Re: how does simple commenting work
Thank you all for your comments. [24.07.2002] Sven Guckes -- : * Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-24 15:33]: Suppose I have a text which may begin with [ \t]+ blahblah blahblah and I need to define a special comment marker like note1 blahblah note1 no blahblah note1 use blub instead blahblah and further I want this comment marker to be auto-inserted whenever I do enter, what parts would I need for this? set comments+=note1 set formatoptions+=r That gave me the idea what to try next. Solved now. before: autocmd FileType MyType setlocal com+=b:note1 done : autocmd FileType MyType set com+=b:note1 (not yet done: homework learn proper set/setlocal usage) no fsking way! welcome to my killfile. *plonk* fsking: not present in my dictionary plonk : not present in my dictionary Sven [no remorse for anti-spam losers!] I must not understand all this, must I? -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
how does simple commenting work
Now I spent a whole day in searching all my .vim files, reading all through the :help stuff and used my mailarchive to get a clue - either I am missing simply a part of the whole puzzle or I am just too insert whatever to understand. Supposed I have a text which may begin with [ \t]+ blahblah blahblah and I need to define a special comment marker like note1 blahblah note1 no blahblah note1 use blub instead blahblah and further I want this comment marker to be auto-inserted whenever I do enter, what parts would I need for this? The whole stuff works with mail just on its own, but I cannot find out what it is that makes it work. I have not auto- insert and gq also does not work like it should. Any help appreciated. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: color depending on To:
[29.04.02 01:45:36% +] Flavien -- : What I'm trying to match are headers like : Subject: Blah blah To: My Friend [EMAIL PROTECTED], Another [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Flavien [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joe Foobar [EMAIL PROTECTED], x [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] my [EMAIL PROTECTED] is lost in there. If it appears on the first line, it matches my regexp : color header red black To:.*myoldlogin\@myoldaddress.com Just a thought, why do you need your old address being matched in the to header? Does it make difference if you just leave out the To: part and try to catch simply your old address no matter where it is (old is old - or?) -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: language-problem
[03.04.02 09:54 +0200] Heiko Heil -- : I have compiled mutt v1.3.28i both on my Server (based on SuSE7.1) and on my Laptop (based on SuSE7.3). Now I have noticed that the mutt-version on the server runs in English language and the mutt-version on my laptop in German language. The language-settings (according to locale) only differ from the @euro-suffix. But I want both versions in German language. No network here, no Suse here, so just a guess, unverified hh@server:~ locale LANG=de_DE [snipped] I read this to be the locale of your server. I guess the locale of your laptop looks like LANG=de_DE@euro. 2 reasons I can think of: 1. check /usr/lib/locale directories having both de_DE and de_DE@euro 2. check both LANGUAGE variables -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: About the language for the mutt config tool
[08.03.02 00:03 +0100] Marco Fioretti -- : About this particular project: let's just do it in whatever language the majority of the volunteers is ALREADY proficient with, not with the one which the majority of the list thinks better for any reason. I do not agree to this, one thing I would ask you to consider: Take a language which you can expect to be present on minimal systems. Otherwise you might end up in dependencies which are no advantage for mutt. One of the advantages of console progs is that they do not need hundreds of extra languages installed to get them going. Speaking of installing a distro (which most beginners would do) those are already blown up enough, now imagine you would for example need a jre just for the mutt config tool .. -- speaking of compiling mutt yourself (which more experienced would do but which does not mean that they understand all the muttrc values) is even worse if (often seen) the documentation does not mention all dependencies. And as a result of that, it might happen that a user of netscape/kde/pine.. who has heard of mutts capabilities and wants to try that, will stay with his old one because the only alternate to those depencies would be vim+manual. Viewing from this point, perl would be a good choice and as far as I saw from former postings it might turn out to become perl. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: SMTP Authorization
[25.02.02 15:39 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) This kind of propaganda is unwillingly spread by *all* those products which try to put all-in-one. The more it is in, the more you loose if a single component does not work. The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). This is a very personal statement. For myself it is economical nonsense to waste a lot of money for online browsing if I can save the short download on my free disk space (try paying your bill from an empty bank account). -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: SMTP Authorization
