Re: Pb avec Vim

2002-10-14 Thread Loïc Minier

darkveggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mon, Oct 14, 2002:

 Ahem. Pardon ?

   Je disais qu'il était plus poli d'envoyer des messages sous son
 vrai nom, plutôt qu'un pseudo. Mais ce n'est pas l'endroit pour ce
 troll. Simplement, ça m'énerve donc je le dis.


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Re: Changing From header

2002-10-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Brian Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-10-14 05:44]:
I've been looking around for a painless way to modify the From header based on 
which account I am using.

Mutt doesn't know about your accounts. I do two things:
- I let Mutt set the user based on the receiver:
send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
- I have a set of aliases for this, starting with me-. To enter/change
an address, I enter:
me-tab
to see a menu of my addresses.


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Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread Udo Schweigert

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 14:21:44 +0700, budsz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was compile mutt-1.5.1i in FreeBSD box, I got some patching for
 compress folder too, So I followed the the instruction for to do that.
 but I got some error message like this:
 
 ---cut
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:108: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:112: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 ---cut
 
 I think the problem is my version GCC to old, so I did to upgrade my
 GCC and compile again, it was nothing get solution. How about this..?
 

Which FreeBSD version do you use? Is it FreeBSD-5.0-current?

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Re: Changing From header

2002-10-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Brian Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been looking around for a painless way to modify the From header based
 on which account I am using.

What do you mean by account? Don't you have a .muttrc by account,
in which case a my_hdr From: ... is sufficient?

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Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread Holger Weiss

* budsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 14:21]:
 I was compile mutt-1.5.1i in FreeBSD box, I got some patching for
 compress folder too, So I followed the the instruction for to do that.
 but I got some error message like this:
 
 ---cut
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:108: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:112: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 ---cut
 
 I think the problem is my version GCC to old, so I did to upgrade my
 GCC and compile again, it was nothing get solution. How about this..?

That's actually off topic here, because gcc is complaining about the use
of `long long' in the FreeBSD header file /usr/include/stdlib.h, not about
anything in mutt. However, does mutt not build successfully? If it
doesn't, there must be other error messages -- _this_ warning is harmless
and you can simply ignore it. See:

   http://groups.google.de/groups?th=2ff2de81cdfb4a98
   http://groups.google.de/groups?th=6adc4c84fbb6a8d1

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pgp_retainable_sigs

2002-10-14 Thread Peter Harkins


I'm using mutt with gpg, and I can't see that setting or unsetting
pgp_retainable_sigs has any effect. I've read about what it's supposed to do
and poked around some, but I'm still hazy on what it's for. Could someone
explain?




Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread budsz

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:54:21AM +0200, Udo Schweigert wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 14:21:44 +0700, budsz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was compile mutt-1.5.1i in FreeBSD box, I got some patching for
 compress folder too, So I followed the the instruction for to do that.
 but I got some error message like this:
 
 ---cut
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:108: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:112: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
 ---cut
 
 I think the problem is my version GCC to old, so I did to upgrade my
 GCC and compile again, it was nothing get solution. How about this..?
 

Which FreeBSD version do you use? Is it FreeBSD-5.0-current?


This problem appeared in FreeBSD 4.6 STABLE.  

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Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread Udo Schweigert

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 16:42:56 +0700, budsz wrote:
 
 This problem appeared in FreeBSD 4.6 STABLE.  
 

Not reproducable here (on 4.7-STABLE). The best way on FreeBSD is to use
the port /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel; to use compressed folders do:

cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel; make -DWITH_MUTT_COMPRESSED_FOLDERS

You need of course an up to date ports tree for this.

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mutt 1.4 -- where does mutt write error messages to?

2002-10-14 Thread Lukas Ruf

Dear all,

I would like to know where mutt writes error messages to.  Reading the
man pages did not help me understand how to set on debug messages.

Thanks,

Lukas
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Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread Holger Weiss

* Udo Schweigert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 12:13]:
 On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 16:42:56 +0700, budsz wrote:
  
  This problem appeared in FreeBSD 4.6 STABLE.  
 
