Unwanted read-only
I have a puzzle I have mutt-1.2.5i installed as the recommended mail client on my system. Compile options are: System: Linux 2.4.12-ac3 [using ncurses 5.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_POP -HAVE_REGCOMP +USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail SHAREDIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell I set up two accounts for a new user yesterday. Mutt insists on opening her mailboxes read-only. Even if I, as root, su to her account and explicitly run /usr/local/bin/mutt to make totally certain I'm not hitting an alias, with read_only explicitly set to no in .muttrc, the mailbox is still opened read-only. File ownership and permissions on the mailbox and on /var/spool/mail are correct. Any ideas? Diagnostic tips? I'm baffled. -- * Fight Back! It may not be just YOUR life at risk. * phil stracchino :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unix ronin renaissance man mystic zen biker geek 2000 CBR929RR, 1991 VFR750F3 (foully murdered), 1986 VF500F (sold) Linux Now! ...because friends don't let friends use Microsoft.
Re: line length
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 17:10:24 +, Dave Pearson wrote: Right, ok, the mode I use locally (not to be confused with post.el) doesn't handle that either. This is never a problem for me because I view the above as broken quoting anyway and, Yes, but some users generate such quoting. Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't exist. See above and below. I fix it on the rare occasion when I encounter it. when I need to fill and quote text like the above, I fix it first (makes it more readable for me and for other people). OK, so how do you fix it automatically with emacs? I don't, I fix it by hand, it only takes a moment. -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
GPG signed mails as attachments
Hi I recently started gpg signing all the mails I send with mutt. Mutt displays these mails fine, but some people using for example MS Outlook see my plaintext message as an attachment. With a second attachment for the signature. Is there something I can do on my side so that my mail is considered the main message, with only the signature as an attachment? I've looked through the faq, but can't find anything on this. Thanx Fred msg20461/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Handling digests
On 2001-11-14 13:57:37 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: I have started to subscribe to a mailing list digest, which I have not done before, but it is mostly of things I don;t need to read immediately but can browse every couple of days. What I do want to do is to do something to the digest(s) so that I can deal with them in the normal way, i.e. get threads etc. I am thinking that grepmail may be able to do this (if I get time today I will have a look-see), but I am sure many people have done this before, so any tips would be appreciated. This sounds more like job for procmail putting the individual list messages into a folder of their own than like a job for digests... -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/
Re: GPG signed mails as attachments
* Fred Strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [15-11-2001 11:44]: | I recently started gpg signing all the mails I send with mutt. | Mutt displays these mails fine, but some people using for example MS | Outlook see my plaintext message as an attachment. With a second | attachment for the signature. Is there something I can do on my side so | that my mail is considered the main message, with only the signature | as an attachment? | | I've looked through the faq, but can't find anything on this. Check the archives of this list. It has come up _many_ times. Search the list for discussions on the pgp_create_traditional directive: you will find every information you need. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Faith: not wanting to know what is true. -Friedrich Nietzsche msg20463/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPG signed mails as attachments
Fred Strauss wrote: I recently started gpg signing all the mails I send with mutt. Mutt displays these mails fine, but some people using for example MS Outlook see my plaintext message as an attachment. With a second attachment for the signature. Is there something I can do on my side so that my mail is considered the main message, with only the signature as an attachment? I've looked through the faq, but can't find anything on this. check the archives. there has been a lot of discussion of this. there is an outhouse compatibility patche i believe, and you can also try setting pgp_create_traditional which will generate clearsigned messages in theory. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: line length
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:46:16 +, Dave Pearson wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Yes, but some users generate such quoting. Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't exist. See above and below. I fix it on the rare occasion when I encounter it. And *you* did generate such quoting. From your message: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 17:10:24 +, Dave Pearson wrote: OK, so how do you fix it automatically with emacs? I don't, I fix it by hand, it only takes a moment. It is still annoying to have to insert a blank line (even in particular cases). -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: Handling digests
