Re: Caching body of IMAP messages

2012-06-13 Thread John J. Foster
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:04:46PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 On Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:47PM, Morris, Patrick wrote:
   I have entries in my .muttrc for caching both headers and message
   bodies.
   
   set header_cache=~/.mutt/headers
   set message_cachedir =~/.mutt/bodies
   
   Both directories are populated.  The header caching appears to work
   well
   when doing searches for 'Subject' or 'From' but searching for text
   within message bodies (using ~b) causes messages to be downloaded.
   
   Is this normal behavior?  I will say that the directories within
   ~/.mutt/bodies for each of my mail directories do not appear to have
   all the message id's for messages on the server.
  
  
  Sounds pretty normal to me. There's no way to search IMAP messages locally
  if you haven't downloaded them yet.  Headers will be downloaded
  automatically, but unlike with POP, the rest of the message will stay on the
  server undownloaded until you need to retrieve a copy, and you'd need to do
  that to search them.
 
 OK.  Thanks for the clarification.
 
I usually use limit and then =b to perform the search on the server
side. Much quicker if you don't have message bodies all downloaded.


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Re: offlineimap much slower than gmail-imap

2011-05-05 Thread John J. Foster
My header cache (tokyo cabinet) seems to get slow on certain mailboxes
every few weeks. I just blow away that mailboxes cache and let it
rebuild and all is well again. I ALWAYS blow away the entire cache
whenever I pull a new version of mutt from mercurial and whenever tokyo
cabinet gets updated (Mac OSX).

I don't know if this will help for offlineimap, or not.

festus

On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:35 -0400, Tim Gray lists+m...@protozoic.com
wrote:
 On May 05, 2011 at 01:43 PM +0100, Nick Jones wrote:
 For reference, mutt (1.5.20) on my machine currently takes 11 seconds to
 open my offlineimap'd Gmail 'All Mail' folder which contains 17,418
 messages.  It then takes a further 6 seconds to close the mailbox, write
 any changes, and then switch back to my Inbox (for example).
 
 I've had different experiences with different folders on my Macbook (no 
 SSD).  Some large folders with 10-20k messages open up in seconds.  
 Others can take a long time.  I'm not sure what the issue is.  I sent a 
 message to the list about it a couple months ago but no one had any 
 ideas.  I don't know if the header/body caches are cleaned out properly 
 or what, but the one time I nuked my cache, things really sped up for a 
 couple weeks.
 
 This is all on local maildirs.
 


Re: offlineimap much slower than gmail-imap

2011-05-05 Thread John J. Foster
Forgot to mention - this is strictly an IMAP connection - no local
mailboxes

On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:12 -0400, Tim Gray lists+m...@protozoic.com
wrote:
 On May 05, 2011 at 08:52 AM -0600, John J. Foster wrote:
 My header cache (tokyo cabinet) seems to get slow on certain mailboxes
 every few weeks. I just blow away that mailboxes cache and let it
 rebuild and all is well again. I ALWAYS blow away the entire cache
 whenever I pull a new version of mutt from mercurial and whenever tokyo
 cabinet gets updated (Mac OSX).
 
 Maybe I'll try doing that more often.  I'm using tokyo cabinet as well.  
 It's strange - my inbox which usually only has ~200 messages in it opens 
 slower than some mailing list boxes with 1000's of messages.  However, 
 there's a lot more turnover in my inbox; it's rarely the same 200 
 messages.
 


Re: Authenticated Exchange SMTP server problem

2010-09-18 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:26:56PM +0200, Michael Williams wrote:
 
 On 18 Sep 2010, at 22:16, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
  Does your /var/log/mail gives any more clues?
 
 On the client machine? Apparently I don't have one (this is a vanilla mutt 
 build +tokyocabinet running on OS X.

it's /private/var/log/mail.log on a MAC

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Re: return reciepts

2010-07-01 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 06:08:43PM +0200, lee wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21:31PM +0200, lee wrote:
  Hi,
  
  how do you handle return reciepts with mutt? I know I can add header
  lines to request a reciept (with my_hdr), but how do I make it so that
  reciepts are requested based on, for example, recipients?
  
  The idea is something like mutt asking me if I want to request a
  reciept when sending a message to a combination of recipients not yet
  recognized by mutt. It then would remember my decision and add that
  particular combination of recipients to some list for later reference
  as to what decision I have made. Next time when sending messages to
  that same combination of recipients, mutt would automatically either
  request a reciept or not, depending on my decision once made ---
  unless I explicitly instruct mutt otherwise when sending a message.
  
