problem with folder hooks

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone, 
I'm having a little trouble with setting a reply-to on a specific
folder. I've commented the code below so I'm sure you can see what I'm
attempting to do:

#this is my main account
send-hook '.' my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# these three appear to work but sometimes when I switch back to
# explodingnet after sending a mail from tioka I get the tioka
# signiture?
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set trash=~/Mail/Trash/tioka
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set signature=/home/nick/.tioka_signature

# but this little bugger's having none of it
folder-hook =Tioka/nick my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


a little help would be much appreciated, cheers..

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Nick Wilson // www.tioka.com



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help with folder hook?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone...
Could someone help me sort this folder-hook out please?

folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That doesn't work and it will not work without the 'set' either so I'm a
little stumped :-)

Many thanks...

- -- 
- ---
 www.explodingnet.com   |Projects, Forums and
+Articles for website owners 
- -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers.

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'clicking links'

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all, 
I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because
I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in
the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph!

I use NS6 for my crimes if that is of any use.

Many thanks for your suggestions.
- -- 
- ---
 www.explodingnet.com   |Projects, Forums and
+Articles for website owners 
- -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers.

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Re: 'clicking links'

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Radek Spacil declared
  I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because
  I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in
  the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph!
 
 If I understand it correctly, you still want to use in most cases lynx
 or urlview, but sometimes (when clicked) use graphical browser.

Precisely. A lot of the time I'm not in X at all but then some of these
links, like from my CSS list are just pointless in Lynx.

 I'm using lynx for text viewing. For launching graphical browser I use
 gnome-terminal feature (I'm running mutt in gnome-terminal) which will
 launch predefined browser (defined in gnomecc) after right-clicking
 and choosing 'show in browser' - in my case mozilla. Note I'm not
 using gnome, just the terminal :-)

Ahh,, running kde :-)
- -- 
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 www.explodingnet.com   |Projects, Forums and
+Articles for website owners 
- -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers.

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Re: 'clicking links'

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Justin R. Miller declared
 Said Nick Wilson on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:14:14PM +0100:
 
  I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because
  I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in
  the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph!
 
 Attached are my ~/.urlview and ~/bin/url_handler.sh files.  I think I

Hmmm looks trickey, and I *must* go to bed! I'll get on it in the am
and reply again should/when I hit trouble :-)

Thanks everyone.
- -- 
- ---
 www.explodingnet.com   |Projects, Forums and
+Articles for website owners 
- -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers.

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arrggh, print hell [little OT]

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone, 
long time no speak :-)

I've just had to print an entire mbox file, it wasn't that many messages
but it was a painful process as I didn't think of a way to only print
the /actuall/ message bodies (and perhaps TO, From)

I just did: $ lpr mymboxfile

What might I have done?

Many thanks...
- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: People who don't wrap their lines

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Christopher S. Swingley declared
 show up with a + at the end of the line)?  It seems like a
 display_filter would be the solution, except that you probably only want
 the filter applied to messsages with this condition.  Is there a way to
 map / bind a key such that wil will redisplay the current message, but
 this time pass it through a display_filter first?
 
 Seems like this could help with a variety of broken-mailer issues like
 the \224 issue, the long line issue and others I can't think of.  You'd
 just use bind a different filter for different problems.

Absolutely, that \224 thing kills me. Mutt should really be able to
handle that issue a little better. After all, it does pretty much
everything I need except make me a cup of tea (sometimes asking the wife
nicely works :-) so why can't it do that?
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: People who don't wrap their lines

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Knute declared
 I just got an email with the long lines thing.  I didn't even realize it
 till I replied to the message and the reply indicator only showed up at
 the beginning of each paragraph!  Pretty wierd!

Yep, aggrovating isn't it? That's where my par trick comes in handy. It
doesn't stick quote chars in on every line but will make sure it breaks
at 72 which helps somewhat.

- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: People who don't wrap their lines

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Cameron Simpson declared
 | No. hehe, but a nice gentlemen from 'the rolling hils of south carolina'
 | sent me this handy little vim macro:
 | 
 | map C-l {!}par 72}j
 | 
 | Of course you need par installed, but it works a treat. Just hit ^l and
 | it will reformat the lines for you.
 
 Wouldn't fmt do ok? It'll mangle quoted text (which I presume is the
 advantage of par) but OTOH is already installed.

No idea, sorry. I didn't even know what par was untill this guy showed
me how to do it.
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: People who don't wrap their lines

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Christopher S. Swingley declared
  map C-l {!}par 72^M}j
 
 But this wouldn't do much of anything when reading a message in mutt
 would it?  Or do you have your pager set as vim?

No, my apologies, I misunderstood/misread the Q.
Bad wilson!
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: People who don't wrap their lines

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Philip Mak declared
 I'm having trouble reading messages from people who don't wrap their
 lines. They have it so that one paragraph is a very long line, but it
 
 Any idea what I'm talking about? I can forward a specific message that
 should cause these conditions.

No. hehe, but a nice gentlemen from 'the rolling hils of south carolina'
sent me this handy little vim macro:

map C-l {!}par 72
}j

Of course you need par installed, but it works a treat. Just hit ^l and
it will reformat the lines for you.

- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: problems with text wrappin?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Knute declared
  Hi everyone.
  Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail
  from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars
 
  Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all?
 
 Did you set Outhouse to do just a carriage return or a carriage return
 and a line feed?

No idea, I just went into where it let you set the wrap width and
changed it from 76 to 72. Lot's of Lookout! users messages appear to be
all one line to me but they swear blind they're not.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: problems with text wrappin?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then David T-G declared
 Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even
 though you think you are.  I have found that I have to really, really,
 really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so.  Don't forget to turn off
 any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and
 forwards use plain text.

Thanks, it really is a pile of, huh?