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:41:48AM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2001-11-14 13:57:37 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: I have started to subscribe to a mailing list digest, which I have not done before, but it is mostly of things I don;t need to read immediately but can browse every couple of days. What I do want to do is to do something to the digest(s) so that I can deal with them in the normal way, i.e. get threads etc. I am thinking that grepmail may be able to do this (if I get time today I will have a look-see), but I am sure many people have done this before, so any tips would be appreciated. This sounds more like job for procmail putting the individual list messages into a folder of their own than like a job for digests... Yes I understand that, but it's not really what I want to do. I want a means of downloading a digest, as a digest, i.e. a single message and then by some jiggery-pokery undigesting it, perhaps temporarily (a la grepmail). I know there are MUA's that can do this, but mutt cannot (and I have *no* intention of giving up mutt just for this btw, it is in my opinion a brilliant piece of software which makes mail-reading as painless as possible). I do use procmail btw, but it is a pig, both resource wise and syntactically...it looks like it was born in the same barn as sendmail. My MTA is postfix, my MUA is mutt .. both of these I am very happy with. The man in the middle ..Procmail.. I dislike intensely...but that is OT here. Thanks for the input anyway. -- Regards Cliff
Re: Backspace in the pager
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:17:56AM -0700, Sean LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 06:45:57AM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: I added the 2 following lines to my .muttrc: bind pager \ch previous-line bind pager \c? previous-line [...] Hmmm. I tried this, still no workie. I also tried some variations on the theme, like \Ch, \C?, ^h, ^? and a few others I can't recall right now. I just checked it, I need the two lines only when working within putty, at the console mutt is working perfectly without them. Where do you start mutt from (putty, xterm, console,...)? Is the $TERM set correctly? Nicolas
Re: Handling digests
Hi, * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-15 12:17]: Yes I understand that, but it's not really what I want to do. I want a means of downloading a digest, as a digest, i.e. a single message and then by some jiggery-pokery undigesting it, perhaps temporarily (a la grepmail). I know there are MUA's that can do this, but mutt cannot (and I have *no* intention of giving up mutt just for this btw, it is in my opinion a brilliant piece of software which makes mail-reading as painless as possible). I do use procmail btw, but it is a pig, both resource wise and syntactically...it looks like it was born in the same barn as sendmail. It can un-digest though. I don't have the recipe, but it's either in the manpages or in a prominent position on Procmail's website or FAQ. Maybe Timo's page. My MTA is postfix, my MUA is mutt .. both of these I am very happy with. The man in the middle ..Procmail.. I dislike intensely...but that is OT here. Use Mail::Audit. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Handling digests
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:50:26PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-15 12:17]: Yes I understand that, but it's not really what I want to do. I want a means of downloading a digest, as a digest, i.e. a single message and then by some jiggery-pokery undigesting it, perhaps temporarily (a la grepmail). I know there are MUA's that can do this, but mutt cannot (and I have *no* intention of giving up mutt just for this btw, it is in my opinion a brilliant piece of software which makes mail-reading as painless as possible). I do use procmail btw, but it is a pig, both resource wise and syntactically...it looks like it was born in the same barn as sendmail. It can un-digest though. I don't have the recipe, but it's either in the manpages or in a prominent position on Procmail's website or FAQ. Maybe Timo's page. try 'man procmailex' My MTA is postfix, my MUA is mutt .. both of these I am very happy with. The man in the middle ..Procmail.. I dislike intensely...but that is OT here. Use Mail::Audit. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin ---end quoted text--- -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: line length
