Re: problems with text wrappin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Knute declared Hi everyone. Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? Did you set Outhouse to do just a carriage return or a carriage return and a line feed? No idea, I just went into where it let you set the wrap width and changed it from 76 to 72. Lot's of Lookout! users messages appear to be all one line to me but they swear blind they're not. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8W8qeHpvrrTa6L5oRAq32AKCVS6G8wUWawYULivKEd4oI12o3RACbBoh+ i/00hUdoDUN72fiDjXl0tKI= =N7op -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: fetchmail to MTA to procmail (WAS Re: folders ?)
Hi, On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 Jeremy Blosser spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] You're missing the point. fetchmail is not involved when you use Mutt's built in POP fetch-mail function, even though the names are similar. That function just brings the mail directly into the folders, it bypasses the system's normal MTA/MDA system entirely. Oops. My bad. I didn't read the original post properly. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envy, n.: Wishing you'd been born with an unfair advantage, instead of having to try and acquire one. msg24124/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
BUG?, was too stupid for IMAP?
Am 23.01.2002 um 14:14:21 +0100 schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt folgendes:
I think I'm too stupid for IMAP:
Whenerver I open an IMAP mailbox, I press:
c and then enter {username:password@localhost} and press return
This works oK. But when I change to another folder, e.g.
$HOME/Maildir/inbox and then want to go back to
{username:password@localhost}, this doesn't work.
When I open an IMAP mailbox locally on the machine, I use:
imap://user:pass@localhost/
nevertheless, mutt is connecting in TLS/SSL mode.
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Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How would you rate our government's incompetence?
Typical unix response: Unmatched .
Re: mutt and NFS
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, David T-G wrote: % Can you clarify what sort of funkiness is going on? Is it just 'N'ew % folder flagging? Does it resolve itself within a second or two? Are % your client and server clocks in sync? Have you used ls to check the % atime and mtime of a suspicious folder? % % Really it's only sometimes, and seems to be the last folder I was in, % or at least the last one modified. After changing folders, it will % tell me a few times that there is new mail in that folder, but when I Hmmm... % change to it, there is no new mail. And nothing in my procmail log. % Seems to go away after a while. Not sure about clocks. I'd check the times, then. Log in on the server and check the date and then, as simultaneously as possible, check the date on your workstation. If they're more than a second or so off, you can have problems (and everyone running make in your organization can get funky results, too). % % % -Ken HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24126/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and NFS
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote: % % check your system time. See? :-) % % Could it be that the box is in Portland, OR, and I am in NYC, so I set % my TZ env variable to EST? Nah; time zones won't matter, as long as they're correct. If your computer thinks it's three in New York (EST5EDT) and your server thinks it's noon in Portland (PST8PDT), you're fine. Check the times and make sure the seconds and minutes match up. % % -Ken :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24127/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and NFS
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, Knute wrote: % Don't know about that, but I do have an idea. % Do you know if the box in Portland is using GMT or not? % % I don't. What will tell me that? 'date' says PST. That's good enough. You could also check for TZ in /etc/profile, and I think there's another place on a Linux box where the timezone is set. % % If it is, then you can set yours to GMT as well, then they should be in % sync. % Either that or have mutt change the TZ variable to West Coast time % (Don't know the abreviation.) % % Hmmm. I removed my TZ env variable and will see if things clear up. % So what is the best way to have all my stuff set to EST/GMT-5 that % mutt will deal with? Don't worry about the time zone on your server; if you can ls -l and get correct-looking output (files just touched are not hours off or in the future), things are fine. You can put your TZ back; I use my own TZ var on my server on the East Coast so that whenever I land in a new city my times are correct (I got tired of sending mail at 0400 when I was really only up until one :-) % % -Ken Speaking of landing in a new city, does anyone need a hot SysAdmin? I'm on the market again... Ken, perhaps you should forward my address to your IT department ;-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24128/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
Knute -- ...and then Knute said... % % On Sat, 02 Feb 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: % % My understanding is that M$ environments see a carriage return and a % line feed as the same things, where as a *nix environment sees them as % 2 separate entities. % % If I am mistaken in this, I welcome feedback. 8o) I can't say whether or not you're mistaken, since I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but: - *NIX/Linux use LF to indicate a return and line break - DOS variants use CR and LF to indicate a return and line break - Mac OS (dunno about OS X) uss CR to indicate a return and line break In addition, I'll bet a Twinkie that LookOut! doesn't know a darned thing about choosing CR/LF or LF. % % -- % Knute % % You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! % -- Clarence :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24129/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % Hi everyone. % Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail % from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars % % Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? I admit that this is confusing. I don't have a good answer. % % What gives? Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and forwards use plain text. % - -- % % Nick Wilson HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24130/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David T-G declared Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and forwards use plain text. Thanks, it really is a pile of, huh? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8XBZcHpvrrTa6L5oRAkg7AKCuVC1lGmeVZFXNHAoH4WLPKNVv3gCeOjk1 3y2Jr2dL3SXHs+SKe8y9vww= =Pt59 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: problems with text wrappin?
