Re: Evolution alias import?
On 19/02/02 20:46, Jonathan Watterson wrote: Thing is, I've got some contacts listed with Evolution. Is there an easy way to translate these contacts to Mutt's alias file, or will I need to start over? Evolution's contact list seems to be in vcard format. I'm not sure if this will help, but there is a program called 'abook' (I guess http://abook.sourceforge.net), which is intended to use with mutt and which can import and export from/to many (well not so many) formats. If there will not be vCard, maybe there will be different one to which Evolution is able to export... Check it out. Radek -- +--+ | Radek Spacil, research assistant,| | WLan project, Telecommunication laboratory | | Lappeenranta University of Technology| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | www: http://www.lut.fi/~spacil/ | | icq: 56361517 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+
Re: Evolution alias import?
On Thu Feb 21, 2002 at 01:27:28PM +0200, Radek Spacil wrote:
If there will not be vCard, maybe there will be different one
to which Evolution is able to export...
There is a 'vcard2abook' perl script which I /believe/ comes with
abook (in contrib/ in the tarball). It's attached below in case it
doesn't come with abook.
Note: I have _never_used_it_, and don't
know what'll happen if you try it.
--
Martin Karlsson
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
my $timestamp= Time-stamp: \vcard2abook.pl was last updated on Sun, 17 Dec 2000
10:34am\;
#==*
# vcard2abook.pl by jeff covey [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
# *
# this script has two main features: *
# *
# 1. it converts a file containing addressbook entries in vcard format to*
# one containing entries in abook format. *
# 2. it almost has more comments than code. *
# *
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify *
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by *
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or *
# (at your option) any later version.*
# *
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,*
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of *
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the *
# GNU General Public License for more details. *
# *
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License *
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software*
# Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. *
#==*
use strict;
($#ARGV = 1) or die
usage: vcard2abook.pl vcard input file abook output file\noutput file will be
overwritten!\n;
my $vcards=$ARGV[0];
my $abook =$ARGV[1];
my $key;
my %conversions = (
FN = name=,
NICKNAME = nick=,
EMAIL = email=,
ORG= notes=,
NOTE = notes=,
URL= url=,
TEL;HOME = phone=,
TEL;PREF = phone=,
TEL;VOICE = phone=,
TEL;MSG= phone=,
TEL;VIDEO = phone=,
TEL;MODEM = phone=,
TEL;ISDN = phone=,
TEL;WORK = workphone=,
TEL;CELL = mobile=,
TEL;PAGER = mobile=,
TEL;CAR= mobile=,
TEL;FAX= fax=,
);
open (VCARDS,$vcards) or quit(couldn't open $vcards);
open (ABOOK,$abook) or quit(couldn't open $abook for writing);
while (VCARDS) {
if(/^\s*$/) { }
elsif (/^BEGIN:VCARD/i) { print ABOOK []\n; }
elsif (/^END:VCARD/i) { print ABOOK \n; }
else {
chomp; my @sections=split /:/, $_, 2;
if ($sections[0] =~ /^ADR/i) {
my @fields=split /;/, $sections[1];
if ($fields[2]) {print ABOOK address=$fields[2]\n;}
if ($fields[3]) {print ABOOK city=$fields[3]\n; }
if ($fields[4]) {print ABOOK state=$fields[4]\n; }
if ($fields[5]) {print ABOOK zip=$fields[5]\n;}
if ($fields[6]) {print ABOOK country=$fields[6]\n;}
}
else {
foreach $key (keys %conversions) {
if ($sections[0] =~ /^$key/i) {
print ABOOK $conversions{$key}$sections[1]\n;
}
}
}
}
}
close (VCARDS) or quit(couldn't close $vcards);
close (ABOOK) or quit(couldn't close $abook);
sub quit {
print whoops! $_[0]:\n $!\n; die;
}
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Selecting messages in my threads
Hi. In large mailinglists, I sometimes want to limit the messages to only these messages which are part of thread in which I've written something. Is it somehow possible to comeup with a limit criteria which will do that? The criteria should not only list those messages which are replies to my message, but also the messages to which I replied. Thanks for your help, Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 hours 1 minute
