Re: Speed of opening Maildirs (was: Re: move messages at will?)
On 2001-08-21 23:02:13 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: While on the topic of Maildir. I also just recently checked out Maildir support in mutt 1.3.19i again. And, well, I'm not at all impressed :( To test, I've converted a 50 MB mbox with ~5000 messages to Maildir. Opening the mbox in mutt took about 9 seconds. Opening the Maildir took close to 31 (!) seconds! Why is it taking mutt so *EXTREMELY* long to open large Maildirs? I also checked out Evolution, and Evo only took something close to 10 seconds to open the Maildir - but in Evolution it takes ages to sync mbox'es... But that's OT here. Did you do the mutt test several times, so kernel caches could kick in? -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/
Hide folder internal data message?
Hi! I've been using mutt for a long time now, and I think it's a great client. Today I tried to find a way to hide that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message which sits in my mailbox when I use pop on it. However, having looked around for a while, I still had no idea. So I figured I should ask on the mailinglist: How would I go about to hide the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message in mutt? Thanks! /Daniel -- Daniel Åborg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hide folder internal data message?
Daniel ?borg wrote: So I figured I should ask on the mailinglist: How would I go about to hide the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message in mutt? mutt doesn't create this. uw imapd and pine both do, so my guess is that you're using one of these. if you're using pine (which doesn't really make sense sinec you said you use mutt) the answer is simple - choose the 'quell-folder-internal-message' option. however i'm not sure if there's a way to get rid of it with uw imapd. if you're not using either, i'm at a loss as to how the message is getting created. i highly doubt it's coming from mutt though. w -- Sintax error in config file! (line 378) aborted! PGP Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: Speed of opening Maildirs (was: Re: move messages at will?)
So sprach »Thomas Roessler« am 2001-08-22 um 10:23:05 +0200 : Did you do the mutt test several times, so kernel caches could kick in? No, I did not. But in Evolution it's also very fast the very first time a Maildir is opened. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 hours 36 minutes
Re: Speed of opening Maildirs (was: Re: move messages at will?)
On 2001-08-22 13:50:42 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: No, I did not. But in Evolution it's also very fast the very first time a Maildir is opened. Right after you read it with mutt? I'm not talking about mutt caches, but about operating system caches. Please perform the timing experiment with both mutt and Evolution several times, without doing much in between. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/
Re: Hide folder internal data message?
* On 22 Aug 2001 13:22 CEST, Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel ?borg wrote: So I figured I should ask on the mailinglist: How would I go about to hide the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message in mutt? mutt doesn't create this. uw imapd and pine both do, so my guess is that you're using one of these. if you're using pine (which doesn't really make sense sinec you said you use mutt) the answer is simple - choose the 'quell-folder-internal-message' option. however i'm not sure if there's a way to get rid of it with uw imapd. if you're not using either, i'm at a loss as to how the message is getting created. i highly doubt it's coming from mutt though. Thanks for the reply. It's not mutt which creates the message, it's fetchmail. I want the message to be there and mutt /not to show/ the file when it reads the mailbox. :-) /Daniel -- Daniel Åborg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hide folder internal data message?
Daniel Åborg mutt [22/08/01 14:18 +0200]: Thanks for the reply. It's not mutt which creates the message, it's fetchmail. I want the Fetchmail won't create the file by itself. Likely, wherever you are popping your mail from uses ipop3d / uw-imapd. message to be there and mutt /not to show/ the file when it reads the mailbox. :-) folder-hook . push \l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\ -suresh
Re: Speed of opening Maildirs (was: Re: move messages at will?)
