Re: not quoting signatures on reply

2000-08-11 Thread Michael Tatge

Caster muttered:
  It's a valid escape sequence, and I think I've heard of it before.  It
  might not, however, be fully documented :-)
 
 In fact I don't see any mention of it in the docs (I mean in refer to
 the name of the edited file).

It's there:

5.3.3.3.  Command Expansion

  The various commands defined in the mailcap files are passed to the
  /bin/sh shell using the system() function.  Before the command is  
  passed to /bin/sh -c, it is parsed to expand various special 
  parameters with information from Mutt.  The keywords Mutt expands
  are:

 %s As seen in the basic mailcap section, this variable is expanded 
to a filename specified by the calling program.  This file
contains the body of the message to view/print/edit or where
the composing program should place the results of composition. 
In addition, the use of this keyword causes Mutt to not pass
the body of the message to the view/print/edit program on
stdin.
 
HTH,

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Re: viewing image attachments

2000-08-11 Thread Brett Coon

On Thursday, Luke Ravitch said something like:

 I don't know if this is part of your problem, but I found it necessary
 to add the "force_html" switch to lynx in my .mailcap.  I.e.:
 
text/html; lynx -force_html -dump %s ; copiousoutput

 Otherwise I would just get the HTML source.  (Mutt's temporary file
 names don't have .html extensions, so lynx was assuming it was just a
 plain text file.)

I use what is suggested in the manual:

   text/html; lynx -dump %s ; copiousoutput ; nametemplate=%s.html

This  causes  the  temporary  file  to  be  named  with  a  .html
extension.  Works for me.

-Brett

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Blank messages in IMAP index

2000-08-11 Thread cgreen

I have a strange problem when opening IMAP folders with mutt.  After
having experimented with a number of different IMAP clients some of my
IMAP folders when opened display an index like the one below:-

  1 Nov 15 vile-users-help (  92) vile-users response to "request" messa
  2   F May 04 (   0)
  3   F Jun 05 (   0)
  4   F Jun 05 (   0)
  5   F Jun 05 (   0)
  6   F Jun 05 (   0)
  7   F Jun 05 (   0)
  8   F Jun 05 (   0)
  9   F Jun 05 (   0)
 10   F Jul 10 (   0)
 11   F Jul 25 (   0)
 12   F Jul 25 (   0)
 13   F Jul 25 (   0)
 14   F Jul 25 (   0)
 15   F Jul 25 (   0)
 16   F Jul 25 (   0)
 17   F Jul 25 (   0)
 18   F Jul 25 (   0)
 19   F Jul 25 (   0)
 20   F Jul 25 (   0)
 21   F Jul 25 (   0)
 22   F Jul 25 (   0)
 23   F Jul 25 (   0)
 24   F Jul 25 (   0)
 25   F Jul 25 (   0)
 26   F Jul 25 (   0)
 27   F Jul 25 (   0)
 28   F Jul 25 (   0)
 29   F Jul 25 (   0)
 30   F Jul 25 (   0)
 31   F Jul 25 (   0)
 32   F Jul 25 (   0)
 33   F Jul 25 (   0)
 34   F Jul 25 (   0)
-   35 O F Jul 25 (   0)
 36 O F Jul 25 (   0)
 37 O F Jul 25 (   0)


If I open the messages they are perfectly OK and the subject etc. then
appears in the index.  What's going on?

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Re: not quoting signatures on reply

2000-08-11 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 02:40:18AM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:
 Caster muttered:
   It's a valid escape sequence, and I think I've heard of it before.  It
   might not, however, be fully documented :-)
  
  In fact I don't see any mention of it in the docs (I mean in refer to
  the name of the edited file).
 
 It's there:
 
 5.3.3.3.  Command Expansion
 
   The various commands defined in the mailcap files are passed to the
   /bin/sh shell using the system() function.  Before the command is
   passed to /bin/sh -c, it is parsed to expand various special
   parameters with information from Mutt.

It would be nice to mention that $editor also passes through this
expansion stage (and add a reference to this section in 6.3.35. which
talks about $editor).

Are there more places other than mailcap and $editor that accept these
keywords?

