slow imap/getting list of new folders

2002-07-18 Thread Ben Escoto

Hi all.  Firstly I'd like to thank all the mutt developers for really
putting together a great mailer.  I've tried a bunch recently and mutt
is among the most promising.  It is very configurable and puts a lot
of power at your fingertips.  However, I'm experiencing two big
problems I haven't figured out how to solve from the documentation:

1.  How do I get a list of folders with new messages in them?  What
I'd like is to press a button and get a numbered list of folders
with the number of new messages in them.  Then to change folder I
could just type in the number.

Or maybe Mutt works some other way.  Just right now I don't see an
easy way to see a summary of how many new messages are in which
folders.

I was thinking of trying to come up with a script myself that
would produce such a listing.  If I did, it looks like it would be
easy in Mutt to bind that to a key, but how would that script
communicate the command to change to a particular folder?  Is that
possible with Mutt?  I wanted to make sure before I tried writing
the script.

2.  Changing folders is really slow.  Right now I'm using IMAP and it
seems to take about a full second for every 1000 messages in the
folder.  By contrast, I'd say Evolution was about twice (?) as
fast when initially reading the folder upon startup, and very
fast (1.5-2+ orders of magnitude faster) when revisiting one.

I'm not especially wedded to IMAP (with Mutt I can just ssh into
my machine) so if the answer is that Mutt isn't good with imap and
much better with mbox or mh or whatever, that's fine.  I just
didn't want to spend an hour switching everything and then only
get a 2x speedup or something.

Also, I saw a maildir header caching patch by Michael Elkins -
is that relevant to my problem?

Thanks for any advice on these two problems.


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Re: slow imap/getting list of new folders

2002-07-18 Thread Will Yardley

Ben Escoto wrote:
 
 1.  How do I get a list of folders with new messages in them?  What
   I'd like is to press a button and get a numbered list of folders
   with the number of new messages in them.  Then to change folder I
   could just type in the number.

well you have to define which mailboxes you want to receive incoming
mail; ie:
mailboxes ! +labels +admin +cron

or something like that (they can be all on one line or split over
multiple lines, i believe).

to see the list, start mutt with 'mutt -y', or hit change-folder?CR
(you can make a macro for this if you want; i was used to PINE so i
bound ',' to this).

 2.  Changing folders is really slow.  Right now I'm using IMAP and it
   seems to take about a full second for every 1000 messages in the
   folder.  By contrast, I'd say Evolution was about twice (?) as
   fast when initially reading the folder upon startup, and very
   fast (1.5-2+ orders of magnitude faster) when revisiting one.

evolution caches IMAP mail IIRC; mutt does not...
 
   I'm not especially wedded to IMAP (with Mutt I can just ssh into
   my machine) so if the answer is that Mutt isn't good with imap and
   much better with mbox or mh or whatever, that's fine.  I just
   didn't want to spend an hour switching everything and then only
   get a 2x speedup or something.

it will almost definitely be faster with local mbox folders.
 
   Also, I saw a maildir header caching patch by Michael Elkins -
   is that relevant to my problem?

only if you're using Maildir. helps out a bit (a lot in certain cases).

-- 
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input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Re: Several questions

2002-07-18 Thread Luke Ravitch

On 2002-07-17 21:15, Philip White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1) I have Mutt color my new mails yellow, which it dutifully does when a
 new e-mail arrives.  However, if I elect not to read it at that moment,
 close the client, then reopen it, the e-mail is no longer yellow even
 though it's unread, and the mailserver knows it (its web interface shows
 it as being unread).  Perhaps I have it coloring the wrong e-mail
 status?  Perhaps there's a different setting for coloring
 not-immediately-new-but-unread e-mails?

color yellow default index ~U

The ~U pattern matches all unread (including new) mail.

 2) The IMAP server contains Trash and Sent Items folders for my use.
 ~ How can I configure Mutt to automatically place copies of outgoing mail
 into Sent Items and place deleted mails into Trash?

Sent items is easy:

set record /sent/mail/folder

Of course, replace /sent/mail/folder with whatever the real path to
your Sent Items folder is.

