Re: Manipulate display of headers in browsers

2002-05-20 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 08:09 20 May 2002, Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  * Robert Wagner [05/19/02 11:14:52 CEST] wrote:
|  how can I change the Subject shown in the browser? [...]
|  A few days ago there was a discussion right here about exactly
|  the same topic.
| Umm, I was just wondering, that what are you talking about? :-) I mean,
| this whole Subject-header shown in *browser*. Isn't browser the thing,
| when you navigate mailboxes? I don't see how there can be Subject-header
| shown there. Still, this drew my attention... do you care to explain
| this a bit further, so I'd understand too?

In this context he probably means the index listing inside a folder.
Arguably a browser for individual mail items.  A more generic use of
the term browser than you had in mind probably.  Possibly misleading
since browser has a specific meaning in mutt.
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Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Anthony Towns

Hi,

I've been getting gradually more annoyed with the way my mail archives are
organised recently, and, after playing with Evolution a little bit, got to
thinking that vFolders might be the answer. So, I've been trying to figure
out some way of doing the same sort of thing in mutt.

First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could
be reading?

What I'm thinking is basically having a huge morass of mail shoved in a
directory somewhere, with a fancy index. Whenever I want to look at mail
in there, I construct a query (Show me all mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in the From/To/Cc headers or Show me all mail with message-id blah)
and then have mutt show me all the mail that matches that query as a
virtual folder.

The easiest way to do this seems like it'd be to write a script which
does the query and constructs a mailbox in Maildir format with all the
appropriate messages in it, then have mutt look at that Maildir. That
much I can do.

What I can't figure out is how to run that script and make mutt look at
the output in a reasonably effective way. What I'd _like_ is to be able
to write a macro that asks me:

What email address:

then runs  change-folder`/home/aj/mail/bin/query-by-addr $result`.

(I'd like to be able to have a few mutts doing queries at the same time,
so the folder name needs to be determined somewhat dynamically to avoid
clashes. I can't figure out how to do that with a macro either)

I could avoid the prompting by having my script do that, but I can't
figure out any way to have a macro change to a dynamically-determined
folder.

What would be ideal would be to have some sort of user variable that
could be set, and some way of making a macro give a prompt then set one
of those user variables. Then I could say:

macro index Q[What email address:,email] \
:set user_foldername=`query-by-addr $email`enter \
change-folder$foldernameenter

or something similar. But I can't do that, and I'm stumped as to what else
I can do.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Iain Truskett

* Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20 May 2002 17:38]:

[...]
 First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could be
 reading?

Examine the 'limit' command (bound by default to 'l' in the index
screen).

[...]
 What I can't figure out is how to run that script and make mutt look
 at the output in a reasonably effective way. What I'd _like_ is to be
 able to write a macro that asks me:

   What email address:

Enter mailbox in usual fashion

l ~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's how I do things at least.


cheers,
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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Bruno Postle

On Mon 20-May-2002 at 05:50:38 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote:
 * Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20 May 2002 17:38]:
 
  First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could
  be reading?
 
 Examine the 'limit' command (bound by default to 'l' in the index
 screen).

The limit command is perfect for this, but it only works on one mailbox
and mailboxes don't scale too well - Ok for five thousand messages,
_not_ so ok for a million.

-- 
Bruno



Re: New Mail Notification Not Showing in Folder View

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Saxena

On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  When I get new mail in a folder I do not get a notification
  N symbol appearing in my folders list
  
  q:Exit  c:Chdir  m:Mask  ?:Help
   1 drwx-- 15 tony   tony   4096 May 10 04:36 ../
   2 -rw---  1 tony   tony  43859 May 10 04:27 sent
   3 -rw---  1 tony   tony  0 May 10 04:20 me
   4 -rw---  1 tony   tony  0 May 10 04:20 linux
  
  I have in my muttrc file
  
  set folder_format=%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f
  
  which I thought would work with the N option.  
  Any ideas how to get the N new mail notification symbol to
  be displayed
 
 do you have:
 mailboxes +me +linux +other +mailboxes +here
 
 in your .muttrc ?
 

