signature=/usr/bin/signify|

Ryan

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Passing arguments to the Print_Commands Variable

2000-01-04 Thread John Verel

Hi.

I'm trying to print using enscript.  If I set the print_command
variable to enscript, it prints fine.  However, if I use any of the
arguments available for enscript, such as the -f variable to change
font, I always get an "unknown variable" message upon opening Mutt
(version 1.0pre3i).  I've been unable to pass any arguments to enscript
or to pr, for that matter.  Please tell me what I'm missing?

Thank you.

John



Re: Passing arguments to the Print_Commands Variable

2000-01-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

John Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2000:
 I'm trying to print using enscript.  If I set the print_command
 variable to enscript, it prints fine.  However, if I use any of the
 arguments available for enscript, such as the -f variable to change
 font, I always get an "unknown variable" message upon opening Mutt
 (version 1.0pre3i).

I'm guessing you're trying this:

  set print_command=enscript -f font

When you probably should be using:

  set print_command="enscript -f font"


Does that help?

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send-hook, personalities and reply

2000-01-04 Thread Mat

Hi there!
I'm trying to configure properly my mutt ;)
I would like to to reply to an incoming mail using the
TO: field of the mail that I received in my header FROM:.
I need this because I have many address mail on several mail server,
and I fetch the mails on my local user.

I've tried with this one:

send-hook '~t ^mat@antwerpen\.com$' 'my_hdr From: `~f`'

In a second time i tried also these:

set reverse_name# reply as the user to whom the mail was sent to
# Example:  I often get emails addressed "To:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]". With "reverse_name" I can
# thus reply as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -
# even from other accounts.
set reply_self  # If unset and you are replying to a message sent
# by you, Mutt will assume that you want to reply
# to the recipients of that message rather
# than to yourself.

but it doesn't seems to be all rights.
What's wrong?
Thanks in advance,Mat











Mutt for Next-Nextstep3.3-m68k?

2000-01-04 Thread Irving_Wolfe

Would anyone tell me what I have to do, to
successfully build mutt -- I tried 1.1.1i and got
many and varied errors -- in this environment? 

Regards,
 - Irving
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Re: send-hook, personalities and reply

2000-01-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 30 Dec 1999:
 Hi there!

Hello!

First, please use the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks.

 I would like to to reply to an incoming mail using the
 TO: field of the mail that I received in my header FROM:.
 I need this because I have many address mail on several mail server,
 and I fetch the mails on my local user.

Ok, you want to use $reverse_name.

 I've tried with this one:
 
 send-hook '~t ^mat@antwerpen\.com$' 'my_hdr From: `~f`'

That won't work, ~f is a pattern match operator, not a variable.
And secondly, you unfortunately can't mix use of $reverse_name with a
"my_hdr From: ..." command, the my_hdr takes precedence and the
$reverse_name effect gets ignored.  (There is a solution for this in
the developement branch version of Mutt, but if you don't need to use
"my_hdr From:" for anything else then you can ignore that, and just
not use "my_hdr From:" at all.)

 set reverse_name# reply as the user to whom the mail was sent to

This is what you want.

If it doesn't work, make sure you don't have any "my_hdr From:"
definitions.

Also, be sure to make sure your alternates setting is correct. (I'm not
sure if that's needed for $reverse_name, but it's a good idea to have it
set up properly anyway.)  For example, this is (part of) what I use:

  set alternates=^([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|mikko@.*dna.fi)$

 set reply_self  # If unset and you are replying to a message sent
 # by you, Mutt will assume that you want to reply
 # to the recipients of that message rather
 # than to yourself.

You probably want to actually have "unset reply_self", which is the
default.  This is mostly useful when you're looking at an email you sent
yourself (for example, in a =sent-mail folder) and want to send an email
to all the people you originally emailed, but comment on what you
yourself wrote.  If you have $reply_self unset, you can hit just "r" to
do that, provided your alternates setting is correct.


Hope this helped,
Mikko
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