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:02:53PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:46:16 +, Dave Pearson wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Yes, but some users generate such quoting. Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't exist. See above and below. I fix it on the rare occasion when I encounter it. And *you* did generate such quoting. From your message: I can't see anything wrong with the quoting. Perhaps you're suggesting that I should add an extra newline after my attribution line? That seems like a reasonable idea. I'd assumed that we were talking about the quoting of the actual content of an email here. -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: line length
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 13:43:32 +, Dave Pearson wrote: I can't see anything wrong with the quoting. Perhaps you're suggesting that I should add an extra newline after my attribution line? That seems like a reasonable idea. I'd assumed that we were talking about the quoting of the actual content of an email here. I think that sticking the attribution line to the content is a good idea. It is still readable, and we avoid to waste an empty line. Ditto for snip tags, e.g. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah [snip] After a few quote levels, the quoted text *may* still need to be present and need to be reformated. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: MUA statistics
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Christoph Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2001-11-06 Ken Weingold wrote: Does anyone know of any sites with MUA usage statistics? I would like to see where mutt places. The statistics of the German suse-linux mailinglist contain information about MUA usage. You can find them www.dhaller.de/linux/statistik/statistik.html I've taken the script, added recognition of Pine, and subscribed all suse mailinglists to one testaccount, and most (all but cvs-all and similar) FreeBSD Mailinglists to another. mutt-users (since 2001-11-03): 104 User 388 Postings Mailreader statistics - User Mailreader 1. 96 (92.31%) Mutt 2. 4 ( 3.85%) unknown 3. 1 ( 0.96%) Mozilla 4. 1 ( 0.96%) User-Agent: Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) 5. 1 ( 0.96%) Internet Mail Service 6. 1 ( 0.96%) ReadMail 7. 0 ( 0.00%) Spruce 8. 0 ( 0.00%) Pine Postings Mailreader 1. 371 (95.62%) Mutt 2.6 ( 1.55%) Spruce 3.4 ( 1.03%) unknown 4.3 ( 0.77%) Pine 5.1 ( 0.26%) Mozilla 6.1 ( 0.26%) User-Agent: Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) 7.1 ( 0.26%) Internet Mail Service 8.1 ( 0.26%) ReadMail suse-linux-lists (since 2001-11-8): 890 User 3623 Postings Mailreader statistics - User Mailreader 1. 232 (26.07%) KMail 2. 130 (14.61%) Mozilla 3. 82 ( 9.21%) Microsoft Outlook Express 4. 73 ( 8.20%) unknown 5. 62 ( 6.97%) Mutt 6. 49 ( 5.51%) Internet Mail Service 7. 41 ( 4.61%) Microsoft Outlook IMO 8. 39 ( 4.38%) Pine 9. 20 ( 2.25%) Microsoft Outlook 10. 16 ( 1.80%) WWW-Mail Postings Mailreader 1. 1071 (29.56%) KMail 2. 590 (16.28%) Mutt 3. 395 (10.90%) Mozilla 4. 257 ( 7.09%) unknown 5. 248 ( 6.85%) Microsoft Outlook Express 6. 115 ( 3.17%) Microsoft Outlook IMO 7. 115 ( 3.17%) Internet Mail Service 8. 107 ( 2.95%) Pine 9. 72 ( 1.99%) XFMail 10. 65 ( 1.79%) Sylpheed FreeBSD mailinglists (since 2001-11-13): 426 User 798 Postings Mailreader statistics - User Mailreader 1. 122 (28.64%) unknown 2. 91 (21.36%) Mutt 3. 34 ( 7.98%) Pine 4. 28 ( 6.57%) Microsoft Outlook Express 5. 26 ( 6.10%) Mozilla 6. 14 ( 3.29%) KMail 7. 14 ( 3.29%) QUALCOMM Windows Eudora 8. 12 ( 2.82%) Microsoft Outlook IMO 9. 11 ( 2.58%) exmh 10. 8 ( 1.88%) Internet Mail Service Postings Mailreader 1. 228 (28.57%) unknown 2. 172 (21.55%) Mutt 3. 69 ( 8.65%) Pine 4. 49 ( 6.14%) Microsoft Outlook Express 5. 43 ( 5.39%) Mozilla 6. 29 ( 3.63%) QUALCOMM Windows Eudora 7. 27 ( 3.38%) KMail 8. 21 ( 2.63%) Microsoft Outlook IMO 9. 20 ( 2.51%) Microsoft Outlook 10. 18 ( 2.26%) XFMail Nicolas
Re: MUA statistics
iain truskett wrote: [snip] So, a quick analysis of the stats produces: 12182Mutt 21756Microsoft Outlook Express 31396Mozilla 41336eGroups 51123Internet Mail Service 6948 Microsoft Outlook 7577 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora 8363 Messenger 9225 KMail 10187 Pluto 11148 ANT RISCOS Marcel 12145 Gnus I don't think too many people here will have trouble with those results. I am inclined to think you have a bug... I cannot believe ALL those mutts but ZERO occurrences of elm and pine. Stan
Mutt an multiple mailboxes
Hi! I've a wish how mutt should handle my mails and I don't know how to realize this. I'm subscribed in several mailinglists and so my mbox grow's up. One solution is to use procmail - but now my wish: I want to get *every* new mail into /var/spool/mail/lordbyte. So this does my MTA. Now I want to start mutt and read all my new eMails an set flags like read to my mails. Now - when I quit mutt, I want the mails to be sorted in mailfolders. One idea was to define my mbox to smth. like | formail -s procmail \ /var/spool/mail/lordbyte. But this doesn't work. A second Idea was to define a macro wich sould do this job, but if I move mails with procmail mutt looses the flags. So - is in mutt any possibility to sort mails automatically? (I know save-hooks - but then I have to push s return for every mail. Thanks! Markus -- .o--=[ eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]=-=[ internet: www.ce-terra.de ]=o.