 Not reproducable here (on 4.7-STABLE).

Not for me either when compiling your `mutt-devel' port, but same thing
when compiling mutt 1.4 (and other ports):

| holger@maude ~ 519: uname -a
| FreeBSD maude.zedat.fu-berlin.de 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: 
| Fri Oct 11 19:10:06 CEST 2002
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAUDE  i386
| holger@maude ~ 520: gcc -v
| Using builtin specs.
| gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]
| holger@maude ~ 521: cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt
| holger@maude mail/mutt 522: make
| [...]
| cc -I/usr/local/include -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/mutt\
| -DSYSCONFDIR=\/usr/local/etc\  -DBINDIR=\/usr/local/bin\
| -DMUTTLOCALEDIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I.
| -I./imap -Iintl  -I./intl -I/usr/local/include  -Wall -pedantic -O -pipe
| -march=pentiumpro -c makedoc.c
| In file included from makedoc.c:34:
| /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
| /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long'
| [...]

As I said, this can be ignored.

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Re: mutt 1.4 -- where does mutt write error messages to?

2002-10-14 Thread Sven Guckes

* Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 10:40]:
 I would like to know where mutt writes error messages to.
 Reading the man pages did not help me
 understand how to set on debug messages.

mutt does not have a debug mode - yet.

Sven



Re: function executed when entering a box

2002-10-14 Thread John Buttery

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 00:40:18 +0200]:
* Bernard Massot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-12 23:41]:
 mutt default's behavior is :
 - if the box has no messages matching ~N or ~O,
   go on last message in the bottom of the index (right for me)
 - if there are some messages matching ~N,
   go on the 1st message matching ~N (right for me)
 - if there are some messages matching ~O,
   go on the 1st message matching ~O (right for me)
 - if there are both messages matching ~N and ~O,
   go on the 1st message matching ~N (that's what I don't
   like, I'd like it to go on the 1st message matching ~O)
 
i'd limit to (~N|~O) and then jump to the first entry -
but this might be either ~N or ~O - depending on the case.
anyway, i suppose this requires a change of the code...

  Hmm...not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, here, but I think
what he's really asking for (whether he knows it or not, hehe) is a
function next-new-or-unread (in quotes because there is no such
function (yet)).  Just saying, because it sounds like he's asking for a
feature I've silently wanted for a long time.  :)
  Assuming this is true, there are two ways I found to solve this
problem (although one doesn't actually solve the problem per se):

  1) Create a recursive macro that, on the first invocation, jumps to
 the first unread message in a mailbox, and then reconfigures itself
 to jump to the first new message.  When invoked the second time, it
 jumps to the first new message, then reconfigures itself to jump to
 the first unread.  Then you execute the macro twice and see which
 message is the one you want (in my case, it came down to which one
 came first in the index).  This doesn't technically answer the
 actual question, but it does fake it a lot faster than typing it
 all in by hand all the time.  :)

  2) The other solution, which isn't actually a solution but may work
 for you, is to put unset mark_old in your .muttrc file.  This
 will cause mutt to not even differentiate between new and
 unread mail, and thus any call to the next-new function will by
 definition also target unread mail.

  Which do I use?  Hah, well, I can't stand doing #2 and haven't gotten
around to doing #1 yet, so neither.  :)  However, here's an example of a
recursive macro, so if you (or someone else) decides to put together #1,
you can have a road map on how the concept of self-rewriting macros
happens:

macro index ESCJ ':my_hdr X-Priority: 5enter:my_hdr
X-MSMail-Priority: Lowenter:macro index y ESCKenter' submacro for
y

macro index ESCK ':my_hdr X-Priority: 1enter:my_hdr
X-MSMail-Priority: Highenter:macro index y ESCLenter' submacro
for y

macro index ESCL ':my_hdr X-Priority: 3enter:my_hdr
X-MSMail-Priority: Normalenter:macro index y ESCMenter' submacro
for y

macro index ESCM ':unmy_hdr X-Priorityenter:unmy_hdr
X-MSMail-Priorityenter:macro index y ESCJenter' submacro for y

macro index y ESCJ Toggle Priority

  This is a set of four macros...one head macro, where you press y to
cycle through Priority settings, and three support macros which
actually change the header and refer to each other in sequence.  I used
the sequences ESCJKLM for the submacros simply because they were a
pain to type (so I know I won't be wanting them for real key
assignments that I'll actually be using directly...you don't ever call
the submacros directly).  Let me know if you have any questions.