I don't have a good answer for the trash folder.  You could set up
some macros that save the file in your trash folder when you press 'd'
instead of deleting them outright (saving to another folder deletes
the message from the current folder).  Then setup a folder hook so
that pressing 'd' while in the trash folder really deletes.  The only
real problem with this is that other deleting in ways other than just
pressing 'd' won't utilize the trash folder.

-- 
Luke




Re: Several questions

2002-07-18 Thread Will Yardley

Luke Ravitch wrote:
 
 I don't have a good answer for the trash folder.  You could set up
 some macros that save the file in your trash folder when you press 'd'
 instead of deleting them outright (saving to another folder deletes
 the message from the current folder).  Then setup a folder hook so
 that pressing 'd' while in the trash folder really deletes.  The only
 real problem with this is that other deleting in ways other than just
 pressing 'd' won't utilize the trash folder.

cedric duval's trash folder patch is useful for this if you're building
your own mutt (or if it's already applied to the mutt on your system).

http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/

while this (apparently) isn't something that the developers have wanted
to add to mutt, it is a frequent request, and cedric's patch is much
nicer than using macros.

i can understand the 'i mean delete when i say delete' philosophy, but
since i like to keep things around for a while but like to keep my
mailboxes fairly small, i find trash folders very useful.

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Will Yardley
input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Re: pgp problems...

2002-07-18 Thread David T-G

jbw --

...and then jbw said...
% 
% On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 05:39:56AM -0500, David T-G spewed into the ether:
% [clip]
...
%  You should check the exit code of gpg.  If it's nonzero and you haven't
%  specifically set mutt to recognize good signature text then mutt will
%  see it as a failure anyway.
%  
% I set pgp_good_sign and now mutt/gpg verifies signatures on 
% encrypted mime encoded msgs. But it still doesn't allow me to

Good.  That's a start :-)


% decrypt the message. ESC-P doesn't work either..

We'll get to that.


...
%  What about starting simply: can you send yourself signed, encrypted, and
%  signed+encrypted messages and read them properly?
%  
%  If *you* can read *your* messages, then whose can you not read?  Is it
%  just one person?  Put your public key on the servers and we can try
%  sending you (signed and unsigned) encrypted messages for you to test.
% 
% I can read my messages fine with no problem. My key should be on

Good.


% the public servers. I uploaded it to wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net a couple
% of months ago.

We've now taken care of that little wrinkle :-)


% Since this is the only person I communicate with using encryption at
% the moment I have had no one else to compare it with. They are
% using Eudura/Windows with the PGPfreeware 7.0.3 plugin.

Well, we can take care of that :-)  Watch your mailbox for some test
messages.


% 
%  Have one of your problematic correspondents send you vanilla test
...
%  
% I have attached one of the problem msgs file testmsg.pgp. Let me know
% what you find out.

From my [completely amateur] review of the file and comparison with my
own tests, it looks as though your correspondent encrypted a file, pasted
the encrypted text into a message, and then in-line signed that message
which wrapped the signature around the encryption.

mutt, AFAIK, isn't expecting two-step handling like that but, instead, a
message that is both signed and encrypted in the same step.  I think that
that is where the problem lies.

Take a look at my tests and see if any of them give you the same problem
as your pal (I'm going to keep my bet on which it will be silent until
the results come out, of course :-)  Meanwhile, check with him or her and
see how the encryption and signing are done; if some of it involves
clipboard pasting, then that's probably the trouble.


% 
% TIA

HTH  HAND


% 
% jbw

:-D
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fcntl: invalid parameter

2002-07-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre

When I open my IMAP mailbox, I get the following error:

  fcntl: Paramètre invalide (errno = 22)

What happens?

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Re: pgp problems...

2002-07-18 Thread jbw

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:48:13AM -0500, David T-G spewed into the ether:
[snip]
 From my [completely amateur] review of the file and comparison with my
 own tests, it looks as though your correspondent encrypted a file, pasted
 the encrypted text into a message, and then in-line signed that message
 which wrapped the signature around the encryption.
 
 mutt, AFAIK, isn't expecting two-step handling like that but, instead, a
 message that is both signed and encrypted in the same step.  I think that
 that is where the problem lies.
 