Re: send-hook to parse entry out of subject line and dump into CC field?
David,
I thought I was on the right path with what you'd given me, regrettably,
I've not found a way to make this work.
When using Mutt, I Use emacs as the editor and mutt then creates an
ascii attachment from a file located in /tmp. I realized that I could
use the 'F' option to filter this tmpfile through a perl script or
something of that nature.
Regrettably, it seems that mutt chooses NOT to touch the headers -
even when edit_headers=yes. Here was my test.
I created 'hm.pl' which looks like:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
while (STDIN){
chomp;
print --$_\n;
}
With the ultimate goal of adding something like
if (/Subject/){$user_to_cc=s/stuff//; $_=Cc:$user_to_cc\n;print;}
So hm.pl was a preliminary test of manipulation.
So here's a reply I passed through it:
--
To: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Bcc:
Subject: Re: send-hook to parse entry out of subject line and dump into CC field?
Reply-To:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from davidtg-muttusers@justpickon\
e.org on Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:58:41PM -0500
snipped X-headers
X-Work-Focuses: Email Server Maint. Routing, Cisco Linux
--Let's show David T-G what it looks like thru ./hm.pl
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--On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:58:41PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
--Steven --
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As you can see, the filter operation worked ONLY on the non-header data.
Possible solutions:
1. Find out the name of the /tmp/file (is it in a variable?) and then
execute some | command to insert the appropriate cc line into the
text.
I don't think this will work though. If there's still the
'header' versus 'ascii attachment [i.e. content] bifurcation,
having the ability to write to that text file isn't
going to affect the headers.
2. Find a way to access the headers themselves?
-
BUT!!! I don't understand why this is. Even as I type this message to
you, emacs tells me your message is /tmp/mutt-stharms-lnx-20706-83.
If i run cat on that in another X-term i see:
From: Steven G. Harms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bcc:
The header info in there plain as day. I guess when you terminate
the editor, mutt must move the 'header' content from the editor's
temp file into the 'header' and then leave the body as the
text attachment. This, of course, being the only thing operated
upon by the 'F' option.
Anyway, it appears I'm at an impasse. Anyone out there have any
ideas?
Steven
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:58:41PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
Steven --
...and then Steven G. Harms said...
% Regrettably not, i'm talking IMAP to my server..
Ah. That makes it a little trickier.
%
% Is it possible to to maybe pipe that to a little shell scrp that
% could parse the right field, and then pump that back INTO mutt
% in the CC field???
At this point I'd probably ensure that edit_headers is turned on so that
you get the whole shebang and use sed (or awk) to capture the subject
line and spit out a cc: line (you can just tack that onto the headers as
an additional line; mutt will handle it) and then dive into your editor
as usual.
Hmmm... Actually, $editor will be handed the name of an existing file,
so you might want to do this in perl where you can write back to the
file easily.
%
% Anyone?
Have fun :-) Post your results, too!