  Actually, this brings out a couple of questions of my own.  :)

  1) Is there a command to echo text to the info line arbitrarily?
 You know, the part of the window where it says PGP signature
 successfully verified or Committing changes, etc.  The bottom
 line.  I'd really like to edit this set of macros, and some others,
 so that they print messages like Priority set to HIGH when you
 run them.
  2) Is it possible to get mutt to put the word wrap character at the
 end of the continued line (like Emacs) rather than the beginning of
 the continuation?  Example:

This is a very long line of text which the user should have wrapped
+before it got to my client, but didn't, so now my mail client has to
+deal with them instead.

  (The above is what mutt does now)

This is a very long line of text which the user should have wrapped+
before it got to my client, but didn't, so now my mail client has to+
deal with them instead.

  (The above is what I would like it to do)

  Yes, I realize we are now entering a level of anal that's extreme
even for this group, but I had to throw it out. :) BTW, note that the
above two examples above are both pre-wrapped, the + signs were put in
manually by me; your word wrap is NOT broken. :)

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Re: Problem compile mutt in FreeBSD

2002-10-14 Thread Udo Schweigert

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:39:44 +0200, Holger Weiss wrote:
 Not for me either when compiling your `mutt-devel' port, but same thing
 when compiling mutt 1.4 (and other ports):
 

My mail/mutt-devel port deletes -pedantic from the CFLAGS in the configure.in,
which the mail/mutt port does not.

 As I said, this can be ignored.

Yes.

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Re: send hooks again .. not working

2002-10-14 Thread Toby Coleridge

On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 09:26:19AM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote:
 At 15:18 +0200 12 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-12 00:06]:
   I thought that you need to use set from= in send-hooks
   instead of using my_hdr, but I might misremember.
 
 No, it's the other way around.  By the time send-hooks are applied to a
 message $from has already been fetched and it won't be looked at again
 for that message.  my_hdr on the other hand can still override the From:
 header that mutt generates.
 
  yep - the From: as set by reverse_name feature will
  be overridden by all From: lines as set with my_hdr.
  9yet another entry for the faq...)
 
 This is correct, except for the first word.
 
so what would this mean with respect to this sendhook:

I have the following so far:
send-hook . unmy_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
send-hook '~C @lboro.ac.uk' 'my_hdr From: me@myuniaddress'

Thanks
Toby.



Re: send hooks again .. not working

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Tatge

Toby Coleridge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 send-hook . unmy_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ^^^

Leave that out.

 send-hook '~C @lboro.ac.uk' 'my_hdr From: me@myuniaddress'

That should work.

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Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change

2002-10-14 Thread Steve Kennedy

On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:

 a few seconds ago, I wanted to re-subscribe under a different name on 
 http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html
 A thing I did not like there was the way how you offer the different
 mailing lists:  You offer them as radio-buttons instead of checkboxes.
 Why?  Using mozilla 1.0, I was not unable to uncheck a radio-button
 without pressing Reset.  This deleted also my email address.
 Would anyone of the administrators mind changing the radio-buttons
 into checkboxes?

The idea was that you should only sub to the main list or the
digest list (i.e. either/or) which is why radio buttons are used.

You're the first to complain.

Steve

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Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change

2002-10-14 Thread Lukas Ruf

Steve,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Steve Kennedy wrote:

 The idea was that you should only sub to the main list or the
 digest list (i.e. either/or) which is why radio buttons are used.
 