[26.02.02 12:11 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Erika Pacholleck wrote: [25.02.02 15:39 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) This kind of propaganda is unwillingly spread by *all* those products which try to put all-in-one. The more it is in, the more you loose if a single component does not work. Oh? Will you fare any better if a _separately_ misonfigured procmail, fetchmail or postfix starts eating your mail _separately_? Guess what, if one, only one, of your dear small components start loosing mail the next small component will never see it anyway ;-) I am confident I would be able to misconfigure any of those one-in-all so that they loose your mail, too. But that's not what I ment. If your one-in-all-idiot-secure-configurable application hits only one bad block, you are lost. I just get ppp, fetchmail and vim running and that's it. The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). This is a very personal statement. For myself it is economical nonsense to waste a lot of money for online browsing if I can save the short download on my free disk space (try paying your bill from an empty bank account). It makes a lot of sense to _leave_ your mail on a server you trust and that has a real backup policy. My mail archive is too valuable to keep on a workstation, be it a laptop or a PeeCee. The point is the *remote* which for me as a private person with only a standalone machine and modem dialup is my ISP. This means, if I leave all my mail there, during browsing and reading I am online - the whole time, and this costs me a damned lot of money. So why the hell should I do it. Download is just a few minutes. And, generally, I only trust my own machine. Valuable data don't belong onto the machine you trust but the one you control (that's why). -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: S/MIME patch for Mutt-1.3.26
[18.01.02 14:34 -0500] Mike Schiraldi -- : Attached is a version of the S/MIME patch that will work with mutt-1.3.26. (Or at least it appears to work -- let me know if you have any problems) Yes, I have dam.. fu... problems with it !!! Did you ever hear that you do not post thousands of lines for patches ??? What the hell do you think URLs are for ??? And do you really expect me to apply a patch from someone who is already violating the simplest rules - god knows what is coming up with the patch then ... - except the extra costs for my bill (no, not everyone has a backbone downstairs). Sorry all, but after those 2 digests I am really more than angry about people who do not care about anything than themselves and think polluting the net is normal behaviour. ;)) -- for all of you others. Erika
Re: Bold text
[08.01.02 13:11 +0100] Nick Wilson -- : * Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020108 13:09]: is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is is for _underline_ ? vote here: [x] yes [ ] no I think David mentioned USENET conventions earlier in this post. He was not sure about that, so I thought maybe someone could quickly verify. But I will just treat it as true now. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Bold text
[07.01.02 12:35 -0600] David Champion -- : You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt --- [snipped fine examples ] --- Hey great, thanks for the examples and especially the RFC number (I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know there is a list, but that one is really long :( ). Good to know, although for shortness of messages I will stick to simple methods. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Bold text
[07.01.02 10:21 -0500] David T-G -- : ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % I'll stick with using *bold* like this. It works for me :) I certainly agree :-) I like to add a related question about conventions: is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is is for _underline_ ? vote here: [ ] yes [ ] no -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: more of the same problem
[05.01.02 13:44 -0600] rhad -- : running fetchmail ... This in turn gave me lovely error output: rhad-linux:/home/rhad # fetchmail -v --keep -a /var/log/fetchmail fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed SMTP is a sendmail/alternate matter. I am using postfix for this purpose, so I can't help with sendmail. ... after that I also tried to send some email (local and global) only to get SMTP errors. ARGH! Seems your problem is sendmail here. If you absolutely can't get it working, you might try postfix instead (compiles like charm here, documentation is understandable and needs only 3-4 variables changed to get it going for the first run). Then make sure the daemon is in the background waiting for work. (multiple pop servers for email, one outgoing mail server at the ISP, a DSL connection, and linux (2.4 based)) ... similar, but not equal: linux-2.4.x, modem, multiple pop, one ISP relay, postfix/fetchmail/mutt. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?
