Re: Mutt on AFS

2000-12-20 Thread David Petrou

 % I can read files of my old saved mail just fine, but I can't edit
 % them.  Mutt reports that the folders are read-only.  I have AFS tokens
 % and I'm able to read and write those files at the command-line.  I'm
 % not sure why Mutt doesn't think it can also.
 
 mutt doesn't do any locking, but hands that off to mutt_dotlock.  Try
 
   mutt_dotlock -t /afs/some/mail/file

I tried that and that worked fine:

 mutt_dotlock -t /afs/cs/user/dpetrou/huy 


The file /afs/cs/user/dpetrou/huy is a mail folder I put on AFS.
mutt_dotlock returned nothing.

any ideas?

 % Another problem: I tried to save an e-mail message to a folder in AFS
 % and mutt complained that it was unable to lock the folder file.
 
 Yep; that sounds like the same thing.

 % So has anyone out there had better luck running over AFS?
 
 HTH  HH

I take it these are famous mutt people.  What are their names / e-mail
addresses?

 :-D
 -- 
 David T-G   * It's easier to fight for one's principles

Thanks,
David

P.S.: I'm not subscribed to the mutt list, so people respond to me as
well as to the list.  David T-G's mail is the only one I received --
I'm unsure if anyone else responded but forgot to cc: me.



next-unread in all monitored mailboxes.

2000-12-20 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Is it possible to bind \t (or whatever) so that next-unread will also
jump to the next mailbox (as specified by the mailboxes option) that
has unread mail?

At present my mutt (1.3.12i) seems only to jump to the next unread in
the currently open mailbox, and "c" will default to change to the next
mailbox that has unread mail -- I'd prefer it to do that with the tab
key if possible.

I'm sure it's in here somewhere, just can find it

Thanks,
Scott




Re: Mutt on AFS

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David Petrou proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

David T-G wrote:

  % So has anyone out there had better luck running over AFS?
 
  HTH  HH
 
 I take it these are famous mutt people.  What are their names / e-mail
 addresses?
 
 Hehehe ... they are famous mailing list people.  Their names are "Hope This
 Helps" and (?)

--suresh

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Re: Mutt on AFS

2000-12-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan K V

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:48:13PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

 David Petrou proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
 
 David T-G wrote:
 
   % So has anyone out there had better luck running over AFS?
  
   HTH  HH
  
  I take it these are famous mutt people.  What are their names / e-mail
  addresses?
  
  Hehehe ... they are famous mailing list people.  Their names are "Hope This
  Helps" and (?)

Happy [to] Help? Or, Holding Hands? :-)

It's here: http://www.solscape.com/chat/acronyms.html

But I didn't find it here:

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=HH
http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/facts/acronyms.html


Sankar

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Re: feature-request: delayed resubmission, follow-up

2000-12-20 Thread Heinrich Langos

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 03:22:58PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Heinrich --
 
 ...and then Heinrich Langos said...
 % hi
 % 
 % often i get mails that i would like to be reminded of later.
 % like i get a mail from my girlfriend in the morning that i should
 % fetch something on the way home in the evening. 
 % but in the evening that mail has been scrolled way off the screen
 % and is lost between tons of more or less important stuff.
 
 It sounds like you aren't using threading or other particularly
 interesting methods of sorting your mail, so you could just do what I do
 when pressed by a bunch of junk: go back every once in a while, tag the
 messages containing your reminders, and tag-save them to the current
 mailbox.  If you're looking at the box in unsorted mode, they are dropped
 to the bottom and are right under your nose.

well ... i do use threading, i sort out list traffic in seperate mailboxes,
i clean up my inbox every once in a while, i set save_name to keep track 
of ongoing threads both ways ... and so on ...

but i get up to a hundred mails a day. and the main point i was trying
to make was that i don't want to be reminded of a mail all the time
because it is so special but i want to get my reminders just in time.