  Handling the sending of return reciepts when requested by incoming
  messages could work very much the same.
  
  How do I configure mutt to do that? Or is there already support for
  return reciepts?
 
 Noone using return reciepts?

Not a chance - never

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Re: Purge single deleted email

2009-11-17 Thread John J. Foster


On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:46 -0800, Brendan Cully bren...@kublai.com
wrote:
 On Tuesday, 17 November 2009 at 11:31, Kevin Kobb wrote:
  Dan Ritter wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:17:36AM -0500, Kevin Kobb wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I am using mutt to connect to a Cyrus IMAP server. It is working
  fine, but I have one question. Sometimes I have a number of
  deleted messages in a folder, but I only want to purge one
  message. I know how to purge them all, but I haven't been able
  find a way to purge just one, and leave the rest. Is this
  possible? If so, I would be very grateful if somebody could tell
  me how.
  
  No, but if you insist, there is a workaround.
  
  Save the message to be deleted to a temporary folder (create one
  if necessary). Open the temporary folder in another instance of
  mutt. Delete your message, purge, and exit.
  
  I have to wonder why you are deleting messages that you don't
  really want to delete. Perhaps you should be moving them to
  another folder instead?
  
  -dsr-
  
  Typically, I am doing this for a user. They call and complain because
  the got an offensive email of some type. If I save the message to
  another folder (which I do) it still leaves a copy in the Inbox
  folder with the deleted flag set.
  
  If I do an expunge to get rid of the offensive message, it will also
  expunge all the users messages with the deleted flag set. Now,
  granted if they have the deleted flag set you would think they would
  be ready to have them expunged, but that is not always the case, and
  trying to convince an end user of that is is a good way to get a
  headache ;)
 
 You could also copy all the messages _but_ the target to a temp
 folder, then purge, then copy them back. Or tag all deleted messages,
 clear the deleted flag, set some other flag (like 'flagged'), delete
 the single message, tag the flagged messages, and set them to deleted
 but not flagged. The second method might be a bit quicker, but depends
 on there not already being flagged messages in the mailbox. I'd go
 with the first.

Or, you could utilize a poor man's trash-folder like from:

http://wiki.mutt.org/?MacroSamples

and then just delete stuff from there. I've been using this method for
years quite successfully.

festus


Re: Anyone else having trouble with function keys and the latest tip

2009-07-08 Thread John J. Foster


On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:14 -0500, Kyle Wheeler
kyle-m...@memoryhole.net wrote:
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 On Tuesday, July  7 at 07:03 PM, quoth John J. Foster:
  This was pretty much self-inflicted. I've been having command line 
  display problems (while doing reverse-search in history) using 
  xterm-color in Terminal.app, so I added
 
  export TERM=Apple_Terminal
 
  to my .profile per a suggestion on an Apple - Unix discussion list. This 
  solved my display problem, but I obviously didn't fully check out all of 
  the other ramifications. So, back to xterm-color for the time being.
 
 I use Apple's Terminal.app all the time, and I prefer 
 TERM=nsterm-16color. I've had to modify it slightly to enable multiple 
 pages (that's a technical way of saying I fixed a minor redraw issue), 
 but then I just install it locally.

Thanks Kyle, I'll keep this in mind. Right now I'm trying out
Terminal.app's 
built-in dtterm.

festus
 
 See these two posts: 
 http://marc.info/?l=mutt-usersm=121918563026190w=2
 http://marc.info/?l=mutt-usersm=118897291908291w=2



Re: Anyone else having trouble with function keys and the latest tip

2009-07-07 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 02:00:25PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * John J. Foster wrote:
 
  All of my function keys stopped working with the latest tip.
 
 Not here. Any bindings, any example? With command+F1 I get the manual as
 expected.
 
This was pretty much self-inflicted. I've been having command line
display problems (while doing reverse-search in history) 
using xterm-color in Terminal.app, so I added

export TERM=Apple_Terminal

to my .profile per a suggestion on an Apple - Unix discussion list. This
solved my display problem, but I obviously didn't fully check out all of
the other ramifications. So, back to xterm-color for the time being.