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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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problems with text wrappin?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone.
Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail
from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars

Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all?

What gives?
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Why is this an attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi
Can anyone tell me why this was received as an attachment?

**Headers**

- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 31 14:54:42 2002
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:54:42 +0100
From: 'Nick Wilson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Studenterne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ossetelse
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: 61DDCC7522E4D411915600A0C99E9CE6230239@localhost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In-Reply-To: 61DDCC7522E4D411915600A0C99E9CE6230239@localhost
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i
X-PGP-Key: http://www.explodingnet.com/pgp/key.txt


Much thanks
- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Pity that mutt doesn't read news - what's the best match?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Charles Jie blurted
 I have been a netscape user. Now I'm satisfied with mutt and will not go
 back to netscape except one thing - reading news groups.

Apparently it does. I believe their is a patch for it, probably on the
links section of mutt.org

I'm sure someone else will provide more details.
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
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Re: Pity that mutt doesn't read news - what's the best match?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then John P Verel blurted
 Slrn, as others have said.  My model is Mutt/Slrn/Vim.  Fabulous all
 around.  The threading can not be beat, IMHO :)

Well, I'm sold.
Is slrn as tricky as mutt in the beggining?

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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2 Q's about printing...

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone.

Currently I have to print msg's via the pipe command. I have 2 questions
regarding this:

1.  How can I print only the headers I see on the screen as opposed to
all of them when I '| lpr'?

2.  Why do I /have/ to pipe to lpr? It doesn't work if I just print.


Much thanks as always.
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: 2 Q's about printing...

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Igor Pruchanskiy blurted
 I am using muttprint. It is superior. I have used a2ps and enscript
 before, but i ended up with muttprint and i love it. Even though my boss
 makes fun of a cute little penguin :)

Hmmm much thanks everyone. I'll try the var stuff this evening but
where do I get muttprint and is it a GUI thing?

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Organization revisited...

[Nick Wilson]

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Hello Mutt people, 

I wondered if I might ask you to share some organizational tips/methods
with me. In particular, Aliases.

My .mutt.aliases file is getting a little large now it's and not always 
easy to remember how I've named people. Do you guys split them up into
separate files for work | personal | etc? 

How can I better organize my contacts?
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Organization revisited...

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Gary Johnson blurted
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:03:36AM +0100, Cedric Duval wrote:
   My .mutt.aliases file is getting a little large now it's and not always
   easy to remember how I've named people.
  
  You might be interested in trying the Little Big Brother Database, and
  the m_inmail module in particular:
  
http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/

Hmmm... I'll go have a look a little later this am.

 I had been
 using an aliases file for my personal address book, but as the file has
 grown, it's become less convenient to give everyone an alias, so I'll

Yes, that's exactly where I'm at. I'd only really got as far as thinking
about seperate alias files but the word 'database' had been lurking at
the back of my mind.

Thanks for the replies.
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted
 I just tested the patch, it applies correctly except for some language
 stuff.  I'll send Dale a mail about that.

Hmmm... Got my clean version (27i) and I can't do it :-( I fear my
education is lacking. Might I enlist a liitle help?
Here's what I'm doing and getting

from inside the untarred mutt dir:

$ patch --dry-run -i ../dales_patch-xxx

patching file PATCHES
patching file init.h
patching file muttlib.c
patching file pgp.c
patching file protos.h
patching file send.c
can't find file to patch at input line 147
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
- --
|--- mutt-1.3.26/doc/muttrc.man Fri Jan 18 12:29:26 2002
|+++ mutt-1.3.26/doc/muttrc.man Sun Jan 20 09:03:14 2002
- --
File to patch: 

and that's where I'm stuck, I've tried -p0 and -p1 instead of -i but
no joy. Can you see what mistake I'm making?

Many thanks
- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
 On Jan 29, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  from inside the untarred mutt dir:
  $ patch --dry-run -i ../dales_patch-xxx
  [snip]
  and that's where I'm stuck, I've tried -p0 and -p1 instead of -i but
  ^^
 Not instead of.  You need both.
 
 patch -p1 -i ../dales_patch-xxx

Hmmm... Thanks Jeremy, that's getting results, unfortunately it's
failing on each hunk?



- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
 On Jan 29, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  Hmmm... Thanks Jeremy, that's getting results, unfortunately it's
  failing on each hunk?
 
 What output?

Here ya go ..

patching file PATCHES
patching file init.h
patching file muttlib.c
patching file pgp.c
patching file protos.h
patching file send.c
patching file doc/muttrc.man
Hunk #1 succeeded at 2415 (offset 11 lines).
patching file po/ca.po
patching file po/cs.po
patching file po/da.po
patching file po/de.po
patching file po/el.po
patching file po/eo.po
Hunk #1 succeeded at 3168 (offset -1 lines).
patching file po/es.po
patching file po/et.po
patching file po/fr.po
patching file po/gl.po
patching file po/hu.po
patching file po/id.po
patching file po/it.po
Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/it.po.rej
patching file po/ja.po
patching file po/ko.po
patching file po/lt.po
patching file po/nl.po
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/nl.po.rej
patching file po/pl.po
patching file po/pt_BR.po
patching file po/ru.po
patching file po/sk.po
patching file po/sv.po
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/sv.po.rej
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patching file po/uk.po
patching file po/zh_CN.po
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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Dale Woolridge blurted
 In short, you may safely ignore these three failures.  Everything else
 will have been applied correctly and will work correctly.

Yep, and it's a definate improvement on the outlook patch!

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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted
 Hi Nick,
 
 the $p_o_c patch sets the header 
 
 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=msg.pgp
 
 which is why Outlook shows an attachment.  There is a patch from Dale


No, I mean $p_c_t (pgp_create_traditional) along with the outlook compat
patch, Which is why I can't understand why she's getting both the
message /and/ an attachment containing the message?