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:19:51PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: In large mailinglists, I sometimes want to limit the messages to only these messages which are part of thread in which I've written something. Is it somehow possible to comeup with a limit criteria which will do that? The criteria should not only list those messages which are replies to my message, but also the messages to which I replied. Alexander, Pattern matching will do just that for you. Look on the mutt manual for: ~p Message addressed to you ~b Message contains EXPR in the body ~C Message is either To: or Cc: EXPR ~x Message contains EXPR on 'References:' You may want to create a macro the includes the above commands. I hope this helps. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details. msg24631/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
»David Collantes« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 08:50:10 -0500 : Alexander, Pattern matching will do just that for you. Look on the mutt manual for: ~p Message addressed to you ~b Message contains EXPR in the body ~C Message is either To: or Cc: EXPR ~x Message contains EXPR on 'References:' You may want to create a macro the includes the above commands. I hope this helps. Hmm, but how to do this? Sometimes, messages don't contain my message-id in the References, aren't To: or Cc: me (eg. a message far down in the thread), but mutt will still show that it belongs to a given thread. And how could I select messages with the patterns you just mentioned to which *I* replied? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 7 hours 10 minutes
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
On Thu 21-Feb-2002 at 03:28:48PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hmm, but how to do this? Sometimes, messages don't contain my message-id in the References, aren't To: or Cc: me (eg. a message far down in the thread), but mutt will still show that it belongs to a given thread. You can't with the current 'limit' command. A context-limit ability (like grep -C) would be a useful refinement to mutt though. In fact, most of the time I use 'limit' I would prefer to use a more general context-with-threads-limit than the current behaviour. I often find myself limiting to a pattern, picking a message, showing everything to see the thread, limiting again, picking a message etc.. -- Bruno
spoolfile when using imap
What do I have to set my spoolfile to when using imap? Manuel -- To some of us, reading the manual is conceding defeat. -Jason Q.
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:28:48PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: [... SNIP ...] ~C Message is either To: or Cc: EXPR ~x Message contains EXPR on 'References:' You may want to create a macro the includes the above commands. I hope this helps. Hmm, but how to do this? Sometimes, messages don't contain my message-id in the References, aren't To: or Cc: me (eg. a message far down in the thread), but mutt will still show that it belongs to a given thread. [... SNIP ...] Hmm here too... you got me on that one. If they belong to a given thread I see not way to make them look different. By using pattern matching you could highlight the ones that match the previously mentioned patterns, but you can not 'take' them out of the thread. Let me play a bit with it and, if I get something concrete, I will get back to you, and the list. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details. msg24635/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Form Letters on Mutt
Hi there! How can I create form letters on Mutt? Is that implemented? I have looked around but found nothing. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. msg24636/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:52:57PM +, Bruno Postle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu 21-Feb-2002 at 03:28:48PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hmm, but how to do this? Sometimes, messages don't contain my message-id in the References, aren't To: or Cc: me (eg. a message far down in the thread), but mutt will still show that it belongs to a given thread. You can't with the current 'limit' command. A context-limit ability (like grep -C) would be a useful refinement to mutt though. In fact, most of the time I use 'limit' I would prefer to use a more general context-with-threads-limit than the current behaviour. I often find myself limiting to a pattern, picking a message, showing everything to see the thread, limiting again, picking a message etc.. Hmm, maybe a tag-pattern-threads and a limit-pattern-threads command? Sounds useful to me, and relatively easy to implement. As it is, I usually limit, and do tag-thread on each visible message, and then limit to tagged, which works but is kind of a pain. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: Offline SPAM-filter with mutt?