 If you're going to do this sort of thing, then a reminder folder would
 be a good way to go.  You could also use the X-Label: header to write
 yourself a note (or even any string like "rem") and then very simply
 limit to that string later.

yeap a reminder folder will be the way to go. so that i can get that
mails out of my incoming folder. but still can access it if i need to.

could mutt ask me for input while running a macro ?
like this:
i press my remind-key and mutt askes me for input (e.g. the time i
want to be reminded of that message) and then pipes the mail to an
external programm putting the input that i gave it in the X-Label
header or on the command line for my external programm?

that external programm would do this:
1) save the mail to my reminder folder.
2) extract the subject and time from the header or the commandline and
   set up
   a) a reminder line for rclock (saying something like "RM: subject")
  or an 'at' job that will pop up an xmessage with the same content.
   or
   b) some 'at' job that will start something that will bounce the
  mail to me again at that time so that it pops up in my inbox 
  again (it is sorted by thread and received time). triggering 
  rclock, xbiff or whatever i use to monitor the inbox.
   or

   c) do nothing and leave the reminding and bouncing to a cron job
  that scans the reminder folder once every 10 minutes for work 
  to do.

writing that external programms is no problem .. probably perl ... the
only thing i would have to think about is locking that file so if i
should bounce the mail to myself i can delete it without interfereing
with myself writing another reminder to that folder at the same time. :)

so the question that remains is: how do i prompt a user in mutt
for input and use that input in the macro?

best regards
-heinrich

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Attachments + color

2000-12-20 Thread Fredrik Jagenheim

Hi, I have a little problem with mutt colors.

For some reason my attachements are shown in black on black and I
cannot figure out which color parameter dictates that.

This is the list I get when I press 'v' to view attachements I'm
talking about.

Thanks in advance.

//Fredde




Re: feature-request: delayed resubmission, follow-up

2000-12-20 Thread Conor Daly

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:16:58PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Heinrich Langos thought:
 
 so the question that remains is: how do i prompt a user in mutt
 for input and use that input in the macro?
 
Best I've done is to use xmessage and get the return from the buttons
pressed but that only allows pre-defined answers which won't work here.
Perhaps a little TCL/TK app to ask for typed input or a set of buttons to
create the time from eg.  0h 1h 2h ...  00m 05m 10m 15m ...

Pass it on if you do eh? I could use something like that at a later date.
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Re: address book

2000-12-20 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:12:56PM -0600, Larry wrote:
 
 I have looked all through the docs and haven't found
 anything that pertains to this. Maybe I'm looking for
 the wrong description or something.
aliases are one thing.

I prefer using an external query script I made with Perl. Using this script
is more comfortable and I can search for full names and even on comments
I save to every address... so I am not forced to memory any alias name ...

If anyone is interested in this little thing I made ... simply ask ...

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mutt postfix

2000-12-20 Thread geoffrey

Hi everyone. I have a question, and I am not certain where the trouble
actually lies: with my build of mutt, or postfix. The scenario is as
follows:

mutt v1.2.5i
postfix "snapshot-20001212"

The problem is that I cannot get mutt to hand off mail to postfix for
delivery. When I attempt to send email, mutt stops with the message:

"Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.)."

How do I correct this? I compiled both mutt and postfix myself, and they
live on a box that I built from sources. Thus I have no rpm installed as
of yet. When I looked over the mutt Makefile I noticed the line:

SENDMAIL = no

How should this be amended to indicate that I use postfix as my mta? I
know that postfix is working properly since I am able to send email by
hand. Thanks for any, and all, help.

geoffrey
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Re: feature-request: delayed resubmission, follow-up

2000-12-20 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:16:58PM +0100, Heinrich Langos wrote:

 could mutt ask me for input while running a macro ?
 like this:
 i press my remind-key and mutt askes me for input (e.g. the time i
 want to be reminded of that message) and then pipes the mail to an
 external programm putting the input that i gave it in the X-Label
 header or on the command line for my external programm?

 so the question that remains is: how do i prompt a user in mutt
 for input and use that input in the macro?