Most worrying :(

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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Nick Wilson blurted
 No, I mean $p_c_t (pgp_create_traditional) along with the outlook compat
 patch, Which is why I can't understand why she's getting both the
 message /and/ an attachment containing the message?

One of those days, You just made a typo, we /are/ talking about the same
thing :) I got the patch but can't seem to apply it. If anyone else has
experience of using it please help. Oterwise I'll post a seperate threas
for a little assistance.

Thanks again!

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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then David T-G blurted
 
 % thing :) I got the patch but can't seem to apply it. If anyone else has
 % experience of using it please help. Oterwise I'll post a seperate threas
 % for a little assistance.
 
 Keep us posted, because I will be incorporating it into my cocktail as I
 am able and will then have info for you if you still need it -- and will
 want your info if you've licked the problem.

Well, I think it's my lack of experience with patch that's the problem
but if you try it yourself perhaps I can follow your steps as I'd really
like to get it done. In fact, saying that I think I'll send Mr Woolridge
a mail and see if he'll lend a hand.

If I get it sorted I'll let you know.

Take care

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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted
 I just tested the patch, it applies correctly except for some language
 stuff.  I'll send Dale a mail about that.
 
 However, this is on a fresh mutt tarball (1.3.26i), and looking on the
 patch, I don't think it'll apply if you have the outlook_compat patch
 applied.

Aha! Therein lies the problem I think, I have the originaly patch in
place. Cheers.

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Re: Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Dale Woolridge blurted
 In fact, the patch is really meant as a replacment for the outlook_compat
 patch.  Many people agree that outlook_compat is a misnomer, so I simply

and the confirmation. Great, at least it wasn't me being a dope,
I'll get onto it this morning.

 I'll be updating the patch in the next few days (I hope) with some other
 suggested changes: the ability to sign/encrypt selected text parts; and

How do we get to hear about such creations Dale?
Is this what's discussed on mutt-dev?

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Mails received as attachment?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all
I just spoke to an Lookout! user who says she's getting my emails as
both normally and as an attachment at the same time. This is most
strange and confusing.

I have the outlook compat patch and as you can see I use $p_c_t so
everyone can understand me so why is this happening?

Thanks very much
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resending a msg

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone,
and a very merry Friday to you all.

I'm sure I've seen a key binding for resending a message but can't find
it? How is that done?

For now I've just bounced the message which I guess should send it again
but I'd like to know how this is normally done.

Much thanks

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Re: resending a msg

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Ben Logan blurted
 The default keybinding is ESCe.  At least that's what it is on my
 system, and I don't think I re-bound it.

Yep, thanks Ben.
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Re: resending a msg

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
 FWIW, you could hit '?' to see the keybindings, then '/resend' to search
 for resend, and you would find resend-message bound to esce.

Sure, believe it not I did try that, I must have made a typo and not
noticed because I just tried it again and of course it worked. I
couldn't find it when I looked through '?' either though: Odd.

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Re: macros help

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Benjamin Smith blurted
 The following should be a working macro:
 
 macro pager \cd exitdelete-thread
 
 This is infact contrary to the documented behaviour in the manual which
 says that a caret not \c indicates the control key. Is this a
 documentation bug?

Must be, I don't know how I managed to get it working wiht ^D but it
didn't last long.
Your version works great.
Thanks guys!


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Re: macros help

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
 No, please read it again.  What it says is that ^ is an _alternative_ for
 specifying a control character when used in the _sequence_ portion of a
 macro.  \c is the only documented way to get a control character in the
 _key_ portion of a macro or keybinding.

That makes sense, it's not very clear though as both of us were reading
it the same way. On the whole I find the manul /relatively/ simple in
most places but that bit is just plain trickey :)


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Problem with locale?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all
I'm having a problem with an FAQ
I keep getting ? and char codes etc instead of certain charicters.
I've checked my LC_CTYPE and it's 'en_US' but er.. I'm not sure what to
so with it. The FAQ says to set it to the correct value but what's that,
and how do I do it?

I'm a tad confused.


Thanks very much
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Re: Don't mention MUAS to fight html email

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Michael Montagne blurted
 I often read about the evils os HTML email and since I do all my email
 with mutt now, I appreciate text email.  But something I don't
 understand is the argument that it slows down the internet for everyone.
 Isn't HTML just text?  The tags are evaluated and formatted at the

Sure is.

 client.  So is it just that there is more text than there needs to be?

That would be the way I understand it. One or two don't hurt but once
those few extra bytes are multiplied thousands of even millions of times
it's a bigger deal.


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Re: \223 and \224

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Christopher S. Swingley blurted
 Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set?
 The ` or ' characters show up in Mutt as \222 (contractions) \223
 (left single quote) and \224 (right single quote).  In the original
 file they're 0x92, 0x93 and 0x94 (not ASCII, obviously).

That looks exactly like what I've been getting.
Do you also get '?' chars coming up unexpectedly?

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Re: multipart/alternative

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then JT blurted
 As to an idiots guide to mime types, I don't think so.  The best you can 
 get is ... 'read the RFCs' and 'pray' :)

Yeah. Thanks guys, reason I asked was that I've gotten a couple of odd
mails from one of the w3c lists i'm on. multipart/alternative and when I
open if it's just full of stuff that looks very much like a pgp sig,
only *much* longer?

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Re: Deleting Mass emails..

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
 On Jan 23, Jason Nealis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  What's the easyiest way to delete message 1-2000? 
 
 D~m 1-2000
 
 D   - delete-pattern
 ~m 1-2000   - pattern for messages 1-2000

Would that make it
D~m *

if I wanted to completely empty a mailbox?


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Re: Guide.

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted
  Have you been to www.mutt.org ?
 
 Yes.

