Fw: Re: [LIH] mutt and gpg

2001-12-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Just FYI ... this is pretty good as far as I can see.

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From: USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:31:19 +0530
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIH] mutt and gpg
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:19:31AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
 
 is there any way in mutt to gpg-sign only certain messages?
 for example, when i post to the  LIH or any list,  i  don't 
 want to sign them 'coz they only cause confusions  but when 
 i'm doing other jobs i want the mails to be signed.
 
 --__--__--
---end quoted text---

Couldn't resist the temptation to do some advertising. Use
rotator ! It is capable of attaching LOSTS, any other sig,
No sig, or PGP/GPG sigs, for each mail individually chosen.
Works perfectly with mutt, and pine !! Nothing  else gives
you that wide a choice :-) 

http://geocities.com/usmbish/rotator-0.5.tar.gz

The official method ofcourse is send-hook switch in your
.muttrc. However how many addresses can  you  really block
with send-hooks ? PGP/GPG is NOT needed for  99% of mails.
It is possible to get responses from people saying  Could
not decipher the gibberish at the end of the mail/ att !

HTH

Bish


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Re: Inhibit display of MIME type during Autoview

2001-11-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Prahlad Vaidyanathan mutt [14/11/01 15:43 +0530]:
 Well, my problem stems from a Windows MUA called 'IncrediMail', which
 sends both plain-text and html mails - only the plain text mails are
 horribly formatted. Also, each line ends with a '^M'. I don't know if
 you've faced this problem, but it is immensely irritating trying to
 read those emails.

Bah.  Those are DOS line breaks.  set ff=unix (iirc) - or a macro to pipe
such mails through dos2unix before opening them - would do the trick.

-srs



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Re: Inhibit display of MIME type during Autoview

2001-11-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [14/11/01 10:41 -0500]:
 That they are, but I don't know of a ff setting in mutt -- are you
 suggesting that he set that in his editor for replying?

I'm talking about setting $editor to do such filtering in advance if this is
a bother.  And/or to piping the mail through such a filter before opeing it
in mutt's pager

 In order for that to work, he'd want to set fileformat=dos (under vim,
 anyway) and then open the file, and then change it to unix as he writes
 it.

eh?  how come?  vim automatically notes that the file is [dos] and tags it as
such ... ff (short for fileformat) works all right afaict.

 % such mails through dos2unix before opening them - would do the trick.
 I should think that using $display_filter would do nicely for these
 senders...

Just what the doc ordered

-srs



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Re: Super quotes regexp

2001-11-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Prahlad Vaidyanathan mutt [10/11/01 22:43 +0530]:
  HP Harry Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 HP blah blah blah
 HP blah blah blah
 HP blah blah blah

Yuck.  Hate it.  Especially when the supercite chews up ~ 10 characters
(quite often) from an 80 column display, mangling the rest of your
formatting.

 I don't know how to set the 'quote_regexp' variable to catch the lines
 beginning with HP - I've tried quite a few stunts, but in vain. The
 closest I've managed does work partially, but colours the lines in the
 colour assigned to 'quoted1', and not 'quoted', as I would like it.

set quote_regexp=^([A-Za-z ]+|[]%:|}-][]:|}-]*)

-srs

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Re: =20 characters at end-of-line

2001-11-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Peter Horst mutt [11/11/01 21:29 -0600]:
 If I edit a signed email with vim, it is littered with '=' and '=20'
 characters (at end-of-line).  I was curious as to what these might be,
 and whether there was anything I could do to keep them from appearing.

quoted-printable encoding.

-srs




Re: PGP sign mail without MIME

2001-11-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Thorsten Haude mutt [09/11/01 14:49 +0100]:
 * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 13:23]:
 in muttrc, I easily can set a sendhook such that every email gets
 signed by PGP.  But this always sets the MIME type accordingly.
   6.3.101.  pgp_autosign
   Type: boolean
   Default: no

Still not parseable by (say) Outlook and Eudora.  The best way to go is

macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0xEDEDEFB9

-srs
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Re: read-only

2001-11-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Matthew D. Fuller mutt [08/11/01 06:46 -0600]:
 I'd guess the mail directory was 1777 before.
 I've had this happen on my systems (FreeBSD) where, during the
 'installworld' process (which installs a fresh system from binaries just
 built from source, a common means of upgrading) the system runs an
 mtree(8) to double-check existence and permissions of directories, and

Wouldn't a .forward to move mail to ~/inbox or somewhere be a much better
idea (IMHO at least).