So sprach »Thomas Roessler« am 2001-08-22 um 14:04:14 +0200 : Please perform the timing experiment with both mutt and Evolution several times, without doing much in between. Timing sheet: Mailer| Action | Time --+-+-- mutt | Open mbox - 1st run | 55 seconds mutt | Open mbox - 2nd run | 22 seconds mutt | Open MDir - 1st run | n/a mutt | Open MDir - 2nd run | 3 minutes 40 seconds --+-+-- Evolution | Open mbox - 1st run | 40 seconds Evolution | Open mbox - 2nd run | 10 seconds Evolution | Open MDir - 1st run | about 5 minutes Evolution | Open MDir - 2nd run | 15 seconds Explanations: Okay, I now converted an even larger mail spool to Maildir. This one is about 154M and has 33271 messages in it. Opening the Maildir takes about 3 minutes 40 seconds. This is, after I had opened it already several times. Also, when I close mutt, it takes another 20 seconds for mutt to exit. On the bottom of the screen, mutt writes: Mailbox unverändert. (Mailbox unchanged (?)). Opening the mbox file (which I had converted to the above Maildir with mutt), takes close to 55 seconds the first time I open the mbox (ie., when the mbox is not cached by the system) and only 22 seconds afterwards. Also quiting mutt is WAY faster. Only a delay of 1 or 2 seconds. Also the load when opening the Maildir is WAY higher compared to the mbox file. Load when opening the mbox is about 2, Maildir is about 6. Okay, I've got setiathome running, so one may substract 1 (? right?). On to the Evolution results. Opening the Maildir took close to 5 minutes (the first time), but at least the load only went up to 5 and the system also felt more responsible. The 2nd time it took 15 seconds (!!). I don't know, but judging this tremendous speedup, I suppose Evolution is keeping a cache of somesorts which causes it not to read the whole directory. That's just too much of a speedup, I'd say. Now, Evolution is really bad with mbox'es. Not so much when it comes to comparing opening speeds, but much more so when a message is deleted from a mbox. This just takes ages. So I wouldn't recommend mbox to anyone using Evolution. Anyhow, opening the mbox took 40 seconds. Having a look at the mutt mbox times, I'd assume that the mbox was still cached by the system. Opening the mbox in a 2nd run, it took Evolution only about 10 seconds to open it. This really makes me believe that it somehow caches it. Also sorting is WAY faster in Evolution than it is in mutt. The above times already contain the time used to sorting the spool. Resorting it (eg. changing from Subject to Sender) takes no time (1 second). Enabling threaded mode also takes no time. In mutt, changing from the default date/date sort to subject/date takes, uhm, 1 second. But enabling threads (thread/date) takes MUCH longer, to be exact, it took about 2 minutes 30 seconds. The Evolution times stay somewhat constant even after I did some things. I *really* get the impression that it caches it somehow. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 9 hours 10 minutes
Re: Hide folder internal data message?
* On 22 Aug 2001 15:52 CEST, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Åborg mutt [22/08/01 14:18 +0200]: Thanks for the reply. It's not mutt which creates the message, it's fetchmail. I want the Fetchmail won't create the file by itself. Likely, wherever you are popping your mail from uses ipop3d / uw-imapd. message to be there and mutt /not to show/ the file when it reads the mailbox. :-) Ah yes, thinking about it that does sound a lot more likely. :-) folder-hook . push \l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\ Very very clever. I've never used those commands before, especially not in combination. Never occured to me, I just assumed there would be some configuration command which did the same thing as 'l' does. I bet you can do all sorts of clever stuff with push in combination with folder-hooks. I replaced the . with !, since it only appears in the spool. Like the * at the end, didn't know about that either. Nice finishing touch. Thanks lots! /Daniel -- Daniel Åborg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auto_delete
Hi, How can I set mutt to automaticly delete everything after -- [dash dash space]. It's very usefull when replying a message to yahoogroups (their adds are automaticly removed). -- We don't need no education, We don't need no thought control; Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone, All in ill, you're just ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL
GPG / PGP verification problem
So. When I receive a gpg-signed and -encrypted mail, and gpg gives me the result . . . [-- PGP output follows (current time: Wed 22 Aug 2001 18:53:27 BST) --] gpg: encrypted with 1536-bit ELG-E key, ID D289D3A4, created 1999-11-25 Person One [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID 01BD4B5E, created 2001-08-22 Ailbhe Leamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: Signature made Wed 22 Aug 2001 18:35:52 BST using DSA key ID 5863F769 gpg: Good signature from Person One [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Person One [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-- End of PGP output --] . . . mutt tells me, just below the status bar, that PGP signature could NOT be verified. Although it has, in fact, been verified. Is this a wetware error, or a Real Bug? Ailbhe -- Homepage: http://ailbhe.ossifrage.net/
Re: auto_delete
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:56:34PM +0200, Azzazel wrote:
Hi,
How can I set mutt to automaticly delete everything after --
[dash dash space]. It's very usefull when replying a message to
yahoogroups (their adds are automaticly removed).
I wrote a little script (attached) called mutt-vim which does this for me,
along with setting various other vim options (you'll want to change
those). You'll have to set editor=mutt-vim in order to call the script,
of course. :-)
LateR!
js.