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1.3.7 build problem on Solaris

2000-08-11 Thread cgreen

I am trying to build 1.3.7 on Solaris 2.6, I am building:-
--with-curses --enable-pop --enable-imap

I'm getting an error in the imap directory:-

Making all in imap
make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `../types.h'
Current working directory /usr/chris/mutt-1.3.7/imap


There are lots of references to sys/types.h in the code but the
Makefile is looking for ../types.h - is this a missing file or is the
Makefile wrong?

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Build problems - more information

2000-08-11 Thread cgreen

Re: my build problems with 1.3.7, I have tried some other versions:-

1.2.5 builds OK on my Solaris 2.6
1.3.5 builds OK
1.3.6 fails in the same way as I described for 1.3.7
1.3.7 fails


I have built 1.3.7 on Linux systems so it would seem that some change
between 1.3.5 and 1.3.6 has broken the build on Solaris.

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Re: 1.3.7 build problem on Solaris

2000-08-11 Thread Lars Hecking

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am trying to build 1.3.7 on Solaris 2.6, I am building:-
 --with-curses --enable-pop --enable-imap
 
 I'm getting an error in the imap directory:-
 
 Making all in imap
 make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `../types.h'
 Current working directory /usr/chris/mutt-1.3.7/imap
 
 
 There are lots of references to sys/types.h in the code but the
 Makefile is looking for ../types.h - is this a missing file or is the
 Makefile wrong?

 Works fine here on Solaris. Do a make clean and try again.

$ configure ...
$ make
./gen_defs ./OPS ./OPS.PGP  keymap_defs.h
gcc -DSHAREDIR=\"/usr/local/share/mutt\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/usr/local/etc\"   
-DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I. -I. -I./imap-Iintl 
-I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/ncurses/include -I./intl  -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c 
checktypes.c
gcc  -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -L/usr/local/ncurses/lib -R/usr/local/ncurses/lib -o 
checktypes  checktypes.o  -lnsl -lsocket 
./checktypes  types.h
[...]




Re: not quoting signatures on reply

2000-08-11 Thread Kai Blin

Sitting at the campfire, Caster told:

 However not everyone is using vim, so such option inside mutt could be
 useful.

I still don't see why this is a Mutt issue. UN*X/Linux philosophy is to have
one program working on one field and using other programs for other work.
Mutt is one of those. that's why you use lynx or whatever webbrowser to view
html, your $editor to edit mails..

We don't want Mutt to become something like StarOffice (can do anything, but
poorly), do we?

Greetings

Kai

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Re: viewing image attachments-solved!

2000-08-11 Thread Dale Morris

I installed xli, set up Roland Rosenfelds' mailcap and mime.types in
/.mutt and everything now works fine.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 09:55:59PM -0700 55, Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just installed and configured debian 2.2 and I am using mutt for
 a mailreader. Would someone please tell me the two commands I put in my
 .muttrc or .mailcap files that will execute electric eyes (ee) and lynx
 for image and html attachments. I've tried the commands in the mutt
 manual and I still keep coming up with windows of text. 
 here's what I've tried:
 text/html; lynx -dump %s ; copiousoutput
 image/*;  ee %s
 and
 image/*;ee %s   /dev/null
 and
  image/*;xv %s; test=RunningX; \
   edit=xpaint %s
 nothing seems to work..
 thanks
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Re: not quoting signatures on reply

2000-08-11 Thread David T-G

Tomasz --

...and then Caster said...
% Hello Mutt Users!
% On czw 10 sie 2000 07:35:56 GMT David T-G wrote:
% 
%  You can usually do this in your editor; if it were vim
% 
% What else can it be ;)

That's what I think, too, but the original requester is using (gasp) pico.


% 
%  for instance, you could say something like
%set editor="vim +/^$"
% 
% Thanks to you :) now I'm using:
% set editor="vim +/^$ +/^$ +nohlsearch"
% It places the cursor in the beginning of the second blank line and turns
% highlighting of search results to off.

Most excellent!  In fact, I'll go you one better (since this was, after
all, about cropping the quoted signature); I didn't realize that you
could chain +commands on the vim command line, but something like

  set editor="vim +/^' -- '$ +?^$ +nohlsearch"

should find the quoted (assuming you use _ for your quoting, unlike
me) sigdashes line, delete from there to the end of the paragraph,
and then go back to the first blank line.  I'd even bet that you could,
when faced with a correspondent like Ronny who uses no signature, press
'u' to undo the deletion if it goes bad!


% However not everyone is using vim, so such option inside mutt could be
% useful.