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Marco Fioretti wrote: Hello, Hi ! I've been following this discussion with great interest, and looked (very shortly, I confess) to the tools that were mentioned. I have the impression that they require you to be online to work. Do they still work if you dial up, run fetchmail and hang off immediately via scripts? Take a look at mailfilter.sourceforge.net. It can be called from within fetchmail and best of all, it deletes spam *on the server* so you don't need to download it at all. I had it set up and working in less than 15 mins. It's a 150 kb download. Get version 0.3.2 though it is devlopment version, it works like a charm. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Mumbai, India.
Re: Colorizing collapsed threads with new messages
At 11:54 PM EST on February 20 Andre Berger sent off: * Knute [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-02-20 23:49 -0500: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rob Reid wrote: At 9:49 PM EST on February 20 Andre Berger sent off: Is it possible to colorize the parent message of a collapsed thread if the thread contains new messages? (color preferred: magenta) This is just a guess until some new mail comes in, and I haven't checked the manual but here goes: Put color index magenta ~N or whatever the correct line is for coloring new messages in your .muttrc *after* the thread coloring line. Sorry, I don't understand... Could you please give an example of a thread coloring line? From my ~/.muttrc: # collapsed threads color index brightgreendefault ~v color tree brightgreendefault If you also: unset collapse_unread #Don't collapse threads w/unread mail folder-hook . 'push \eV' #Collapse all threads when entering folder What will happen is that only threads with new mail will be uncollapsed threads will stand out. And the color thing above would make it magenta, but needs to be: color index magenta default ~N (Background color wwas missing.) HTH No, I'm subscribed to some high-traffic mailing lists and would like to set collapse_threads. What he was suggesting (which was so excellent that I forgot that it might not be a default) doesn't interfere with that. I suggest using folder-hooks to set collapse_unread on those lists and folder-hook . 'unset collapse_unread' to take care of everything else, assuming you've done the sanity-preserving thing and procmailed those high traffic lists into their own folders: # Sort away mails from the mutt (mail user agent) mailing list :0: * ^TOmutt-users@ muttin # ;-) -- There are two kinds of egotists: 1) those who admit it, and 2) the rest of us. - fortune Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: spoolfile when using imap
On 21/02/02 15:55, Manuel Hendel wrote: What do I have to set my spoolfile to when using imap? set spoolfile = imap://imap.somewhere.org/inbox or INBOX (not sure if it matters). Change server address as you need. Beside this you maybe will want to set up: set folder = imap://imap.somewhere.org/Mail Instead of 'Mail' there can be e.g. 'list' - it depends of imap server. This option will cause mutt to look for another folders in this directory (when reffering via = or +). Check also option 'imap_home_namespace'. set record=imap://imap.somewhere.org/Mail/sent This will cause mutt to copy all outgoing messages into this folder. Check also other options starting 'imap_*' in muttrc manpage for tuning mutt with imap. Hope this helps, Radek -- +--+ | Radek Spacil, research assistant,| | WLan project, Telecommunication laboratory | | Lappeenranta University of Technology| | www: http://www.lut.fi/~spacil/ | +--+ msg24640/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Selecting messages in my threads
On Feb 21, Daniel Eisenbud [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:52:57PM +, Bruno Postle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu 21-Feb-2002 at 03:28:48PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hmm, but how to do this? Sometimes, messages don't contain my message-id in the References, aren't To: or Cc: me (eg. a message far down in the thread), but mutt will still show that it belongs to a given thread. You can't with the current 'limit' command. A context-limit ability (like grep -C) would be a useful refinement to mutt though. In fact, most of the time I use 'limit' I would prefer to use a more general context-with-threads-limit than the current behaviour. I often find myself limiting to a pattern, picking a message, showing everything to see the thread, limiting again, picking a message etc.. Hmm, maybe a tag-pattern-threads and a limit-pattern-threads command? I think some pattern matching modifiers would be more general purpose: - one for 'all messages in the same thread as a message that matches this pattern' - one for 'parent message of the thread of a message that matches this pattern' - one for 'all children of a message that matches this pattern' These can all be used for tag-pattern and limit-pattern, but also for colors, etc. I guess there aren't actually any pattern match modifiers in the real source, but there are several patches to add these, and they are useful. There's even one that already does the last one above, but the