%
% steven
:-D
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Re: Backspace in the pager
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:42:18PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:17:56AM -0700, Sean LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 06:45:57AM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: I added the 2 following lines to my .muttrc: bind pager \ch previous-line bind pager \c? previous-line [...] Hmmm. I tried this, still no workie. I also tried some variations on the theme, like \Ch, \C?, ^h, ^? and a few others I can't recall right now. I just checked it, I need the two lines only when working within putty, at the console mutt is working perfectly without them. Where do you start mutt from (putty, xterm, console,...)? Is the $TERM set correctly? Nicolas Good call. Normally it is set to vt320, but I had been trying some different ones previously in attempts to get it to work. Once I set it back to vt320, it works. BTW, I use putty most of the time, other times I port forward via tera term's ssh plugin, and use something like xterm. Do you use putty often? I haven't been able to get color to work in it. Color does work in rxvt, so I don't think it's my .muttrc, per se. -- - Sean LeBlanc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop corporate welfare. Repeal the H1-B program now: http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/ Auctioning many Linux, Java, NT, SilverStream books: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=tparkin
Re: Mutt an multiple mailboxes
Hi, * Markus Boelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-15 17:38]: Now - when I quit mutt, I want the mails to be sorted in mailfolders. What about this: Let Procmail copy every mail, delete them from your inbox after you read them. Net result: Empty inbox, sorted mail. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: MUA statistics
Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: I've taken the script, added recognition of Pine, and subscribed all suse mailinglists to one testaccount, and most (all but cvs-all and similar) FreeBSD Mailinglists to another. also note that if you build pine on freebsd from the ports (at least the most recent one, for 4.40) it takes out the BSF(version) part of the messageid header. the 4.40 binary from uw didn't work on my (4.4) system. what happens if you apply this to non-mailing list mail? i'd imagine that most of the 'normal' people you correspond with don't use mutt (well unless you're the biggest geek i've ever met). i was surprised to see ONE other mutt user on a music related mailing list i'm on and i'd be very surprised to see one of my parents, my little brother, or any of the non-computer oriented people i know, start using mutt! w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: Backspace in the pager
Sean LeBlanc wrote: Good call. Normally it is set to vt320, but I had been trying some different ones previously in attempts to get it to work. Once I set it back to vt320, it works. BTW, I use putty most of the time, other times I port forward via tera term's ssh plugin, and use something like xterm. Do you use putty often? I haven't been able to get color to work in it. Color does work in rxvt, so I don't think it's my .muttrc, per se. it works for me, although for some reason if i have $TERM set to xterm i get weird gaps in the display (maybe my terminfo settings). xterm-color (sorry thomas) works perfectly most of the time with putty for me. i'd suggest messing around with your $TERM settings... but mutt can definitely work with color in putty. i have weird colors setup in Eterm, so i call mutt with a wrapper script asking if i want light, dark, normal (weird), or no color helpful when checking remotely or from console. i think terraterm might look a little better than putty, but it doesn't support v2 AFAIK so i've stuck to putty pretty much (secureCRT once in a while but i don't care for that either) when on 'doze boxes. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: MUA statistics
* Stan Ryckman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Nov 2001 16:28]: iain truskett wrote: [snip] So, a quick analysis of the stats produces: 1 2182Mutt 2 1756Microsoft Outlook Express [...] I don't think too many people here will have trouble with those results. I am inclined to think you have a bug... I cannot believe ALL those mutts but ZERO occurrences of elm and pine. The mutts because i'm on assorted techy lists, where mutt has a fairly high prevalence. No pines because I didn't add a bit to the code to check the message-id for a MUA. cheers, -- iain. http://eh.org/~koschei/
Re: Unwanted read-only
Phil -- ...and then Phil Stracchino said... % % I have a puzzle Those are always fun! % % I have mutt-1.2.5i installed as the recommended mail client on my system. % Compile options are: ... % -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK ... Where is mutt_dotlock? Can she see it? Can she run it? % % I set up two accounts for a new user yesterday. Mutt insists on opening % her mailboxes read-only. Even if I, as root, su to her account and % explicitly run /usr/local/bin/mutt to make totally certain I'm not hitting What if you copy /var/spool/mail/user to /tmp/user and then try mutt on that folder? Odds are that it will open just fine. % an alias, with read_only explicitly set to no in .muttrc, the mailbox is % still opened read-only. File ownership and permissions on the mailbox and % on /var/spool/mail are correct. Although that may be so, it doesn't tell us what they are. Could you please show us what ls -lFda /var/spool/mail `which mutt` `which mutt_dotlock` gives you? % % % Any ideas? Diagnostic tips? I'm baffled. HTH HAND % % % -- % * Fight Back! It may not be just YOUR life at risk. * % phil stracchino :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % unix ronin renaissance man mystic zen biker geek % 2000 CBR929RR, 1991 VFR750F3 (foully murdered), 1986 VF500F (sold) %Linux Now! ...because friends don't let friends use Microsoft. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20483/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Backspace in the pager