Here's one way.

macro index Escr pipe-messageremind_scriptReturn
macro pager Escr pipe-messageremind_scriptReturn

where remind_script is something like this:

echo "Enter time for reminder:"
read time  /dev/tty
subject=$(sed -n '/^Subject: /s/^[^:]*: //p')
echo "mutt -s \"Reminder: $subject\"" your_address | at $time

Note that 'mutt' is executed at the time specified and in the
environment of 'at' and therefore the message body is no longer
available (besides being consumed by 'sed' in this example).  I'm sure
that's solvable, too, but I'll leave that to you.

Gary

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Re: Trying to wrap my messages at 72 characters

2000-12-20 Thread Marco van Lienen

I use: set editor="vim -u ~/.vimrc-mutt" (from my .muttrc).
And .vimrc-mutt contains: 
set tw=78
set wrap

just change tw to value 72.

Marco.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:13:19AM -0600,([-30]5908.27) Bryan Walton said the 
following stuff:
 On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:29:47PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
  On 2000.12.14, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  "Bryan Walton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   vi understands the wl.  However, when I begin to compose a message in
   mutt, the addition of this "wrap command" has the effect of positioning 
   my cursor at the bottom of my signature, and not at the top of the
   screen.  Is there something I can tell Mutt to make my cursor begin at
   the very top of the message that I am composing?
  
  Create or modify the file ".exrc" in your home directory.  Add a line reading:
  
  set wl=72
  
  (The leading tab is just for distinction here; don't put it in the file.)
  
 
 Thank you to everyone who offered ideas.  David, thanks a bunch.  Your
 idea of the .exrc file fixed my problem.  I created that file and then
 removed the line from my .muttrc
 
 Thanks,
 Bryan Walton

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Re: mutt postfix

2000-12-20 Thread Lars Hecking


 [Please don't sign list email, or upload your key to one of the public
  keyservers. Thank you.]

geoffrey writes:
[..]
 The problem is that I cannot get mutt to hand off mail to postfix for
 delivery. When I attempt to send email, mutt stops with the message:
 
 "Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.)."
 
 How do I correct this? I compiled both mutt and postfix myself, and they
 live on a box that I built from sources. Thus I have no rpm installed as
 of yet. When I looked over the mutt Makefile I noticed the line:
 
 SENDMAIL = no
 
 How should this be amended to indicate that I use postfix as my mta? I
 know that postfix is working properly since I am able to send email by
 hand. Thanks for any, and all, help.

 Where is postfix installed? In particular, where does the sendmail
 compatibility wrapper live? mutt's configure should have found it
 in any standard location (/usr/lib, /usr/sbin etc.).




Re: address book

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Christian Ordig proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 I prefer using an external query script I made with Perl. Using this script
 is more comfortable and I can search for full names and even on comments
 I save to every address... so I am not forced to memory any alias name ...
 If anyone is interested in this little thing I made ... simply ask ...
 
 please post it / put it up on your webpage and post a link ;)

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Re: mutt postfix

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

geoffrey proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 The problem is that I cannot get mutt to hand off mail to postfix for
 delivery. When I attempt to send email, mutt stops with the message:
 "Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.)."
 
 Is postfix running at all?  Is mutt pointing to the right path?  (postfix
 plugs neatly into sendmail - and /usr/sbin/sendmail will work well)
 
 login as root on your box and give a 

 # postfix start

 then try again
 
 of yet. When I looked over the mutt Makefile I noticed the line:
 
 SENDMAIL = no
 
 SENDMAIL = @SENDMAIL@ is what my makefile says.

 Did you install postfix _after_ you installed mutt, by any chance? Try
 recompiling mutt now, it should work.

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Re: where to readup on locale/NLS?

2000-12-20 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:15:47PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote:
 Unless we know your OS version and the country/locale/language that you
 wish to send to/in, we don't really know the correct locale for you.

