help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Neelakanth Nadgir


Hi all,
This question has been answered here before I guess, but for some
reason I am not able to get it to work.

When ever I send email to anybody in the gnu.org domain, I want my
"From" address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have the following set up in my muttrc file 
mutt complains "set: unknown variable"

any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks,
-neelakanth



=
send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
set [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

==


-neelakanth
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
_
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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:35:29PM -0700, Neelakanth Nadgir wrote:

See http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
there's no variable "from".

 send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
   set [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
   my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Try:

send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
 my_hdr From: Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Terje Elde

* Ralf Hildebrandt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000403 12:26]:
 See http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
 there's no variable "from".

Sure there is, cut'n'paster from my muttrc:
set from = "Terje Elde [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

It's in the development versions tho, but the original poster was running
1.1.10i, so he can use the from variable without problems.

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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Tatge

On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:35:29PM -0700, Neelakanth Nadgir wrote:
 When ever I send email to anybody in the gnu.org domain, I want my
 "From" address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have the following set up in my muttrc file 
 mutt complains "set: unknown variable"
 
 =
 send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
   set [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
   my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 
 ==

The manual says:
Usage: send-hook [!]pattern command
^^^
IMHO this means you have to divide this send-hook into three
separate ones.
By the way, you don't need ~t since ~C matches to: and cc:.


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GEM OLSUN

2000-04-03 Thread Patrick

Hi all,

How can I set up mutt to display Turkish fonts correctly?  Or is the
problem that I haven't told Debian to use the correct ISO fonts?  The UK
 pound symbol also fails to show correctly.

All help appreciated!

Selam Patrick
Gndermi olduun mailini aldm.Teekkrler,ancak hasta olduunuz  haberine 
zldm. nallah ksa srede iyileirsiniz.
  Bizler hepimiz iyiyiz. Bir sorun yok. Hayat ylesine devam ediyor.
  Hepinize selamlar gnderiyoruz. Ayser'e ayrca gemi olsun. Umarm abuk 
iyileir. Zira ocuklarla baya sknt ekiyorsunuzdur.
  Kendinize iyi bakn. Grmek zere.
 ZEK ER ve ALES
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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, 02 Apr 2000:
 send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
 set [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
   my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

The second "set" is superfluous, the proper command would be:

  set signature=~/.sig.gnu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(yours has a "set" between there).

Anyway, setting $from from a send-hook will not work, the change will
not come into effect until the next message.  To adjust the From: header
from a send-hook you need to use "my_hdr From:" instead.

Additionally, you need to put a ; between commands (the set and my_hdr,
and also between the my_hdr commands if you add a second for setting
From).


I hope this helps,
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Re: GEM OLSUN

2000-04-03 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS

Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,
 
 How can I set up mutt to display Turkish fonts correctly?  Or is the
 problem that I haven't told Debian to use the correct ISO fonts?  The UK
 £ pound symbol also fails to show correctly.

  ZEKİ ER ve AİLESİ

Your message was in iso-8859-9 and contained characters such as İ
(capital I with dot above), so you've probably got mutt set up
correctly.

If non-us-ascii characters are displayed as '?', then you need to
adjust your locale (export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr). If they are
displayed as different characters with diacritics, then you need a
different font. Probably. I'm not an expert on this stuff.

Edmund



Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 14:51:45 -0400, Michael Tatge wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:35:29PM -0700, Neelakanth Nadgir wrote:
  When ever I send email to anybody in the gnu.org domain, I want my
  "From" address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have the following set up in my muttrc file 
  mutt complains "set: unknown variable"
  
  =
  send-hook '(~C gnu|~t gnu)'  "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
set [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
  my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
  ==

You get the message "set: unknown variable" because you may set
several variables in one set command, so mutt thinks that you are
trying to set a variable named set. Try this:

send-hook '~C gnu' "set signature=~/.sig.gnu \
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ;\
my_hdr Reply-To: Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

 The manual says:
 Usage: send-hook [!]pattern command
 ^^^
 IMHO this means you have to divide this send-hook into three
 separate ones.