other two are the ones I usually want, especially the first; it'd be nice to be able to view threads while they are collapsed and still see that a thread had a flagged message, or color it when it contains new messages (it does get the small 'n' but colors are easier to see, esp when other new messages are colored). The kind of thing mentioned in http://bugs.guug.de/db/40/408.html seems really useful to me, but I'd rather see it based on pattern matching. Sounds useful to me, and relatively easy to implement. As it is, I usually limit, and do tag-thread on each visible message, and then limit to tagged, which works but is kind of a pain. It also is odd to me it works... you can affect messages you can't actually see using tag-thread, but not otherwise? (The one that always bites me is when I enter a big mailbox with threads collapsed by default, read the stuff I want, then try to do delete-pattern~N without uncollapsing threads first.) msg24641/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Reply quoting an unwrapped message
When I reply to a message that was composed without line wrapping (i.e. each paragraph is one long line), how can I make mutt wrap it before inserting ? e.g. instead of: You know I have a question...is anyone else besides me and Erica looking at these vids? Just checking, because if no one on here wants review board duty then let me know and I won't throw them in your face anymore ;p I'd like to see: You know I have a question...is anyone else besides me and Erica looking at these vids? Just checking, because if no one on here wants review board duty then let me know and I won't throw them in your face anymore ;p
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:36:27PM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: When I reply to a message that was composed without line wrapping (i.e. each paragraph is one long line), how can I make mutt wrap it before inserting ? e.g. instead of: [.. A long line snipped ...] It is not up to Mutt, but the editor you are using. I believe 'vi' will allow you to do that, but 'nano' or 'pico' will not. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida Sometimes one pays most for the things one gets for nothing. msg24643/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 at 13:47:10 -0500, Philip Mak wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:20:03PM -0500, David Collantes wrote: When I reply to a message that was composed without line wrapping (i.e. each paragraph is one long line), how can I make mutt wrap it before inserting ? e.g. instead of: [.. A long line snipped ...] It is not up to Mutt, but the editor you are using. I believe 'vi' will allow you to do that, but 'nano' or 'pico' will not. I would have thought that mutt would be able to wrap the lines before passing the message to 'vi'. I suppose I could code some sort of startup code in 'vi' to find and wrap long lines, but how would I make it only trigger when 'vi' is being started on composing a new reply (and not any other time, e.g. editing an existing message)? You can use gq} (at least in vim...). That will wrap a paragraph, however, with quoted text (i.e., no spaces between each set of quote characters) it will wrap the entire message. gqG does the entire message. I also have the following map in my .vimrc which does the same, but stops at sig lines: omap F /^-- /CR You can then use gqF to wrap up until the sig lines. - jim -- jim mock [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soupnazi.org/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
On Thu Feb 21, 2002 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: I suppose I could code some sort of startup code in 'vi' to find and wrap long lines, but how would I make it only trigger when 'vi' is being started on composing a new reply (and not any other time, e.g. editing an existing message)? Bruno Postle posted a reply for a similar question some time ago, for use with vim: # F10 reflows the current paragraph and F11 toggles indenting so # paste works properly. set editor=vim \ -c 'set tw=72 et' \ -c 'set autoindent' \ -c 'set formatoptions=tcq2' \ -c 'set syntax=mail' \ -c 'map F10 gqap' \ -c 'set pastetoggle=F11' Place the cursor anywhere convenient in the long line, press $ to get to the end of it, and then F10. I'm *very* happy with it. HTH -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info msg24645/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
I suppose I could code some sort of startup code in 'vi' to find and wrap long lines, but how would I make it only trigger when 'vi' is being started on composing a new reply (and not any other time, e.g. editing an existing message)? In my case, i just set up an emacs macro to reformat a quoted paragraph and then put the cursor right after it, ready to reformat the next one.. so on the rare occasions that i'm replying to a message with a long line, i just tap the macro shortcut a few times and all the paragraphs i want to rewrap are done. I originally made it automatic, but i found that it would often end up rewrapping stuff that i would have wanted it to leave alone. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg24646/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
