Re: Newbie question

2001-07-19 Thread Fox Mulder

* Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11:38 19/07/01]:
 Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 19/07/01 10:17 +0530: 
  i am pasting the output of mutt -v. it does list a -BUFFY-SIZE. I am not too
  sure what the '-' sign means. does this mean that this this was an option, or
  does it mean that it wasnt an option?
  
 + = used.  - = not used.

thanks for that. i recompiled mutt with the --enable-buffy-size option. now i
get the 'N' in fron of the folder that has new messages after i start using
mutt -y. however, i still dont get the 'Inc' field in the status bar.

ankit mohan



Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Wed, 18. Jul 2001 um 06:30:06PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
   In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
   following line in ~/.Xdefaults
   
   *customization: -color
   
   This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.

I did this, but it's not enough.
Yes, ls --color does work then but mutt still opens black/white.

 However I'm pretty sure that color ls in freebsd only works with xterm-color
 (as far as the various xterm termcaps go).

Well, I'm sorry, but I am this person and I don't use freebsd, but
linux.

I now temporarily solved the problem by changing the TERM-variable
within my .bashrc. But I don't like to do it that way, so maybe later
I'll find a better solution.

André.



Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-19 Thread Luke Ross

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:50:19AM -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote:
 
 Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next  
 release?  If no, what do I have to do so that it will be removed? 

As I touched upon before, I'll be unhappy if it breaks my bash new mail
notification.  Trouble is the bash man page didnt say how it decided if
there was new mail.  I don't see what the big issue is - sure it didn't
work for you, but it doesn't seem to have upset many other people here.

Regards,

Luke



How change trash file

2001-07-19 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert

Hi,

I didn't find how to change the default folder for the trash !

How can I display mail in Outbox sorting by destination ?

Could you help me ? 

Thanks !
-- 
Jean-Michel Kelbert



Re: About emacs, about quoting text, about writing message.

2001-07-19 Thread Jens Paulus

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:45:49AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
 Why not reply to that person?  Don't you want the r mark on the 
 index, or do you just want to start a new thread?  In the latter 

I'd say both. I want to create a totally new message with no relation to
the chosen one.

 case, you can set the edit_hdrs variable and remove the In-Reply-To 
 header when editing.  This will have the effect of removing 
 References, too.

Okay. And what is with the r mark, do I have to remove it manually by
hitting 'W' in the index?

-Jens





Setting xterm title according to mbox name

2001-07-19 Thread Gregor Hoffleit

Vim sets the xterm title bar according to the name of the edited file.
I tried to find a solution to the something similar with mutt, but
couldn't find anything yet.

few control codes to stdout:

echo -ne \033]2;MUTT - $MBOX\007 12

I started with a folder-hook . source ~/bin/mutt-xtitle where
mutt-xtitle was a shell script with a command like the one above. That
somehow worked, but I haven't found any way to detect the name of the
mbox that's currently opened, and to pass this name to the shell script.

Any ideas ?

Please cc to me, since I'm not subscribed to mutt-users.


Thanks,

Gregor



Problem with mutt 1.2.5 and filesystem noatime???

2001-07-19 Thread Matteo


Hi,



I'm using mutt 1.2.5 on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE box.

Today I've mounted /var partition with options noatime.
I rebooted, but later mutt doesn't work. Each time that
I exit from a Mailbox and press TAB+TAB to check for new messages,
mutt notifies that there are new messages in mailboxes that 
I've check before. Then I enter in one of this mailboxes, but
there aren't new mex. 
I've remounted /var without noatime and mutt works fine...

Any idea??


Sorry  if my English is very poor...






Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Morten Liebach

On 18, Jul, 2001 at 11:03:01AM +0200, Andre Wyrwa wrote:
 
 How can I tell xterm to use xterm-color instead of xterm terminfo
 without having to set $TERM manually?

