Re: Browser problem on text/html

2001-11-02 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:43:58PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
 When I receive an email in text/html, I do the following
 press 'v' and then the enter key.
 
 I then receive the following error message:
   sh: syntax error near unexpected token `openURL(''
   sh: -c: line 1: `netscape -remote openURL('/tmp/muttJQ7lNS')'

Easy to fix!

 1)What can I do to correct this and launch a browser?

You need to set up how MIME message types are handled, and change that netscape
line to work with (a) your shell (b) your browser.

 2)Where is documentation on this?

Read `man 5 muttrc`, specifically the section on auto_view.  It will further
direct you to `man 5 mailcap`, which is the system config file for MIME type
handling.

Happy mutting.

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Re: listing a resum of many mailboxes when starting mutt ?

2001-11-02 Thread Petr Baudis

 Hello everybody,
 
 I would like to view a resume of different incoming mailboxes just before
 selecting one. Some thing I would have with  [..]$ du $HOME/Mail/ 
 
 In my $HOME/.muttrc I put these
 --
 
 set folder=~/Mail
 ...
 mailboxes =mutt  =postfix
 
 -- 
 
 The command mailboxes is indicated in section 3.11 Defining mailboxes ..
 mutt-manual.txt.gz . But it doesn't work .
Sure it doesn't? Try to press 'c', then '?' to list content of ~/Mail/, and
then press tab. It should work then. If you want to see this upon mutt's
startup, run mutt with -y (i personally have M macro in mutt for c?tab and
alias m='mutt -y' in bash).

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Re: command line folder alias access (feature request)

2001-11-02 Thread David T-G

Alexander, et al --

...and then Alexander V. Konstantinou said...
%  % Right now I've achieved this functionality through a wrapper shell
%  % script that greps for the alias name and invokes mutt with the real
%  % user name.
%  
%  That makes sense, though it sounds somewhat painful.
% 
% It is not really painful, or slow for that matter on my machine ...

I'm sure it's easy to use, and I'm glad it's not slow.  By painful,
though, I meant that it requires an extra step and you have to wrap your
mutt invocation.


% Here is my quick and dirty script:
--8-- snip

A nice piece of work.  Not so dirty at all :-)


% 
%  Have you checked out Hans Bogaard's save_alias patch?  That lets you
%  save your mail to foolong in =foo instead of =foolong, which is perhaps
%  a backwards way of achieving what you want but adds the advantage that
%  your aliases are less likely to collide than real world names and so you
%  shouldn't have any (or should at least have fewer) problems in $folder :-)
% 
% Actually, I like this idea better than mine. I'll try this patch out.

Enjoy!  You can find a copy at

  http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/

if nowhere else.


% 
% Thanks,
% 
% Alexander


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Re: unable to post to AOL

2001-11-02 Thread Oliver Ob

Right inside this thread a short question, as I am not using AOL but
want Walter
to be able to use Netscape with it:

What are the servers?
pop3.aol.com and smtp.aol.com do not seem to work.

Can you be so nice as to simply post those? Thanks.
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pop3 access

2001-11-02 Thread Sean Wilson

Where can I get information on how to get mail from my pop3 web mail (yahoo)
using mutt at work.

ideally, I would like to be able to get my yahoo mail and then reply to it
with the yahoo addy through their smtp.

any ideas?



Re: pop3 access

2001-11-02 Thread Ryan Allen

Checkout fetchmail.  This should do exactally what you want.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/

I've been using it for years.

-- Ryan



* Sean Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on [11-02-01y 10:30]:
 Where can I get information on how to get mail from my pop3 web mail (yahoo)
 using mutt at work.
 
 ideally, I would like to be able to get my yahoo mail and then reply to it
 with the yahoo addy through their smtp.
 
 any ideas?
 