OK:
I work on Linux 2.2.*.  Most of the time I want to send to/in Canada/english
(or US/english, I don't think there's much difference here; but I live in
Canada, so might as well reflect that).  Occasionally, I want to send/recieve
Poland/polish, but I'd like my application text (i.e., mutt's menus, etc) to
stay in english.

I figured that with "en_CA.iso-8859-2" I would lie to mutt saying that even
the polish email is still in english, but asking it to display it using
iso-8859-2, which would give me the right charset.

 Some stuff I wrote for intros:
 http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/l10n.html
 http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu
 
 You can also check out the M17N stuff at www.mozilla.org
 http://www.mozilla.org/docs/refList/i18n/
 
 Then here is a somewhat comprehensive guide at :
 http://cns-web.bu.edu/pub/djohnson/web_files/i18n/i18n.html

Ah, thanks, very good stuff!

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Re: mutt postfix

2000-12-20 Thread Lutz Jaenicke

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:10:55AM -0600, geoffrey wrote:
 Hi everyone. I have a question, and I am not certain where the trouble
 actually lies: with my build of mutt, or postfix. The scenario is as
 follows:
 
 mutt v1.2.5i
 postfix "snapshot-20001212"
 
 The problem is that I cannot get mutt to hand off mail to postfix for
 delivery. When I attempt to send email, mutt stops with the message:
 
 "Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.)."

This means that the child process (should actually be the "sendmail"
executable of the postfix package) shut down with an error.
If the "sendmail" executable of postfix was actually reached, postfix
should have logged an error message in your mail.log file (location and
filename depending on your OS).

Best regards,
Lutz
PS. If this email reaches you, you actually know that mutt-1.2.5 and postfix
snapshot-20001217 really work together :-)
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help

2000-12-20 Thread George Quaweay

Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
Im user Mutt for my email editor.
I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
what do you recommend ?



thank you




Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay wrote:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

Welcome!  I think you'll really enjoy using mutt, and Linux, too.

To start with, mutt is a mailer, otherwise known as a mail user agent
(MUA) or an e-mail client.  It is not an editor.  That distinction
sometimes confuses people at first.  To learn about mutt,

-  Read the manual.
-  Use the help screens.
-  Follow this list.
-  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
-  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.

The web site has links to a number of resources that might be helpful,
especially:

-  Articles in the press
-  Mutt FAQ
-  Sample configuration files

Reading the manual is good, but it's difficult to absorb everything in
it.  It can also be difficult to distinguish the important, often-used
features from the more esoteric ones, and the _implications_ of various
features are not always obvious, at least to me.  I've learned the most
from reading this list, trying out features that are discussed here,
then reading the relevant parts of the manual to find out more.

Regards,
Gary

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 | Spokane, Washington, USA



Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Luke Ravitch

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay wrote:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

RTFM ;-)

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/

Seriously, though, if you want to learn _as much as possible_, this is
the way to go.  In addition to reading the manual, of course, you
should play around with the program.  Then, if you get stuck on
something that you can't find in the manual, pop a question to the
list.

-- 
Luke



Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Norbert Lieckfeldt

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, George Quaweay wrote:

 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

open a terminal and type 'man mutt' [without the quotation marks], or go
to www.mutt.org for a good start.

N.
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Re: address book

2000-12-20 Thread Christian Ordig

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:59:58PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 Christian Ordig proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
 
  I prefer using an external query script I made with Perl. Using this script
  is more comfortable and I can search for full names and even on comments
  I save to every address... so I am not forced to memory any alias name ...
  If anyone is interested in this little thing I made ... simply ask ...
  
  please post it / put it up on your webpage and post a link ;)
I didn't know there's such a high demand ... I already got quite a
lot of mails asking for this thing ...

I'll clean up the code a little so it's possible for guys not knowing
perl to install and use it...

I think it'll be online later this evening...