 Take a look at my tests and see if any of them give you the same problem
 as your pal (I'm going to keep my bet on which it will be silent until
 the results come out, of course :-)  Meanwhile, check with him or her and
 see how the encryption and signing are done; if some of it involves
 clipboard pasting, then that's probably the trouble.
 
 
 % 
 % TIA
 
 HTH  HAND
 
 
David,

I was able to decrypt  read all of the emails you sent except for
the signed+pasted-encrypted in-line message. With particular email I 
received the same results as with their emails.

From what you said about the two-step process and based on the software
they are using, eudora (win2K)/pgpfreeware 7.0.3 plugin that since
pgpfreeware is a plugin and not an integral part of eudora that this
is how the plugin handles the encryption and signing of messages with
eudora. 

That would explain why when I send them signed+encrypted email they can
only open it what they call a secure viewer which is a seperate window
from eudora. The pgpfreeware plugin is expecting a two-step process and my 
emails are signed+encrypted in one-step. Therefore they can't read my
emails directly within eudora.

So which method is the standard signing and encrypting in one-step or
two-steps?

Thanks for your help,

jbw

 
 :-D
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Re: automatic pgp key import [SOLVED]

2002-07-18 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld

Justin R. Miller wrote:

 Check the upgrade notes to GnuPG 1.0.7.  I believe you need: 
 
   keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

Thanks, works now.

Viktor
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Re: fcntl: invalid parameter

2002-07-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 17:08:32 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 When I open my IMAP mailbox, I get the following error:
 
   fcntl: Paramètre invalide (errno = 22)
 
 What happens?

I've just had a look with strace. In fact, this is not related to IMAP,
but to the postpone mailbox that is read (over NFS).

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lbdb query when forwarding mail

2002-07-18 Thread Ivo Marino

lbdb query when forwarding mail
===

I'm using mutt for a week now and I'm very impressed
of all the avaiable configuration options for mutt.

It's the best MUA for me.

Anyway there are some litte options witch I would
enable in order to send my mails faster and easier.

I've bounded the external-query function successfully
to lbdb, in order to fetch out user addresses when
pressing Q.

This works only when I'm going to compose new mails,
but when I want to forward mails I always get the To:
value and am this way only able to check out users
from my mutt aliases file.

Anyone has some tips to solve my little issue ?

Maybe a same mail question was posted before mine
but actually I'm only subscribed for a week to this
list and I've found nothing usefull in the arcvhives.

Thanks for any help, folks !
Have a nice day,

 - Ivo
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UTF 8 / ACS question

2002-07-18 Thread Ken Weingold

The Mac OS X Terminal does not have much support for anything but
vt100, so the mutt threading has to be set to with ascii_chars.  In
the next release of OS X, 10.2, the terminal has UTF 8 support.  I
don't know much about this, and the mutt manual says that threading by
default uses ACS characters.  Are these two related in that the new
Terminal will display the mutt threading correctly with ascii_chars
set to no?

Thanks.


-Ken



Re: lbdb query when forwarding mail

2002-07-18 Thread Gary Johnson

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:02:07PM +0200, Ivo Marino wrote:

 I've bounded the external-query function successfully
 to lbdb, in order to fetch out user addresses when
 pressing Q.
 
 This works only when I'm going to compose new mails,
 but when I want to forward mails I always get the To:
 value and am this way only able to check out users
 from my mutt aliases file.
 
 Anyone has some tips to solve my little issue ?

You can access the external-query function any time mutt displays a To:
or Cc: prompt by typing Ctrl-T.  This is discussed in the mutt manual in
the External Address Queries section.

Gary

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
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Re: slow imap/getting list of new folders

2002-07-18 Thread Ben Escoto

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:04:29AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 well you have to define which mailboxes you want to receive incoming
 mail; ie:
 mailboxes ! +labels +admin +cron
 
 or something like that (they can be all on one line or split over
 multiple lines, i believe).
 
 to see the list, start mutt with 'mutt -y', or hit change-folder?CR
 (you can make a macro for this if you want; i was used to PINE so i
 bound ',' to this).