In your ~/.Xdefaults put this (from my own ~/.Xdefaults, tweaking might
be needed:

! $HOME/.Xdefaults
!
! To reload it:
!
!   xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults

! mangling xterm
XTerm*termName: xterm-color this is where you set $TERM !!
XTerm.VT100*color0: black
XTerm.VT100*color1: red
XTerm.VT100*color2: green
XTerm.VT100*color3: yellow
XTerm.VT100*color4: blue
XTerm.VT100*color5: magenta
XTerm.VT100*color6: cyan
XTerm.VT100*color7: white
XTerm.VT100*color8: black
XTerm.VT100*color9: red
XTerm.VT100*color10: green
XTerm.VT100*color11: yellow
XTerm.VT100*color12: blue
XTerm.VT100*color13: magenta
XTerm.VT100*color14: cyan
XTerm.VT100*color15: white
XTerm.VT100*colorAttrMode: true
XTerm.VT100*colorMode: on
XTerm.VT100*colorBDMode: on
XTerm.VT100*colorBD: white
XTerm.VT100*colorBLMode: on
XTerm.VT100*colorBL: yellow
XTerm.VT100*colorRVMode: on
XTerm.VT100*colorRV: cyan
XTerm.VT100*colorULMode: on
XTerm.VT100*colorUL: cyan
XTerm.VT100*boldFont:  -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*highlightColor: blue4
XTerm.VT100*geometry: 80x25
XTerm.VT100*pointerColor: white
XTerm.VT100*pointerColorBackground: black
XTerm.VT100*pointerShape: xterm
XTerm.VT100*curses: true
XTerm.VT100*saveLines: 1500
XTerm.VT100*underLine: off
XTerm.VT100*cursorColor: magenta
XTerm.VT100*cursorBlink: on
XTerm.VT100*cursorOffTime: 500
XTerm.VT100*cursorOnTime: 500
XTerm.VT100*font: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font1: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-70-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font2: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-80-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font3: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-90-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font4: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font5: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*font6: -jmk-neep-bold-r-normal-*-*-160-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1
XTerm.VT100*foreground: lightgrey
XTerm.VT100*background: black
XTerm.VT100*backarrowKeyIsErase: true
XTerm.VT100*scrollBar: off


The explicit color declarations probably isn't needed, and the font
isn't a standard X font, so beware.

My machine runs OpenBSD current, but I can see no good reason that it
shouldn't work everywhere else.

HTH
M

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(bind macro) ('change-folder' gpg)

2001-07-19 Thread Sander Smeenk \(CistroN Medewerker\)

** I am not on this list, if you reply, please CC me! Thanks! **

Heya,

I have two questions I came upon while leetifying my .muttrc :)

1) 
I want 'c' to do 'change-folders, ?, tab' so I did 'macro index c c?\t'
But ofcourse that introduced a macro-loop. I solved this by doing a
'bind @ change-folders', and then 'macro index c @?\t'. But now I'm
wondering if this is the best way to do this, or wether you can tell
mutt to use the binded value of c :)

2)
I receive a lot of gpg signed mail, but 99.9% of the times I am not
really interrested if the key is real and if the signature is
good/trusted. But mutt always forks a process of gpg to check the
signatures. I discovered pgp_verify_sig could tune this behaviour, but
setting that to 'no' causes mutt to not-check *ANY* mail.
Is there any way that mutt can just show crypted / signed messages and
when I want to check / decrypt I can press 'W' or some other key to tell
mutt to fork a process of gpg and show me the output like it does with
pgp_verify_sig set to yes?

It would be ultimately cool if mutt sees the difference between SIGNED
mail and CRYPTED mail, because I always want to decrypt CRYPTED mail :)

Please let me know by CC, as I'm not on this list...

Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Sander.

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color quoted text

2001-07-19 Thread Ben Roberts

I have been having rpoblems getting mutt 1.2.5 to color quoted text; my
quote_regexp is set to the default, my .muttrc does a 'reset all' at the
top, and I have the line color quoted blue black in my .muttrc as
well.  However when running on a color terminal it does not work.