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maildir folder-hook

2000-12-20 Thread Marco Ahrendt

hi all,

after I changed to maildir my folder-hooks doesn´t seem to work. how I
have to change my muttrc to let them work ?

thx Marco

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[announce] isync 0.1 released - imap to maildir synchronizer

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Elkins

This may be of some interest to those of you intersted in using IMAP in
disconnected mode.  I hacked together a little command line tool to
synchronize a local maildir mailbox with a remote IMAP mailbox.  This is the
first release, so don't expect it to be bullet-proof.  :-)

PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOWUP TO THIS LIST.

You can find info here:  http://www.sigpipe.org/isync/

me



Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Douglas L . Potts

Quoting Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[--- Original request snipped ---]
 
 To start with, mutt is a mailer, otherwise known as a mail user agent
 (MUA) or an e-mail client.  It is not an editor.  That distinction
 sometimes confuses people at first.  To learn about mutt,
 
 -  Read the manual.
 -  Use the help screens.
 -  Follow this list.
 -  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
 -  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.
 
 The web site has links to a number of resources that might be helpful,
 especially:
 
 -  Articles in the press
 -  Mutt FAQ
 -  Sample configuration files
 
 Reading the manual is good, but it's difficult to absorb everything in
 it.  It can also be difficult to distinguish the important, often-used
 features from the more esoteric ones, and the _implications_ of various
 features are not always obvious, at least to me.  I've learned the most
 from reading this list, trying out features that are discussed here,
 then reading the relevant parts of the manual to find out more.
Well said!  It is all to easy to tell people to RTFM, and so forth
(which is by all means correct, but not the whole picture), but you've
definitely given a good combination of references.

-Doug

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Re: maildir folder-hook

2000-12-20 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:01:59PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:

 after I changed to maildir my folder-hooks doesn´t seem to work. how I
 have to change my muttrc to let them work ?

It's hard to say without having more information.  It would help if we
could see your folder-hooks and if you could tell us what you think they
should do and what they seem to do instead.

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Re: feature-request: delayed resubmission, follow-up

2000-12-20 Thread David T-G

Heinrich --

...and then Heinrich Langos said...
% On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 03:22:58PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%  ...and then Heinrich Langos said...
%  % 
%  % often i get mails that i would like to be reminded of later.
...
%  % and is lost between tons of more or less important stuff.
%  
%  It sounds like you aren't using threading or other particularly
...
% 
% well ... i do use threading, i sort out list traffic in seperate mailboxes,
% i clean up my inbox every once in a while, i set save_name to keep track 
% of ongoing threads both ways ... and so on ...

Good enough.


% 
% but i get up to a hundred mails a day. and the main point i was trying
% to make was that i don't want to be reminded of a mail all the time
% because it is so special but i want to get my reminders just in time.

Ah; gotcha.


% 
%  If you're going to do this sort of thing, then a reminder folder would
%  be a good way to go.  You could also use the X-Label: header to write
%  yourself a note (or even any string like "rem") and then very simply
%  limit to that string later.
% 
% yeap a reminder folder will be the way to go. so that i can get that
% mails out of my incoming folder. but still can access it if i need to.

Sounds like it.


% 
% could mutt ask me for input while running a macro ?

mutt's macro language can't, but your external script can.


% like this:
% i press my remind-key and mutt askes me for input (e.g. the time i
% want to be reminded of that message) and then pipes the mail to an
% external programm putting the input that i gave it in the X-Label
% header or on the command line for my external programm?

I'd figure your program would ask for the time (unless it saw it on the
command line, of course) and then do the work.


% 
% that external programm would do this:
...
% 
% writing that external programms is no problem .. probably perl ... the
% only thing i would have to think about is locking that file so if i
% should bounce the mail to myself i can delete it without interfereing
% with myself writing another reminder to that folder at the same time. :)

Well, you could always mutt_dotlock to lock it :-)


% 
% so the question that remains is: how do i prompt a user in mutt
% for input and use that input in the macro?