Thanks for the tip.  This is close to what I want, but when I run
'mutt -y' I just see all the folders I put next to the mailboxes
command and a 0 beside each one, whether or not there are new messages
in them.  If this is an IMAP problem, as I said before, I don't mind
switching to mbox or whatever, but the process is somewhat laborious
for me.  And assuming the -y list can tell me which folders have new
mail, is there a way to do that from inside mutt, or should I just
quit and restart?

 it will almost definitely be faster with local mbox folders.
  
  Also, I saw a maildir header caching patch by Michael Elkins -
  is that relevant to my problem?
 
 only if you're using Maildir. helps out a bit (a lot in certain cases).

Do you know if mbox or maildir+patch is quicker?  With whatever the
quickest one is, is it pretty fast to switch between folders with,
say, 1 messages?  Thanks again for any info.


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Re: lbdb query when forwarding mail

2002-07-18 Thread Ivo Marino

Thank you.
Next time I'll take a better look at the manual.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:31:18AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:02:07PM +0200, Ivo Marino wrote:
 
  I've bounded the external-query function successfully
  to lbdb, in order to fetch out user addresses when
  pressing Q.
  
  This works only when I'm going to compose new mails,
  but when I want to forward mails I always get the To:
  value and am this way only able to check out users
  from my mutt aliases file.
  
  Anyone has some tips to solve my little issue ?
 
 You can access the external-query function any time mutt displays a To:
 or Cc: prompt by typing Ctrl-T.  This is discussed in the mutt manual in
 the External Address Queries section.
 
 Gary
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
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Re: Find Related Mails

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Nelson D. Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-16 06:38]:
 Is there a way to bind a key that searches all the
 mdirs/ for related messages? I've been searching up on
 that and can't find a thing. Has anyone tried it?

man mgrep

Sven



Re: Find Related Mails

2002-07-18 Thread Patrick

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-18-02 14:12]:
 * Nelson D. Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-16 06:38]:
  Is there a way to bind a key that searches all the
  mdirs/ for related messages? I've been searching up on
  that and can't find a thing. Has anyone tried it?
 
 man mgrep
 

Also grepm, check: http://www.barsnick.net/sw/grepm.html

Another way to the same end.
-- 
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Registered Linux User #207535 
  @ http://counter.li.org



Re: Mutt and mail list issue

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-18 03:52]:
 I'm on the same list as Dee and am having the same problem.
 My best guess is that the mailing list software
 is chocking on the mime headers.

   Mime-Version: 1.0
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   Content-Disposition: inline

looks fine.  *shrug*

 The list admin sent me some instructions for
 Lookout Express that suggested setting the program to
 send all attachments inline or something similar.

well - have you been sending to that list using Lookout Distress?
if so then you lose - even when the headers are ok.

anyway, you can still send the data inline
(inside the body of your message).
but i'd soon killfile you if you did.

 If anyone has any suggestions I'd like to hear them.

dont send attachments - send URLs to files instead.
then those who want them can get them;
and those who don't won't have to.

personally, i find that disallowing
attachments on mailing lists is fine.
i'd even set a 10K maximum on the lists
i maintain - if the software allowed it.

Sevn



Re: Fwd: Internet.Com Format Error

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-15 05:24]:
 * W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-15 07:07]:
 I have attached the e-mail sent to me from
 the list saying no go on me sending via Mutt.
 Hmmm.. wonder whats up ?

 You may want to post one of the rejected mails.

now, if he doesn't then we can all ignore the problem.
no info - no help.

besides - when has this list become a problem solver
for other lists' configurations?

Sven  [expecting the usual pc comments]

--
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Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary
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Re: Fcc default to domain name

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-15 07:18]:
 How would I set the default Fcc to the domain name of the
 recipient, omitting the tld part (.com or whatever).
 This would also be useful as a default save-hook.

  fcc-hook @domain +domain

no, there's no special for the domain part.
no, mutt does not have a scripting language.
no, there's no patch ion 1.5.* for this yet.