[04.01.02 21:36 +0100] Roman Neuhauser -- : I think I forgot to attach :) to that sentence. That said, I _do_ think that fetchmail has gone the Windows I can do it all for ya, pal way, which is not what I like. Let me put it this way: how would you label fetchmail? what is its job? is it to talk SSL, talk SMTP (great if you need to get rid of some messages in endless loops and similar stuff), filter spam, or is it to talk POP, and write the messages to /dev/null, disk or another program's stdin? Just my unimportant little view Fetchmail does exactly what it is named: it fetches my mail at my ISPs and this means it has to some protocols to do its task properly. And drops the mail in front of my door. That's all. I would not have three butlers for bringing away the recycling rubbish, just because one must know that white bottles go into the container with round hole but marked white and the other one has to know that colored bottles go into the one with the round hole but marked colored and the third must know that paper goes into the container with the rectangular container. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?
[03.01.02 11:30 +0800] Charles Jie -- : What I want to get is the RECIPIENT's answering (eg. thru a dialog box), not of the system. The value of this mechanism is that the recipient is automatically prompted for a receipt, and I can get noticed as soon as possible when he/she is back or available - avoiding many calls in vain. How do you want to prompt at the recipients side? You might get from my headers my MUA (if I do not forbid to send it) but besides this maybe-information you don't know anything, not the system I am running nore the layout. Or do you expect every MUA to include a mechanism to interupt with prompting? And what, just in case M$ has already thought of this, I click it away? Do you expect to stop the whole system until the recipient has sent out the receipt? If it is that important mail might not be the right choice at all. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Charset problem
[21.12.01 09:19 +0100] Mikael Berthe -- : * Josh Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001/12/21 01:19]: In other words, all you have to do is set LANG :) You don't need to set each variable, unless you need the values different. Well... LANG is the default locale. It can be overriden with LC_COLLATE, LC_CTYPE, etc. Then, LC_ALL overrides LC_* (and thus LANG). So if he has defined LC_something somewhere, setting LANG can be useless. However, if one sets LC_ALL there's no need to set the others LC_* variables... LANG and LANGUAGE are references whether you want translations - means instead of english you want german/french/... messages they are for gencat (older) and gettext (newer) message translations translations are kept as /usr/share/locale/locale/package.mo if you want translations LANG must be set - LANG definition has the form of =de_DE - it uses 4-letter notation and can hold only one value if you want alternate translations LANGUAGE must be set if not, it might be set; in case of missing LANG is examined - LANGUAGE has the longest form of =de,no,fr,more - so it might use 2-letter listing notation - this will look for german first, then norsk, then french self-speaking that translations are only presented correctly if you have a charset defined which has that languages special charaters LC_ variables are references what format to use for certain things - means instead of english print the german/french time/date formats are kept as /usr/lib/locale/locale/LC_variable if you want a different format for something 1. the definition file must be present in /usr/lib/locale/locale/ to get missing locale files you use the localedef command 2. you must set the LC_variable to the corresponding locale value doing this you refer to the lib/locale/locale/LC_variable 3. LC_ALL means (all) LC_* plus LANG and is for quick unsetting or do you see any LC_ALL locale file which you refer to when setting? 4. only set those LC_ variables which you really need those would mostly be _CTYPE, _MESSAGES and _TIME 5. for LC_CTYPE the most correct value is for example de_DE.ISO-8859-1 - stating the lang_territory.charset-used HTH -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: help
[16.11.01 14:33 -0500] Bela Bartok -- : Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla mail but that can be execute without X-windows. imap and pop3 are just protocols and have nothing to do with any action of sending or receiving. And the task of an email client is to show the emails, (call a writing program for) writing answers and handle the answer over to a program which sends the mail out. I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, use one of the alternates, nullmailer, postfix, qmail, exim ... i have an offline machine, i just want to connect to internet, on console, pppd for modem execute a program, your /bin and /usr/bin directories have a lot to play with ;) fetch email, fetchmail for console read and mutt and send mail some alternates already mentioned above using ONLY pop3 or imap, pop3 supported everywhere, not sure whether simple smtp's all have it is that posible on a modem unix like os such as freebsd ? one of the easiest tasks on all *ix systems is posible to set up mutt in order to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? see the mutt docs how to set it up this is the realation i want: console X-windows nestcapelynx wordperfectvi/ee/pico netscape-mail what goes here?HELP! seems to me you mixed these up please, I want a person that solve my mail problems, If you need someone to do the whole stuff for you hire someone, otherwise you will have to read a lot of documentation, try it and come back with detailed error messages in case you are stuck. We all learned it this way. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name headerhunters: no time yet investigating the lastest version ;)
Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?