tagging and copying/saving
hi. i finally switched from Elm to Mutt a few days ago. one thing i haven't been able to find in the FAQs is the following: in Elm, i could tag numerous emails and then group copy or save them to a folder. when i try this in Mutt, only the currently selected email gets appended to the specified folder. am i missing something obvious? how is this normally achieved in Mutt? one other question. is there a way to enable wildcards in order to get a subset menu of one's entire folder list (e.g. change to =myJunk_*)? another elmism i can live without... but don't wanna! thanks. --fred
Re: tagging and copying/saving
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:02:36PM -0600, Fred Dech wrote: in Elm, i could tag numerous emails and then group copy or save them to a folder. when i try this in Mutt, only the currently selected email gets appended to the specified folder. After tagging, press ; then the command you want to apply to the tagged messages. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue. msg24648/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
substituing ~l in send-hook
I'd like to create a generic send-hook which substitutes ~l, something like: send-hook ~l 'my_hdr Reply-To: ~l' The ~l won't be substituted in my_hdr. Is there some means to achieve this? -Hanspeter
Re: tagging and copying/saving
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:48:21PM -0500, David Collantes wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:02:36PM -0600, Fred Dech wrote: in Elm, i could tag numerous emails and then group copy or save them to a folder. when i try this in Mutt, only the currently selected email gets appended to the specified folder. After tagging, press ; then the command you want to apply to the tagged messages. Cheers, oooh. !Muchas Gracias!
Re: tagging and copying/saving
On Feb 21, Fred Dech [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: in Elm, i could tag numerous emails and then group copy or save them to a folder. when i try this in Mutt, only the currently selected email gets appended to the specified folder. am i missing something obvious? how is this normally achieved in Mutt? Lookup tag-prefix and $auto_tag in the manual. one other question. is there a way to enable wildcards in order to get a subset menu of one's entire folder list (e.g. change to =myJunk_*)? another elmism i can live without... but don't wanna! If you're doing change-folder, you should be able to do =myJunk_tabtab to see a list of matching folders (the first tab would just complete the line if there was only one match, the second tab brings up a list if the first remains ambiguous). msg24651/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mutt versus Pine under WIN2000
Dear all, I have happily used (and still use) Pine under Unix. Since I work with project partners that use MS-Office and other WIN2000 programs, however, I now have to move primarily to a Windows environment. I work alot from home or on the road, live out of range of high-speed Internet, and so need to work offline in store-and-forward mode. Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. Assuming that Outlook is unacceptable, I have discovered: -- Eudora, Pegasus, and Opera use variations of the mbox format, but all three create database indexes in default directories and cannot handle LF-only files, new mboxes, mboxes elsewherre in the file tree, etc. None of them, gallingly, let you define an external editor like vim. -- Pine for Unix uses the mbox format, of course, but the Windows ports use something called c-client MBX, not in plain text. PC-Pine can read mbox format, and can even write it if you type #driver.unix\pathname\to\your\mailbox the first time you save. Pine has been recompiled (not by its maintainers, see http://www.eecg.toronto.edu/~bli/personal.html) to use mbox format by default, but this apparently does not work under a normal Cygwin shell but only under Exceed or XFree86 -- I have gotten the latter to work, but not the former (the xterm disappears before offering a prompt). However, with the Cygwin variant there does not seem to be a way that one can click on a URL to start an external browser -- necessary functionality which PC-Pine supports. It is also not clear to me how, if at all, the Pine setup can store- and-forward, which is necessary for offline working. -- I managed to get the mutt- and fetchmail-based Unixmail suite partially to work (see http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net), but if it has store-and-forward, I cannot see where to configure this and where the spools are put by default (I have studied the documentation and tried several experiments). If it is in fact supported (I am starting to doubt it), this store-and-forward part will evidently require more tweaking, and the urlview interface that apparently works under Linux (for invoking an external browser) has, that I am aware, not yet been ported to NT/WIN2000. Having spent several long days working on this (I am not a programmer), I must confess I'm at a loss. Should I keep tweaking away at any of the above? Should I look to running pine on top of Linux on top of VMWare on top of WIN2000? Or pine under Linux, with VMWare for MS-Office? Or should I download two identical email streams in parallel -- one into mutt, for processing into mbox files and editing with vim, and one into Eudora, for browsing URLs contained in messages and collecting attached binaries automatically in a default directory? Any advice gratefully received. Tom P.S. I have WIN2000 with MKS Toolkit 7.5, Exceed 7.0, Cygwin (very recent), XFree86 (installed today), Eudora, Pegasus, Cygwin-pine, Cygwin-pine-with-mbox, Unixmail, Unixmail Mutt, Cygwin Mutt, Mailx. Dr. Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghoven +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619