That's clear.  But what if I want to sub to several list at the same
time and then change my mind.

it doesn't matter...

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Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change

2002-10-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-10-14 13:36]:
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
 a few seconds ago, I wanted to re-subscribe under a different name on 
 http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html
 A thing I did not like there was the way how you offer the different
 mailing lists:  You offer them as radio-buttons instead of checkboxes.
 Why?  Using mozilla 1.0, I was not unable to uncheck a radio-button
 without pressing Reset.  This deleted also my email address.
 Would anyone of the administrators mind changing the radio-buttons
 into checkboxes?

The idea was that you should only sub to the main list or the
digest list (i.e. either/or) which is why radio buttons are used.

You're the first to complain.

I've had the same tiny problem.


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~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi,

i have a problem concerning the MIME-type handling. Since i often get
mail which is HTML-formated, I created a .mailcap whith 
text/html; links %s in it (described in 5.3 of the mutt-manual).
Now, when I try to watch a html-mail, links displays the html-code, but
doesn't interpreting it. I tried it with lynx also ...the same.

whats wrong?

thx for your help, and sorry for bad english.

bye,
richard

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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Sascha Huedepohl

Hi, 

* Richard Cattien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Now, when I try to watch a html-mail, links displays the html-code, but
 doesn't interpreting it. I tried it with lynx also ...the same.

try:
# HTML
text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html


HTH  HAND
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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Sascha Huedepohl

* Sascha Huedepohl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 HTH  HAND
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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi,

  Now, when I try to watch a html-mail, links displays the html-code, but
  doesn't interpreting it. I tried it with lynx also ...the same.
 
 try:
 # HTML
 text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html

well, this works fine, but could you explain that? thx!

But another one, i really like to use links as my html-mail-viewer, so
I simply changed lynx to links ...but... mutt starts lynx either? Am I
stupid? Of course I restarted mutt!

bye,
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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Sascha Huedepohl

* Richard Cattien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  # HTML
  text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 well, this works fine, but could you explain that? thx!

please rtfm
man lynx
man mailcap

 But another one, i really like to use links as my html-mail-viewer, so
 I simply changed lynx to links ...but... mutt starts lynx either?

links is a softlink to lynks?
???

regards
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Re: mutt 1.4 -- where does mutt write error messages to?

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi,

 I would like to know where mutt writes error messages to.  Reading the
 man pages did not help me understand how to set on debug messages.

mutt has errors? :-)

bye,
richard

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Re: mutt 1.4 -- where does mutt write error messages to?

2002-10-14 Thread Lukas Ruf

Richard,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Richard Cattien wrote:

 mutt has errors? :-)
 
not I know of ;-)

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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread René Clerc

* Sascha Huedepohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-10-2002 16:29]:

  But another one, i really like to use links as my html-mail-viewer, so
  I simply changed lynx to links ...but... mutt starts lynx either?
 
 links is a softlink to lynks?
 ???

No, no, no. Links is a different browser. I use the following entries
(both) in my mailcap:

text/html;  links %s; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html;  links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

These: 

- allow me to view html e-mails in the pager
- actually fire up links when I 'v'iew an html attachment

HTH,

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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi Rene,

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:45:10PM +0200, René Clerc wrote:
  links is a softlink to lynks?
  ???
 
 No, no, no. Links is a different browser. I use the following entries
 (both) in my mailcap:
 
 text/html;  links %s; nametemplate=%s.html
 text/html;  links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
 
 These: 
 
 - allow me to view html e-mails in the pager
 - actually fire up links when I 'v'iew an html attachment

Hmm, this sounds exactly like what i want, but when displaying
html-mails i still get that nasty 
[-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] 

here is my config:

~/.muttrc
=
#
# rickskis .muttrc

#
# aliases
source ~/.aliases
set alias_file = ~/.aliases

#
# headers
ignore *
unignore To: Cc: Bcc: From: Subject: X-Mailer: User-Agent: Date:
Content-Type:
hdr_order From: To: Cc: Subject: Date: Content-Type: X-Mailer:
User-Agent:

