Re: mailing list config - two questions

2021-02-25 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 05:46:04PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> 
> When is it useful to have a mailing list to which
> you are not subscribed "known"?

IIRC, the original purpose was mostly to setup the (not ever ratified as
a real standard, and not commonly used now) mail-followup-to header
appropriately, that is, if you're subscribed and use "list-reply", the
mail-followup-to header gets set to just the list's address, whereas if
it's "known" only, it would set m-f-t to your email _and_ the list
address when you use "list-reply".

Since the draft, from what I can see, expired in 1998, and never became
a standard, one could make the argument that it's not really sensible
for Mutt to continue supporting it, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

w



mailing list config - two questions

2021-02-25 Thread Jon LaBadie

While researching my response in another topic I came
across the "subscribe" list that I don't recall seeing
previously.  I've been using the "lists" list for the
same purpose.

As I read it, "lists" items are known mailing lists
and possibly subscribed to while "subscribe" items
mailing lists to which I am subscribed and thus by
default are known.

When is it useful to have a mailing list to which
you are not subscribed "known"?


My mutt index typically shows the poster's name.
But my own posts do not show my name.  This is the
situation for other mailing list also, not just mutt-user
so I must be composing my header's incorrectly.

How should the From:/To:/??? headers be composed so that
mutt picks up my name for display in the index?

--
Jon H. LaBadie mut...@jgcomp.com
 11226 South Shore Rd.  (703) 787-0688 (H)
 Reston, VA  20190  (703) 935-6720 (C)


Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 08:55:45AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 25Feb2021 09:56, Will Yardley  wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote:

> >> Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address
> >> shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a
> >> 'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration
> >> setting should be the fallback.

> >I do something like this:
> >
> >set use_from
> >set from="lu...@example.net"
> >send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:'
> >set reverse_name
> >alternates '(.*@example\.net|someuser@example\.com)'
> 
> reverse_name and alternates: this is only effective for personal email, 
> meaning email with one of your own addresses in the to/cc. Most mailing 
> lists do not do that, so there's no way to "reverse" from the to/cc to 
> the from of the reply.
> 
> You want Jon's send-hook based approach, setting from etc based on the 
> target address of the message you're composing.

Sorry, yes, I use that approach as well for lists - just in a different
section of my config

e.g.,

send-hook '~C ^mutt-users@mutt\.org$' 'my_hdr From: Will Yardley <...>'

w



Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Feb2021 09:56, Will Yardley  wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote:
>> Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address
>> shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a
>> 'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration
>> setting should be the fallback.
>
>I do something like this:
>
>set use_from
>set from="lu...@example.net"
>send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:'
>set reverse_name
>alternates '(.*@example\.net|someuser@example\.com)'

reverse_name and alternates: this is only effective for personal email, 
meaning email with one of your own addresses in the to/cc. Most mailing 
lists do not do that, so there's no way to "reverse" from the to/cc to 
the from of the reply.

You want Jon's send-hook based approach, setting from etc based on the 
target address of the message you're composing.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread Jon LaBadie

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote:

Hi

I am subscribed to several mailinglists and use different email
addresses for them, for various reasons.
Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address
shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a
'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration
setting should be the fallback.

I somehow remember to have read years ago, that somebody has built a
workaround for this issue by hacking something into VIM with some code
completion feature that gives at least a way to choose an address from a
list, but I cannot find the reference to that anymore.

Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.


In a separate file I keep a bunch of mailing list send-hooks something
like the following that is sourced into ~/.muttrc :

send-hook 'mutt-users@mutt.org' 'my_hdr From: "Jon LaBadie" '

Depending on the mailing list I may also have a similar line for
the Reply-To: header and a "set signature=..." to specify a unique
signature file.


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Jon H. LaBadie j...@labadie.us
 11226 South Shore Rd.  (703) 787-0688 (H)
 Reston, VA  20190  (703) 935-6720 (C)


Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote:
> Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address 
> shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a 
> 'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration 
> setting should be the fallback.

I do something like this:

set use_from
set from="lu...@example.net"
send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:'
set reverse_name
alternates '(.*@example\.net|someuser@example\.com)'

/w



Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್
12021/01/15 04:66.00 ನಲ್ಲಿ, Alexander Huemer  ಬರೆದರು:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am subscribed to several mailinglists and use different email
> addresses for them, for various reasons.
> Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address
> shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a
> 'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration
> setting should be the fallback.
> 
> I somehow remember to have read years ago, that somebody has built a
> workaround for this issue by hacking something into VIM with some code
> completion feature that gives at least a way to choose an address from a
> list, but I cannot find the reference to that anymore.
> 
> Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.
> 
> -Alex

set reverse_name=yes might do the trick (I had asked a similar question earlier 
and some kind soul pointed me to the right option!).

HTH!

- Chiraag
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Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

2021-02-25 Thread Alexander Huemer
Hi

I am subscribed to several mailinglists and use different email 
addresses for them, for various reasons.
Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address 
shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a 
'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration 
setting should be the fallback.

I somehow remember to have read years ago, that somebody has built a 
workaround for this issue by hacking something into VIM with some code 
completion feature that gives at least a way to choose an address from a 
list, but I cannot find the reference to that anymore.

Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.

-Alex