Re: Mutt versus Pine under WIN2000
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:35:32PM +0100, Thomas Baker wrote: Having spent several long days working on this (I am not a programmer), I must confess I'm at a loss. Should I keep tweaking away at any of the above? Should I look to running pine on top of Linux on top of VMWare on top of WIN2000? Or pine under Linux, with VMWare for MS-Office? Or should I download two identical email streams in parallel -- one into mutt, for processing into mbox files and editing with vim, and one into Eudora, for browsing URLs contained in messages and collecting attached binaries automatically in a default directory? I have found running Windows under VMWare on a Linux box to be quite adequate for 98% of what I need to do at work (a Win2000 environment). The majority of my mail reading is done using mutt and imap to the Exchange server. The only time I really NEED to use Outlook is when replying to meeting requests. This can be accomplished by either running Outlook under a VM, or by using the outlook web client access. The web client isn't perfect, but it will let you reply to appointments properly. I hate to say it here, but if you are using Exchange 2000 at work, the client piece of Evolution (Ximian Gnome) is supposed to work fairly well as an Outlook replacement, but it does cost money to get it (about $70 per seat, i think). -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt versus Pine under WIN2000
David == David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I hate to say it here, but if you are using Exchange 2000 at David work, the client piece of Evolution (Ximian Gnome) is David supposed to work fairly well as an Outlook replacement, but David it does cost money to get it (about $70 per seat, i think). Unless I missed something, the Ximian Connector isn't available in beta or release, and won't be for several months. But it is planned, and will be able to talk Outlookese in this way. - Chris. -- $a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
Philip Mak wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:20:03PM -0500, David Collantes wrote: It is not up to Mutt, but the editor you are using. I believe 'vi' will allow you to do that, but 'nano' or 'pico' will not. I would have thought that mutt would be able to wrap the lines before passing the message to 'vi'. well the issue is that mutt might very well do it wrong, or wrap something that shouldn't be wrapped (see below). I suppose I could code some sort of startup code in 'vi' to find and wrap long lines, but how would I make it only trigger when 'vi' is being started on composing a new reply (and not any other time, e.g. editing an existing message)? call vi with an option to do this (ie set editor=vim +'blah'... the problem is, that if you have stuff like this: blah blah blah $ ls /foo/bar $ cd blah it will get reformatted like this: blah blah blah $ ls /foo/bar $ cd blah ie sometimes you WANT to avoid wrapping everything in a reply. i have 'Q' mapped to 'gqip' in vim, so i just use that. in vi, use 'par' or 'fmt'. i usually find it better to wrap as i go. you can also ask your friends / relatives / co-workers to wrap their lines. this is bound to make you VERY popular with them!! -- William Yardley GnuPG public key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
Re: Reply quoting an unwrapped message
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 05:26:19PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: I suppose I could code some sort of startup code in 'vi' to find and wrap long lines, but how would I make it only trigger when 'vi' is being started on composing a new reply (and not any other time, e.g. editing an existing message)? call vi with an option to do this (ie set editor=vim +'blah'... But that also affects when I press the [e]dit key to edit a message in my mailbox, for example. I'd want the option to ONLY take effect when vi is being called after I pressed [r]eply. the problem is, that if you have stuff like this: blah blah blah $ ls /foo/bar $ cd blah it will get reformatted like this: blah blah blah $ ls /foo/bar $ cd blah Well, I was thinking of making it only reformat lines that are too long. This will make the above case work. Although, if someone sends the output of a program to me and it's just long enough to exceed 80 characters when is added to it, then that would be wrapped undesirably. How does pine do it, anyway? pine wraps paragraphs in replies fine. They seem to have some heuristic or something that does the right thing almost all the time...