It seems that the answer is that "you don't" :-)


% 
% best regards
% -heinrich
% 
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% |o| It's absolutely not. It's the stupidest reason to buy a new |o|
% |o| version I ever heard. -- Bill Gates,  Microsoft Corporation |o|
%  ~


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Re: maildir folder-hook

2000-12-20 Thread Douglas L . Potts

Quoting Marco Ahrendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hi all,
 
 after I changed to maildir my folder-hooks doesn´t seem to work. how I
 have to change my muttrc to let them work ?
Folder hooks usually have some indication of directory path, either an
actual path like /my_home/different/mail, or through the use of '='
which uses $MAIL I believe.  So check your .muttrc for your folder hooks
and see if you need to revise them for your new directories.

-Doug

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Re: Filtering through a lot of levels

2000-12-20 Thread Kai Weber

+ Dirk Pirschel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  [Mail filtering]
  Any idea how to solve it cleverly?
 
 maildrop: http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/
 procmail: http://www.procmail.org/

Aerm, yes. The sentence should be "Any idea how to solve it cleverly
with procmail?"

Kai.
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folder-hook pattern matching

2000-12-20 Thread Eugene Lee

If I had the following mailboxes that all start with the letter 'b':

~/Mail/bob
~/Mail/bobby
~/Mail/info/bricks
~/Mail/network/tools/bing

Is it possible to make a single folder-hook pattern that matches all of
these mailboxes?


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Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay muttered:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

Hmmm, since he wouldn't know what he was getting into :-), this guy would
make an excellent volunteer to the Mutt Newbie Manual, or as much of it as
exists so far. Anyone care to inflict it upon him?

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Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Lance Simmons

Now that I've switched completely to Mutt, I've noticed that my xterm
doesn't refresh for each screen, and I'm often left with stray
characters from the previous screenful.

Is this Mutt-related? If so, is there something I need to do to Mutt?

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Re: address book

2000-12-20 Thread Christian Ordig

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:59:58PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 Christian Ordig proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

  I prefer using an external query script I made with Perl. Using this script
  is more comfortable and I can search for full names and even on comments
  I save to every address... so I am not forced to memory any alias name ...
  If anyone is interested in this little thing I made ... simply ask ...
  
  please post it / put it up on your webpage and post a link ;)
ok here we go ...

I recognized it is only about 1kBytes ... so I'll post it here.

Install:


It's only a quick and dirty hack I did some Sunday afternoon ... so 
please don't blame me for any damages or datalosses ... or exploding
cats or whatever.

I am using an extra account for eMailing, so these scripts are simply
in ~/ on my system. You might want to install them in ~/bin or something
like that. But be careful when doing so: pathes are still hardcoded
(but it shouldn't be a problem in a 500bytes script, should it? ;_)

1. simply copy the attached perl scripts to your home directory and make
   them executable.

2. the address database file will also reside in ~/ and is called "addresses"
   by default.
   It has the following format:
   
   Full Name;[EMAIL PROTECTED];comment1 comment2 comment3
   
   one line per record and table columns delimited by ";"

3. there will be a file called ~/addresses.added which holds newly added
   addresses (they can simply be appended to the main database using
   cat ~/addresses.added  ~/addresses;rm ~/addresses.added
   this file is created by mutt_add.pl - which is called by pressing "a"
   in the index or pager view. (look at my .muttrc parts below) and adds
   the eMail address under the cursor to the address database.
   mutt_add.pl needs a temporary file ~/msg.txt ! If this file exists it'll
   be deleted !
   The brave of you can also add the new addresses directly to ~/adresses
   simply change the filename in ~/mutt_add.pl accordingly...

4. change your .muttrc:
    SNIP 
   macro index "a" "\eC~/msg.txt\n\n!~/mutt_add.pl\n"
   macro pager "a" "\eC~/msg.txt\n\n!~/mutt_add.pl\n"  
   set query_command = "~/mutt_query.pl '%s'"
    SNAP 
   
   this will allow:
   - searching thru the addressbook using "Q"
   - email address completation using ^T
   - adding new eMail addresses with comments to the addressbook 
 using "a" (Full name and eMail address are seperated automaticly.
 you'll be presented with the result and will be asked for comments.)
   - "Q" and ^T search the whole record for matching strings ... so you can
 also search for comments
   - to list the whole address book use Q or ^T without query string.