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Anyone else having trouble with function keys and the latest tip

2009-07-06 Thread John J. Foster

fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg tip
changeset:   5974:ccab6c56b557
branch:  HEAD
tag: tip
user:Rocco Rutte pd...@gmx.net
date:Mon Jul 06 15:28:04 2009 +0200
summary: Manual: Add a note about when/why to use utf-8 


All of my function keys stopped working with the latest tip. 

Terminal.app
OSX 10.5.7 - hasn't been updated for over a week.


Just me?

Thanks,
festus

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Re: How to let mutt always mark mbox as new if it contains new

2009-05-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:17:37PM +0800, Wu, Yue wrote:
 No, just new emails remain the new mark, but the mbox that contains them not.
 On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 10:24:30AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

I could be totally off the mark here, but I believe the problem is
mutt's interpretation of new mail vs. your (and my) interpretation of
new mail (unread mail). I have always believed, and still do, that
unread mail is the same as new mail. Although I understand mutt's
logic, I think it is wrong. Afterall, they still show it with an N
flag! But over 5 years I have learned to live with it.

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Re: what is the benefit of imap?

2009-03-18 Thread John J. Foster
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 04:13:19PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 and IMAP makes it possible for me to sue my own client when I can.

I'm so glad you're not my lawyer.

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Re: Mutt crashing on exit or replying (sometimes)

2009-03-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:44:45PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:

 (e.g. I don't believe gnome-terminal does, and I *know* Apple Terminal 
 doesn't either). Chances are you want to add some logic to your 
 ~/.bashrc (or equivalent for your shell) to set the LANG environment 
 variable correctly for your machine.

Hey Kyle - I've only been running on a Mac since January (former
Gentoo user). But I've not changed my environment, knowingly, to effect
this and my locale shows:

fes...@magpie ~ $ echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8
fes...@magpie ~ $ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
fes...@magpie ~ $ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash

I don't have a .bashrc and my .profile doesn't set this. This is running
10.5.6 and Terminal.app. What are you running, or, as usual, am I missing
the misunderstanding something?

Later,
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Re: Clarification on tag-prefix-cond vs. tag-prefix

2009-02-13 Thread John J. Foster


On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:20 +0100, Jan-Herbert Damm jan-h-d...@web.de
wrote:
 Kyle Wheeler:
 ... However, because I use 
  tag-prefix-cond, when there aren't any tagged messages (i.e. the 
  pattern ~r 3m didn't match anything), mutt will stop processing 
  that hook and none of the rest of it will happen.
  
  Does that make sense?
 yes it does! thank you so much for posting this help on archiving. i
 learned
 a lot from reviewing it very slowly. 
 
 if you don't mind, can you explain the pattern ~r 3m equally well? i
 know i
 could figure it out by RTFM but it would take forever. 
 

in less than 1 minute - from TFM:
~r MIN-MAX   messages with date-received in a Date range
3m  greater than 3 months.


Re: Clarification on tag-prefix-cond vs. tag-prefix

2009-02-12 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:29:01PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 On Thursday, February 12 at 08:15 PM, quoth John J. Foster:
 Am I nuts, or are these functionally equivalent?
 
 You're nuts. :)
 
 But they *are* very similar. Tag-prefix, of course, means that the 
 next command will apply to all of the tagged messages. But what if 
 there AREN'T any tagged messages? Well then, the next command will 
 apply to whatever message happens to be highlighted! This is usually 
 the right thing to do when working interactively with the user, but 
 when used as part of scripts, lots of times there may not be any 
 tagged messages and in that case, the subsequent action should not 
 occur. THAT is what tag-prefix-cond does: if there aren't any tagged 
 messages, the command buffer is flushed without doing anything (in 
 other words, whatever hook you're in stops dead in its tracks).
 
 Take for example the folder-hook that I posted earlier today. The idea 
 is that I want mutt to automatically move any messages that are older 
 than 3 months into the archive folder. To refresh your memory, here's 
 what it looks like:
 
  folder-hook =Sent 'push tag-pattern~r 
 3mentertag-prefix-condsave-message=Archive.Sententeruntag-pattern~Aenter'
 
 So what happens if there aren't any messages that are older than three 
 months? If I had used tag-prefix instead of tag-prefix-cond, what 
 would happen is that whatever message happened to be highlighted when 
 I entered that folder would get moved to the archive folder. In my 
 case, I have mutt highlight the first new or unread message when it 
 opens new folders, so if I used tag-prefix, that new message would 
 get moved to the archive folder. However, because I use 
 tag-prefix-cond, when there aren't any tagged messages (i.e. the 
 pattern ~r 3m didn't match anything), mutt will stop processing 
 that hook and none of the rest of it will happen.
 