The strange thing about it is that I have tried other people's .muttrc's
(http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/muttrc-1.2i) and they do not work either;
also, I have the line mono quoted reverse in my .muttrc which works
when I am using a vt100 terminal.  So what could be causing this?

This is the version of mutt that is distributed with Red Hat 7.1.

Please fcc me in the reply since I am not on the list.

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-- Gypsy Queen, Tommy, The Who



Re: (bind macro) ('change-folder' gpg)

2001-07-19 Thread darren chamberlain

Sander Smeenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/19/2001:
 I want 'c' to do 'change-folders, ?, tab' so I did 'macro index c c?\t'
 But ofcourse that introduced a macro-loop. I solved this by doing a
 'bind @ change-folders', and then 'macro index c @?\t'. But now I'm
 wondering if this is the best way to do this, or wether you can tell
 mutt to use the binded value of c :)

c is bound by default to change-folder; use that in your macro:

macro index c change-folder?\t

You can get this by hitting ? in any screen (you get the bindings
for that screen).

(darren)

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Reverse search

2001-07-19 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert

How can I do a reverse search in a folder (like Inbox or outgoing) like
in vim ?

ex :

I have 

Phil
John
Jack

I am at the and on the file. How can I find Phil ?

/Phil didn't work !

Thanks
-- 
Jean-Michel Kelbert



Re: Reverse search

2001-07-19 Thread Lawrence Mitchell

* On [010719 15:58] Jean-Michel Kelbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I do a reverse search in a folder (like Inbox or outgoing) like
 in vim ?
 
This is in the help section in mut (got at by pressing ?), a search fro
search yields:
esc/  backwards search

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Re: Reverse search

2001-07-19 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert

Le 19/07/01 à 16:07 Lawrence Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait :
 * On [010719 15:58] Jean-Michel Kelbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can I do a reverse search in a folder (like Inbox or outgoing) like
  in vim ?
  
 This is in the help section in mut (got at by pressing ?), a search fro
 search yields:
 esc/  backwards search

Yes but I like to know how I could make a search on the personn how send
my the mail !

Excuse for my past question !
-- 
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Re: Reverse search

2001-07-19 Thread Mr. Wade

Jean-Michel Kelbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
 How can I do a reverse search in a folder (like Inbox or
 outgoing) like in vim ?

Lawrence Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) replied:
 This is in the help section in mut (got at by pressing ?), a
 search fro search yields: esc/  backwards search

Jean-Michel Kelbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes but I like to know how I could make a search on the personn
 how send my the mail !

Jean-Michel, perhaps reading the section of the manual about
Patterns would benefit you.

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Re: How change trash file

2001-07-19 Thread Gary Johnson

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:49:54PM +0200, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:

 I didn't find how to change the default folder for the trash !

Mutt has no trash folder.

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mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Ben Roberts

Yes, I know this is a FAQ, but I am trying to see if I can use the
$display_filter variable now available in mutt 1.3 to filter out all the
HTML for display within mutt's builtin pager.

So far I have three pipes in the filter: the second is the unhtml
command and the third is sed -e 's/nbsp;//g' (since unhtml does not
remove those spacers), but the first is a problem; mutt will refuse to
display the message with a MIME type of text/html (of course) so my
first command is:
sed -e 's/Content-Type: text\/html/Content-Type: text\/plain/'

To change the MIME type.  This is definately doing something, since
adding this command to the chain causes mutt to not display anything at
all about the message, but I suspect that I might be breaking something
by changing the MIME type here.  Any ideas?

-- 

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Gather your wits and hold on fast/ Your mind must learn to roam
-- Gypsy Queen, Tommy, The Who



Using german date format - locale ignored?

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

Hi!

I already posted this some time back, but since nobody answered, and
since I'd like to get an answer, I repost it.