On Sat, 02 Feb 2002, David T-G wrote: Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % Hi everyone. % Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail % from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars % % Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? I admit that this is confusing. I don't have a good answer. % What gives? Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and forwards use plain text. Another thing to check would be to make sure that it isn't using the rtf format (Rich Text Format). It shows up as text for all intents and purposes, but the characters used for linebreaks and such somewhat resemble the html br format. And I think to turn that off is a check box that is burried deep in the menus somewhere. I'll look here in a bit when I have to reboot to windows so that my kids can play their games. 8o) Knute msg24132/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
Nick, et al -- ...and then Knute said... % % On Sat, 02 Feb 2002, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Nick Wilson said... ... % % What gives? % % Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even % though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, % really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off % any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and % forwards use plain text. % % Another thing to check would be to make sure that it isn't using the rtf % format (Rich Text Format). It shows up as text for all intents and Exactly. % purposes, but the characters used for linebreaks and such somewhat % resemble the html br format. And I think to turn that off is a check Right; it gives you all of that word processor stuff like bold and italics and so on without all of the weight of the word processor's format -- and it's portable across different ones. % box that is burried deep in the menus somewhere. I'll look here in a % bit when I have to reboot to windows so that my kids can play their % games. 8o) *grin* % % Knute :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24133/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Sorceforge bouncing mail: Create Postmaster Account ??
I have the impression that this is unsolvable. In any case, if I attempt to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get this message: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550-Envelope sender verification failed) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mail.sourceforge.net.: DATA 550-Envelope sender verification failed 550 rejected: there is no valid sender in any header line (envelope sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Your mail server returned: +Response from mx1.optonline.net [167.206.5.6] was 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when checking for existence+of a postmaster mailbox. RFC 822 section 6.3 (which you have to abide by if you send and receive Email) states that you are required to have+a postmaster mailbox that is routed to the person responsible for mail (http://www.rfc822.com/). We need to be able to contact you at the +postmaster address to resolve potential problems if need be before we can accept your mail. Please create a postmaster account at your site.554 5.0.0 Service unavailable My .muttrc includes: set envelope_from=yes set use_from=yes my_hdr From: John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] The From above is my true address at optonline. I'm completely baffled on this one. -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Getting start with Mutt and IMAP
I'm trying to get moved over to mutt. I've had it with Pine roles,
it's driving me nuts.
IMAP implementation has me a bit confused. I have 3 IMAP mailboxes,
on 3 diferent servers. If I understand the docs correctly, I can
switch between them using the 'c' command inside Mutt. Typing out
the imap://servername/INBOX isn't working though.
The documentation talks about commands available. They don't
appear to work in the Muttrc file. (Assume, for simplicity, it's a
single user system and I'm making configs in the master Muttrc file)
I've tried both mailboxes and account-hook. The only thing that
worked was spoolfile in {server}INBOX format, but not in
imap://server/INBOX format. However, that assumes only one IMAP
box.
Can someone straighten me out here? The documentation talks about
initialization files. These are somehow different than RC files?
The Mutt and IMAP document tends to gloss over these details.
E.g.
1.1 To point mutt to an IMAP mailbox, write your mailbox in IMAP
URL format:
imap://hostname/mailbox
Write it? Write it where? :) rc file? (didn't work, maybe was
using wrong parameter) initialization file? commandline? (didn't
work with -f)
I'm just missing some mental building blocks that the docs don't
cover.
--
William Guynes
Re: Sorceforge bouncing mail: Create Postmaster Account ??
On Feb 02, John P Verel [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I have the impression that this is unsolvable. In any case, if I attempt to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get this message: This has nothing to do with mutt. Create (or get your admins to create) a postmaster address for this domain, as is indeed required by RFC 822. msg24136/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting start with Mutt and IMAP
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:53:55AM -0600, William Guynes wrote: I'm trying to get moved over to mutt. I've had it with Pine roles, it's driving me nuts. IMAP implementation has me a bit confused. I have 3 IMAP mailboxes, on 3 diferent servers. If I understand the docs correctly, I can switch between them using the 'c' command inside Mutt. Typing out the imap://servername/INBOX isn't working though. try imap://YourName:YourPass@servername/INBOX or . imap://YourName@servername/INBOX and your password will be requested This will access directly on the host computer your IMAP mail directory as if it was on your local directry. at lease, it worx fer me! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
timeout/mail_check doesn't always work?
I have the following lines in my .muttrc file: set mail_check=5 # check for new mail every 5 seconds set timeout=10 # if no keypress in 10 seconds, check for new mail It doesn't seem to work correctly always, though. What's been happening is that I run screen and I leave multiple instances of mutt open in different folders. I'm inside the mutt that reads ~/Maildir/. I save a message into the =done folder. 10 minutes later, I switch to the mutt in the =done folder but it doesn't show the message that I just saved until I press a key. Any idea why?
Re: mutt and NFS
On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote: I'd check the times, then. Log in on the server and check the date and then, as simultaneously as possible, check the date on your workstation. If they're more than a second or so off, you can have problems (and everyone running make in your organization can get funky results, too). I ssh to that server. But I emailed my friend who runs it. He said that the servers run ntp and are synced to within a second. Any other ideas? I haven't seen it last night, though. And btw, when it was happening, touching said mailbox file make the Inc:1 disappear. -Ken
Re: mutt and NFS
On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote: Speaking of landing in a new city, does anyone need a hot SysAdmin? I'm on the market again... Ken, perhaps you should forward my address to your IT department ;-) What the one of my former employer? I'll send your resume to the NYS Dept. of Unemployment, where my current paychecks come from. :( -Ken
send-hook fails on alias addresses
send-hook '~t my@address\.com' 'unmy_hdr bcc' This hook fails, when I use an alias like: alias my [EMAIL PROTECTED] autoedit is not set. Another hook to recognize the address before using the alias does not help either: send-hook '~t ^my$' 'unmy_hdr bcc' Solutions? Bye, Steffen --