Or:

mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*'

-Andy




Re: mutt colors with X

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Saxena

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 12:23:06AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Will Yardley spake thus:
  if you're using xterm, you probably want to set TERM to xterm-xfree86.
 
 For the record, I use xterm's exclusively on my system, and I've got
 $TERM set to xterm-color, and everything colors just great. Mutt, Vim,
 everything ;)
 

Just a quick question for you - is the background on your xterm dark or
light? I am asking because vim sets background correctly for me in the
console, but fails to detect the black background in an xterm/konsole
window. The same goes for mutt, it colorizes as though the background
was light colored.


Thanks,
Andy



Re: Still fighting to get clickable URLs via w3m

2002-05-20 Thread Flavien

Cameron Simpson wrote :
 How about this script:
 
   detab ${1+$@} \
   | sed 's|\([Aa] [^]*[Hh][Rr][Ee][Ff]=\([^ 
]*\)[^]*\)\(.*\)\(/[Aa]\)|\1\3 [ \2 ]\4|g' \
   | w3m -dump -T text/html

sed has case Insensitive option : 'i', thus you don't need all the
[Hh][Rr][Ee][Ff] thing. You can write it this way :
sed 's|\(A [^]*HREF=\([^ ]*\)[^]*\)\(.*\)\(/A\)|\1\3 [ \2 ]\4|gi'

(didn't check the rest of the regexp)

Flavien.
-- 
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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Patrick

* Bruno Postle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-20-02 03:37]:
 On Mon 20-May-2002 at 05:50:38 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote:
  * Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20 May 2002 17:38]:
  
   First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could
   be reading?
  
  Examine the 'limit' command (bound by default to 'l' in the index
  screen).
 
 The limit command is perfect for this, but it only works on one mailbox
 and mailboxes don't scale too well - Ok for five thousand messages,
 _not_ so ok for a million.

Look at grepmail, grepmail.sourceforge.net.
-- 
Patrick Shanahan
Registered Linux User #207535 
  @ http://counter.li.org



Re: command line encryption

2002-05-20 Thread David T-G

Rocco --

...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% Hi,
% 
% * David T-G [05/17/02 15:43:40 CEST] wrote:
%  ...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
%  Well, yeah; the point was that we don't need mutt's cool features here
%  since the mail interface isn't doing the encrypting.
% 
% Right, we (isn't it still only me who wants to solve something ;-)

Good enough.


% don't need mutt at all. I've tested a few things and found out
% two facts. First of all, I now know that it works. And second,

Good!


% I totally forgot that I'm running procmail on my machine which
% rewrites the content-type header so that I don't need Esc+P at
% all...

This is probably OK since you're generating the mail and it's pretty
simple, but I'd still be careful with that rewrite rule; it *can* break
things.  Moreover, given the scenario you describe below, you don't need
it.


% 
%  Will the mail also be delivered to the user, or are you just doing a
%  fancy version of a .forward file?
% 
% Only forward. I just want to redirect mails to user@machine to
% another account encrypted with my key (because I don't want
% any mail to be forwarded as plaintext).

Good enough.  I've done much the same thing when I made my nightly
backups and then put the files up for anon ftp retreival by cron.


% 
...
%  header that says it's an RFC822 message and mutt would read it pretty
%  transparently.  I dunno how the mix of MIME and not-MIME would work,
%  but experimentation should answer that for you.
% 
% What I'm going to do is to simply encrypt the content without
% any ugly hack. I put it in a mailbox on my machine and run
% some shellscript(s) over it to recover the original and write
% them back to another folder.

Ah.  Well, if *that* is the case...

What I would do is make a null-passphrase key pair specifically for this
purpose.  Then put the public key on the forwarding side and do the

  | gpg --encrypt --armor --recipient 0x \
| mailx -s autoencrypted forwarded mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

as previously discussed.  Then comes the fun part:

On the receiving side, something like

  :0 :
  * Subject:.autoencrypted.forwarded.mail
  {

:0 f :
| gpg --decrypt

:0 :
=MyCatchFolder

  }

will catch and *autodecrypt* it and, voila, you have the mail exactly as
it arrived at the original machine after a nonetheless safe transit (and
it requires no fancy ssh port forwarding and catching on your destination
system but, instead, goes through the public SMTP system).