I'm using the mutt 1.3.19i RPM made by Mandrake.  When I reply to a
mail, the mail is attributed like this:

| So sprach Some1 am Sat, May 26, 2001 at 05:37:09PM -0500:

This is because I've got in my .muttrc:

set attribution = So sprach %n am %d:

When I also have

set   locale=de_DE

in my .muttrc, the locale-correct day and month names are used.  Now I
wonder why mutt ignores my locale settings.  They are setup like this:

 LANG:  de
 LANGUAGE:  de_DE:de
 LC_COLLATE:de_DE
 LC_CTYPE:  de_DE
 LC_MESSAGES:   de_DE
 LC_MONETARY:   de_DE
 LC_NUMERIC:de_DE
 LC_TIME:   de_DE

This also happens with %x.  With 'set locale=de_DE' in my .muttrc, it
prints 17.07.2001 which is the correct date format for my locale.
However, if I remove %x, it prints 07/17/01 which is wrong.

Could someone please tell me why I still need to add 'set locale=de_DE'
to get the correct locale date values?

Thanks a lot,

Alexander Skwar
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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-19 Thread Paul Cox

On Thursday, Jul 19, 2001, Justin R. Miller wrote:

  There are literally dozens of freebsd cvsup repositories - as I'm in
  India I prefer cvsup.jp.freebsd.org and cvsup.kr.freebsd.org
  
  As for the mutt cvs repository take a look at http://www.mutt.org
 
 That's what I'm talking about, the mutt one.  The one in the FAQ is
 refusing pserver connections. 

The mutt cvs is now at cvs.mutt.org... the FAQ needs to be updated.

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Luke Ross

If you have lynx installed, try putting:

text/html;/usr/bin/lynx -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput

in your .mailcap.  Then lynx formats it properly (well sort of) and
displays it in the builtin pager.

Luke

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:39:34AM -0400, Ben Roberts wrote:
 Yes, I know this is a FAQ, but I am trying to see if I can use the
 $display_filter variable now available in mutt 1.3 to filter out all the
 HTML for display within mutt's builtin pager.
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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Luke Ross« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 17:18:21 +0100 :
 If you have lynx installed, try putting:

Or maybe use w3m:

w3m -dump -T text/html %s

w3m also displays tables, and is also quite a lot smaller than lynx.

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Re: Breaking up threads, the r flag.

2001-07-19 Thread Jens Paulus

 Currently, that's the only way to do it.
 
 Of course, we could throw in a heuristic which doesn't set the r 
 flag when the thread is broken up, that is, when the reply doesn't 
 contain in-reply-to.

Wouldn't it be best to have a special function that does what pressing
'm' (in the index) does, but which inserts the output of pressing '@'
(in the index) into the To:-field automatically? That might be a new
suggestion to the developers of mutt.

-Jens





Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Wed, 18. Jul 2001 um 04:53:05PM +0200, Morten Liebach wrote:
 XTerm*termName: xterm-color this is where you set $TERM !!

Ahh...this is wonderful.
Thx a lot.

André.



Re: Using german date format - locale ignored?

2001-07-19 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Thu, 19. Jul 2001 um 05:45:41PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 This also happens with %x.  With 'set locale=de_DE' in my .muttrc, it
 prints 17.07.2001 which is the correct date format for my locale.
 However, if I remove %x, it prints 07/17/01 which is wrong.
 Could someone please tell me why I still need to add 'set locale=de_DE'
 to get the correct locale date values?

In my muttrc manpage (1.2.5) nothing is said about automatic detection
of your system-language-setting.

André.



Aliases problem

2001-07-19 Thread Hegedüs Ervin

Hello there,
I using mutt 1.3.18i on my Debian Sid box.
Everithing workly fine, just I can't use aliases.
Here is my .muttrc:
.
.
.
set alias_file=~/.mail_aliases  # where I keep my aliases
.
.
#set reverse_alias  # attempt to look up my names for people
set reverse_name# use my address as it appears in the message
.
.
alias airween Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alias somebody SB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but when I write a mail, and want to send, and
just write alias name, mutt put our domain after
alias.
What can I do, or what do I do wrong?