5. There's no tool for editing the address book, yet. But vi should do it...

I am using those scripts with mutt 1.1.11i

Any hints are welcome. You may also ask if you have any problems 
using these scripts.

Hope to help making everyday's live a little easier ... 

I am using this script with about 200 addresses and it's nicer then
aliases ever could be ,-))

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Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:14:39PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
 Now that I've switched completely to Mutt, I've noticed that my xterm
 doesn't refresh for each screen, and I'm often left with stray
 characters from the previous screenful.
 
 Is this Mutt-related? If so, is there something I need to do to Mutt?

probably Mutt (stray whole-characters are usually an application problem,
perhaps from running external programs, fragments of characters would be either
xterm or the X server).

I would prove this to myself by running Mutt in 'script' and examining the
resulting 'typescript' file.

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Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Lance Simmons

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:35:25PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
 
 probably Mutt (stray whole-characters are usually an application problem,
 perhaps from running external programs, fragments of characters would be either
 xterm or the X server).
  
 I would prove this to myself by running Mutt in 'script' and examining the
 resulting 'typescript' file.

I don't understand this suggestion. I don't see the word "script" used
in the Mutt manual in a way that seems relevant, or in the xterm
documentation. Could you elaborate?

Lance Simmons



Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread David Champion

On 2000.12.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Lance Simmons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I don't understand this suggestion. I don't see the word "script" used
 in the Mutt manual in a way that seems relevant, or in the xterm
 documentation. Could you elaborate?

The "script" program initiates a new shell which logs all character
terminal events (i.e., characters) to a file.  If you enter
shell prompt% script

You should get a new shell prompt with a different history number.  Run
mutt in there.
tcsh% mutt

Then exit mutt after damage is done, and exit the secondary shell.
"Script" will tell you the session was logged to a file called
"typescript".

You can replay this session using cat, more, less, etc.

Thomas is saying that application errors of the variety you describe
should reveal themselves in the typescript, as well as while initially
running the application.  Environmental (X, terminal emulator program,
etc.) errors will not, because the typescript file is a log only of the
shell and the mutt session.

-- 
 -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago



Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:19:42PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:35:25PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
  
  probably Mutt (stray whole-characters are usually an application problem,
  perhaps from running external programs, fragments of characters would be either
  xterm or the X server).
   
  I would prove this to myself by running Mutt in 'script' and examining the
  resulting 'typescript' file.
 
 I don't understand this suggestion. I don't see the word "script" used
 in the Mutt manual in a way that seems relevant, or in the xterm
 documentation. Could you elaborate?

'script' is a Unix utility, which you probably have on your system:


SCRIPT(1)UNIX Reference Manual   SCRIPT(1)

NAME
 script - make typescript of terminal session

SYNOPSIS
 script [-a] [file]

DESCRIPTION
 Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal.  It is
 useful for students who need a hardcopy record of an interactive session
 as proof of an assignment, as the typescript file can be printed out lat-
 er with lpr(1).

 If the argument file is given, script saves all dialogue in file. If no
 file name is given, the typescript is saved in the file typescript.

 Option:

 -a  Append the output to file or typescript, retaining the prior con-
 tents.

 The script ends when the forked shell exits (a control-D to exit the
 Bourne shell (sh(1)),  and exit, logout or control-d (if ignoreeof is not
 set) for the C-shell, csh(1)).

 Certain interactive commands, such as vi(1),  create garbage in the type-
 script file.  Script works best with commands that do not manipulate the
 screen, the results are meant to emulate a hardcopy terminal.

ENVIRONMENT
 The following environment variable is utilized by script:

 SHELL  If the variable SHELL exists, the shell forked by script will be
that shell. If SHELL is not set, the Bourne shell is assumed.
(Most shells set this variable automatically).

SEE ALSO
 csh(1) (for the history mechanism).

HISTORY
 The script command appeared in 3.0BSD.