Re: locale for Sun
Hi, Thanks for the replies. It turns out that I decided to compile the rxvt sources myself, rather than using the executable that came with the system. That fixed my problem. -- Mun
S/MIME Howto
Does anyone knows where could I find a s/mime howto? I just got 1.5.0i and I want to try the s/mime support, but nothing comes with it to set it up. How to create my certificate/key? How can I make it(them) 'legal' for the top CA? Any help highly appreciated. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida Joy in looking and comprehending is nature's most beautiful gift. msg24658/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S/MIME Howto
David Collantes wrote: Does anyone knows where could I find a s/mime howto? I just got 1.5.0i and I want to try the s/mime support, but nothing comes with it to set it up. check smime.rc in contrib/, check this site: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/encryption/openssl.html How to create my certificate/key? How can I make it(them) 'legal' for the top CA? Any help highly appreciated. you need to get one - thawte has free ones, or you can buy one from verisign. also check out smime_keys.pl which you can use to setup most stuff for you. -- William Yardley GnuPG public key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
Re: S/MIME Howto
Will Yardley wrote: you need to get one - thawte has free ones, or you can buy one from verisign. to clarify... i'm sure you _could_ make your own using ssl... however it's probably a good idea to get one from a root CA if you want the certs to not spit out warnings of the sort that self signed SSL certs do. -- William Yardley GnuPG public key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
mailboxes list
Is there some way to clear the mailbox list? i.e. the list that is added to by the 'mailboxes' command. I want to have two different sets of mailboxes (one for each mailing list) and have a keybinding to cycle through them; i.e. a set of work-related mailboxes and a set of music-related mailboxes. I find that there are times where I want to check the work related stuff and spend too much time skipping over the music mailing lists and getting distracted, and when I'm reading the less serious lists I'm rarely interested in hearing about the work stuff. I could do this with different sets of configuration files, but it seems like there should be some way to just use a command to switch lists without exiting, or without running two seperate copies of mutt. Apologies if this is something obvious that I missed. thanks, -kyle -- http://mas.cs.umass.edu/~rawlins -- I don't want the world, I just want your half.
The operator for patterns?
Hi, I want to specify something like ~C (domain !user@domain) i.e. Match everyone from domain except a certain user. How would I do this? Thanks! -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: The operator for patterns?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Danie Roux wrote: Hi, I want to specify something like ~C (domain !user@domain) i.e. Match everyone from domain except a certain user. How would I do this? Not to good at this but this is what I'ld do: ~Cdomain !~Cuser@domain Or you could try: ~C(domain !user@domain) Not sure about that one, but it just came to mind, so I included it. If I've totally screwed up that second one please explain what I did wrong. Thanks msg24663/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt versus Pine under WIN2000
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002, Thomas Baker wrote: Dear all, I have happily used (and still use) Pine under Unix. Since I work with project partners that use MS-Office and other WIN2000 programs, however, I now have to move primarily to a Windows environment. I work alot from home or on the road, live out of range of high-speed Internet, and so need to work offline in store-and-forward mode. Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. Not what you want to hear, but any chance you could use a Mac? With OS X, you'd be set. And Office v.X is supposed to be great. -Ken