Re: pop3 access

2001-11-02 Thread Lukas Beeler

On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:23:55AM -0800, Sean Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where can I get information on how to get mail from my pop3 web mail (yahoo)
 using mutt at work.
 
 ideally, I would like to be able to get my yahoo mail and then reply to it
 with the yahoo addy through their smtp.
 
 any ideas?

yes, i think using fetchmail or getmail would be the way to
go. But injecting the Mail to yahoo's smtp would require the
use of a Nullmailer or smarthost in sendmail, because mutt
only works with local injection, not with smtp injection.

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Auto CC the From: when reply in mailing list

2001-11-02 Thread Patrik Modesto

Hello,
I'm looking for a special version of List-reply function, that automaticaly CC
the sender. So new mail header would look like this:
From: me
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: someone who wrote the mail to the list

How to do it?

Mody



Re: Auto CC the From: when reply in mailing list

2001-11-02 Thread Will Yardley

Patrik Modesto wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for a special version of List-reply function, that automaticaly CC
 the sender. So new mail header would look like this:
 From: me
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: someone who wrote the mail to the list
 
 How to do it?

hit whatever key you have bound to group-reply (i think g by
default?)... however you should generally avoid doing this.  if people
want to be cc'd or replied to privately, they will probably have
'set-followup-to' or 'reply-to' set to their address.

it's generally considered rude to send to both a list and to someone on
the list, so you should only do this if the person has specifically
indicated that they want to receive a cc.

with other mutt users at least (are there any other MUAs that set
'mail-followup-to' correctly??) if they're not 'subscribed' to a mailing
list, their 'mail-followup-to' will probably include both their address
and the list address, so list-reply will cc them automatically.

w

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Re: unable to post to AOL

2001-11-02 Thread David T-G

Oliver --

...and then Oliver Ob said...
% 
...
% What are the servers?
% pop3.aol.com and smtp.aol.com do not seem to work.

Check the archives.  You cannot send out through AOL except by using
AOL's mail software; you will have to find another SMTP server or run
your own (which is sketchy at best under Win, which you must use instead
of *NIX to log in to AOL).


% 
% Can you be so nice as to simply post those? Thanks.

I already did -- and, IIRC, I also noted that the proper address for
the mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of @gbnet.net to boot.


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% *??., ??,.??*???*?=Oliver@home= *??., ??,.??*??*?
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% I   http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html I
% I   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93   I
% I   http://home.t-online.de/home/spacecraft.portal  I
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Re: Auto CC the From: when reply in mailing list

2001-11-02 Thread David Champion

On 2001.11.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 hit whatever key you have bound to group-reply (i think g by
 default?)... however you should generally avoid doing this.  if people
 want to be cc'd or replied to privately, they will probably have
 'set-followup-to' or 'reply-to' set to their address.

I don't find that to be true. Many people are aware that they can do
that, and they do, but many more (in my experience) do not. Rather, they
just say in the text of their message that they'd like private replies
or carbon copies.

 it's generally considered rude to send to both a list and to someone on
 the list, so you should only do this if the person has specifically
 indicated that they want to receive a cc.

I don't think that's *generally* considered rude, either. I consider it
an aspect of using e-mail in the contemporary environment. I suspect
that most people expect this behavior.


 with other mutt users at least (are there any other MUAs that set
 'mail-followup-to' correctly??) if they're not 'subscribed' to a mailing
 list, their 'mail-followup-to' will probably include both their address
 and the list address, so list-reply will cc them automatically.

This is the thing you can count on. I always group-reply in lists that
I know have an open posting policy, because I cannot assume that the
sender is on a list, and because there is a way (m-f-t) to indicate that
you don't want a copy, and because my mailer respects that.

YMMV!

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Re: Auto CC the From: when reply in mailing list

2001-11-02 Thread Will Yardley

David Champion wrote:
 On 2001.11.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  if people want to be cc'd or replied to privately, they will
  probably have 'set-followup-to' or 'reply-to' set to their address.
 
 I don't find that to be true. Many people are aware that they can do
 that, and they do, but many more (in my experience) do not. Rather,
 they just say in the text of their message that they'd like private
 replies or carbon copies.

no that's true (and that's partially) why i mentioned the possiblity of
them stating one preference or another in the reply.

  it's generally considered rude to send to both a list and to someone
  on the list, so you should only do this if the person has
  specifically indicated that they want to receive a cc.
 