 Does that make sense?

Yep - and I'm nuts regardless! Thanks for the explanation Kyle.

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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-08 Thread John J. Foster

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:57 -0800, Brendan Cully bren...@kublai.com
wrote:
 
 that's all indicative of an old version. But note that:
 
 ~/src/mutt $ mutt -v
 
 is NOT the same as
 
 ~/src/mutt $ ./mutt -v
 
 (. is not normally in your path). So if you pulled, forgot to up -C
 HEAD, and make installed you will still be seeing that version even
 after up -C HEAD, make.

Understood. Before I read this reply, I'd wiped out ~/src/mutt and
re-pulled from HEAD. Version now shows 1.5.19 as it should. I'm not
exactly sure how I hosed this, but all is now well.

Thanks Brendan,
festus
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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-08 Thread John J. Foster


On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:32 -0800, Brendan Cully bren...@kublai.com
wrote:
 On Tuesday, 06 January 2009 at 20:25, John J. Foster wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 08:18:35PM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
   $ ./prepare -prefix=/opt/local/ --with-ssl --enable-hcache --enable-imap
   --disable-fcntl --enable-flock --with-regex
   
   This bombed out with
   ...
   ...
   checking for gdbm_open... no
   checking for BerkeleyDB  4.0... no
   configure: error: You need Tokyo Cabinet, QDBM, GDBM or Berkeley DB4 for
   hcache
   
  If I configure without --enable-hcache, all works well, albeit real
  slow. But what's with this output:
  
  $ mutt -v
  Mutt 1.5.14 (2007-03-31)
 
 Looks like you need to hg up -C HEAD
 Compare `hg parents` to `hg tip`, or just `hg parents | grep tip`.
 
 As for the gdbm error, something like
 ./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/include
 ...
 might work.
 
While looking through the gdbm man page, I noticed that your suggestion
of

-L/opt/local/include
should be
-L/opt/local/lib

All is now well with the header cache!

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:47:24PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote:
 I got a MBP for Christmas (yippie) and am looking for a good howto on
 compiling Mutt on it. I have been running 1.5.18 from HEAD, and would
 like to continue. I don't want, at least initially, to install either
 MacPorts or Fink. I'm also looking for a good Mac mailing list that
 leans toward the admin side of things.

 Without MacPorts or Fink, the installation instructions are really the  
 same as for any barebone Unix system.  Enjoy.

 (In other words, you *really* want MacPorts.  Or Fink.)

OK, I installed MacPorts and then pulled in mercurial with

$ sudo port install mercurial

After that, I did the following:

$ mkdir ~/src
$ cd ~/src
$ hg clone http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt
$ cd mutt
$ hg update -C HEAD
$ ./prepare -prefix=/opt/local/ --with-ssl --enable-hcache --enable-imap
--disable-fcntl --enable-flock --with-regex

This bombed out with
...
...
checking for gdbm_open... no
checking for BerkeleyDB  4.0... no
configure: error: You need Tokyo Cabinet, QDBM, GDBM or Berkeley DB4 for
hcache

So,

$ sudo port install gdbm

Same error again.

Anyone know why this is happening?

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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 08:18:35PM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
 $ ./prepare -prefix=/opt/local/ --with-ssl --enable-hcache --enable-imap
 --disable-fcntl --enable-flock --with-regex
 
 This bombed out with
 ...
 ...
 checking for gdbm_open... no
 checking for BerkeleyDB  4.0... no
 configure: error: You need Tokyo Cabinet, QDBM, GDBM or Berkeley DB4 for
 hcache
 
If I configure without --enable-hcache, all works well, albeit real
slow. But what's with this output:

$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.5.14 (2007-03-31)

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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:32:34PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
 Looks like you need to hg up -C HEAD
I'd already done that as was listed in my previous post, but did it
again.

fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg up -C HEAD
0 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved

 Compare `hg parents` to `hg tip`, or just `hg parents | grep tip`.
 
fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg parents
changeset:   5658:4032dfd52118
branch:  HEAD
tag: tip
user:Vsevolod Volkov v...@mutt.org.ua
date:Tue Jan 06 18:34:46 2009 -0800
summary: Updated Russian translation

fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg tip
changeset:   5658:4032dfd52118
branch:  HEAD
tag: tip
user:Vsevolod Volkov v...@mutt.org.ua
date:Tue Jan 06 18:34:46 2009 -0800
summary: Updated Russian translation


 As for the gdbm error, something like
 ./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/include ...
 might work.
 