[22.09.01 07:37 +0200] Byrial Jensen -- : Right, I already posted the recognized syntyx: From [return-path] wday month day time [zone] year The timezone in the example is badly placed after the year. It is recognized by Mutt anyway as Mutt currently does not test for garbage after the year, but I would not count on that bug not being fixed. Does doing that work? (Instead of re-arranging every single From_ line, you can prolly just copy an existing one, BTW. I've done this once or twice while recovering Pine mailboxes without any apparent ill effects.) The time stamp in From_ line is used as the receive time. It can be displayed in the index and used for sorting and searching etc. If you make all receice times the same, these thing will not be useful. Hey thanks all, I finally got it working. I --- was just tooo stupid blind to see all --- that was messed. Now I ran the whole stuff through sed and it works perfect. Thanks again for all your patience. Seems, that sometimes it is not enough to push my nose directly to the right line but add some light hits to the back of the head to activate the brain (as we say). -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?
Thanks for all your suggestions, here the results: running file on it returns: ASCII English text (file ~/Mail/archive/postponed returns the same) (file ~/Mail/archive/mutt returns ASCII mail text) but both are recognized as mail files by vim and mutt cat -vET only shows the $ after every last word in a line (the postponed archive too) These are the headers in real, anonymized of course: snip --- this is the very first line --- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:46:52 -0500 From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Newbie] RE: Subject line here message here. Name of Sender From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:16:46 -0400 From: First Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Newbie]Next subject line message here. - snap --- and so on --- The only differences between my normal mutt headers are: 1. the From: email adress is in if a name is preceeding 2. a time indicator like GMT missing but this is not necessary 3. the From line has a , after the day and mine is without 4. there are no Length: and Lines: in it I took the first two message (shorter than the whole file) and I tried to insert those, but still no success. I tried to add some other headers you would normally see, negative. I tried to insert Lines: number counted, no success. I copied my postponed file in front of it, no success. Any other ideas what could be the reason? (I know Lenght: is not yet tried, but how would I get that for one message in an mbox?) In that case I guess it would be easier to make myself a little sed wrapper for searching the file instead of thinking a mailing list archive has anything to do with a mail client ;)) -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: what makes mutt recognize mbox files?
[20.09.01 22:18 +0200] Piet Delport -- : On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 at 10:03:53 -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on 09/20/2001: mbox files are separated by \nFrom (basically). The headers contain these lines From xxx Date: bbb From: xx Subject: aaa Those lines that begin with From should be From . I think it's your local MDA that escaped the `From '. :-) They show up naked here. (I'm using Maildir here, which doesn't require `From 's in the message body to be escaped. Erika, those messages should be fine. Any chance of you posting (or mailing privately) some full examples (after stripping any private/sensitive information, of course)? The problem might be subtler that the given example conveys. The From was not there when I wrote that, but occasionally a line has the sign in front were it does not belong. (fetchmail, postfix combi but might as well be gmx). And yes, I did post some examples, but till now they did not yet show up in the list. Shall I resent them? -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
what makes mutt recognize mbox files?
Using 1.2.5i on linux. I downlaoded some mail archives, normally this works fine, just put them into my archive folder, fire mutt on it and voila. Now however this does not work, mutts index keeps black (no it is not black text on black bg ;) ) although the status lines already indicates the correct size, but no messages counted. The headers contain these lines From xxx Date: bbb From: xx Subject: aaa I thought, this should be enough but apparently it is not. And also vim does not recognize this file as a mail file. I tried already to add some other headers to see whether I can get this working somehow before running it through any processing but no chance. So I would appreciate if someone has an idea what to keep my eyes on. Thanks. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Indent_string..