Of course, the code above is untested, and to be safe I would use the
procmailex backup copy rule to save, say, 25 messages on *each* side,
and perhaps even pump the forwarding mail thru formail to add a no-loop
header of some sort on the way out, but you get the idea.


% 
% Cheers, Rocco.


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread David T-G

Anthony, et al --

...and then Anthony Towns said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% I've been getting gradually more annoyed with the way my mail archives are
% organised recently, and, after playing with Evolution a little bit, got to

*grin*


% thinking that vFolders might be the answer. So, I've been trying to figure
% out some way of doing the same sort of thing in mutt.

Interesting concept...  Since I have no interest in installing Evo, can
you point me somewhere to learn more about their concept and
implementation?


% 
% First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could
% be reading?

Can't properly help you there until I really know what you mean :-)

I do know, though, that I've been itching for a real RDBMS back-end
for mailboxes so that I can simultaneously get around the where do
I put this? problem (eg, an offshoot mail to Bob really belongs in
Alice's thread and therefore her mailbox) and the how do I avoid
duplication? problem (sure, I could [somehow, as has been discussed
in fcc-save-hook threads before] save it in Bob's and Alice's folders,
but that's wasteful and it still doesn't point to Alice's from Bob's),
but that's a long way off.

I had been tinkering with an idea for approaching that by having one
single, potentially huge, canonical Maildir containing every message,
and then virtual Maildirs (which, BTW, need only the cur/ subdir)
with symlinks that point into the canonical dir.  The tricks are 1)
organizing the fake mailboxes and keeping them updated (procmail-ish)
and saving mail in them by actually writing symlinks and saving to the
big one (mutt-ish).  It's only a workaround anyway, so it probably
doesn't deserve much implementation effort, but it can stand some though
to look at ways to develop this.


% 
% What I'm thinking is basically having a huge morass of mail shoved in a
% directory somewhere, with a fancy index. Whenever I want to look at mail

Exactly.


% in there, I construct a query (Show me all mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% in the From/To/Cc headers or Show me all mail with message-id blah)
% and then have mutt show me all the mail that matches that query as a
% virtual folder.

You can probably construct such a query with grepm (a mutt-driving
frontend for grepmail, as noted in another reply), but the trick is the
search time involved (and the fact that grepmail works on mbox files
specifically because they are trickier to parse at the shell level) and
typing out the command (probably easier with macros or a renamed script).


% 
% The easiest way to do this seems like it'd be to write a script which
% does the query and constructs a mailbox in Maildir format with all the
% appropriate messages in it, then have mutt look at that Maildir. That
% much I can do.

Again, see grepmail and grepm here.


% 
% What I can't figure out is how to run that script and make mutt look at
% the output in a reasonably effective way. What I'd _like_ is to be able
% to write a macro that asks me:
% 
%   What email address:
% 
% then runs  change-folder`/home/aj/mail/bin/query-by-addr $result`.

Why not just fire off a subprocess?


% 
% (I'd like to be able to have a few mutts doing queries at the same time,
% so the folder name needs to be determined somewhat dynamically to avoid
% clashes. I can't figure out how to do that with a macro either)
% 
% I could avoid the prompting by having my script do that, but I can't
% figure out any way to have a macro change to a dynamically-determined
% folder.

Looks OK if you change the implementation.


% 
% What would be ideal would be to have some sort of user variable that
% could be set, and some way of making a macro give a prompt then set one
% of those user variables. Then I could say:
% 
%   macro index Q[What email address:,email] \
%   :set user_foldername=`query-by-addr $email`enter \
%   change-folder$foldernameenter

You're asking for a scripting language; that's been requested before,
too :-)


% 
% or something similar. But I can't do that, and I'm stumped as to what else
% I can do.
% 
% Any ideas?