I'll work on this tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion.

 or just port install mutt (with whatever combination of flags is
 needed. I don't remember the macports syntax very well).
Nah, I've really gotten to like the new versions as they come out!

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Re: Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing

2009-01-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:59:02PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
 On Tuesday, 06 January 2009 at 20:54, John J. Foster wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:32:34PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
   Looks like you need to hg up -C HEAD
  I'd already done that as was listed in my previous post, but did it
  again.
  
  fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg up -C HEAD
  0 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved
  
   Compare `hg parents` to `hg tip`, or just `hg parents | grep tip`.
   
  fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg parents
  changeset:   5658:4032dfd52118
  branch:  HEAD
  tag: tip
  user:Vsevolod Volkov v...@mutt.org.ua
  date:Tue Jan 06 18:34:46 2009 -0800
  summary: Updated Russian translation
  
  fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ hg tip
  changeset:   5658:4032dfd52118
  branch:  HEAD
  tag: tip
  user:Vsevolod Volkov v...@mutt.org.ua
  date:Tue Jan 06 18:34:46 2009 -0800
  summary: Updated Russian translation
 
 Ok. In that case I'd compare mutt -v to ~/src/mutt/mutt -v :)
 And if they are both the old versions, make clean and make again.

Done, they're the same. Just a reminder that the only version of mutt that has
ever been installed on this machine is 1.5.19 pulled tonight from HEAD.

I haven't yet posted a complete output from mutt
-v, so hear goes:

fes...@magpie ~/src/mutt $ mutt -v
Mutt 1.5.14 (2007-03-31)
Copyright (C) 1996-2007 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Darwin 9.6.0 (i386)
ncurses: ncurses 5.5.20051010 (compiled with 5.5)
libiconv: 1.11
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
-USE_FCNTL  +USE_FLOCK   -USE_INODESORT   
-USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_SMTP  -USE_GSS  +USE_SSL_OPENSSL
-USE_SSL_GNUTLS  -USE_SASL  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME
-CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET
+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  -HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  -USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/mail
PKGDATADIR=/opt/local//share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/opt/local//etc
EXECSHELL=/bin/sh
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to mutt-...@mutt.org.
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.
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Compiling Mutt on a Macbook Pro and recommendation for mailing list

2009-01-05 Thread John J. Foster
I got a MBP for Christmas (yippie) and am looking for a good howto on
compiling Mutt on it. I have been running 1.5.18 from HEAD, and would
like to continue. I don't want, at least initially, to install either
MacPorts or Fink. I'm also looking for a good Mac mailing list that
leans toward the admin side of things.

Any and all help appreciated.

Thanks,
festus

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Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread John J. Foster
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 07:35:51AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Dave Wood d...@unrealize.co.uk [12-13-08 23:23]:
  Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
  instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?
 
 No, I'm still on 1.5.13 and KBytes are shown, but it is %c, not %s.
 %s represents the message subject in $index_format.
 

from TFM,

3.59. folder_format
Type: string
Default: %2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f
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festus
-- 
It is not unusual for those at the wrong end of the club to have a
clearer picture of reality than those who wield it.
  Noam Chomsky


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Re: 1.5.18 (from HEAD) and threading

2008-12-10 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 02:32:10PM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
 I've noticed that when running 1.5.18 (from HEAD), that when new mail
 arrives in the current mailbox, it get put at the end of the index
 instead of in the thread it belongs. When did this change take place? I
 was previously running 1.5.16.
 
Any ideas, or should I take this to mutt-dev?

Thanks,
festus
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I just want to break even.


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1.5.18 (from HEAD) and threading

2008-12-06 Thread John J. Foster
I've noticed that when running 1.5.18 (from HEAD), that when new mail
arrives in the current mailbox, it get put at the end of the index
instead of in the thread it belongs. When did this change take place? I
was previously running 1.5.16.

Thanks,
festus

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Re: 1.5.18 (from HEAD) and threading

2008-12-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 02:32:10PM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
 I've noticed that when running 1.5.18 (from HEAD), that when new mail
 arrives in the current mailbox, it get put at the end of the index
 instead of in the thread it belongs. When did this change take place? I
 was previously running 1.5.16.
 