It would be technically more correct if the manual said:

  Usage: send-hook [!]pattern command-line

where command-line is as defined in section 3.1:

  3.1.  Syntax of Initialization Files

  An initialization file consists of a series of `commands''.  Each
  line of the file may contain one or more commands.  When multiple
  commands are used, they must be separated by a semicolon (;).

   set realname='Mutt user' ; ignore x-

This means that you may have several commands in hook a command;
they just have to be separated with semicolons.

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Re: GEM OLSUN

2000-04-03 Thread Patrick

   ZEK ER ve ALES
 
 Your message was in iso-8859-9 and contained characters such as 
 (capital I with dot above), so you've probably got mutt set up
 correctly.
 
 If non-us-ascii characters are displayed as '?', then you need to
 adjust your locale (export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr). If they are
 displayed as different characters with diacritics, then you need a
 different font. Probably. I'm not an expert on this stuff.

Oddly it works for some chatacters when I sent and recieve new messages but 
still lots of characters don't display.

I don't get any effect when I enter export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr
at the Bash prompt.  Is there something I've forgotten to set up in
Linux I wonder?




Re: GEÇMIS OLSUN

2000-04-03 Thread Gero Treuner

On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 03:18:46PM +0100, Patrick wrote:
  If non-us-ascii characters are displayed as '?', then you need to
  adjust your locale (export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr). If they are
  displayed as different characters with diacritics, then you need a
  different font. Probably. I'm not an expert on this stuff.
 
 Oddly it works for some chatacters when I sent and recieve new messages but 
 still lots of characters don't display.
 
 I don't get any effect when I enter export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr
 at the Bash prompt.  Is there something I've forgotten to set up in
 Linux I wonder?

The character set can be specified in the LANG environment, too (if it
is set up correctly on your system . chances are good with
glibc-2.x.x)

Configure your terminal to use the character set best suitable for you,
then in a non-csh use something like

   LANG=tr.iso-8859-9
   export LANG

Check the $charset mutt variable to reflect this setting. When still some
characters are missing, check your character set for completeness.


Gero



Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Neelakanth

Sometime ago, Neelakanth Nadgir said:
 This question has been answered here before I guess, but for some
 reason I am not able to get it to work.
 
 When ever I send email to anybody in the gnu.org domain, I want my
 "From" address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have the following set up in my muttrc file 
 mutt complains "set: unknown variable"


Thanks a lot guys, I have finally got it working.
developers, thanks for making such a great mail client!
-neelakanth



Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Andy Wergedal

neelakanth,

Could you post your solution?
I have the same problem and I can't get it to work.

-- Andy

On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 10:50:55AM -0700, Neelakanth wrote:
 Sometime ago, Neelakanth Nadgir said:
  This question has been answered here before I guess, but for some
  reason I am not able to get it to work.
  
  When ever I send email to anybody in the gnu.org domain, I want my
  "From" address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have the following set up in my muttrc file 
  mutt complains "set: unknown variable"
 
 
 Thanks a lot guys, I have finally got it working.
 developers, thanks for making such a great mail client!
 -neelakanth



Re: Using send-hooks with replies

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 04:29:01PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser muttered:
- Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
-  Jimmy Mäkelä [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
-   Is it possible to look at the original To: of the message which I wan't
-   to reply to, and execute commands based on the contents of that.
-   
-   This would be nice since it is pretty common to have more than one
-   email-address, and it is IMHO better to have the address which they wrote
-   to as From in the reply.
-  
-  This must surely be the second most frequently asked question (after
-  the one about hooks having a permanent effect unless you also have a
-  default hook to reset the state).
- 
- I don't know, "how do I make Mutt filter mail" is pretty popular too ;)
- 
-  See reverse_name in the latest mutt. Unfortunately this isn't in
-  mutt-1.0, I think.
- 
- Others have noted this has been around forever, I will add that you should
- also see the $alternates variable, as reverse_name is useless without it.