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#!/bin/sh
clear
umask 077
Vim () {
vim +set nonu +set wm=6 +set ai +set ts=8 $*
}
# strip signatures
if [ -x `which gawk 2/dev/null` -a -s $1 ]
then
gawk '{
if ($0 ~ /^ --( ?|--*)$/) {
while ($0 !~ /^( |)$/) { getline }
}
print $0 OUTFILE
}' OUTFILE=$1.out $1
mv $1.out $1
fi
case $LOGNAME in
root|jsmoriss)
case $SSH_CLIENT in
10.1.1.120 *) stty cols 80; Vim $*; stty cols 132 ;;
38.144.*) stty cols 80; Vim $*; stty cols 132 ;;
64.*) stty cols 80; Vim $*; stty cols 132 ;;
*) Vim $* ;;
esac
;;
*) Vim $* ;;
esac
PGP signature
Address Book
Hello, I'm a recent convert from pine. One thing I can't find any documentation on so far,[I've read the man page for mutt and the web FAQ so far] is how to use an address book with mutt. Otherwise everything is fine in respect to this great mua. Could someone please point me in the right direction for information. Thank-you. In the meantime I'll keep looking. -- Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764 /~\ 'If you're not a rebel when you're 20 you've got no heart; if \ / you're not establishment when you're 30 you've got no brain. X Join the ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML email/ \
Re: Address Book
steve mutt [22/08/01 15:25 -0400]: I'm a recent convert from pine. One thing I can't find any documentation on so far,[I've read the man page for mutt and the web FAQ so far] is how to use an address book with mutt. Otherwise everything is fine in respect to this great mua. http://abook.sourceforge.net -suresh
Re: Address Book
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:05:15AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: steve mutt [22/08/01 15:25 -0400]: I'm a recent convert from pine. One thing I can't find any documentation on so far,[I've read the man page for mutt and the web FAQ so far] is how to use an address book with mutt. http://abook.sourceforge.net If you just want to convert a pine addressbook to a mutt alias file, look in ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/contrib/ for addressbook-to-alias.pl.gz -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843
Re: Address Book
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:05:15AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: steve mutt [22/08/01 15:25 -0400]: I'm a recent convert from pine. One thing I can't find any documentation on so far,[I've read the man page for mutt and the web FAQ so far] is how to use an address book with mutt. Otherwise everything is fine in respect to this great mua. http://abook.sourceforge.net -suresh Thanks to all 3 of you for the concise and rapid responses. I'm looking @ abook. -- Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764 /~\ 'If you're not a rebel when you're 20 you've got no heart; if \ / you're not establishment when you're 30 you've got no brain. X Join the ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML email/ \
selective message deletion
Dear Friends, Being a new user of mutt to pick up mail from my isp's POP server, I'm wondering if mutt can be configured to leave read messages on the POP machine while deleting those mostly spam pieces one deletes without even opening. This was feature of elm I liked, but because of a configuration change on the jtan system, it's easiest for me to use mutt and the POP server. Best, Brian -- Brian McNeill Advertising Corporate Photography phone 215.368.3326 1511 Cowpath Road, Hatfield, PA 19440
Re: selective message deletion
Brian McNeill mutt [22/08/01 17:07 -0400]: Being a new user of mutt to pick up mail from my isp's POP server, I'm wondering if mutt can be configured to leave read messages on the POP machine while deleting those mostly spam pieces one deletes without even Use fetchmail for this. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail -suresh
Re: selective message deletion
Sure, just browse the pop server, do: c change mailbox pop://pop.example.com Use the normal commands to delete, save to a different mailbox, etc. Sam Quoting Brian McNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote: Dear Friends, Being a new user of mutt to pick up mail from my isp's POP server, I'm wondering if mutt can be configured to leave read messages on the POP machine while deleting those mostly spam pieces one deletes without even opening. This was feature of elm I liked, but because of a configuration change on the jtan system, it's easiest for me to use mutt and the POP server. Best, Brian -- Brian McNeill Advertising Corporate Photography phone 215.368.3326 1511 Cowpath Road, Hatfield, PA 19440 -- Sam Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selective message deletion
Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian McNeill mutt [22/08/01 17:07 -0400]: Being a new user of mutt to pick up mail from my isp's POP server, I'm wondering if mutt can be configured to leave read messages on the POP machine while deleting those mostly spam pieces one deletes without even Use fetchmail for this. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail Or getmail at the link in my .sig. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: GPG / PGP verification problem
Thus spake Ailbhe Leamy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): . . . mutt tells me, just below the status bar, that PGP signature could NOT be verified. Although it has, in fact, been verified. Is this a wetware error, or a Real Bug? If you're using 1.3.18 as your mail headers say, then I'd recommend you try 1.3.20 or 1.3.21, it seems to have fixed misc. things like this. -Justin -- [ ] -- Justin R. Miller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [ ] [ ] -- see full headers for PGP key information -- [ ] [ ] -- http://solidlinux.com/~justin/pubkey.asc -- [ ] PGP signature
Re: Address Book
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:43:14PM -0400, steve wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:05:15AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://abook.sourceforge.net -suresh Thanks to all 3 of you for the concise and rapid responses. I'm looking @ abook. So, what is the point of abook? To query non-mutt address books from mutt? It looks like if I was silly enough to want to manage my .aliases file with it, I would have to convert .aliases to abook format, then run abook, then convert back to mutt .aliases. Or am I missing something? -d -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/
abook
is there a way to add email addresses / names to abook instead of using the 'alias' command in mutt? i have mutt setup to query abook which works pretty well but it would be nice to be able to add addresses to abook as well. a quick web search didn't turn up anything... w -- Sintax error in config file! (line 378) aborted! PGP Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