Well, it's all there.
Try www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-2.html (getting started)
and www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 (for the set editor bit)
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Re: [OT] html email

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Thomas Huemmler blurted
 if you are using Debian, you can install the dictd Dictionary Server, 
 the dict Client and the Jargon File with the command

Hmmm... Actually I'm RedHat but I'm sure I can do something similar,
I've bookmarked the page but have not had time for more than a quick
glance as of yet.

Thanks
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macros help

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone.

I have this line in my rc file

macro pager d exitdelete-message

which makes sure that when I delete a message I'm taken back to the
index.

I'd like to do the same thing if I decide to delete a thread. I've tried
the following...

macro pager ^d exitdelete-thread

to no avail. Anyone spot what I'm doing wrong?

Much thanks
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Re: char % as quote

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Anh Lai blurted
 How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like 

set indent_string=% 

 apparently David only uses this, and i would like to learn how to add %
 as a quote indicator.

Oh boy, are you in for it!

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Re: [OT] html email

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Gary Johnson blurted
 It depends on how you have mutt configured.  I have my mailcap file and
 auto_view command set up to display HTML attachments as plain text in
 mutt's pager and have display_filter set to remove the [-- ... --]
 lines that mutt adds.  Except for a slight delay as the longer

Could you post that line?
That /is/ kind of annoying seeing those lines.
Saying that though I would still like an idicator that it is indeed html
mail.

 I receive a lot of internal memos from administrative assistants
 (formerly known as secretaries) formatted as HTML.  I used to explain to

And still collectively known as 'Doris' in some male dominated firms, or
so I've heard (ahem) ;)

 2.  I got tired of explaining text-only MUAs to them only to receive
 comments like, I guess Unix isn't very good if it can't even
 display different colors and fonts like my PC can.  When are you
 guys going to start using Windows?

Classic, that's the kind of comment that gets me all raging and frothing
at the mouth. What do you say to comments like that? There's no point,
they'll never get it :(

 3.  In all fairness [donning flame suit now], HTML e-mail looks better
 to most users than does plain text.  You can change the font, you
 can put individual words or titles in bold or italics.  The
 presentation is just nicer.  A lot of people take pride in how their

Yes, it's a good point. I don't think you need your flame suit, it's a
point worth making.


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Re: macros help

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Michael Tatge blurted
 I bet that works, except you press the wrong keys. :)
 Ctrl-d is \cd in mutt. See manual section 3.3.

Not sure I get you there but I eventually solved it by using '^D' as
opposed to '^d'

Cheers
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Re: multipart/alternative

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then JT blurted
 Sounds like someone sent a part that got base-64 encoded.  There should be 
 something like a filename or some information in the Content-headers for 
 that part which tell you something about it.

Yes, it was base-64 encoded.
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macros or hook?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all, 
I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or
*compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for
each one (on the attribution for replying and on the top line for
composing). 
I'm not sure how to do it, I looked at hooks but didn't see one that
seemed to fit?

Thanks
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Re: macros or hook?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Maarten den Braber blurted
 Can't you bind a macro to the key that you press when replying and when
 composing a message?

Well, I'm not sure hence the subject line to this thread. If I knew how
to do either one I would have done it :)
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Re: macros or hook?

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Maarten den Braber blurted
 Maybe it's A Good Thing to give an example to ;-), here it is:
 
 bind index r noop
 bind index m noop

What's a noop?

 macro index m :set editor=\vim -c ':0;/Subject'\\\nmail
 macro index r :set editor=\vim -c ':0;/^$'\\\nreply

Hmmm Yeah, I getcha. How does mutt know how to reply/compose as well
though? Is that them noop buggers?

Much thanks Maarten.
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* and then Will Yardley blurted
 why not just use different macros for 'compose' and 'reply' - ie:
 (untested)
 macro index m :set editor=blah\nmail
 macro index r :set editor=blah\nreply
 macro index R :set editor=blah\ngroup-reply
 macro index L :set editor=blah\nlist-reply

Ah now I see a pattern, you can put the mail thingy in the set editor
bit. So how might it look with this line:

 set editor=vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'

like this?

 set editor=vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'mail

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* and then Maarten den Braber blurted
 i don't get your question, do you mean how mutt knows when to reply or
 compose? that's in the 'm'ail and 'r'eply keys i use.

Yes, sorry. I put 2 and 2 together once I'd seen Wills post, and saw the
mail again. 
Cheers, I'll start messin' with it!
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* and then David Champion blurted
 The \n terminates the :set editor command. It's the same action
 as pressing the ENTER key. mail inside a macro tells mutt to
 execute the mail function. This is bound to m by default. Most
 people probably write their macros with keystrokes -- like : for
 enter-command, and m for mail -- but using the binding names makes
 your macros more universal, should you wish to share them or to change
 your own bindings later in life.

Well I did Maatens keystroke way like this:

macro index m :set editor=\vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'\\\nmail
macro index r :set editor=\vim +'/^$/+1' -c ':set textwidth=72'\\\nreply

But I must say that I find it confusing, there are unequall  pairs
which I guess has something to do wiht \\\n but that too confused me :)
Worked though huh?

I've settled on:

macro index r enter-commandset editor=\vim +'/^$/+1' -c ':set 
textwidth=72'\enterreply
macro index m enter-commandset editor=\vim +'/^$/' -c ':set 
textwidth=72'\entermail

Much easier to read for a dope like me!

Thanks very much for all the help it's very much appreciated mutters.
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* and then Maarten den Braber blurted
  like this?
  
   set editor=vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'mail
 
 Almost. You can only use the mail 'thingie' in a macro definition,
 $editor is just the editor variable.

Thanks Maarten, got it now. One last thing: I wrote 4 macros (r,g,L,m)
for the index and then wrote then *again* for the pager. Could I have
done that more efficiently?