[23.08.01 18:45 +0100] Ailbhe Leamy -- : On (18/08/01 18:57), David Röhr wrote: When I answer a mail mutt always put as quote on the last mail according to the indent_string in my .muttrc. I want only when no other has replyed, but if there already is a then i want it to become just How do I fix this? I don't know, but if you find out, tell me. It hasn't been a problem for me since I started using par, but it's a reason I started using par. Did not want/need to do that myself, so just an idea how it might be done. Set in mutt indent string to and then change the vim call to change all lines beginning with a character with a next character being a letter to convert the first character to . So mutt would automatically do quoted3 quoted2 quoted1 And vim would change that to quoted3 quoted2 quoted1 As I said, I do not want/need that, so I am not going to think about how the vim call should be changed. -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Stripping out signatures, etc.
[31.08.01 08:02 +0700] Efata -- :
I have try this script but I always get error in end file line 45:syntax
error : unexpected end of file.
In these cases generally look for
- missing closing signs of all kinds (like echo this)
- missing space signs (like func() {action})
- spaces after the last word at the end of line (like [... end ])
HTH
--
Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutters: insert vowels of last name
MTA trying to deliver to all options
I did not change my mutt(.5i) version and compiled it like I did before. Suddenly I am having problems with mutts passing the deliver command to my MTA. I have this problem with masqmail and with postfix Both say the same thing, the MTA is trying to deliver mail to all options passed by mutt when sending a local mail from/to testusers erika@localhost/albert@localhost: maqmail daemon-notify: Delivery to the following recipients failed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] postfix-log lines: qmgr[]: 9236422F44: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=455, nrcpt=11 (queue active) qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (invalid recipient syntax: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], accordingly qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], accordingly qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], accordingly qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], accordingly qmgr[]: 9236422F44: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], accordingly What am I missing in my muttrc to make that work correctly? Thanks Erika
mutt-masqmail users needed
Collegues, would anyone of you using mutt together with masqmail please help me to get those two running together? Situation: send/masqmail running (-bd -q30m) mutt (1.2.5i) up, mail to local user composed first attempt to send locally: child exited 127 - but send/masq/mail was running changed mutts set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi second attempt to send locally: unrecognized option '-N' I really don't know where this -N is comming from. I never set anything like this anywhere. So if one of you got those running I would really appreciate help. Thanks Erika
Re: character set??
( Mai-07-2001 ) Johannes Zellner --: I've LC_CTYPE=de_DE The only problem is that german Umlauts are rendered incorrectly in the /index/ even if the corresponding message has Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 and I get something like this in the index: 14 r + Mar 30 =?iso-8859-1?Q? ( 20) 1000 Re: hi It would be great, if anyone could help me with this. LC_TYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 that did the trick for me important was the very correct way of writing -- Erika
printf format
When examing first all those config possibilities I fell over some format which I could not understand. It is not important for survival but I just like to understand everything, so if someone could light my brain it would be great. For example: the index format uses %-15.15L And I found out that these 15.15 is working like the C printf. So I tried to find some info which explains what C printf is. The only thing I found was some complicated mathematics about this being a format of telling how a printer is going to bring that to paper when digging somewhere in the groff pages. But this may not be related. I am using a standard 25x80 console screen and tried some other values just to check whether I see something to make a rule of, but nothing. So, how does value1.value2 affect the format? And what does the - sign do? -- Erika
Re: temporarily reply with all headers
( Apr-19-2001 ) Brian Foley --: * Igor Pruchanskiy [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on [19-04-01] wrote: You can hit 'h' within pager window to see the full message header. I do not think that is what is needed in this case. correct, I need the loading part into my vim editor 1. ":unset weed" 2. forward/reply to message 3. ":set weed" tried with no perfect result all combination of ":set edit_headers=yes" ":unignore *" ":unset weed" Solution: I got a private mail suggesting this send-hook "~A" "set header=no; set weed=yes" send-hook "~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]" "set header=yes; set weed=no" I used the command line form 'set header=yes; sed weed=no' + 'r' or in my case 'L' and I can easily reset them for the next mail. Thank you all, I am happy again. -- Erika -- Erika