I'm quite interested in my two ideas above, but I'd also be interested in
a quick indexing system for Maildir and a way for mutt, this indexing
system, and a search and assembly tool to work together on compressed
mailboxes.


% 
% Cheers,
% aj
% 
% -- 
% Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/
% I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred.
% 
%  ``BAM! Science triumphs again!'' 
% -- http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif


TIA  HAND  Good luck!

:-D
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Re: New Mail Notification Not Showing in Folder View

2002-05-20 Thread Sören Mindorf

Hi All,

I am a new reader of this list and I have the same problem.
I use mutt since one year and I like it. I updated to mutt 1.3.27i
and use the config from my old Version.
Now I do not get any notification in my folders.
In my .muttrc I have triedone of this:

mailboxes ! +mbox +debian +lug-kiel +privat +buecher
mailboxes  ! +~/Mail
mailboxes `for file in ~/Mail/*; do echo -n +~/Mail/$(basename $file) ; done`
mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*'

but nothing work.

Any ideas?

Greetings

Soeren

* Andy Saxena schrieb am 20 Mai 2002:

On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:27:42AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  When I get new mail in a folder I do not get a notification
  N symbol appearing in my folders list
  
  q:Exit  c:Chdir  m:Mask  ?:Help
   1 drwx-- 15 tony   tony   4096 May 10 04:36 ../
   2 -rw---  1 tony   tony  43859 May 10 04:27 sent
   3 -rw---  1 tony   tony  0 May 10 04:20 me
   4 -rw---  1 tony   tony  0 May 10 04:20 linux
  
  I have in my muttrc file
  
  set folder_format=%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f
  
  which I thought would work with the N option.  
  Any ideas how to get the N new mail notification symbol to
  be displayed
 
 do you have:
 mailboxes +me +linux +other +mailboxes +here
 
 in your .muttrc ?
 

Or:

mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*'

-Andy

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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Adam Shostack

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:58AM -0500, Patrick wrote:
 * Bruno Postle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-20-02 03:37]:
  On Mon 20-May-2002 at 05:50:38 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote:
   * Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20 May 2002 17:38]:
   
First, has anyone done this before? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO I could
be reading?
   
   Examine the 'limit' command (bound by default to 'l' in the index
   screen).
  
  The limit command is perfect for this, but it only works on one mailbox
  and mailboxes don't scale too well - Ok for five thousand messages,
  _not_ so ok for a million.
 
 Look at grepmail, grepmail.sourceforge.net.

One important difference is that vfolders are built around pre-built
indexes, making them more efficient than grepping hundreds of megs of
mail.  Having watched people use vfolders, it makes me seriously
consider switching over to evolution.

However, I can't find a decent technical overview of the system, other
than the source.

Adam



Re: threads visualization

2002-05-20 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% Hi all.

Hello!


% 
%  217   L 20-May Juan B Baixauli  (0.9K) [DoQmail] Pregunta
%  218   L 20-May Tucker   (1.2K) tq
...
%  225   L 20-May Adrian Dimarco   (2.2K) mq[DoQmail] Re: Isoqlog
%  226   L 20-May Gorka Etxebarria (2.8K) RE: [DoQmail] Pregunta
...
% 
% One of the problems is that replies with uppercase RE: are not colapsed

I suspect that the RE: is merely a secondary indicator of the true
problem, which is that LookOut! does not maintain threading headers.
If it isn't OutOfLuck, then it's probably still the same problem.


% in the right place. How can I fix this?

Refuse all mail that comes from Outhouse :-)  Alternatively, Cedric's
edit_threads patch will let you put them back where they belong, albeit
manually.  I use it a *lot* and am very happy with it.


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg @ ar.homelinux.org


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Bruno Postle

On Mon 20-May-2002 at 12:40:31PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 
 % One important difference is that vfolders are built around
 % pre-built indexes, making them more efficient than grepping hundreds
 % of megs of
 
 Hmmm...  Maybe glimpse as a search indexer?