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* and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted
 He said I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript. I don't
 know about you, but to me this is equivalent to What browsers support
 javascript?

Is this thread still going? You two are like a couple of late night
drinkers. The chairs are up on the tables, the barman keeps looking 
at his watch and there's bugger all chance of another beer.

FWIW that was the way I read that part of this thread.

Have fun!


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* and then Ross A. Osborn blurted
 Is anybody else getting tired of this debate?  Could you fellas take
 this off-line somewhere?

No! Don't kill it now, I was there at the begining and I've come over
all parental at thought of killing such a beutiful monster.

 I've been using mutt for a couple of years though I've only been on this
 list a couple of weeks.  The signal-to-noise ratio here really sucks.

Rubbish! ;-)

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* and then Brian Clark blurted
 :0:
 * ^From.*pc-html-user@domain\.com
 /dev/null
 
 Save yourself from having to explain further. :-)

Hehe, yeah, that'd do it!

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* and then Roman Neuhauser blurted
 Like this?

   if(/^Content-Type: text\/html/  hasaddr([EMAIL PROTECTED]))
   to $MBOXDIR/crap
 
 X-Warning: had a few beers.

Anyone got the equivelant Procmail recipe for dumping mail if it's text/html ot not 
addressed to you? I use this to get the latter:

:0:
* !(^[EMAIL PROTECTED])
~/Mail/Other/suspect

Which works fine, adding the ability to weed out html would make it much
better.

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* and then Will Yardley blurted
 i agree with recent posts about this list. this used to be one of the
 lists i enjoyed reading most since most people had good ettiquette
 (unlike many other mailing lists i'm on) and since it had a minimum of
 useless / rediculously long threads.  however i am definitely getting

Funny you should say that, I remember the good intentions of this
thread:

 This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory.
 Check the archives for more so that we don't have to get into it again :-)

So much for that :)

 close to unsubbing at this point. by all means say something if you have
 something constructive to add... but if you don't, then try to think for
 a few minutes before posting.

How about 'stick around Will, it's not that bad and you give good
answers'?

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* and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted
 Yes, but the same could be said for all quoted text, so why quote at
 all?

That's a good point!
A few people went a little 'foaming at the mouth' on this topic over tha
last few days but it all boils down to just a little tolerance of what
others perceive as necessary quoting and I may not. As long as no one
get's really quote happy all is well :)


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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17 
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park said

 Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
 
  * On 21-01-02 at 23:17 Brian Foley said
 
   Some of the more extreme past members of this list would have
   blasted you out of the water for: a) using a two-line attribution at
   the top of all your quotes
 
  Oops, I just thought it looked neater as it was a little long.  I
  don't think it does any harm though eh?
 
 I think it looks much better on one line, like I changed yours to
 above. Also, you could try to be creative with your attribution, like me
 or others here.

I must admit to toying with several ideas but not coming up with
anything I was happy enough with yet. You're right about the one line
thing though and as soon as I can come up with something suitably silly
I'm in.


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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17 
* Thomas Hurst said

 _Replying to a message_
 
 By:  Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On:  Monday, January 21, 2002, 16:54:47 -0700
 Re:  blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
 
 I agree, although I question the actual utility of dates and times in
 attributions;  if people need that sort of detail shouldn't they look up
 the thread?
 
  Also, you could try to be creative with your attribution, like me or
  others here.
 
 Like mine?  It's only 6 lines, and it's *so* useful.  Honest..

I think yours might be just a little much, I'm getting my arse kicked
here about trimming, a six line attribution? That's as good as David's
quotation chars :)


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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17 
* Jonathan Irving said

 Simple: defaults.  Default behaviour is what most non-technical
 users end up with.  I've heard it called flashing 12:00
 syndrome, referencing the inability of most over-12-year-olds to
 program a VCR.

Hehe, I like the 'flashing 12:00 reference although I'm sure the age
limit is a little higher.


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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17 
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park said

 
 TheBat! is by far the best windows mail program I've seen (unless mutt
 is available for windows and I don't know about it). It sure beats
 Netscape Mail or LookOut, anyway.

Does it support threading? I've been idly looking for something to
reccomend to Win users that frequent some of the mailing lists I'm on.
You don't really appreciate threading untill you've tried to follow a
topic on a list full of Outhouse users.

 
 Of course, that's like saying I have the best tasting poo out of
 everybody here! ;)

Hey! I havn't even had breakfast yet!

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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

* On 22-01-02 at 12:28 
* René Clerc said

 Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
 saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
 time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim!

Thank god for that, I thought I was going mad :)


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* On 22-01-02 at 12:43 
* René Clerc said

   Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
   saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
   time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim!
  
  This is not correct at all. It is just lazyness as you also
  demonstrated. It took me max 2 seconds to trim this mail.

This is getting silly, although I'm kinda glad to see that I'm not the
only one getting flamed by the ridiculously righteous anymore (sorry
Rene :) 

 
 You're overdoing it. You're *way* overdoing it. Get back to my mail.
 If I just quoted you, it would start with Bullshit. I think it would
 be convenient for the readers to read *in context* (that means, in the
 same mail) what you think is bullshit.

Here, here, behave Preben your being somewhat over zealos at best and
downright silly at worst.


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Hi all
I've been looking at the different variables associated with the print
function and can't work out why Mutt is telling me 'Printer: Nothing to
print'?
I'm sure it's me being daft but if anyone can point out where I'm going
wrong here that would be great.

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* On 22-01-02 at 15:06 
* Brian Clark said

 * David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]:
 
  % for, but it was the thread where someone was picking on Dave's (%)
  % quote prefix. (I gather this isn't the first time someone on the
  % list has picked on him about that prefix. ;-))

Anyone remember the subject or something of that thread, I'd like to
have a look at it.