Sven



Re: UTF 8 / ACS question

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 02:16:03PM -0400, Ken Weingold wrote:
 The Mac OS X Terminal does not have much support for anything but
 vt100, so the mutt threading has to be set to with ascii_chars.  In
 the next release of OS X, 10.2, the terminal has UTF 8 support.  I
 don't know much about this, and the mutt manual says that threading by
 default uses ACS characters.  Are these two related in that the new
 Terminal will display the mutt threading correctly with ascii_chars
 set to no?

not really (ACS standards for alternate-character-set - which does not
apply to Unicode or UTF-8).  It's coincidental - mutt has hardcoded
UTF-8 strings for the line-drawing characters that correspond to the
vt100 alternate character set.

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Re: search-next annoyance [1.5.1]

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-15 19:57]:
 i'm getting pretty annoyed by the behavior of search-next; this is how i
 use mutt pretty often, and it doesn't exactly help to make it easier:

 starting in index:
 search~b patternenter
 display-message
 searchpatternenter
 exit
 search-next
 display-message
 search-next

hmm...

 at this moment, instead of just jumping to the
 next match, mutt prompts me for the pattern.

huh?  that doesn't happen with my mutt 1.4.

 is there a knob i've overlooked?  i'm running 1.5.1i,

oh - mutt 1.5.1  maybe that one's different?
how come you complain about a *developer*
version on the users* list then?

you should try discussing this with
the developers on mutt-dev... ;-)

Sven



Re: search-next annoyance [1.5.1]

2002-07-18 Thread Michael Tatge

Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 * Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-15 19:57]:
  starting in index:
  search~b patternenter
  display-message
  searchpatternenter
  exit
  search-next
  display-message
  search-next
 
 hmm...
 
  at this moment, instead of just jumping to the
  next match, mutt prompts me for the pattern.
 
 huh?  that doesn't happen with my mutt 1.4.

I see exactly the same behavior as Roman with mutt 1.4 Seven.
Hm, are you running any patches Roman?

Michael
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Re: Mail to this list using Mutt

2002-07-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-15 05:43]:
 Is list maintainer Jim on-line tonight?
 If, please reply off line.
 CC'd to the mutt-users list.

man irc!

Sven



Re: search-next annoyance

2002-07-18 Thread Cedric Duval

Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 display-message
 search-next

 at this moment, instead of just jumping to the next match, mutt prompts
 me for the pattern.

But you are presented the previous value at the prompt, don't you?

 it's obviously trying to be helpful, but in fact does just the
 opposite. i just want it to do what i told it, which is search for the
 next match, not create a new search.

  macro pager n search-next\n

?

-- 
Cedric



Re: pgp problems...

2002-07-18 Thread David T-G

jbw --

...and then jbw said...
% 
% On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:48:13AM -0500, David T-G spewed into the ether:
% [snip]
...
%  Take a look at my tests and see if any of them give you the same problem
...
% I was able to decrypt  read all of the emails you sent except for
% the signed+pasted-encrypted in-line message. With particular email I 
% received the same results as with their emails.

Aha!  As I thought.


% 
...
% is how the plugin handles the encryption and signing of messages with
% eudora. 

Yeah.


% 
% That would explain why when I send them signed+encrypted email they can
% only open it what they call a secure viewer which is a seperate window

Ahhh...


% from eudora. The pgpfreeware plugin is expecting a two-step process and my 
% emails are signed+encrypted in one-step. Therefore they can't read my
% emails directly within eudora.

Yeah.  And that explains why their mails are goofy, too.


% 
% So which method is the standard signing and encrypting in one-step or
% two-steps?

Well, I don't know what one considers standard, but I'd say the mutt
way is the Right Way ;-)  I've also followed the gnupg list a bit and it
seems that a single sign-and-encrypt process is a more common method,
though there is some discussion of doing multiple steps for signing and
encryption (in fact, s+e+s or e+s+e to get around some security problems
inherent in public-key encryption).


% 
% Thanks for your help,

Sure thing!


% 
% jbw


HAND

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Re: Fwd: Internet.Com Format Error

2002-07-18 Thread David T-G

Dee --

...and then W. D. McKinney said...
% 
% I have attached the e-mail sent to me from the list saying 
% no go on me sending via Mutt.

Did you sign your message?  Did you send any high-bit characters that
might have been QP-encoded?


% 
% Hmmm.. wonder whats up ?

Only they can tell you for sure, though this list will probably end up
helping anyway.