Nah; I still like finding a way to let your editor, perhaps with help
from other tools, do it for you.  Let mutt decide whether or not to
attach your signature and leave it at that.


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Line wrapping in internal pager

2000-08-11 Thread Markus Holmberg

Excuse me if this is in the docs, but I haven't found anything..

Is there a way to disable line wrapping in the internal mutt pager (so
that lines that are too long are just cut off)? (like ":set nowrap" in vim)

Thanks for any help..

Markus

(I'd appreciate if I got cc:ed since I'm not subscribed to the list..)

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Re: Build problem with 1.3.7 on Solaris

2000-08-11 Thread cgreen

I have checked this out thoroughly now and I'm convinced there is some
sort of problem building 1.3.7 (and 1.3.6) on Solaris.

N.B. the problem is when "Making all in imap" so it only occurs if you
configure with --enable-imap.


I have tried deleting the directory and re-extracting from the tarball
and doing just:-
./configure --prefix=/usr/chris --with-curses=/usr/chris --enable-pop --enable-imap

followed by 'make' and I still get the error:-

Making all in imap
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c auth.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c auth_anon.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c auth_login.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c browse.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c command.c
command.c: In function `imap_handle_untagged':
command.c:184: warning: subscript has type `char'
command.c: In function `cmd_parse_myrights':
command.c:326: warning: subscript has type `char'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/chris/include -I../intl  
-Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c imap.c
imap.c: In function `imap_open_mailbox':
imap.c:717: warning: subscript has type `char'
imap.c:721: warning: subscript has type `char'
imap.c: In function `imap_mailbox_check':
imap.c:1324: warning: subscript has type `char'
make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `../types.h'
Current working directory /usr/chris/mutt-1.3.7/imap
*** Error code 1


As I said versions 1.3.x up to 1.3.5 build OK and so does 1.2.5, so
the problem would seem to be in something that changed in the imap
directory between 1.3.5 and 1.3.6.

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IMAP with Exchange Server

2000-08-11 Thread Ray Crane


 I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i with IMAP support, in the unfortunate
 condition of needing to use MS Exchange as the IMAP server. 
 (Corporate email, really tired of Outlook) 

 Something somewhere is clearly buggy, to the point of just about 
 making it unuseable. I find that when I open a folder, everything 
 is fine. But, when new messages arrive, or even a $ refresh is done 
 sometimes, things get odd. For example, one new message will come in but 
 it gets listed twice. For example, I'll be able to read the new
 message(s) but the old messages will only have headers - no 
 bodies. 

 I know that Exchange isn't listed as a compatible IMAP server, 
 but on the other hand it doesn't say its specificaly not compatible.
 Is anyone out there successfuly using such a configuration? Are
 there some tweaks or patches I need to make? Do I need to request
 changes on the server end? Any help or advice is appreciated.
 I really don't want to go back to Outlook, and using something 
 like fetchmail really isn't a viable option. 
 
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Re: IMAP with Exchange Server

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Kennedy

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:28:29AM -0400, Ray Crane wrote:

  I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i with IMAP support, in the unfortunate
  condition of needing to use MS Exchange as the IMAP server. 
  (Corporate email, really tired of Outlook) 
  Something somewhere is clearly buggy, to the point of just about 
  making it unuseable. I find that when I open a folder, everything 
  is fine. But, when new messages arrive, or even a $ refresh is done 
  sometimes, things get odd. For example, one new message will come in but 
  it gets listed twice. For example, I'll be able to read the new
  message(s) but the old messages will only have headers - no 
  bodies. 

I use mutt and exchange on a daily basis (currently 1.2i).

It works fine, as long as I dont have outlook open too.

I would guess that IMAP bolts on to whatever exchange uses
internally and things dont quite sync exchange-IMAP that
well. If I modify something in mutt, Outlook notices the
changes, if the other way around, things go funny.

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Re: IMAP with Exchange Server

2000-08-11 Thread Brendan Cully

On Friday, 11 August 2000 at 09:28, Ray Crane wrote:
 
  I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i with IMAP support, in the unfortunate
  condition of needing to use MS Exchange as the IMAP server. 
  (Corporate email, really tired of Outlook) 
 
  Something somewhere is clearly buggy, to the point of just about 
  making it unuseable. I find that when I open a folder, everything 
  is fine. But, when new messages arrive, or even a $ refresh is done 
  sometimes, things get odd. For example, one new message will come in but 
  it gets listed twice. For example, I'll be able to read the new
  message(s) but the old messages will only have headers - no 
  bodies. 