BUGS
 Script places everything in the log file, including linefeeds and
 backspaces.  This is not what the naive user expects.

4th Berkeley DistributionJuly 27, 1991   1

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Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:30:41PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
 
 You can replay this session using cat, more, less, etc.
 
 Thomas is saying that application errors of the variety you describe
 should reveal themselves in the typescript, as well as while initially
 running the application.  Environmental (X, terminal emulator program,
 etc.) errors will not, because the typescript file is a log only of the
 shell and the mutt session.

right - though of course it's possible that there is an error in the
terminal emulator program (so reading the typescript carefully is needed
in addition to replaying).

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Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Akkana

David Champion writes:
 Thomas is saying that application errors of the variety you describe
 should reveal themselves in the typescript, as well as while initially
 running the application.  

Has the original poster tried several different terminal programs? 
I've seen refresh problems with most of the linux terminal clients
(leaving droppings on the screen after running curses programs);
I've finally settled on rxvt, and almost never have problems with
mutt leaving cruft on the rxvt screen.  My money would be on the
terminal program, not on mutt, as the source of the problem, unless
you try several different terminal emulators and see the same
problem on all of them.

...Akkana



Mutt and PGP/MIME - problem with other MUA

2000-12-20 Thread Gary

Hi Mutt men (and women),

I have a friend who I have been running tests with on PGP/MIME compliance
with his Eudora v5.0.2.  He recieved my encrypted MIME email and his Eudora
was able to decrypt it without problems.  I am using GnuPG with my Mutt
v1.2.5i.  

Next I sent him an encrypted and signed email with an attachment. Of course
both the email and attachment are automatically encrypted.   He could not
read the attachment.  According to him, they came up as *.ems attachment
along with the main message which Eudora could not read (the attachment).
It was a gif attachment.  He says that Eudora swears that it is fully
RFC2015 compliant.

Any thoughts 

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Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Gary Johnson proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 -  Read the manual.
 -  Use the help screens.
 -  Follow this list.
 -  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
 -  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.
 
 Plus, the mutt-newbie faq at http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net
 There isn't much there - so contributions (howtos and such) are welcome.
 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
QOTD:
"What women and psychologists call `dropping your armor', we call
"baring your neck."



Re: help

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 Hmmm, since he wouldn't know what he was getting into :-), this guy would
 make an excellent volunteer to the Mutt Newbie Manual, or as much of it as
^
 exists so far. Anyone care to inflict it upon him?
 
 s/volunteer/guinea\ pig/ ;)
 It's at http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net ...
 
--suresh

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QOTD:
"What women and psychologists call `dropping your armor', we call
"baring your neck."



Re: Filtering through a lot of levels

2000-12-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Kai Weber proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 Aerm, yes. The sentence should be "Any idea how to solve it cleverly
 with procmail?"
 
 The procmail faq can be found at http://www.iki.fi/era/procmail/

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mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
QOTD:
"What women and psychologists call `dropping your armor', we call
"baring your neck."



Re: Why doesn't xterm refresh?

2000-12-20 Thread Lance Simmons

Thanks for the suggestions. I've tried xterm, rxvt and gnome-terminal,
and am able to reproduce the same problem when paging through the same
emails. Often, when a line from the previous screenful was longer than
the line from the current screen, the characters at the end of the line
remain. It's like the terminal isn't refreshing for each screenful. I
was hoping one of the terminals I have wouldn't have this problem, but
no such luck.

I've used script, but have to admit I don't have a clue what to make of
the output.

Has anyone had this problem and solved it satisfactorily?


On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:17:21PM -0800, Akkana wrote:

 Has the original poster tried several different terminal programs?

Lance Simmons



Re: maildir folder-hook

2000-12-20 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:01:59PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
 after I changed to maildir my folder-hooks doesn´t seem to work. how I
 have to change my muttrc to let them work ?
 
The folder hooks work with maildir format without any problem. From my
.muttrc

folder-hook +Maillist/Mutt 'set signature="~/.mutt/sig_ml"'

HTH
Frank

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