temporarily reply with all headers
I need an advice how I would best do this: 0. default is: take all headers out 1. for a mailinglist reply to mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] -. put all headers in the beginning -. then reply blahblah I need this only in some very special cases to track some bouncing which should not occur. So I would like not to do any big changes in my rc files. Any suggestions how to accomplish that best? Thanks. -- Erika
syntax for AND / OR with ~char
Would someone please give me the correct syntax if I want to combine AND and OR with ~characters, my common sense lines are not recognized the way I intended. Example: if expression is found in to,cc OR from ...whatever working: .. "~C expr | ~f expr" ... but not: .. "(~C | ~f) expr" ... but not: .. "~C | ~f expr"... How would I best use the shortest syntax for these my_writings, as the expression is in all cases identical there should be a way of only using it once, right? "~c1 OR ~c2 OR ~c3 expr for 3 chars" = expression found in either c1 or c2 or c3 "~c1 AND ~c2 AND ~c3 expr for 3 chars" = expression found in c1 and additional c2 and additional c3 "!(~c1 OR ~c2) ~c3 expr for 3 chars" = expression not found in c1 or in c2 but found in c3 and how do I include "standalones" without expression like tagged into this sheme? Thank you. -- Erika
2 mailing list addresses are same list
Example lists: subscribe links-list@ | links@ pager: 1 Apr-10 links-list Re: subject1 line pager: 2 Apr-10 links Re: subject2 line This would seem to be from 2 different mailing lists whereas it is indead only one (just that people do not use the latest official). Is there a way to "subscribe address1 OR address2" to define that both addresses are an identical list? (To use the domain part is unacceptable as this is appwatch.com with hundreds of mailing lists). Or can I express address just in form of a regex? Thought I would ask before starting another set of tries and always see syntax error in line xx. :0 -- Erika
Re: Colors aren't quite working
( Apr-09-2001 ) Conor Daly --: This should work. color index red default "~l" color index brightred default "~N~l" color index brightyellow default "~N!~l" Try naming the color instead of default It *should* work but alas it doesn't. I'm using Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) System: Linux 2.2.16-22 [using slang 10401] Compile options: snipped them I am using the same mutt version, compile options identical BUT: linked against ncuses-5.2 the same .muttrc worked beautifully on an RH 6.2 box. Any thoughts? Just an idea what you might check, RH 6.2 slang or ncurses? Don't know about slang but I read somewhere that some variables have to be set (.profile or so) - as said, all just ideas. -- Erika
Re: saving hooks for archives
save-hook "~C mutt-users" +archive/mutt.users save-hook . +archive/other.all Thank you all, I knew it was that easy. ( Apr-05-2001 ) Michael Tatge --: man procmail :) No procmail, no man procmail. I do intentionally not use procmail, all mail goes to spoolfile and - discipline myself - this one has to be empty before fetching new mail (dialup connection), so go through spoolfile, delete, archive or if no time/no decision yet save in read. I know by experience if I use procmail to split it is sooo much easier to just postpone reading to later and soon I can't catch up ... -- Erika
saving hooks for archives
I know it is possible and the solution is easy, but I just can't get that to work (shame on me). Whatever I try, I get either too few arguments or just a message, error in line xx. I read the docs and the archives and Sure I will bang my head against the wall afterwards, but until then I appreciate your help. Situation: Incomming mail is /var/mail/me, I use mbox format. Mutts list is subscribed, with the pattern mutt-users. Mail archives are for example kept in - ~/Mail/archive/mutt.users - ~/Mail/archive/other.all I read my mail, tag some for deletion and some for saving. When saving I have to override the proposal (the from address) with my archive file. Question: How do I have to define the save-hooks so that - mutt mails go automatically to mutts archive file - other mails go automatically to others archive file Thank you. -- Erika
Re: syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas
( Apr-04-2001 ) Thomas Duterme --: This was just my gut feeling for how to speed through mail in the pager. Anyone have any other clever ways? I'd love to hear how others browse through high quantities of mail. I use colors to support me in quick-reading like this: 1. grouping mail I splitted my mails into several groups of same level and/or importance first, example: all mailinglists from the same address except the security list which is an extra group with all other security lists. 2. Pager header lines Then I decided which header lines I wanted to see, in my case I have only To and Subject because my status line contains From And I defined the order of those to be To and then Subject (The date is better seen in the index.) 3. Color choice Now I made myself a couple of eye-friendly color combinations to be used for all those groups. 