-srs



Re: Forcing mutt not to use SSL

2001-11-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


Gah.  TFM says ssl_starttls right next to all those options I was
looking at - and I missed it :(  I'm an idiot


-srs


*[Suresh Ramasubramanian on Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 10:08:09AM -0800]:
 Hi folks
 fetchmail: IMAP * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2001 Double
 Precision,
 Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
 fetchmail: IMAP A0001 CAPABILITY
 fetchmail: IMAP * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN NAMESPACE
 THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
  THREAD=REFERENCES SORT STARTTLS
 fetchmail: IMAP A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed
 
 How do I force mutt to ignore the STARTTLS?
 
   -srs



Re: [Q] Different From: addresses

2001-11-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [01/11/01 18:51 +0900]:
 Now I am on several mailing lists.
 But most of them reject me if I use different From:  address
 than the one I used when I joined them.
 So can I use a different From:  when I write an email to 
 mailing lists?

my_hdr From:
set envelope_from

take a look at http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html

-srs



Re: envelopes with local from header like AOL issue

2001-11-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Steffen Evers mutt [01/11/01 13:33 +0100]:
 It seems that some of the applied updates have broken my SMTP configuration.
 The task that envelope_from is doing has been done by my MTA (exim)
 before, but now, it does not.
 Even if you have no resolvable domain configured in your network settings
 (e.g. user@localhost) your MTA should realize this and take your From:
 address from the message instead.

Run eximconfig again, or configure exim by hand (far better than trusting a
perl script - however good - to do the job).

You have to likely set your username as a trusted user, as exim will not
accept changed envelope senders from an untrusted user.

http://www.hserus.net/exim.html for more information.

-srs

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Re: problem with sending

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Will Yardley mutt [31/10/01 04:43 -0800]:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a problem with sending mails through external MTA.
  How can i set up mutt to send through another host?
 
 you can't.

The best way is to either

[1] Set up your local MTA to smarthost through another host (see
http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html for sendmail / qmail / postfix / exim)

or

[2] Configure Masqmail / Nullmailer etc to do the same thing

-srs

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Re: [Q] send-hook

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [31/10/01 21:43 +0900]:
 I would like to apply different From:  address for every mailing lists.
 For example, 
 Message to A mailing list has From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message to B mailing list has From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Can I do that by 
 send-hook A set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 send-hook B set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 set envelope_from

Use procmail to sort different lists into their separate folders and use
my_hdr from.  See http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html for an example.

-srs

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Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Jesper Holmberg mutt [31/10/01 13:44 +0100]:
 Is it the fact that the U.S. government doesn't respect human rights that
 makes you so upset? If so, I'm all behind you.

It is the fact that this X-Echelon header game has become rather childish
that makes the guy so upset, I guess.

 * On Tue Oct 30, Dave Price wrote:
  I find your X-echelon header to be in INCREDIBLY poor taste!!! Change
  you settings or post somewhere else.
 
-srs

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Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Cliff Sarginson mutt [31/10/01 16:41 +0100]:
 Am I missing out on something here ?
 What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?

Echelon is supposedly the CIA's s00p3r s3kr17 new gadget to snoop on people's
email.  So, lots of 31337 d00dz here like to put in X-Echelon headers with
echelon bait such as AK 47, Osama Bin Laden, WTC, Airplane, Israel, Semtex
so that the Men In Black (tm) will waste their time trying to figure out
if a secret message is hidden in all the geek-speak and C code they post.

 Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
 if I have one ?

A tinfoil hat and lots of duct tape would be just as cool, I expect.

-srs (besides, they keep those darned mind rays out ...)