#
# sort order
set sort=threads

#
# editor
set editor=/usr/local/bin/vim -u .vimrc_mutt

#
# outgoing messages mailbox
set record=~/Mail/sent

#
# mailboxes
mailboxes ~/Mail/fooblah [...]

#
# colors
color normalwhite   black   
color indicator brightyellowred
color tree  brightyellowblack   
color statusbrightwhite blue
color hdrdefaultbrightred   black
color quotedgreen   black

~/.mailcap
==
# HTML
text/html;  links %s; nametemplate=%s.html  
text/html;  links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

bye,
richard

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Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread Luke Ross

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:21:50PM +0200, Richard Cattien wrote:
 
 Hmm, this sounds exactly like what i want, but when displaying
 html-mails i still get that nasty 
 [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] 
 
 here is my config:
 
 ~/.muttrc

Use auto_view text/html IIRC.

Luke



Re: ~/.mailcap confusion

2002-10-14 Thread René Clerc

* Richard Cattien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-10-2002 18:21]:

  text/html;  links %s; nametemplate=%s.html
  text/html;  links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
  
  These: 
  
  - allow me to view html e-mails in the pager
  - actually fire up links when I 'v'iew an html attachment
 
 Hmm, this sounds exactly like what i want, but when displaying
 html-mails i still get that nasty 
 [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] 

Forgot to mention: if you want the html e-mails to be displayed in the
pager, you'll have to add:

auto_view text/html

to your ~/.muttrc.

(hope) this helps,

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Re: iconv stuff on solaris still unresolved

2002-10-14 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.10.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Sven Dogbert Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 so - what *is* required then?

I don't know: I install Solaris (with all the language options), I
compile mutt. Mutt works.


 well - +HAVE_ICONV, for sure.
 but is +ICONV_NONTRANS? what?

I don't know. Do you want me to find out what ICONV_NONTRANS is and
report back? I only pasted it because you did, and I figured you'd be
irritated if I didn't include mine. You don't really have room to be
snotty today. Today it's *your* problem that someone else is trying to
contribute information to.


 besides, you did not specify
 the kind of solaris you use.

No, I didn't. I probably should have, but neglected to because I've
had success on all recent revs -- some minor issues on 7, but it works
perfectly on 8, which is what you use. No trouble along these lines on 9
beta, either. I haven't upgraded to 9 FCS yet.


I'll add that I don't have any particularly strange libraries linked.
The usual Sun base and networking libraries, libgen for regexes. I
suppose you might not have libintl (mine does, of course), but that
would be very strange on your side.


Sven, if you have a question, please ask. But don't get irritable
because I didn't dissect my installation to find out why yours doesn't
work. Perhaps you should post your configure output, or mail it to me
directly. I'd be glad to look over it, if you like.

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be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi,

is there a way to be ``subscribed'' on a mailinglist in ~/.muttrc but
not change the view in the index, say to keep seeing who sent the mail
to the list?

The reason for why i want this is, that i'm already sorting my mail via
procmail, so every list gets a seperate folder, so i would prefer the
normal view where i can see who sent the mail in the index and don't
need to open it for this. But i still want to use the list-reply feature
(L)

good example is this mailinglist...

any ideas?

bye,
richard

-- 
Richard `rickski' Cattien [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: mutt 1.4 -- where does mutt write error messages to?

2002-10-14 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.10.14, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Sven Dogbert Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 10:40]:
  I would like to know where mutt writes error messages to.
  Reading the man pages did not help me
  understand how to set on debug messages.
 
 mutt does not have a debug mode - yet.

Yes, it does. You have to compile with --enable-debug, then run with
-dN, where N is a number from 1-4 indicating how fine-grained you want
to get. (I think it only cares about 1-4 -- I think all numbers higher
than 4 give the same result as 4 -- but I could be wrong.)

The output goes into ~/.muttdebug0. .muttdebug0 is renamed to
.muttdebug1, etc. Almost like pine.