Thank you.

AirWeen



Re: Aliases problem

2001-07-19 Thread Hegedüs Ervin

More info:


I start mutt, get email, read, pres 'a',
mutt save alias.
Good, I'm happy.

I exit from mutt.

I get new mail, start mutt again.
I write a mail, press 'a', when I want
to look alias, mutt what I saved before,
but doesn't want to look my ~/.mail_aliases.

Hmm??



Re: How change trash file

2001-07-19 Thread John Arundel

On 2001-07-19 at 08:40:47, Gary Johnson warbled:
 Mutt has no trash folder.

Au contraire... see mutt-dev archives for the trash patch.

John
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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:53:05PM +0200, Morten Liebach wrote:
 The explicit color declarations probably isn't needed, and the font
 isn't a standard X font, so beware.

the color resources aren't needed (but it's worth noting that as you have
listed them, the bold-colors are suppressed)

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:15:26PM -0400, Ed Robitaille wrote:
 In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
 following line in ~/.Xdefaults
 
 *customization: -color
 
 This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.

not exactly.  It tells the X library to look for a resource file such as
XTerm-color, but the content of that file was merged into XTerm a few
years ago.

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 06:30:06PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:21:24PM -0400, Ed Robitaille wrote:
  Ed Robitaille wrote
   In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
   following line in ~/.Xdefaults
   
   *customization: -color
   
   This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.
 
 However I'm pretty sure that color ls in freebsd only works with xterm-color
 (as far as the various xterm termcaps go).  I am pretty sure the person who
 sent the original message was using freebsd.  I use xterm as my termcap on
 Linux machines (even if I'm connecting from my workstations which are both
 freebsd) but i use xterm-color in freebsd.  does anyone know for sure that
 you can get the xterm-xfree86 termcap working on *bsd and that color ls still
 works with it?

unless there's a FreeBSD-specific patch for it, color ls is hardcoded and
ignores the contents of the termcap file.

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 06:33:40PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Luke Ross« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 17:18:21 +0100 :
  If you have lynx installed, try putting:
 
 Or maybe use w3m:
 
   w3m -dump -T text/html %s
 
 w3m also displays tables, and is also quite a lot smaller than lynx.

are you getting html'ized email containing tables?

(w3m also lacks a number of features found in lynx)

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 06:56:51PM +0200, Andre Wyrwa wrote:
 On Thu, 19. Jul 2001 um 09:18:24AM -0700, Dominique Pelle wrote:
  I had the same problem: ls and vim had colors but mutt
  did not. Changing the TERM env did not help.
 
 Changing the TERM env helps for me, I just don't like it.
 But maybe it's the only way.
 I was simply wondering why it works in SuSE without changing the TERM
 variable. But maybe they compiled it with slang, too.

or (more likely) they installed the 'xterm' terminfo to match xterm-xfree86.

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 15:33:34 -0400 :
 are you getting html'ized email containing tables?

Sometimes, yes.

 (w3m also lacks a number of features found in lynx)

Which?  Honestly - I haven't found a feature in lynx that's not present
in w3m.

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 06:30:06PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:21:24PM -0400, Ed Robitaille wrote:
  Ed Robitaille wrote
   In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
   following line in ~/.Xdefaults
   
   *customization: -color
   
   This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.
 
 However I'm pretty sure that color ls in freebsd only works with xterm-color
 (as far as the various xterm termcaps go).  I am pretty sure the person who
 sent the original message was using freebsd.  I use xterm as my termcap on

xterm-xf86-v32 is in their termcap (but ncurses 5.0 is in freebsd-current,
and that has a more recent version of terminfo from which the termcap
entry for xterm-xfree86 should be obtainable).  For whatever reason,
the FreeBSD people don't seem inclined to maintain their termcap file
(it's one of those things I see on the longstanding bugs/issues lists).

it also contains xterm-color, but it neither matches the one in ncurses,
nor is it complete or correct (it uses SGR 39 for 'op' without using 'ut').

the best I could say of that, is that it happens to work if you don't look
too closely.