There have been some very significant changes in the development
series. If things aren't working for you, maybe you'd like to try the
latest 1.3 version? I'm also much more interested in making 1.3 work
correctly than 1.2 (the code's so different, backporting isn't an
option).

So, if you do try 1.3.7 (currently the latest, I believe), let me know
if IMAP still isn't working.

Thanks,
Brendan

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Re: Blank messages in IMAP index

2000-08-11 Thread Brendan Cully

On Friday, 11 August 2000 at 03:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a strange problem when opening IMAP folders with mutt.  After
 having experimented with a number of different IMAP clients some of my
 IMAP folders when opened display an index like the one below:-
 
   1 Nov 15 vile-users-help (  92) vile-users response to "request" messa
   2   F May 04 (   0)





 If I open the messages they are perfectly OK and the subject etc. then
 appears in the index.  What's going on?

Known problem - happens especially with Courier. I hope this is from
the 1.2 series? I rewrote the index code in 1.3 so this shouldn't
happen (knock on wood).

oh, regarding your problems building 1.3.7 - I'm not sure exactly what
is going on, maybe Solaris' make has problems. But try:

configure --enable-foo --blahblahblah
make types.h
make

ie make types.h before make.

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Locale settings and LANG

2000-08-11 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff

When no LC_CTYPE or LANG variable is set, mutt displays special
characters like ë, é, £, correctly. But when LANG=C is set and LC_CTYPE
are unset, they are not.

This is a bit strange, because when LANG and LC_CTYPE are unset,
programs usually use the default locale settings, which should be equal
to those used when LANG=C.  Or am I missing something?

Wouter

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Re: not quoting signatures on reply

2000-08-11 Thread Stan Ryckman

Peter Palfrader wrote:
...
 but this should work for all editors (that support +lineno):
 
 set editor="vim +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\` %s"
 
 It is stolen from Roland Rosenfeld's [EMAIL PROTECTED] great
 muttrcs.

Or even better, use the builtin awk variable NR:
set editor="vim +\`awk '/^$/ {print NR+1; exit}' %s\` %s"

Cheers,
Stan



Re: imap folders index

2000-08-11 Thread Brendan Cully

On Monday, 07 August 2000 at 23:27, Bernhard Valenti wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
  Just use the documented "mailboxes" command:
  
  mailboxes {host}Mail/foo-list {host}Mail/bar-list
 
 i did that and added all my IMAP folders, when i press tab ( at the
 directory browser ) i can see all of them, but unfortunatly it doesnt
 display wether a folder has a new mail ( the docs say it should indicate
 new mails ) 

IMAP distinguishes between New and Unread mails. Just because you
haven't read some messages doesn't mean that folder has new mail. But
if mail arrives while you're using mutt you should get notified and
there should be an N (or two ?!) in the mailboxes browser.

  of course you can also use the standard folder shortcuts, eg:
  
  set folder={host}Mail
  mailboxes =foo-list =bar-list
 
 i have
 set folder = {10.0.0.55}INBOX
 but actually mutt still goes to the /var/mail/wedge spool when its

you need to set $spoolfile.

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Re: Build problem with 1.3.7 on Solaris

2000-08-11 Thread David Champion

On 2000.08.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have checked this out thoroughly now and I'm convinced there is some
 sort of problem building 1.3.7 (and 1.3.6) on Solaris.
 ...
 make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `../types.h'
 Current working directory /usr/chris/mutt-1.3.7/imap
 *** Error code 1

This is exactly the same problem as the older keymap_defs.h problem,
just a different file.  The mechanics for dealing with these depends
seem to depend on weird properties of GNU make.  You can either make
types.h first (I suppose; I haven't tried it) or use GNU make.

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duplicate addresses

2000-08-11 Thread Michael Soulier

Ok, I finally learned the "alternate" setting, and now the "unset metoo"
works beautifully. However, everyone else here at Nortel has the same
situation, where sometimes their domain is "nortelnetworks.com", and sometimes
it's something else. Is there a way that I can tell mutt about this, so that
when I reply, their addresses aren't repeated? I know they're not repeated in
the literal sense, but they end up receiving the message twice. 

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