OK, having gotten this far, how do you set it up? I experimented and came
up with the following:


# Set the various names by which I expect to get email. A regex.
set alternates="([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])"


send-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.sig.wyolp.web; \
my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \
my_hdr Reply-To: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED]"



Mutt version is 1.0.1.

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Re: Using send-hooks with replies

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 11:41:53AM -0600, Charles Curley muttered:
- On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 04:29:01PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser muttered:
- - Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
- -  Jimmy Mäkelä [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- -   Is it possible to look at the original To: of the message which I wan't
- -   to reply to, and execute commands based on the contents of that.
- -   
- -   This would be nice since it is pretty common to have more than one
- -   email-address, and it is IMHO better to have the address which they wrote
- -   to as From in the reply.
- -  
- -  This must surely be the second most frequently asked question (after
- -  the one about hooks having a permanent effect unless you also have a
- -  default hook to reset the state).
- - 
- - I don't know, "how do I make Mutt filter mail" is pretty popular too ;)
- - 
- -  See reverse_name in the latest mutt. Unfortunately this isn't in
- -  mutt-1.0, I think.
- - 
- - Others have noted this has been around forever, I will add that you should
- - also see the $alternates variable, as reverse_name is useless without it.
- 
- OK, having gotten this far, how do you set it up? I experimented and came
- up with the following:
- 
- 
- # Set the various names by which I expect to get email. A regex.
- set alternates="([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])"
- 
- 
- send-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.sig.wyolp.web; \
- my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \
- my_hdr Reply-To: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
- 
- 
- 
- Mutt version is 1.0.1.

Also, it helps if you set generic hooks to set the variable back to their
defaults for the next message. Otherwise when you send a reply to an email
sent to alternate address, the changes become permanent until you send a
reply to an email to another alternate address.


# globals, apply to all emails.
send-hook . unmy_hdr Reply-To:
send-hook . 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook . 'set attribution="On %d, %n wrote:"'
send-hook . set signature=~/.signatures/.signature


Is anyone maintaining a Mutt HOW-TO?


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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Neelakanth

Sometime ago, Andy Wergedal said:
 Could you post your solution?
 I have the same problem and I can't get it to work.
 
 -- Andy
 

Andy, here is a part of my muttrc file
==
send-hook '(~C gnu)' source ~/.mutt/profile.gnu

send-hook '(~C mutt)' "set signature="uptime|" ;my_hdr From: Neelakanth 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] " 

==

profile.gnu contains normal mutt stuff like my_hdr, etc...
hope that helped
-neelakanth





Re: Using send-hooks with replies

2000-04-03 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 03 Apr 2000:
 - Others have noted this has been around forever, I will add that you should
 - also see the $alternates variable, as reverse_name is useless without it.
 
 OK, having gotten this far, how do you set it up? I experimented and came
 up with the following:
 
 # Set the various names by which I expect to get email. A regex.
 set alternates="([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])"

I'm not sure if you're asking for comments or not.  That looks fine to
me though.

 send-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.sig.wyolp.web; \
 my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \
 my_hdr Reply-To: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

You may want to use

  my_hdr From: Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ie. include your name in the From header as well.  Also, there's no need
to specify a Reply-To at all if the address is the same as From, that's
the default.  Reply-To should only be specified if it's different from
the From header.


Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 03 Apr 2000:
 Also, it helps if you set generic hooks to set the variable back to their
 defaults for the next message.

Indeed. :-)

 Is anyone maintaining a Mutt HOW-TO?

Not that I know of, unless you count the FAQ as such.


Regards,
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Re: GEM OLSUN

2000-04-03 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS

Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ZEKİ ER ve AİLESİ
  
  Your message was in iso-8859-9 and contained characters such as İ
  (capital I with dot above), so you've probably got mutt set up
  correctly.
  