 Linux machines (even if I'm connecting from my workstations which are both
 freebsd) but i use xterm-color in freebsd.  does anyone know for sure that
 you can get the xterm-xfree86 termcap working on *bsd and that color ls still
 works with it?
 
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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 16:01:22 -0400 :
 cookies, multiple character-set support are the ones listed on w3m's webpage.

Hmm - how often do you get HTML mails that feature cookies? :)  And
about multiple character-set support - what's that?  I can read
German and English pages fine.  That's all the languages I speak.

But yes, cookies aren't that extremely well supported, that's right.
Anyhow, for textmode *browsing* (not paging!) I use links, because of
the awesome tables/frames/background download support.  Could you please
point me to a page that fails with links?

Oh - another shortcoming of w3m (IIRC) - page redirects with meta tags
also doesn't seem to work that well.

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Mutt's Menu Line

2001-07-19 Thread Anthony Williams



Could somebody tell me how can I move Mutt's Menu line (See Below)
from the (Top) to the (Bottom) of my application?  Does anybody have a
suggestion on the config to make this change?

PS: I'm running MUTT 1.2.5




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Re: Mutt's Menu Line

2001-07-19 Thread Ben Roberts

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:05:24PM -0400, Anthony Williams wrote:
 
 
   Could somebody tell me how can I move Mutt's Menu line (See Below)
 from the (Top) to the (Bottom) of my application?  Does anybody have a
 suggestion on the config to make this change?
 
 PS:   I'm running MUTT 1.2.5

I'm reasonably certain it's the variable status_on_top (see the manual)

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Re: Mutt's Menu Line

2001-07-19 Thread M.R.Muthu Kumar



 set status_on_top=yes in you .muttrc file.

-Muthu


On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:14:13PM -0400, Ben Roberts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:05:24PM -0400, Anthony Williams wrote:
  
  
  Could somebody tell me how can I move Mutt's Menu line (See Below)
  from the (Top) to the (Bottom) of my application?  Does anybody have a
  suggestion on the config to make this change?
  
  PS: I'm running MUTT 1.2.5
 
 I'm reasonably certain it's the variable status_on_top (see the manual)
 
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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 10:05:35PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 16:01:22 -0400 :
  cookies, multiple character-set support are the ones listed on w3m's webpage.
 
 Hmm - how often do you get HTML mails that feature cookies? :)  And

other than spam - probably none.  (I get a lot of email, and if I don't
recognize the sender, I'm likely to open it up  see if it's a bug report,
since I do get a few that way)

 about multiple character-set support - what's that?  I can read
 German and English pages fine.  That's all the languages I speak.

I end up browsing a lot of pages because I'm trying to glean bug reports
that people don't bother reporting directly (and if I find something that's
questionable on a page with a useful mailto, I'll email the people - so
it does help to have something like that.
 
 But yes, cookies aren't that extremely well supported, that's right.
 Anyhow, for textmode *browsing* (not paging!) I use links, because of
 the awesome tables/frames/background download support.  Could you please
 point me to a page that fails with links?

I don't keep track (but I'll keep mutt-users in mind the next time I go
browsing and break one or the other of w3m/links).
 
 Oh - another shortcoming of w3m (IIRC) - page redirects with meta tags
 also doesn't seem to work that well.
 
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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:32:14PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 15:33:34 -0400 :
  are you getting html'ized email containing tables?
 
 Sometimes, yes.
 
  (w3m also lacks a number of features found in lynx)
 
 Which?  Honestly - I haven't found a feature in lynx that's not present
 in w3m.

cookies, multiple character-set support are the ones listed on w3m's webpage.
Though there is some cookie support in the code, it appears that they don't
regard it as complete-enough to take away the disclaimer.