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Re: unable to post to AOL

2001-10-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

MuttER mutt [30/10/01 07:26 -0500]:
 My 'setup of SMTP' is not BROKEN.  It works fine.  As I said before,
 I only have had problems that I am aware of, posting to AOL.  I get
 error messages returned as I quoted previously.

If you were sending out mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] it _was_ broken

 What I don't understand is WHY I didn't have problems, since I had
 been unaware of envelope_from and it is unset be default ???

Because several providers are yet ignorant of how to properly configure a
mailserver to refuse mail from unresolvable domains?

-srs




Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Doug Kearns mutt [31/10/01 10:32 +1100]:
 On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 12:39:24PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
  # Use mutt.editor as our editor
  set editor=vim +':set textwidth=65' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} 
{i++}' %s\` %s 
 
 You could replace the awk invocation with +'/^$/+1'

Nice, thanks.

-srs



Re: Why no new stable-branch version?

2001-10-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Brendan Cully mutt [29/10/01 17:21 -0500]:
 only has one maintainer. Backporting fixes makes twice the work (or

[...]

 If you can convince Alan Cox to maintain the stable branch of mutt, I'm
 sure we'd all welcome him :)

Some of the debian people, otherwise - they are great at backporting ;)

-srs

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Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Matej Cepl mutt [30/10/01 01:20 -0500]:
 Is anybody able to help me (sorry, for OT question, but I guess
 that there are many vim users on this list), please?

Try this

# Use mutt.editor as our editor
set editor=vim +':set textwidth=65' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} 
{i++}' %s\` %s 

That line will wrap - unwrap it.

-srs



Re: How to use smail v3.2 with mutt v1?

2001-10-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Neo Sze Wee mutt [28/10/01 12:43 +]:
 There is a problem. Mutt v1 will pass the mail to sendmail by default and
 it also passes some arguments which smail, linked to sendamil, does not
 understand. As a result, the mails are send to /ver/spool/smail/error
 rather than /ver/spool/smail/input. Frankly, I am not sure smail v3.2 is
 working properly in the first place. The smail binary that I have does not
 have documentation and when I issue smail on the prompt after getting online
 it says smail [flags] address.

You can control the flags mutt passes to smail with the sendmail_command
variable in .muttrc

-srs



Re: unable to post to aol

2001-10-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

MuttER mutt [28/10/01 00:00 -0500]:
 addemdum to my own reply:  I added a 'send-hook':
   send-hook aol.com 'set envelope_from=yes'
 and set the default to OFF.
 This may be a problem with other locations, but I haven't found any, yet!

Is there any particular reason why you dont put set envelope_from in your
muttrc by default?  Not all that many providers are idiotic enough to accept
mail from unresolvable domains, these days.

-srs



Re: How to use smail v3.2 with mutt v1?

2001-10-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Neo Sze Wee mutt [27/10/01 13:54 +]:
 thank you.

As long as Smail is up and running there shouldnt be any problem at all.
Mutt doesn't care what is on localhost:25 as long as it exists.

-srs



Re: unable to post to aol

2001-10-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

pat mutt [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]:
 What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol?
 I get the following error:
 Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
 Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC)
 Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Action: failed
 Status: 5.0.0
 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said:
 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE
 I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of).

AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers.
Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users.  This is not a
mutt problem.

-srs



Re: Spam problem

2001-10-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Rob 'Feztaa' Park mutt [26/10/01 21:58 -0600]:
 On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 05:49:03PM -0700, Will Yardley (dis)graced my inbox
  if you have control over your mail server you might be able to setup
  something to reject the mail before it even enters your server.
 
 Now that's something I don't know much about. I am running a mail server
 on my machine, but I don't actually use it for receiving mail - I use
 fetchmail to get my mail from my ISP-given email address. As far as I

Try this - http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue66/suresh.html - it might help.

 know, fetchmail just passes it right along to postfix normally, right?
 Or does it just drop the mail straight into my spool file? If it's the
 former, I might be able to do that...

Depends on how you configure fetchmail.  The default is for fetchmail to talk
to localhost:25 so your postfix (look at the sample pcre file in the postfix
example configs for help) should bounce things rather nicely.