  If non-us-ascii characters are displayed as '?', then you need to
  adjust your locale (export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr). If they are
  displayed as different characters with diacritics, then you need a
  different font. Probably. I'm not an expert on this stuff.
 
 Oddly it works for some chatacters when I sent and recieve new messages but 
 still lots of characters don't display.
 
 I don't get any effect when I enter export LANG=tr or export LC_CTYPE=tr
 at the Bash prompt.  Is there something I've forgotten to set up in
 Linux I wonder?

You didn't say what happens to those characters. Do they appear as
'?', as ' ', or as something else? You also didn't say what kind of
terminal you are using: Linux console, xterm, ...?

Check your terminal understands iso-8859-9 with echo -e "\335". That's
I with a dot.

Edmund



[patrick: Re: GEM OLSUN]

2000-04-03 Thread Patrick

- Forwarded message from Patrick patrick -

Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:57:33 +0100
From: Patrick patrick
Subject: Re: GEM OLSUN

Hi again,
 
 You didn't say what happens to those characters. Do they appear as
 '?', as ' ', or as something else? You also didn't say what kind of
 terminal you are using: Linux console, xterm, ...?

Its ??? all the way and I am using Teraterm Pro under Windows with a
Debian server.
 
 Check your terminal understands iso-8859-9 with echo -e "\335". That's
 I with a dot.
 
It didn't understand - gave me a capital Y with a dot above it.
 Edmund

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OT- print front ends

2000-04-03 Thread climer

I have a slightly off-topic question.  I am looking for a program to format my
printouts from mutt to be slightly nicer.  Currently I get the basic
line-printer like dump but I would like a bit more.  Having no real experience
with user tools to make this prettier I beg for comments from other mutt
users.  Please forgive my OT transgression.
/Duncan
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Re: OT- print front ends

2000-04-03 Thread Neelakanth

Sometime ago, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I have a slightly off-topic question.  I am looking for a program to format my
 printouts from mutt to be slightly nicer.  Currently I get the basic
 line-printer like dump but I would like a bit more.  Having no real experience
 with user tools to make this prettier I beg for comments from other mutt
 users.  Please forgive my OT transgression.
 /Duncan
 -- 
 Duncan Watson

If you are looking for printing within mutt, have you checked out
a2ps? works wonderfully for me.

hope that helped.
-neelakanth
  4:52pm  up 31 day(s), 21:46,  1 user,  load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.07



Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-03 Thread David DeSimone

Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path:  header containing
 only your email address (no quoted name, etc).

This is really a problem best solved in the MTA, rather than with an MUA
like Mutt or Pine.  The MTA is best suited to handle the task of making
your E-mail appear to come from a particular domain or pseudo-domain. 
And, once configured properly, ALL of your E-mail, no matter what MUA
(even /bin/mail) will have proper headers.  Wouldn't that be nice?

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Re: help, set from=xxx

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Tatge

On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 04:13:41PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:

[snip]
[send-hooks]
 Additionally, you need to put a ; between commands
Hey, good to know. This could simplify my muttrc in a lot of cases. :-)


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Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-03 Thread Charles Cazabon

David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path:  header containing
  only your email address (no quoted name, etc).
 
 This is really a problem best solved in the MTA, rather than with an MUA
 like Mutt or Pine.  The MTA is best suited to handle the task of making
 your E-mail appear to come from a particular domain or pseudo-domain. 
 And, once configured properly, ALL of your E-mail, no matter what MUA
 (even /bin/mail) will have proper headers.  Wouldn't that be nice?

Yes, but the original poster wanted to be able to set this for some mail
and not for others; i.e. the default was correct for most mail, and he just
wanted to be able to change his envelope sender when dealing with a
particular ezmlm-based mailing list administration address.

I'm quite aware of what should be done in the MTA vs. the MUA, thank you.

Charles
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