The Maildir 'me.hcache' patch indexes your mail as you go along and the
db files are quite ok for searching.

Indexing mail in this way is much more efficient than an indexing
cronjob (always out-of-date) or a separate indexing demon (wrecks quake
performance).

-- 
Bruno



Re: threads visualization

2002-05-20 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I suspect that the RE: is merely a secondary indicator of the true
 problem, which is that LookOut! does not maintain threading headers.
 If it isn't OutOfLuck, then it's probably still the same problem.

I've verified that all messages that 'breaks' my threads have the
following header

X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

so, you are right, it's a M$ problem. This header is added by Microsoft
Outlook working on a M$ Exchange Server environment.

thanks for your replies ...

-- 
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Re: Virtual Folders in mutt

2002-05-20 Thread Adam Shostack

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:40:31PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Adam, et al --
 
 ...and then Adam Shostack said...
 % 
 % On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:58AM -0500, Patrick wrote:
 ...
 %   _not_ so ok for a million.
 %  
 %  Look at grepmail, grepmail.sourceforge.net.
 % 
 % One important difference is that vfolders are built around pre-built
 % indexes, making them more efficient than grepping hundreds of megs of
 
 Hmmm...  Maybe glimpse as a search indexer?  Mailing list archive search
 engines are fast; can the same idea be used to return a list of messages
 from lots of mailboxes being indexed and to hand to mutt as a mailbox?

Yes, I used to have this, but it never got today's mail, and it wasn't
really integrated into anything.  If I wanted non-integrated mail, I'd
be using MH. :) 

 % mail.  Having watched people use vfolders, it makes me seriously
 % consider switching over to evolution.
 
 Heavens! :-)

I figured that would be attention grabbing. :)

 % 
 % However, I can't find a decent technical overview of the system, other
 % than the source.
 
 Is there even a decent non-technical interview, or perhaps a non-decent
 technical interview?  What goal are they accomplishing and, very
 basically, how is it done?

http://www.ximian.com/devzone/tech/evolution.html

http://www.ximian.com/devzone/manuals/evolution/usage-mail-organize-vfolders.html


Adam




Re: mutt colors with X

2002-05-20 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:04:53AM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
 On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 12:23:06AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  Alas! Will Yardley spake thus:
   if you're using xterm, you probably want to set TERM to xterm-xfree86.
  
  For the record, I use xterm's exclusively on my system, and I've got
  $TERM set to xterm-color, and everything colors just great. Mutt, Vim,
  everything ;)
  
 
 Just a quick question for you - is the background on your xterm dark or
 light? I am asking because vim sets background correctly for me in the
 console, but fails to detect the black background in an xterm/konsole
 window. The same goes for mutt, it colorizes as though the background
 was light colored.

generally it _cannot_ detect whether the background is light or dark.

-- 
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gpg return mangling display

2002-05-20 Thread Aaron Goldblatt

I've got gnupg set up to download keys and verify signatures automatically 
when it runs across an invalid key, and the system works okay.

However, when it does so, the display gets mangled and is difficult to 
read until some times has passed where most parts of the screen have been 
redrawn.

There is a two-message thread describing this problem at the Marc archives 
of mutt-users, but no solution was ever posted, and I can't find another 
thread.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=9728377911r=1w=2

How can I fix this?  Pointers to docs, keywords, mailing list search 
keywords, and faqs are welcome, because I've got to be missing something 
here.

Thank you.

ag



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Trying to unsubscribe

2002-05-20 Thread John Poltorak


I keep trying to unsubscribe an old email address which gets redirected to 
me but it never succeeds as it needs the list owner's approval which never 
seems to be granted. 

How do I get this old subscriber address dropped?

I'm currently getting two copies of every msg to the list and have been 
doing so for a few months.


-- 
John





Re: gpg return mangling display

2002-05-20 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


--1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Alas! Aaron Goldblatt spake thus:
 However, when it does so, the display gets mangled and is difficult to=20
 read until some times has passed where most parts of the screen have been=
=20
 redrawn.
=20
 There is a two-message thread describing this problem at the Marc archive=
s=20
 of mutt-users, but no solution was ever posted, and I can't find another=
=20
 thread.