 I don't think that's *generally* considered rude, either. I consider
 it an aspect of using e-mail in the contemporary environment. I
 suspect that most people expect this behavior.

fair enough.  most of the lists that i'm on are closed to outside
posters, so unless someone has specifically requested a cc i usually
reply to the list (especially since some people _really_ don't like it
if you respond to them).  i've found that most people feel this way on
mailing lists that are also gateways to newsgroups
 
  with other mutt users at least (are there any other MUAs that set
  'mail-followup-to' correctly??) if they're not 'subscribed' to a
  mailing list, their 'mail-followup-to' will probably include both
  their address and the list address, so list-reply will cc them
  automatically.
 
 This is the thing you can count on. I always group-reply in lists that
 I know have an open posting policy, because I cannot assume that the
 sender is on a list, and because there is a way (m-f-t) to indicate
 that you don't want a copy, and because my mailer respects that.

yuppers.  i actually didn't realize that group-reply honored
'mail-followup-to' - knowing that probably would have changed my answer
a bit.

i guess i assumed that group-reply would blindly reply to all (except
yourself if you have metoo unset).  doing 'group-reply' can start to get
ugly when a lot of people are cc'd

i don't care too much when people cc me, since i have different
addresses for each list, and filter mail sent to those addresses to the
appropriate folders anyway... plus i use procmail to eliminate
duplicates based on message-id.

i still generally prefer to just receive a list-reply though.

speaking of this, is there any way to have a macro that does (in
essence)
if (there is a valid list), ask me if i want to list reply if i hit
'reply' instead of 'list-reply'

this way if i accidentally hit 'r' instead of 'L' it'll make sure i
actually mean to do that.

actually at this point, i'm so used to hitting 'l' instead of 'r' that i
sometimes try to list-reply to my friends :

w

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Re: Auto CC the From: when reply in mailing list

2001-11-02 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-02 22:51]:
On 2001.11.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's generally considered rude to send to both a list and to someone on
 the list, so you should only do this if the person has specifically
 indicated that they want to receive a cc.
I don't think that's *generally* considered rude, either. I consider it
an aspect of using e-mail in the contemporary environment. I suspect
that most people expect this behavior.
I cannot see the connection. It can be both rude and expected. I
consider it rude if my mailbox is filled with utterly redundant
information which needs still time to deal with.

 with other mutt users at least (are there any other MUAs that set
 'mail-followup-to' correctly??) if they're not 'subscribed' to a mailing
 list, their 'mail-followup-to' will probably include both their address
 and the list address, so list-reply will cc them automatically.
This is the thing you can count on. I always group-reply in lists that
I know have an open posting policy, because I cannot assume that the
sender is on a list, and because there is a way (m-f-t) to indicate that
you don't want a copy, and because my mailer respects that.
So it's my job to tell the world 'Please don't send me redundant
information'?
If the sender is for whatever reasons not on the list, it's his bad
luck. Why do you think it's appropriate to annoy list members only to
reach someone not interested enough to subscribe?

Thorsten
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Re: listing a resum of many mailboxes when starting mutt ?

2001-11-02 Thread Truong



Petr Baudis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  Hello everybody,
  
  I would like to view a resume of different incoming mailboxes just before
  selecting one. Some thing I would have with  [..]$ du $HOME/Mail/ 
  
  In my $HOME/.muttrc I put these
  --
  
  set folder=~/Mail
  ...
  mailboxes =mutt  =postfix
  
  -- 
  
  The command mailboxes is indicated in section 3.11 Defining mailboxes ..
  mutt-manual.txt.gz . But it doesn't work .
 Sure it doesn't? Try to press 'c', then '?' to list content of ~/Mail/, and
 then press tab. It should work then. If you want to see this upon mutt's
 startup, run mutt with -y (i personally have M macro in mutt for c?tab and
 alias m='mutt -y' in bash).
 