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* On 22-01-02 at 16:45 
* Knute said

 So set it up to edit your headers in your text editor, that way you can
 see what it is and make sure it's right.

Covering old ground here min gamle ven (I'm guessing you'll understand
that bit!) David TG covered this.

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* On 22-01-02 at 18:08 
* Christian Schoepplein said

 I agree 100%!!! To quote mails in the right way is helpful for anyboody 
 and not only for blind or visually handicapped persons. I'm a blind 
 computeruser and I get mor then 1000 mails the day and its really not 
 funny to grub thru this messages, if they are quoted badly. I don't need 

I don't think there's anyone who wouldn't agree with you on that point!
You don't *read* 1000 messages a day do you :)

 is good enough to handle most things quite well. But it annoyes me if 
 unnecesary techniques were used, to get very simple things working. For 
 example javaskript or flash are often difficult to handle for blind 
 linuxusers, but many persons using this crap to setup a simple website. It 

And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know
you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such
lengths to read sites like cnn.com.

 Just my 0.2$ to this monsterthread ;-).

Yep, and it's still growing!

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* On 22-01-02 at 18:51 
* Christoph Kampe said

 Is there any folder-hook, to change the xterm-title displaying the name
 of the mailbox i'm changing in? 

Why? Sorry I can't answer, just curious :)

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* On 22-01-02 at 15:58 
* David T-G said

 % Anyone remember the subject or something of that thread, I'd like to
 % have a look at it.

 The subject was 'Quoting when replying', and it got nasty around 12/17.

Whooa! That was almost as ugly as this thread has been in places.
Geeks can be real bitchy huh?

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* On 22-01-02 at 19:31 
* Dan Boger said

 I have in my muttrc this line:
 
   set editor=vim -u ~/.mutt/vimrc -c ':0;/^$'
 
 which will tell vim to start after the headers, so I'll be positioned to
 trim the quoted text.

Fantastic!
How might I incorporate a tw command in that?
This is what I have for mine (nicked it from somewhere else so I don't
understand all of it but it works :)

 set editor=vim -c 'set tw=72 et'

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* and then Christian Schoepplein blurted
 
  And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know
  you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such
  lengths to read sites like cnn.com.
 
 No, the problem is, that I have to work on the textbased console if I want 
 to use linux, becouse there is no screenreader (speech or brailleoutput) 
 for totaly blind people which makes the grafical enviroment 
 (kde etc.) accessible. So I have to use for example lynx to visit 
 websites, but lynx has no support for javascript. There are 
 windowsscreenreaders who can handle javascript (for example jaws), but I 
 don't want to use windows to much ;-). Linux is a perfect system for blind 
 computerusers and even if you are restricted on the textbased enviroment 

Is this because of the keystroke vs mouse click thing?
I've been using more and more console apps over the last few months and
generally find that programs like Mutt are sooo worth the initial
learning curve with regard my eyesight /and/ general ease of use.

I'd love it if you could send me (off list I think) any useful links on
this topic.

 problems for my: The first is the webbrowser and the second is an 
 officeaplication wich is compartible with the ms-office (I sometimes hav 
 to write text in word for my job). 

Yeah, I can imagine. Lynx is great but only really good for techy sites
and manuals and stuff. No idea about compatible office software, I use
Star Office in X but even that isn't /really/ compatible.

Take care

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Nick Wilson

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Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox

[Nick Wilson]

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* and then Dan Boger blurted
 
 I guess something like this?  (I'm not a vim guru though)
 
   set editor=vim -c 'set tw=72 et;:0;/^$'

My Vim didn't like that but I think I've got it licked now :)
Cheers

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Nick Wilson

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validating traditional signitures

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all
I've been noticing that when Mutt encounters a clearsigned pgp signiture
that I'm not getting the little 's' flag in the index and I don't seem
to be able to validate the signiture in anyway.

What's all that about then?

Many thanks
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Nick Wilson

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setting Reply-To header

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi everyone.
I've been looking through the docs and can't find what controls the
Reply-To header. I want to set folder-hooks for some mailing lists I
subscribe to where the users are inclined to hit the 'reply button' in
Outhouse rather than send to the list.

Can someone please tell me where I need to be looking?
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: setting Reply-To header

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 13:15 
* Ken Wahl said

 On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:43:26PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
 
  Hi everyone.
  I've been looking through the docs and can't find what controls the
  Reply-To header. I want to set folder-hooks for some mailing lists I
  subscribe to where the users are inclined to hit the 'reply button' in
  Outhouse rather than send to the list.
  
  Can someone please tell me where I need to be looking?
  -- 
 
 set hdrs
 #add headers defined by my_hdr command to every outgoing message
 
 send-hook . my_hdr Reply-To: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #sets default Reply-To header
 
 send-hook ~t mutt.org my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #sets Reply-To for all messages sent to anything@mutt.org
 
 I *think* this is what you are looking for.

Certainly seems to be it although I'm having a little trouble getting it
to work. I keep getting a 'error missing parameter in line 316' (first
line of the code below)

send-hook . my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
send-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] set my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any thought?

Thanks
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: setting Reply-To header

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* On 21-01-02 at 14:12 
* Im Eunjea said

 * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-21 13:51]:
 
 [...]
 
  
  Certainly seems to be it although I'm having a little trouble getting it
  to work. I keep getting a 'error missing parameter in line 316' (first
  line of the code below)
  
  send-hook . my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  send-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] set my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' \
   my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yep, those little single quotes were the problem.
Thanks guys.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 14:40 
* Thomas Hurst said

 * Dave Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
   Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim quotations when replying
   ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it becomes outright rude.
 
  Learn to use your screenreader better, and teach it to ignore or skip
  over quote chars at the start of a new line.
 
 That would still leave you with a truckload of repeated and mostly
 irrelevent cruft, and not only for someone using a screenreader.
 