4. in my muttrc it finally looks like this: set pager format="%Z:%C/%m %a"# status line of pager hdr_order To: Subject:# header order in pager # To: patterns that influence the color of the first line color header black green "mutt-users" # black on green this list color header white black "pacholleck" # white on black personal color header white red "security" # white on red security lists You could do the same with Subject: lines, or use the from as a third line if your attention needs to catch certain people. I only use the pager to browse through my mail starting with the first one and only look onto the first two lines, decide by color first, then fly over the subject line - this is done within just a few seconds. Whenever there is for instance a personal mail color changes automatically to white on black which will get my attention cause it is the only black one. Just a suggestion. -- Erika
Re: Configure ViM in Mutt
( Mr-27-2001 ) Horace G. Friend III --: I like to work in a white on black console which is how I've set my console. But when I enter Vi when composing mail, I can hardly see the colored letters of Vi so I need a white bg during email composition. Copy the systemwide mail.vim somewhere appropriate to you home directory, then change the "hi whatever_keyword" to your disired color, then source your own mail.vim. This way you can stick to your disired white on black. That's a quick fix. For the whole story read your documentation in /usr/share/doc/vim or wherever this is kept. You are searching for a directory called /doc/ containing the file syntax.txt which will be your homework for today ;-) -- Erika
pager display and locale
How does the pager resolve the locale settings? The funny problem looks like this (I use the german): The date is randomly displayed wrong when it come to a diaresis. Mr-24 M.r-24 Mr-24 M.r-24 M.r-24 If I know how the components work into it, I might find a solution. I know, the month is soon over ;) Thanks. -- Erika
Re: Colors when editing message
( Mon, 05 Mär 2001 ) Andreas Grytz -- : I am sorry for being so unprecise. I don't have a problem with the color of the background. I wanted the font of the qutoed text to be more bright. The second level quoted text is cyan, which is fine. Now I wanted the first level quoted text to be brightblue instead of blue. Depends on how all you files look like, for example do you use all defaults, do you have your own defined syntax file, what is your ~/.vimrc already doing or do you use the systemwide rc file ?? Ok, I just assume you have a ~/.vimrc and all it does is something like syntax on or similar to get you some colors. For an already loaded file try this command in execution mode :so $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/mail.vim (Doppelpunkt so ...) If the result is different from your actual, put in your ~/.vimrc: source $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/mail.vim Restart vim and check whether you get the same as seen before. If not, you might change the line where you put it. The default definitions for colours are in those 2 files /usr/share/vim or similar, subdir /syntax/ and then 1. synload.vim 2. mail.vim As far as I can see from my mail.vim all quoting levels are colored as Comment and as Identifier which is in synload.vim defined cyan with additions which my console interpretes equally as BrightCyan. So then all your quote levels should ideally be brightcyan then. 3. hint: for colors there is also a colortest.vim If that worked copy that $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/mail.vim somewhere to your home and adjust the mailQuotedx lines according to the color each quote level should have. In case you have defined other colors somewhere, you should know which file to take for reference. Load your mail again, this time do a ":so /path/to/mymail.vim" and check whether it works (should be fine now) and then replace the sourcing path in your .vimrc by this one. For detailed information see a subdir called doc/ for a file called syntax.txt. ;-) Erika
Re: sending postponed messages
( Die, 20 Feb 2001 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- : If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them), sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q" should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue. ( Mit, 21 Feb 2001 ) BWise -- : Erika, don't throw Mutt out! I'm on a dial-up connection (as you are) and have a script run by a cron-daemon which connects me to my isp, checks my various mail accounts, and sends queued mail (using "sudo qsend" so that I do not have to be logged in as root) at regular intervals. And at this moment I have in the neighborhood of a half-dozen postponed messages in Mutt. Ok, in kmail I made myself a folder out.wait for drafts besides out. But you are right sendmail -q does the trick - for god sake this is not one of those postfix's sendmail commands whith (ignored:), so I only have to discipline myself that sent is nearly out and not longer a draft ... But better than this mousing around - and no I do not intend to throw Mutt out but kmail as soon as I got my headers correct. And of course I will end up with scripting the whole thing, that's at least what I exactely know how to do it ;) Thanks to all for that hint. Erika