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Re: multiple secret keys

2002-10-14 Thread René Clerc

* Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-10-2002 18:37]:

 So my question of the day is, were I to have multiple secret keys, how
 do I make mutt choose, on an ad-hoc basis,  which one to use to sign
 my e-mail, or to encrypt to (as in, encrypt to self)?

Check out $pgp_sign_as.

Check out $pgp-hook.

(which should be accessible through 'man muttrc', and the local doc/)

-- 
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A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention,
with the possible exceptions of handguns and Tequilla.
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Re: be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread René Clerc

* Richard Cattien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-10-2002 18:48]:

 Hi,
 
 is there a way to be ``subscribed'' on a mailinglist in ~/.muttrc but
 not change the view in the index, say to keep seeing who sent the mail
 to the list?
 
 The reason for why i want this is, that i'm already sorting my mail via
 procmail, so every list gets a seperate folder, so i would prefer the
 normal view where i can see who sent the mail in the index and don't
 need to open it for this. But i still want to use the list-reply feature
 (L)

man muttrc
/index_format

(hint: replace the 'L' by an 'F')

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

In theory, there is no difference between theory
and practice. But, in practice, there is.
-Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut



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Re: be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread dan radom

* Richard Cattien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is there a way to be ``subscribed'' on a mailinglist in ~/.muttrc but
 not change the view in the index, say to keep seeing who sent the mail
 to the list?
 
set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-30.30F   %-25.25L (%c) %s

will display botht he list and the true sender.  see the muttrc manpage
for more info.

dan



Re: be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Cattien

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:48:33PM +0200, Richard Cattien wrote:
 is there a way to be ``subscribed'' on a mailinglist in ~/.muttrc but
 not change the view in the index, say to keep seeing who sent the mail
 to the list?
 
 The reason for why i want this is, that i'm already sorting my mail via
 procmail, so every list gets a seperate folder, so i would prefer the
 normal view where i can see who sent the mail in the index and don't
 need to open it for this. But i still want to use the list-reply feature
 (L)
 
 good example is this mailinglist...
 
 any ideas?

hrmmm, I tried ``lists'' instead of ``subscribed'' this seem to work,
but now I'm confused, is the diffrence between ``lists'' and
``subscribe'' just in the different view of the index??? I've read the
apropriate section in the manual, but there's no real distinction
between the two...

bye,
richard

-- 
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Re: be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread Joshua Crawford

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:48:33PM +0200, Richard Cattien wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is there a way to be ``subscribed'' on a mailinglist in ~/.muttrc but
 not change the view in the index, say to keep seeing who sent the mail
 to the list?
 
 The reason for why i want this is, that i'm already sorting my mail via
 procmail, so every list gets a seperate folder, so i would prefer the
 normal view where i can see who sent the mail in the index and don't
 need to open it for this. But i still want to use the list-reply feature
 (L)
 
 good example is this mailinglist...
 
 any ideas?

Change your index_format. Specifically, use %F instead of %L. Here's mine,
if you're interested:
set index_format=%4C %Z %[%e/%m/%y] %-15.15F (%4l) {%2M} %s
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Sex, Religion and Mystery. One student handed in the following story: My
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Re: send hooks again .. not working

2002-10-14 Thread Toby Coleridge

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:11:17PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:
 Toby Coleridge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
  send-hook . unmy_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ^^^
 
 Leave that out.
 
  send-hook '~C @lboro.ac.uk' 'my_hdr From: me@myuniaddress'
 
 That should work.
 
 Michael
 -- 
 Avoid the Gates of Hell.  Use Linux
 (Unknown source)
 
 PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key

Hi Guys,

I have an update the send-hook works when replying to an email sent to me at any 
address, however when I create a new email if the address contains an @lboro then it 
doesnt rewrite the from: field any ideas or is this intended if so how can I work 
round it?

Thanks
Toby.



hook based on bounce target

2002-10-14 Thread Hanspeter Roth

Hello,

is there a hook based on the bounce target?
Or is there a `bounce target pattern' for send-hook?
It seems to me that ~A in a send-hook has no effect with bounce.