 Being able to skip quotes is no excuse not to trim them; not caring
 whether people will simply ignore your message because it appears to
 have no content isn't either.

How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
I'm very poor sighted and as a result there are many things I wish
people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
we spend all our time worrying about every minority
problem/consideration we'll never get *anything* done :)

 
 Perhaps mutt should demand confirmation for sending messages with more
 than 80% quoting..

Nah, people gotta choose how they do thier stuff.

- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 15:08 
* Preben Randhol said

 Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
  people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
  we spend all our time worrying about every minority
  problem/consideration we'll never get *anything* done :)
 
 Is it not a minority problem.

Sure it is, ask people who have reasonable sight how many
blind/partially blind people they know. I don't know any. I think
cutting down emails is definately a good thing but the way you've cut
this for example is overdoing it. That's a *very* selective piece of
editing there Preben.
I agree with Dave, time spent adjusting the screen reader would be a
good investment *as well* as people being sensible with their replys.

Sheesh, you think this is bad? Take a look at the RedHat list :=)

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 15:38 
* Thomas Hurst said

 * Nick Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
 
 You don't; quoting properly has nothing to do with who you're sending
 to, it's just basic email etiquette.  That it's easier for the blind to
 read is just a consequence of the mail being generally easier to read.

I agree whole heartedly. My point is that how much to quote is a matter
for interpretation and what Preben finds excessive, I may find
neccessary. Although I think we can all agree on the extremes and reach
sensible tolerance levels.

  I'm very poor sighted and as a result there are many things I wish
  people did that they don't that would make my life easier.
 
 Such as?

Overtaking me on my bike on the *inside*, I'm giving up cycling in town
this year mainly because if everyone followed the rules there'd be no
problem but when people do stuff I'm not expecting it can get a little
dangerous for everyone.
And I wish the supermarkets would keep stuff in the same places!

 
 Have you discovered the wonders of user CSS files that let you force
 websites to use sensible font types/sizes and well contrasted colours?
 :)

Sure, don't find I need it that often though.

- -- 

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 16:47 
* Derek D. Martin said

  Learn to use your screenreader better, and teach it to ignore or skip 
  over quote chars at the start of a new line. 
  
 That's a pretty inconsiderate attitude to take, and doesn't solve the 
 problem for people who still have to pay for their bandwidth, as is 
 not so uncommon in non-US locations. 

I think the quote is taken a little out of context.
Bandwidth's a bugger on mailing lists huh?

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: setting Reply-To header

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 17:02 
* Knute said

 You have your quotes in the wrong place.  Try this:
   send-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 They way you had it, was telling mutt to only look in the to field for
 the entire string, and no command.
 -- 

Knute, do you have your Mutt set to sort lists by threads?
This is the last couple of lines from the last mail in this thread;
 
 send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' \
   my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yep, those little single quotes were the problem.
Thanks guys.


Cheers
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 16:58 
* Derek D. Martin said

   Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
we spend all our time worrying about every minority
problem/consideration we'll never get *anything* done :)
   
   Is it not a minority problem.
  
  Sure it is, ask people who have reasonable sight how many
  blind/partially blind people they know. 
 
 This is irrelevant.  Over-quoting is inconsiderate, and affects
 everyone.  It causes us to have to wade through a bunch of irrelevant
 garbage to get at (and often FIND) the author's point.  Quoting out of
 context (i.e. writing your reply and then quoting the whole message
 after what you've written ) is also a problem, because it removes the
 context of the comment, increases ambiguity, and thereby makes it
 harder to get the author's point, and increases the likelihood that it
 will be misunderstood by a wide audience.

Well we certainly agree so far. Apart from the 'this is irrelevant bit'
If you go back over the messages in the thread you'll see the point.

  I think cutting down emails is definately a good thing but the way
  you've cut this for example is overdoing it.  That's a *very*
  selective piece of editing there Preben.
 
 I disagree entirely.  The comment Preben quoted above is EXACTLY the
 ammount that is needed to identify what his comment is in reference to
 less.  

And there's where we differ, my point was just that the line above where
preben decided to quote me was rather important. Is that where the
hostile tone is coming from?

 (assuming you've been following the thread at all), no more and no

Come on. :)

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 17:41 
* Preben Randhol said

 Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/01/2002 (17:20) :
 
  And there's where we differ, my point was just that the line above where
  preben decided to quote me was rather important. Is that where the
  hostile tone is coming from?
 
 No there is no hostile tone. But I wonder why one should quote large

well, it wasn't you I was refering to Preben. There was *definately* a
hostile tone in the response from Derek which I think came from me
daring to call blindess a minority problem. (Bad Wilson. in your
basket!)

 parts of a mail when everybody has alread read it. If one cannot follow
 a thread then on should go back and read the mails again. Over-quoted mails
 are like Word documents. You get a 100kb document containing 400b text.

I agree, I've been agreeing all along, I'm not sure where I've picked up
the 'Nick believes in over-quoting' badge. Not true, not true.

Regards
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 18:07 
* Derek D. Martin said

 If you're not following the thread, but you suddenly decide it's
 important, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!  You've already received the
 e-mails, so you should have them.  If you don't, there's always the
 archives.  (mutt-users has archives, doesn't it?)  
 
  Is that where the hostile tone is coming from?
 
 Not hostile.  Matter-of-fact, yes.  Occasionally emphatic, yes.  But
 never hostile.


Disagree, all this GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! nonsense is insulting.
Of course I've been reading the thread. 

 
  
   (assuming you've been following the thread at all), no more and no
  
  Come on. :)
 
 Come on where?  My point is perfectly valid.  You've either read the
 thread or you haven't...  If not, then why jump into the middle of it,
 without reading it?  Ok, ok, I admit I do this occasionally too.
 But if you don't have enough context in a message from a thread, then
 you really ought to (re)read the thread to see what it's about, rather
 than expecting everyone else to waste bandwidth.