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pgp-hooks...

2002-07-18 Thread kevin lyda

[note: i sent this to my local linux user's group.  i'm wondering if
anyone here has ideas on this?  i've searched around a lot on this and
haven't found anything.  i use the standard mutt with redhat 7.3 (Mutt
1.2.5.1i (2000-07-28)).  if people could cc me that would be great, but
i'll also skim the archives thing.  but essentially can i use pgp-hooks
autoselect pgp keys for specified users with mutt 1.x + gpg?  can i do
it without a patch?  if no to both, would a little perl wrapper to munge
the gpg output as i describe below actually work, or will it not work
on other keys?  thanks!]

ok, i just played with pgp-hooks in mutt.  as usual when experimenting
with pgp and mutt, i've enlisted our test admin paul jakma and our
emergency backup test admin, liam bedford[0].  sadly however i never
got past paul since there were too many errors (obviously on my side
as usual).

so this is the command mutt uses to list keys:
gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys %r
and this is the pgp-hook i have set:
pgp-hook paulj@(itg\.ie|alphyra\.(ie|com)) 26034AA9

mutt asks if it should use key 26034AA9 and then it decides to make me
pick the key from the normal list.  only after selecting a key that way
does it work.  this is the sequence of commands:

gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys 26034AA9
gpg --recv-keys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys paulj@alphyra Paul Jakma

this is what the latter command (which is used to build the list) produces:

pub:f:1024:17:D86BF79464A2FF6A:1998-10-21::64:f:Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]::scESC:
uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
uid:fPaul Jakma (Home address) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
sub:f:2048:16:625C9FD229C725E9:1998-10-21::64e:
sub:f:2048:20:A8A077E4D602BC59:2000-07-04::64esc:
sub:f:4096:20:B52EE1206A906D73:2000-07-05::64esc:
pub:f:1024:17:E26517E626034AA9:2000-07-04:2004-07-11:72:f:Paul Jakma 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]::scESC:
uid:fPaul Jakma (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
sub:f:1024:16:777344AD45F7485F:2000-07-04:2004-07-11:72e:
sub:f:2048:20:B54868CCB0B88E06:2000-07-05:2004-07-11:72esc:
sub:f:4096:20:F960636AB35EAE31:2000-07-26:2004-07-11:72esc:

the first set of keys can be dismissed.  the annoying thing is that
the list is as long as the number of uid lines times the number of
pub/sub lines for each key.  i changed the list command to spit out
various versions of the above.  once i did that it selected correctly
the first time:

pub:f:4096:20:F960636AB35EAE31:2000-07-26:2004-07-11:72:f:Paul Jakma 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]::esc:

which merges the pub:f:1024 line with the sub:f:4096 line.  now,
newer versions of mutt apparently have this solved.  is this true?
and is anyone using mutt and pgp-hooks just fine?  how are your pgp_
commands set?

kevin

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copy to maildirs

2002-07-18 Thread Doug Wright

I have postfix and procmail setup to deliver mail to maildirs. Mutt reads
the maildirs just fine. when i want to move a message to another folder,
mutt will only copy it to a mbx. I realize that I could add one entry to my
.muttrc but I just don't know what that would be. I am a newbie, so you may
have to speak slowly. Thanks for your help.

Doug



Re: copy to maildirs

2002-07-18 Thread Michael Maibaum

* Doug Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-18 22:11]:

Hi,

 I have postfix and procmail setup to deliver mail to maildirs. Mutt reads
 the maildirs just fine. when i want to move a message to another folder,
 mutt will only copy it to a mbx. I realize that I could add one entry to my
 .muttrc but I just don't know what that would be. I am a newbie, so you may
 have to speak slowly. Thanks for your help.

set mbox_type=Maildir

this sets the default mailbox to be Maildir, so newly created mailboxes
take that type. 

HTH

Michael

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mailboxes w/ human readable file sizes

2002-07-18 Thread Jens Porup


I'd like to configure my mutt so that when I change mailboxes,
it gives me the mailbox sizes in human readable format, like
the -h flag in ls, for example. Size in bytes isn't particularly
meaningful.

Any suggestions? Is this possible in mutt?

Jens
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