-srs

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Re: post failure ??

2001-10-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

pat mutt [25/10/01 23:40 -0500]:
 What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol?
 I get the following error:
 Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
 Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC)
  Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Action: failed
  Status: 5.0.0
  Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said:
  550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE

Check the MX and A records for your domain - and see you are not sending out
mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something.

You might ask on postfix-users instead of here.

-srs



Re: mutt in german language

2001-10-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [24/10/01 18:20 +0200]:
 Hello,
 it would be nice to have mutt-homepage/websites in german language too.
 Germany makes great powerfull steps in developping mutt...
 Lovely [not Taliban-] greetings

http://www.mutt.org has links to deutsche language howtos on mutt

-srs
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Re: mbox question

2001-10-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Norm Matloff mutt [18/10/01 11:54 -0700]:
 I'm a big fan of mutt, and have a small Web tutorial on it, at
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/mutt.html 
 In my tutorial, which I wrote several years ago, I say:
If  you  wish  to not have your messages moved from your original
mail file, then include something like this:
   set mbox=/var/mail/matloff

set move=no

 I am not a subscriber to the mutt mailing list, so please reply to me at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks very much.

BTW, your howtos are the first thing I point newbies at.  They are excellent.

--srs




Re: What header is used by mutt for threading?

2001-10-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Larry Hignight mutt [05/10/01 14:00 -0700]:
 I'm curious as to which header Mutt (or any other mua for that matter)
 uses to sort email into threads.  Someone on another list had said that
 it was the subject header, but I don't think it can be the subject

Subject, Message-ID, In-Reply-To, References

--suresh (did I miss any?)

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Re: Fetch many mailboxes

2001-10-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Brugier Pascal mutt [03/10/01 09:47 +0200]:
 I want to know if it's possible to fetch differents mail boxes
 (different user names and different passwords) on the same pop server
 at once fith the G command.

Use fetchmail + procmail for this

--suresh

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Re: How to save sent messages ?

2001-10-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

michel tran-ngoc mutt [02/10/01 20:28 +]:
 Could you tell me how to store the messages I've sent ?
 I don't know to configure muttrc to have this behavior. I've searched
 as far as I can but I couldnt find any answer and my sent mails are
 forgotten...

set record==sent-mail
 
-suresh

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Re: alias file perms error

2001-10-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . mutt [03/10/01 19:58 +0530]:
 sh: /home/spavri/.mutt_alias: Permission denied
 Press any key to continue...
 Ths is what I have:
 [spavri@farzaan spavri]$ ls -al .mutt_alias
 -rw---1 spavri   spavri   5228 Oct  3 19:46 .mutt_alias

chmod 755 .mutt_alias - that's a shell (or perl) script and should be
executable.

-suresh

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Re: alias file perms error

2001-10-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Suresh Ramasubramanian mutt [03/10/01 20:08 +0530]:
  Ths is what I have:
  [spavri@farzaan spavri]$ ls -al .mutt_alias
  -rw---1 spavri   spavri   5228 Oct  3 19:46 .mutt_alias
 chmod 755 .mutt_alias - that's a shell (or perl) script and should be
 executable.

Boggle ... I must have been cross-eyed, or drunk.  Your standard mutt aliases
file :(

 
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Re: Editing headers in Vim + clear text GPG signing

2001-10-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [01/10/01 11:47 +0200]:
 I'm trying out some ways to clear text sign a message in mutt, using
 :%!gpg -eas


Instead, use

macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0xEDEDEFB9

and when you have hit :wq and come back to mutt (and are supposed to hit y
for the mail to go out), hit S first, to clearsign the mail.

-suresh


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Re: mailinglist not accepting mail from not-subscribed users

2001-10-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [01/10/01 06:17 -0400]:
 % Hi,
 % standard from address (since I'm subscribed with an address specifically
 % for this list). Currently I just change the from-address, but I'm
 You can use a send-hook for that to make things easier, BTW :-)

Also, set envelope_from

-suresh


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Re: Error sending message, child exited 1 ().