I'm not expecting anyone to do anything. I have read the thread. I don't
like your rudeness and I'm taking my ball back.


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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 18:27 
* David T-G said

 % I agree, I've been agreeing all along, I'm not sure where I've picked up
 % the 'Nick believes in over-quoting' badge. Not true, not true.
 
 Come, Nick...  Join me...  Join the dark side and piss off everyone on
 the mutt-users list...  I am your father!

Haha, at last the voice of sanity!
This thread was begging to ruin my day, silly me, all it needed was a
bit of slap with the stupidity stick.

Nice one!

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 22:15 
* Cameron Simpson said

 | 
 | How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
 
 You can't. It's rude anyway. The amount of time you spend trimming stuff

Rude to do what? I don't follow you.

 to just the relevant stuff is _more_ than outweghed by the time saved
 to the list members as a whole, not to mention the readability of the
 mail archives and everything else.

As I've said half a dozen times in this thread  I *whole heartedly* support and 
practice the trimming of list mail.

I'm for it.
Deal me in.
I agree.
Help I'm losing my mind!
Cold beans 'aint hot.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 22:29 
* Nick Wilson said

Seeing as the sender of these next few lines didn't seem to want to send
them to the list. Here they are in all thier glory.

- ---

Funny that your reply on 'not trimming' was hardly (if at all) trimmed

 I'm very poor sighted and as a result there are many things I wish
 people did that they don't that would make my life easier. 

Yea, like it might be nice if every could read nicely trimmed messages. :

- 

I'm sorry guys but I feel that my messages are usually trimmed quite
thoughtfully. I have no reason to think that I'm doing anything wrong
and on that basis I will carry on as I am.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

* On 21-01-02 at 23:04 
* René Clerc said

 * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-01-2002 18:56]:
 
 [to Nick]
  You should change your quote char.  I'd find '@' particularly annoying,
  and nobody is using it yet.

Reckon there could be a reason there David. Hehe.

 
 I've finally come to my senses; changed from '| ' to ' '. Now it's up
 to that other pagan, David, to change ;)

You think that'll happen?
I like the @ idea but I think  or could be pretty bad too.

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Nick Wilson

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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 23:17 
* Brian Foley said

 
 Some of the more extreme past members of this list would have blasted
 you out of the water for:
 a) using a two-line attribution at the top of all your quotes

Oops, I just thought it looked neater as it was a little long.
I don't think it does any harm though eh?

 b) using a non standard sig (not delimited with --  and more than 4
 lines)
 
 I dont take issue with you for points a and b above, but it would make
 you emails neater (but that is a highly subjective term).

You hit the nail on the head there alright. I said somewhere way back
in the misty and regretable past of this thread that neatness was very
much a matter of opinion and that we could probably only hope to agree
on the extremes and meet somewhere within a reasonable tolerance zone.
(something like that anyway) and this thread has been a real eye opener
in many ways!


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Nick Wilson

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Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 21-01-02 at 23:17 
* Brian Foley said

 I got this email, did you bounce it to mutt-users as well?

Yes, sorry about that I thought it would just end up in the thread where
it belonged.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Whats new in 1.3.26?

[Nick Wilson]

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Hi all, 
I've been looking on the mutt site for some info on what's new in 1.3.26
but have drawn a blank. A pointer would be appreciated :)
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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: Whats new in 1.3.26?

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 19-01-02 at 12:49 
* Will Yardley said

 Nick Wilson wrote:
 
  I've been looking on the mutt site for some info on what's new in
  1.3.26 but have drawn a blank. A pointer would be appreciated :)
 
 a good bet would be the Changelog (in the main source directory).

No, tried there there was just some stuff from back in August. I'll have
a closer look though.
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Re: Whats new in 1.3.26?

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 19-01-02 at 13:22 
* Will Yardley said

 Nick Wilson wrote:
  * Will Yardley said
   Nick Wilson wrote:
   
I've been looking on the mutt site for some info on what's new in
1.3.26 but have drawn a blank. A pointer would be appreciated :)
   
   a good bet would be the Changelog (in the main source directory).
  
  No, tried there there was just some stuff from back in August. I'll
  have a closer look though.
 
 i think that would be a good idea!
 
 mutt-1.3.26/Changelog:
 
Thanks Will

Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: a little OT...

[Nick Wilson]

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and a little addition to that, it's now changing all the colors when I
view messages in the pager.

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
Web:www.explodingnet.com



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Re: a little OT...

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 18-01-02 at 17:50 
* David T-G said

 Nick --
 
 ...and then Nick Wilson said...
 % 
 % and a little addition to that, it's now changing all the colors when I
 % view messages in the pager.
 
 That says it's not vim, unless you have a very peculiar pager setting.
 Have fun debugging :-)

Nah, definately vim, I ended up turning off syntax highlighting and all
is well in the Wilson camp once more.
Seems that it was treating quoted text as code comments!

Thanks :)


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Nick Wilson

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Re: Hook?

[Nick Wilson]

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* On 17-01-02 at 11:36 
* David T-G said
 % 
 % Okay guys, I now have:
 % 
 % fcc-save-hook ~s att:  =Outbox/att
 
 Is this before or after your default fcc-save-hook?  Have you tried it
 the other way around?

It was  *after* my default fcc-save-hook, now I've put it the other way
around it works beutifully!

 
 
 % 
 % does it work?
 % does if @#*!
 
 You might try creating a folder-hook for =Outbox/att and then sending
 them from there...
 

Well, that's a good idea too, 

Thanks very much David and the rest of you guys for all the help on this
one.

Take care

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Nick Wilson

Tel:+45 3325 0688
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Web:www.explodingnet.com



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