 -- Petr Pasky Baudis --


Hi Petr,

Yes, I know to run [..]$ mutt -y to list all files defined with the command 
mailboxes , and also keys binding 'c' to change to others files then '?' to select one 
. For this, the manual wroted by Micheal Elkin and others veteran mutt-users is quite 
clear . Your idea about alias in bashrc is also a good point, I will put it in mine .

Well, I missed some descriptions: as you see, each time the key 'c' is pressed (or in 
console mode 'mutt -y'), we can see a resume of all mail-files with amount in bytes . 
What I would like to see more is the number of mails in each file, something like when 
I start 'mutt' without option and the $spoolfile is shown with that information 
(number of mails). 

I think of some macro menu format . There are surely already the solution(s) but I 
didn't find yet in the manual, that's why I would like to learn from mutt-users .

I hope I explain correctly the question this time .

Thanks for your discussions,

Truong,





Re: pop3 access

2001-11-02 Thread David Clarke

On Fri, 02 Nov 2001, Sean Wilson wrote:
 ideally, I would like to be able to get my yahoo mail and then reply to it
 with the yahoo addy through their smtp.
 

Howdy,
To get mutt to grab the mail off the mailserver you need to use
2 options, pop_host and pop_user.  There's a few other's that you might
want too.  They're all listed in man muttrc  you would probably do
something like:

set pop_host=pop.mail.yahoo.com
set pop_user=username

in you muttrc.  I'd recommend fetchmail for that though.  It's fairly
easy to get mutt to send emails so they look like they're from yahoo.

I use my_hdr From: David Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] and set
envelope_from to make it so that my emails appear to be from yahoo.

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Re: listing a resum of many mailboxes when starting mutt ?

2001-11-02 Thread David T-G

Truong, et al --

By the way, would you mind setting your line wrap at 72 characters or so?
It makes it much easier to read, and most folks on this list are staunchly
ASCII-only and appreciate the formatting.


...and then Truong said...
% 
% Petr Baudis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
%   
...
%   I would like to view a resume of different incoming mailboxes just before
%   selecting one. Some thing I would have with  [..]$ du $HOME/Mail/ 
...
%   The command mailboxes is indicated in section 3.11 Defining mailboxes ..
%   mutt-manual.txt.gz . But it doesn't work .
%  Sure it doesn't? Try to press 'c', then '?' to list content of ~/Mail/, and
...
% 
% Hi Petr,
% 
% Yes, I know to run [..]$ mutt -y to list all files defined with the command 
mailboxes , and also keys binding 'c' to change to others files then '?' to select one 
. For this, the manual wroted by Micheal Elkin and others veteran mutt-users is quite 
clear . Your idea about alias in bashrc is also a good point, I will put it in mine .

Good so far.


% 
% Well, I missed some descriptions: as you see, each time the key 'c' is pressed (or 
in console mode 'mutt -y'), we can see a resume of all mail-files with amount in bytes 
. What I would like to see more is the number of mails in each file, something like 
when I start 'mutt' without option and the $spoolfile is shown with that information 
(number of mails). 

I think I get it.  mutt does not know how many messages are in a mailbox
until it opens it, and it could be very expensive to open every mailbox
just to count messages before giving you the display.  Instead mutt
checks the access and modification times to determine whether or not
there is new mail (quiet, Rob! ;-) and can, of course, check the raw
size.


% 
% I think of some macro menu format . There are surely already the solution(s) but I 
didn't find yet in the manual, that's why I would like to learn from mutt-users .

Actually, there probably isn't.  This, like the do I have new mail?
topic,  comes up fairly often.  Most folks say I want mutt to tell
me such-and-such without realizing what it takes to provide that
information, but there's always some smart aleck (it was I last time)
who shows quickly and simply why it would take way too much time; after
all, mutt can happily handle huge mailboxes :-)


% 
% I hope I explain correctly the question this time .

I hope I explained the correct answer :-)


% 
% Thanks for your discussions,

HTH  HAND


% 
% Truong,
% 


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