FYI - changing sort order to anything else, then back to threads works
just fine.

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Re: [semi OT] - Setup for LDAP access to fastmail.fm

2008-12-05 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:58:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:48:20AM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
  authentication required at /home/festus/mutt-ldap.pl line 46, DATA
  line 466.
 
 Ok, what _is_ line 46? Hmm, and line 466?
 
I have no idea about that error message! It's just what came up. My
firewall had the following ldap ports blocked.

ldap389/udp
ldaps   636/udp

festus
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Re: [semi OT] - Setup for LDAP access to fastmail.fm

2008-12-05 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 07:13:43PM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:58:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:48:20AM -0700, John J. Foster wrote:
   authentication required at /home/festus/mutt-ldap.pl line 46, DATA
   line 466.
  
  Ok, what _is_ line 46? Hmm, and line 466?
  
OK - forgot to include the guilty line (46 I guess, as 466 doesn't
exist)!

$mesg-code  die $mesg-error;

Based on my knowledge of other languages, this message doesn't really
correspond to the actual line that produced problems.

The thescript is at:
http://www.bsdconsulting.no/tools/mutt-ldap.pl

festus
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Re: [semi OT] - Setup for LDAP access to fastmail.fm

2008-11-30 Thread John J. Foster
Sorry for the noise - it was a firewall issue.
festus

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query_format current entry number starts at zero with 1.5.18

2008-11-30 Thread John J. Foster
I've just recently switched to 1.5.18 (mainly because of increased
hcache performance) and have noticed that the results shown from a
query_command start at 0 as opposed to 1. This makes it impossible to
change to an entry by its number. My query command is:

set query_command=/home/festus/bin/mutt-ldap.pl '%s'

using 1.5.16:
1 Backpacking Light Mailing List   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 Name 2   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3 Name 3   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

using 1.5.18
0 Backpacking Light Mailing List   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Name 2   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 Name 3   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does anyone else see this?

Thanks,
festus
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Re: query_format current entry number starts at zero with 1.5.18

2008-11-30 Thread John J. Foster
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:45:39PM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 Hi,

 * John J. Foster wrote:
 I've just recently switched to 1.5.18 (mainly because of increased
 hcache performance) and have noticed that the results shown from a
 query_command start at 0 as opposed to 1.

 This is fixed in

  http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/rev/927a1d30a44e

 Thanks for reporting.

Thanks Rocco! You folks do most excellent work.
festus
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[semi OT] - Setup for LDAP access to fastmail.fm

2008-11-28 Thread John J. Foster
Hi all,

I'm using a script (http://www.bsdconsulting.no/tools/mutt-ldap.pl) to
try to access my address book on fastmail.fm. I've changed the
following:

# --- configuration ---
$ldapserver = ldap.messagingengine.com;
$domain = fastmail.fm;
$username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED],ou=Users';
$password = my_password;
$basedn = dc=AddressBook;
# --- end configuration ---

and...

$ldap-bind($username, password=$password);

per instructions at http://wiki.fastmail.fm/index.php?title=LDAP#Mutt

Also in muttrc set query_command = /home/user/bin/mutt-ldap.pl '%s'

but consistently get the following error:

authentication required at /home/festus/mutt-ldap.pl line 46, DATA
line 466.

I have also tried mail.messagingengine.com and also tried AddressBooks,
both of which were mentioned in a long thread on fastmails discussion
groups (http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=52707). This is
all running on a Gentoo VM using mutt 1.5.18 from tip.
Any and all help appreciated,
festus
P.S. I know close to zero about perl.


Re: On RTFM

2008-09-23 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:43:25AM -0500, David Champion wrote:
 
 What's the trouble?  Let people ask questions honestly and politely,
 but if all you have to give is rtfm, with no reference or citation or
 vague hint at a substantive answer, then don't bother replying -- or at
 least keep it out of the mailing list archive and my mailbox, please.
 
touch??
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Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-18 Thread John J. Foster
Come on folks. It's a public mailing list we're talking about here. You
ask a question in public. You get an answer in public. I've seen Derek's
sig line here for years, but be insulted by it??? You got to be kidding.
It's an effing .signature!

festus

-- 
It is not unusual for those at the wrong end of the club to have a
clearer picture of reality than those who wield it.
  Noam Chomsky


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