-Hanspeter



Some UTF-8 issues

2002-10-14 Thread Anders Helmersson

I am using mutt in utf-8 mode (mutt-utf8_1.4.0-4_i386.deb with
LC_CTYPE=sv_SE.UTF-8). Together with xterm and vim this works very
well. Both european and asian letters show up correctly (in the same
terminal) as long as they have the correct mime charset.

However, if the charset is not defined, or even worse, set to ascii,
the mail shows up with unrecognized characters (?, dashed box or as
\xxx).

In the pager I can fix this with a display filter or by the set
mime-encoding (^E) command. Incorrect (non-ascii) headers are more of
a problem.

When replying to an incorrectly coded mail both the to: and
subject-field may become broken (after the first non-ascii character).
The lines in the index menu may also appear unreadible. Is there a
nice solution to this problem?

Another (cosmetic) issue with utf-8 is in the query menu. If the names
include non-ascii characters, the following columns become ragged
(unaligned). Is this a bug (strlen instead wcwidth in query.c) or is it
due to my terminal setting?

Anders



Re: be ,,subscribed'' on a mailinglist but not change view of index

2002-10-14 Thread Sven Guckes

* Richard Cattien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-14 17:17]:
 I tried ``lists'' instead of ``subscribed'' this seem to work,
 but now I'm confused, is the diffrence between ``lists'' and
 ``subscribe'' just in the different view of the index???
 I've read the apropriate section in the manual,
 but there's no real distinction between the two...

use lists address   when you are *not* subscribed and *want* CCs
use subscribe address   when you   *are*   subscribed and do not need CCs
- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html

Sven

-- 
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 sure sign of a diseased mind.   -- Terry Pratchett in Eric




expunge on imap servers

2002-10-14 Thread David Bear

Maybe I'm trying to be too pine-ish -- but I'm expecting to expunge messages marked 
for deletion.  Does mutt do it that way or do I need to issue some other command to 
really remove message deleted on an imap server?

thnkx.





Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change

2002-10-14 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:50:52PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-10-14 13:36]:
 On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
  a few seconds ago, I wanted to re-subscribe under a different name on 
  http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html
  A thing I did not like there was the way how you offer the different
  mailing lists:  You offer them as radio-buttons instead of checkboxes.
  Why?  Using mozilla 1.0, I was not unable to uncheck a radio-button
  without pressing Reset.  This deleted also my email address.
  Would anyone of the administrators mind changing the radio-buttons
  into checkboxes?
 
 The idea was that you should only sub to the main list or the
 digest list (i.e. either/or) which is why radio buttons are used.
 
 You're the first to complain.
 
 I've had the same tiny problem.

I recall seeing some comments to the effect that some non-compliant browsers
allow one to submit a form with no radio buttons checked.

-- 
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http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net




Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change

2002-10-14 Thread Lukas Ruf

Thomas,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 
 I recall seeing some comments to the effect that some non-compliant browsers
 allow one to submit a form with no radio buttons checked.
 
at least my mozilla 1.0 running on a Linux 2.4.18 box started with no
buttons checked ,-)

wbr,
-- 
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http://www.lpr.ch http://www.maremma.ch
http://www.{{topsy,nodeos}.net,{promethos,netbeast,rawip}.org}
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Re: expunge on imap servers

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Tatge

David Bear ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 Maybe I'm trying to be too pine-ish -- but I'm expecting to expunge
 messages marked for deletion. Does mutt do it that way or do I need
 to issue some other command to really remove message deleted on an
 imap server?

Doesn't sync-mailbox bound to $ solve your problem?

HTH,

Michael
-- 
I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody.  It doesn't generate revenue.
(Dave '-ddt-` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux)

PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key



Re: Changing From header

2002-10-14 Thread John Iverson

* On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Brian Bray wrote:

 I've been looking around for a painless way to modify the From header based on 
 which account I am using.