I run several browsers as external viewers from lynx - w3m included.  Both
w3m and links fail to view some of the pages that I look at (and often
don't display tables in a more readable form than lynx's simple approach).

(w3m with ssl isn't that small either, in case you're one of those people who
toss in the 300kb figure ;-)

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:02:05 +1200 :
 Links is quite good... does tables, ssl etc, but I guess it's a bit
 big... 

Uhm, not compared to lynx :)

[askwar@teich html]$ ls -la $(which lynx) $(which links) $(which w3m)
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   697756 Jul  3 15:48 /usr/bin/links*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1242844 Jul 16 20:30 /usr/bin/lynx*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   338812 Jan  2  2001 /usr/bin/w3m*

But what's keeping me from using links from inside mutt, is that I can't
force it to display a file as html.

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RE: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Juha Saarinen

:: Uhm, not compared to lynx :)
:: 
:: [askwar@teich html]$ ls -la $(which lynx) $(which links) $(which w3m)
:: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   697756 Jul  3 15:48 
:: /usr/bin/links*
:: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1242844 Jul 16 20:30 
:: /usr/bin/lynx*
:: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   338812 Jan  2  2001 /usr/bin/w3m*

True, although my (Linux) binaries seem smaller than yours:

pts/5 juha@vimfuego:/mnt/hdb6/home/juha$ ls -la `which links lynx`
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   590716 Mar  3 16:39 /usr/bin/links*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1128508 Mar  3 16:46 /usr/bin/lynx*

:: But what's keeping me from using links from inside mutt, is 
:: that I can't
:: force it to display a file as html.

Ahhh... I was wondering about that. No way to do that?

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Re: Aliases problem

2001-07-19 Thread Lukasz Zamel

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:58:59PM +0200, Hegeds Ervin wrote:
 07.19-n, 11:52-kor, Shawn D. McPeek ptygte be, s kldte el:
  
  You need to source ~/.mail_aliases - just setting the alias_file isn't
  enough.  See http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.2
  
  Shawn
 Oh, sorry, I forget this.
 ~/.mail_aliases is exist.
You have to put line: source ~/.mail_aliases i your .muttrc
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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:23:47 +1200 :
 :: Uhm, not compared to lynx :)
 :: 
 :: [askwar@teich html]$ ls -la $(which lynx) $(which links) $(which w3m)
 :: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   697756 Jul  3 15:48 
 :: /usr/bin/links*
 :: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1242844 Jul 16 20:30 
 :: /usr/bin/lynx*
 :: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   338812 Jan  2  2001 /usr/bin/w3m*
 
 True, although my (Linux) binaries seem smaller than yours:

Oh well - different compiler, different settings, different libraries -
you know the game.  At least they consistently differ in size.

 Ahhh... I was wondering about that. No way to do that?

Uhm - don't know.

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Keeping mail marked new till say midnight

2001-07-19 Thread Chris Fuchs

Hi,

I thought I saw something like this in the archive but can't seem to
find it now:  keeping mail marked as new up to an arbitrary future
time/date?  Ie, basically a refinement of setting mark_old=no.
If not, as I suspect, any plans for something like this?

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:09:24PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:02:05 +1200 :
  Links is quite good... does tables, ssl etc, but I guess it's a bit
  big... 
 
 Uhm, not compared to lynx :)

these are comparable (have ssl - which adds ~600kb)

-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  1340028 Jul 11 18:02 /usr/local/bin/links
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  1792308 Jul 17 21:01 /usr/local/bin/lynx
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   956792 Jul 11 18:10 /usr/local/bin/w3m

if the programs did similar functions, their sizes would be closer
 
 [askwar@teich html]$ ls -la $(which lynx) $(which links) $(which w3m)
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   697756 Jul  3 15:48 /usr/bin/links*
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1242844 Jul 16 20:30 /usr/bin/lynx*
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   338812 Jan  2  2001 /usr/bin/w3m*
 
 But what's keeping me from using links from inside mutt, is that I can't
 force it to display a file as html.