2001-10-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Philipp Boksberger mutt [01/10/01 00:52 +0200]:
 I intalled mutt and exim some days ago ane everything worked fine. But
 now I have problems in sending mails. I get the following error-message:
 Error sending message, child exited 1 ().
 What does this mean?

Is sendmail (or your local MTA / message submitter) up and running?

--suresh
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Re: Encrypt and mailing lists

2001-09-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

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Derek D. Martin mutt [29/09/01 19:21 -0400]:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Karlheinz Eckmeier wrote:
  I'd like to encrypt messages to a special mailing list which a small
  group of people is using to exchange informations. I have the keys of
  all the people on the list but mutt allows me to select only ONE key 
  from the list of available keys before sending off the message.
  Is there a way to encrypt a message to a single mail address with
  multiple keys?
 
 Since the list is small, you could maintain your own (mutt) alias
 which expands to all the members of the list.  This defeats the
 purpose of having a mailing list, and means you'll have to manage it
 manually, but it should work.

The best way is to create a separate key for the list - and signed with all
your keys to show that you trust it entirely.  Encrypt mail to that list key.

--suresh

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Re: Filtering imap mail with a macro

2001-09-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David mutt [30/09/01 12:47 +1000]:
 I'm just wondering if it would be possible to use fetchmail or
 equivalents to pull the mail off the imap server then sort it with
 procmail/maildrop/etc ? 

Easily - but that's the whole point of an imap server - leaving mail on the
server side.

--suresh


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Re: sig dashes

2001-09-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Brian Medley mutt [29/09/01 23:32 -0400]:
 It appears that my sigdash (^-- ) is being converted to (^- -- ) by the
 list.  Does anyone know why this is?  I checked the archives and
 groups.google.com, but no luck...
 
 -- 

Doesn't happen here.  Unless, perhaps someone pgp-clearsigned their reply to
you?  PGP clearsigning escapes the sigdash with a (^- ) sequence.

--suresh

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Re: listen a song while reading a mail...

2001-09-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [29/09/01 23:34 -0400]:
 Sorry for my delay in following up, but I trust, from your later post,
 that you were either able to convince said sysadmin to install it as
 /usr/local/bin/mutt-1.3.22.1 or such or to install it in your home
 tree, right?

This was much earlier - when I first joined mutt-users and was posting with a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] addy (we all had NT workstations on our desktop there,
and user shells on a set of solaris boxen).  I compiled mutt 1.3 and used it
there, for the short time (~ 3 months or so) I stayed on in Juno.

After that, I've had linux / freebsd on my workstation ever since, so I
haven't bothered my sysadmin (heck, being a sysadmin myself instead of just
working on an abuse desk, I could have upgraded mutt myself) :)

--suresh


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Re: Encrypt and mailing lists

2001-09-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [30/09/01 00:00 -0400]:
 I think that an even better way would be to have a public key for the
 mail list and for the list software to have everyone's public keys; you
 encrypt the message so that only the list server can read it (simple on
 your end), and it decrypts it and then tirelessly (albeit perhaps slowly)

This will not scale - and an MTA / listserv is not supposed to monkey with
the content of mail it sends across IMHO, by pgp signing, character set
conversion or any other method.

 [Alternatively, you could create a list key and distribute both the public
 and private halves to list members (only!) and encrypt to that key and
 send the encrypted message via any list server.  Or is that what you were
 suggesting, Suresh?]

Exactly.  This would mean a list where subscription means meeting the
moderator somehow and exchanging keys with him ... each member then signs
that list key with his key to show that he trusts it.

--suresh

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Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ

2001-09-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Morten Liebach mutt [25/09/01 09:27 +0200]:
 I think you can make patch, then apply your 3rd party patch, and then
 a make install.

I'll see if I can contact the patch maintainer and move it into the freebsd
ports tree.  I'd hate to do it everytime I cvsup and install a new mutt.

-suresh

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Re: OT - weird sendmail error msg

2001-09-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Dan Boger mutt [25/09/01 09:45 -0400]:
 yes, I know it's way off-topic, but I figure people here might know...
 what would make sendmail barf on a queue, saying Deferred: Permission
 denied?  Trying to help a friend's site, with about 600 msgs stuck in
 the queue, and more gathering there all the time...