Hold down the Control key, then press the L key.

You might want to rebind all of the keys which might invoke gpg to also
press CTRL-L for you, for convenience (use macros).

--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/
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God is love, but get it in writing.
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Re: Trying to unsubscribe

2002-05-20 Thread Gary Johnson

[My apologies if this reply appears twice.  It's been an hour and a half
since I sent it the first time, the list never takes that long, and our
company e-mail system has been having problems recently.]

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:23:37PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
 I keep trying to unsubscribe an old email address which gets redirected to 
 me but it never succeeds as it needs the list owner's approval which never 
 seems to be granted. 
 
 How do I get this old subscriber address dropped?
 
 I'm currently getting two copies of every msg to the list and have been 
 doing so for a few months.

Some list servers use the From address in the _envelope_ to determine
the sender's identity.  If that doesn't match the address your are
trying to unsubscribe, the list server will reject the request.  I know
at least one of the list servers I subscribe to works that way, but I
don't remember if the mutt-users list server does.

To get around this, you can

set use_from

and set your 'From:' address to your old subscriber address when you
send your unsubscribe request.

HTH,
Gary

-- 
Gary Johnson   | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |




New 1.3.99i appears to be broken...

2002-05-20 Thread Vazquez, Ed

On OpenBSD 3.1-stable, with OpenSSL v0.9.6b

Built from ports:
automake-1.4-p5
autoconf-2.52
GNUmake-3.79.1
libslang-1.4.4
gettext-0.10.40
libiconv-1.7

configure options:

--sysconfdir=/etc/mutt \
--with-slang \
--with-regex \
--enable-pop \
--enable-imap \
--with-ssl \
--with-iconv

the configure script throws the errors:

(from config.log)
-
configure: In function `main':
configure:3533: syntax error befor `big'
configure: failed program was:
#line 3527 configure
#include confdefs.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/param.h
int main() {
-
configure: In function `main':
configure:7615: syntax error before `wc'
configure: failed program was:
#line 7606 configure
#include confdefs.h

#include stddef.h
#include stdlib.h
#ifdef HAVE_WCHAR_H
#include wchar.h
#endif
-
configure: In function `main':
configure:7861: syntax error before `s'
configure: failed program was:
#line 7852 configure
#include confdefs.h

#include stddef.h
#include stdlib.h
#ifdef HAVE_WCHAR_H
#include wchar.h
#endif
-

During the configure routine, stdout shows:

checking for catalogs to be installed... de ru it es ek fr pl nl cs id
sk ko el zh_TW zh_CN pt_BR eo gl sv da lt tr ja hu et ca
checking for iconv.h... yes
checking whether iconv.h defines iconv_t... yes
configure: warning: Unable to find an iconv function. See INSTALL for
help
checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... no

Despite all this, it appears to complete successfully 
despite the strange errors.

However, on running gmake, I get:

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/local/include
-I../intl -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c auth.c
In file included from ../mutt.h:51,
from auth.c:23:
../charset.h:39 syntax error befor `ICONV_CONST'
gmake[2]: *** [auth.o] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/build/src/mail/mutt/mutt-1.3.99/imap'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directore `/home/build/src/mail/mutt/mutt-1.3.99'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2


Line 39 of charset.h is:
size_t mutt_iconv (iconv_t, ICONV_CONST char **, size_t *, char **,
size_t *, ICONV_CONST char **, const char *);

So, it has something to do with the fact that it can't
properly find libiconv.

I've tried several things:

* Hard setting the location of iconv in the configure
  options

* Re-building libiconv from the ports collection

* Building libiconv from source

* Leaving iconv out of the configure options (it auto-finds
  the headers, so that doesn't work)

* setting the --without-iconv flag in the configure
  options

All of this, and it still errors in the same place.

What am I missing?