(yes - it's only useful for http urls)

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 17:53:27 -0400 :
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:09:24PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
  So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:02:05 +1200 :
   Links is quite good... does tables, ssl etc, but I guess it's a bit
   big... 
  
  Uhm, not compared to lynx :)
 
 these are comparable (have ssl - which adds ~600kb)

Uhm, mine also have SSL support.  Are your bins not stripped?

 if the programs did similar functions, their sizes would be closer

Not neccessarily.

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 So sprach »Thomas Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 17:53:27 -0400 :
  On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:09:24PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
   So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:02:05 +1200 :
Links is quite good... does tables, ssl etc, but I guess it's a bit
big...
  
   Uhm, not compared to lynx :)
 
  these are comparable (have ssl - which adds ~600kb)

 Uhm, mine also have SSL support.  Are your bins not stripped?

ssl is statically linked.  perhaps you have shared libraries.

  if the programs did similar functions, their sizes would be closer

 Not neccessarily.

I'd argue the point, but am not sure you have a good enough understanding
of the issues.

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Quoting

2001-07-19 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

I am using the VVV nntp patch and want to set a group of stuff if I am
in one news folder, but I think the problem is a general mutt one. If I
do something like this:-

folder-hook rec.foo.bar \
'set index_format=---some pattern \
my_hdr Newsgroups: rec.foo.bar \
score \'~f fred\' -20'

it sets the index format but does not set the header for mailing. I have
tried many variants of the quotes but either it does neither or just the
first one. How does one set up the quotes properly? The score line is
something I also want to add, but I have not tried it as above. I can
get everything I want to do to work in separate folder-hook lines, but
this is verbose.

mutt is 1.3.19

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[OT] keymapping trouble in Solaris+Linux

2001-07-19 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Sorry for the OT, but I thought someone here might be able to help me.

The scenario is this: I sitting at a Solaris box, connecting (through
SSH) to my Linux box, running X over the network. I have exchanged the
places of right alt (alt_right) and alt gr (mode_shift), among with some
other key changes, using xmodmap. This works well when I run programs
from the Solaris box.

But this is the problem: none of the programs I run from my Linux box
recognize that I've changed these two keybindings. All the other
keybindings, like shifting ctrl and caps lock, and some Swedish
characters, work well, but not these two. I have no idea what could be
the problem. Could anyone give me a pointer in the right direction?

TIA

Jesper 



Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Thomas E. Dickey« am 2001-07-19 19.07.2001 um 18:41:13 -0400 :
 ssl is statically linked.  perhaps you have shared libraries.

Yes, that's right.

 I'd argue the point, but am not sure you have a good enough understanding
 of the issues.

Maybe not, and don't bother :)

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Re: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Juha Saarinen« am 2001-07-20 20.07.2001 um 09:23:47 +1200 :
 Ahhh... I was wondering about that. No way to do that?

Ahh!  I just posted a question to the links list, and got an answer!

| As said in mutt documentation:
| 
| text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html

So, it doesn't really force links to treat everything as html, but it
forces mutt to create temp files ending with .html which links will then
recognize as html files.

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RE: mutt and HTML

2001-07-19 Thread Juha Saarinen

:: Ahh!  I just posted a question to the links list, and got an answer!
:: 
:: | As said in mutt documentation:
:: | 
:: | text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html
:: 
:: So, it doesn't really force links to treat everything as html, but it
:: forces mutt to create temp files ending with .html which 
:: links will then
:: recognize as html files.

Thanks! Appreciate that. Will try it out in a moment (on a Windows box
now).

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mutt-1.3.?

2001-07-19 Thread Lukasz Zamel

Where I can download versions 1.3.? from?
I've checked www.mutt.org and they sey that 1.2.5i is the latest
version, but few users on this list use this versions.
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