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:58:13AM -0700, Sean LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I use putty most of the time, other times I port forward via tera term's ssh plugin, and use something like xterm. Do you use putty often? I haven't been able to get color to work in it. Color does work in rxvt, so I don't think it's my .muttrc, per se. I use PuTTY most of the time to read my mail, because I'm sitting in front of m$windows. Colors are working perfectly here, try setting TERM=xterm-color. I use an own termcap entry named putty: putty:@7=\E[4~:kh=\E[1~:kD=\E[3~:tc=xterm-color: Don't forget to use cap_mkdb when you changed your termcap. (Perhaps one of the other xterm-* entries works better, but I don't know) Nicolas
Re: Backspace in the pager
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:11:49AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: get weird gaps in the display (maybe my terminfo settings). xterm-color (sorry thomas) works perfectly most of the time with putty for me. i'd ^^ -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Backspace in the pager
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:34:52PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:58:13AM -0700, Sean LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I use putty most of the time, other times I port forward via tera term's ssh plugin, and use something like xterm. Do you use putty often? I haven't been able to get color to work in it. Color does work in rxvt, so I don't think it's my .muttrc, per se. I use PuTTY most of the time to read my mail, because I'm sitting in front of m$windows. oddly enough, I'm more likely to use PuTTY when reading email - with pine. (pine doesn't do a good job with PuTTY's colors, btw). Colors are working perfectly here, try setting TERM=xterm-color. I use an own termcap entry named putty: putty:@7=\E[4~:kh=\E[1~:kD=\E[3~:tc=xterm-color: Don't forget to use cap_mkdb when you changed your termcap. (Perhaps one of the other xterm-* entries works better, but I don't know) PuTTY has a number of configure options to change function-keys, etc., (and can set $TERM correspondingly, but unfortunately its authors didn't bother relating the two). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
mutt on freebsd
Hi i am new mutt user, I have an offline machine, i just want to fetch my email from an imap/pop server, i have already modified the values, pop_user and pop_pass and i would like to know what else should i do? how can i tell mutt to check my remote email?, thanks for help,
Re: mutt on freebsd
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 05:27:28PM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote: Hi i am new mutt user, I have an offline machine, i just want to fetch my email from an imap/pop server, i have already modified the values, pop_user and pop_pass and i would like to know what else should i do? how can i tell mutt to check my remote email?, thanks for help, I hit the 'G' key. It's been a few months since I set mutt up. I think you've done everything necessary, but I don't remember for sure. Try it and see if it works. Mutt can fetch mail, but you will need a seperate MTA to transfer outgoing mail to a mail server. Have you picked one out? Bob Hall -- Know thyself? Absurd direction! Bubbles bear no introspection.-Khushhal Khan Khatak
Deleting an attachment before sending?
Is there a way to delete an attachment that one accidentally added? I noticed this when I was attaching some files for a message. I accidentally selected one, but couldn't figure out how to remove it. I ended up cancelling the message, and then re-composing the message, making sure not to select that file the second time -- - Sean LeBlanc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop corporate welfare. Repeal the H1-B program now: http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/ Auctioning many Linux, Java, NT, SilverStream books: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=tparkin IM me: Yahoo: seanleblancathome ICQ: 138565743 MSN: seanleblancathome AIM: sleblancathome
Cancelling an action?
Right now, if I get into an action that needs some input at the bottom, and I didn't intend this action in the first place, I'm just hitting Ctrl-C and then selecting n (to not exit mutt). Is this standard procedure, or is there a better way to do this? TIA, -- - Sean LeBlanc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop corporate welfare. Repeal the H1-B program now: http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/ Auctioning many Linux, Java, NT, SilverStream books: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=tparkin IM me: Yahoo: seanleblancathome ICQ: 138565743 MSN: seanleblancathome AIM: sleblancathome
Re: Deleting an attachment before sending?
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001, Sean LeBlanc wrote: Is there a way to delete an attachment that one accidentally added? I noticed this when I was attaching some files for a message. I accidentally selected one, but couldn't figure out how to remove it. I ended up cancelling the message, and then re-composing the message, making sure not to select that file the second time Yeah, 'D' for 'detach'. It's right in the Compose help menu. -Ken
Re: Cancelling an action?
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001, Sean LeBlanc wrote: Right now, if I get into an action that needs some input at the bottom, and I didn't intend this action in the first place, I'm just hitting Ctrl-C and then selecting n (to not exit mutt). Is this standard procedure, or is there a better way to do this? Ctrl-G. Cancels any action in mutt. It's a beautiful thing. :) -Ken