-- 
Ed Vázquez

Wasn't there something about a PASCAL programmer knowing the value of
everything and the Wirth of nothing?





Re: Trying to unsubscribe

2002-05-20 Thread Gary Johnson

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:23:37PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
 I keep trying to unsubscribe an old email address which gets redirected to 
 me but it never succeeds as it needs the list owner's approval which never 
 seems to be granted. 
 
 How do I get this old subscriber address dropped?
 
 I'm currently getting two copies of every msg to the list and have been 
 doing so for a few months.

Some list servers use the From address in the _envelope_ to determine
the sender's identity.  If that doesn't match the address your are
trying to unsubscribe, the list server will reject the request.  I know
at least one of the list servers I subscribe to works that way, but I
don't remember if the mutt-users list server does.

To get around this, you can

set use_from

and set your 'From:' address to your old subscriber address when you
send your unsubscribe request.

HTH,
Gary

-- 
Gary Johnson   | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |




duplicate aliases

2002-05-20 Thread Ken Weingold

I have changed some aliases by unaliasing them then 'a' to define them
again.  I noticed that in my mutt alias file, both are in there.  Does
mutt simply only take the last of duplicate aliases it finds in the
alias file?  I didn't see this in the manual.


-Ken




pgp-hook extra steps / delay

2002-05-20 Thread Darxus

When I have a pgp-hook set for a specific email address, and I write an
email to that email address, and flag it to be encrypted, it:

1) asks me if I really want to encrypt to the key I told it to
2) searches for keys that match the key ID I told it to use (this really
   blows my mind)
3) after I select one of the IDs/subkeys from the list that all match the
   ID I specified in the pgp-hook, it presumably it passes the ID that I
   had originally set in the pgp-hook to gpg to finally do the encryption.

Why waste my time with all of these steps instead of just skipping steps
1 and 2, and immediately encrypting with the key ID I specified in the
pgp-hook, because I knew what I wanted ?  Is there any (non-recoding)
way to convince it to work this way ?

-- 
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all its contents.
http://www.ChaosReigns.com



mutt waits indefinitely to retrieve public key for signed mails

2002-05-20 Thread Rahul Rekapalli

hi,
how do i prevent mutt from waiting indefinitely trying to recover the public keyfor a 
signed mail. it waits with a message Invoking PGP. I want the duration it waits to 
be small. 
also, I have enabled autoview for images using xv. but mutt opens the attachments 
before opening the mail. is there anyway I can make mutt open the mail and then open 
the attachments?
also, could anyone tell me if the signed mail that I am sending has a good signature 
or bad signature? I mean I am not sure if the signed mails i send are properly signed 
or not.

thanks
rgds
Rahul
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Re: mutt colors with X

2002-05-20 Thread Andy Saxena

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 03:20:03PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
 On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:04:53AM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
  On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 12:23:06AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
   Alas! Will Yardley spake thus:
if you're using xterm, you probably want to set TERM to xterm-xfree86.
   
   For the record, I use xterm's exclusively on my system, and I've got
   $TERM set to xterm-color, and everything colors just great. Mutt, Vim,
   everything ;)
   
  
  Just a quick question for you - is the background on your xterm dark or
  light? I am asking because vim sets background correctly for me in the
  console, but fails to detect the black background in an xterm/konsole
  window. The same goes for mutt, it colorizes as though the background
  was light colored.
 
 generally it _cannot_ detect whether the background is light or dark.

Hmmm... so what would the solution be in this case? Should I always use
a dark background? I guess if I had to choose between a dark and a light
background, I'd be more inclined to use a dark background. How would I
tell mutt that the background will always be dark?

Is there any way to switch between the colors for dark and light
backgrounds while in the application?


Thanks,
Andy



Re: Trying to unsubscribe

2002-05-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Gary Johnson am 2002-05-20 um 16:45:58 -0700 :
 To get around this, you can
 
 set use_from

Hm, aren't you rather thinking of envelope_from?  I use set
envelope_from for some IMO broken list setups like the apache lists, and
this works fine.

Alexander Skwar
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