Maybe you just need to set $alternates and $reverse_name.

-- 
John



RE: iconv stuff on solaris still unresolved

2002-10-14 Thread John Haviland

I recently installed mutt (1.4) on a number of solaris machines: sol7 and
sol8. I needed libiconv and I certainly had to be root, regardless of my
target. It was not a simple install but it did work reliably once I did the
configure correctly per below:

I first set LD_RUN_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/local/lib

./configure --disable-nls --enable-buffy --enable-locales-fix --enable-pop -
-with-regex --prefix=.

I guess the with-regex is sort of critical for solaris.

Hope this helps.

john

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of David Champion
Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 02:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: iconv stuff on solaris still unresolved


* On 2002.10.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Sven Dogbert Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so - what *is* required then?

I don't know: I install Solaris (with all the language options), I
compile mutt. Mutt works.


 well - +HAVE_ICONV, for sure.
 but is +ICONV_NONTRANS? what?

I don't know. Do you want me to find out what ICONV_NONTRANS is and
report back? I only pasted it because you did, and I figured you'd be
irritated if I didn't include mine. You don't really have room to be
snotty today. Today it's *your* problem that someone else is trying to
contribute information to.


 besides, you did not specify
 the kind of solaris you use.

No, I didn't. I probably should have, but neglected to because I've
had success on all recent revs -- some minor issues on 7, but it works
perfectly on 8, which is what you use. No trouble along these lines on 9
beta, either. I haven't upgraded to 9 FCS yet.


I'll add that I don't have any particularly strange libraries linked.
The usual Sun base and networking libraries, libgen for regexes. I
suppose you might not have libintl (mine does, of course), but that
would be very strange on your side.


Sven, if you have a question, please ask. But don't get irritable
because I didn't dissect my installation to find out why yours doesn't
work. Perhaps you should post your configure output, or mail it to me
directly. I'd be glad to look over it, if you like.

--
 -D.We establised a fine coffee. What everybody can say
 Sun Project, APC/UCCO  TASTY! It's fresh, so-mild, with some special
coffee's
 University of Chicago  bitter and sourtaste. LET'S HAVE SUCH A COFFEE!
NOW!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Please love CAFE MIAMI. Many thanks.




Re: Changing From header

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Herman

On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:44:37PM -0500, Brian Bray wrote:

I've been looking around for a painless way to modify the From header based on 
which account I am using.


Why not just create some macros to change the from: header?  For
example:

macro compose f2 edit-fromkill-lineYour Name\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n

macro compose f3 edit-fromkill-lineYour Name\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n

And so on.

I personally use folder-hooks for this purpose.  I figure if I'm
reading work e-mail, I'll use my work address to reply and if I'm
reading personal mail, my personal address.  I do use procmail to sort
my mail into various folders.

HTH.

-- 
Michael Herman



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Re: mutt FAQ amendment

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Elkins

savanna wrote:
 In the FAQ there's a procmail recipe for converting old style pgp
 signatures to new style multi-part mime. The very first line should
 indicate that it's a filter recipe, not a delivery recipe:
 
 ie 
 
 :0 f
 
 and not
 
 :0
 
 In this way all messages can be filtered before passing onto other
 recipes. I've attached my .procmail so you can see it in context.
 
 # convert old-style pgp to multipart-mime
 # notice f at start - filter
 :0 f
 * !^Content-Type: message/
 * !^Content-Type: multipart/
 * !^Content-Type: application/pgp
 {
 :0 fBw
 * ^-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
 * ^-END PGP MESSAGE-
 | formail -i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encrypt
 
 :0 fBw
 * ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 * ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 * ^-END PGP SIGNATURE-
 | formail -i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign
 }

I personally do not use this recipe, but I wouldn't think the 'f' flag
on the top-level recipe would matter since the action is not a pipe.
There is nothing in the man page that I can see that says what the 'f'
flag does when applied to a grouping recipe.  Does it really not work
for you when you use it as documented in PGP-Notes.txt?