Post some logs willya?  Likely a permissions problem in his mail spool, or
elsewhere.

--suresh

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Re: Mutt and SMTP-AUTH

2001-09-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Abu Hudzaefah mutt [26/09/01 09:40 +0700]:
 How to set mutt with smtp-server using SMTP-AUTH?
 Anybody please help me.

That's the job of your local sendmail / exim / postfix or whatever.
RTFM the FAQs of whichever MTA you use.

-suresh
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Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iD8DBQE7sVHMRB4r9e3t77kRAn1hAKCGV4DdmrcQqPVFBGFlfPBPdYSYWgCffDNm
wWWU5QY7l1qpzbL9k6424yY=
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Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ

2001-09-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [24/09/01 20:48 -0400]:
 % Now, what do I do?  Clearsign / encrypt it in the vim buffer itself?
 Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before.

I use freebsd's port collection - I'll see if I can work this into the port
I'm running.

-suresh


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Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ

2001-09-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Bruno Postle mutt [24/09/01 21:03 +0100]:
 That would be the right way to do it. I do it the wrong way in mutt :-),
 when I need to communicate with the nic.uk robot (it requires all sorts
 of annoying pgp things) I use:
 macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0x82C08753

And to encrypt / encrypt and sign?  Ah, no matter, I'll figure it out.

-suresh
 

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Re: Using urlview on image URLs.

2001-09-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Steve Cooper mutt [24/09/01 20:33 +]:
 The attached Python script loads the entire email into a GUI browser as
 HTML, with URLs made into real hyperlinks.

Nothing attached ...

 



Re: Mutt and GPG

2001-09-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David Rock mutt [24/09/01 22:31 -0500]:
 This would suggest that full justification is also not possible within
 vim natively. I don't have par installed, so I can't test to see if it
 would do it.


set editor=vim +':set tw=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\` 
%s

--suresh

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Re: configure breaks on libiconv

2001-09-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [24/09/01 19:22 -0700]:
 Am I missing something quite simple?

Are you running slak 8?  Someone reported that he got mutt to compile by
compiling against an older version of iconv

-suresh

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Re: newbie question; how to define an outbox

2001-09-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Stefan Antoni mutt [23/09/01 12:16 -0400]:
 I am a one-week-newbie in using mutt and i want to
 save my outgoing mail in an outbox like i can do
 it with KMail and other known email-clients.

set record==sent-mail

If you mean you are not permanently connected to the 'net and would like to
queue outgoing mail before sending it out, take a look at
http://www.hserus.net/sendmail.html (I see you are running sendmail)

 mbox.in  -- already created for incomming mail.
 mbox.out -- the mailbox for outgoing mail.

Your mail is automatically dumped to /var/[spool]/mail/$user - you can
procmail it / .forward it elsewhere if you like.

--suresh

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Re: different mutt settings...

2001-09-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Matthias LOITSCH mutt [22/09/01 19:14 +0200]:
 is it possible to have different mutt settings for different mail boxes?

Folder hooks.  Take a look at http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html

 and can i change all mails to read in specific mail boxes? (via procmail
 or mutt)

Procmail should do.

VERBOSE=off
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/proc.log
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail

#mutt
:0:
* ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$MAILDIR/mutt

-suresh

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Re: searching with collapsed threads

2001-09-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [22/09/01 14:19 -0400]:
 % Search for grepmail on freshmeat.
 
 Heh.  Thanks, but I meant within mutt; I can always just grep the file,
 too :-)

Grepmail is much better than the ordinary grep (customized for grepping
through mbox folders) - and afaik it works great along with mutt.  

-suresh


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Re: Read only inbox

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Doug Kearns mutt [21/09/01 19:25 +1000]:
 I've just recently upgraded to mutt 1.3.22 and it seems I can no longer
 delete mail from my inbox - /var/spool/mail/doug
 Could someone point me to the relevant documentation ?

Check the permissions of your mailbox - and see if there's a mutt dotlock
there ...

-suresh



Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
 msg.pgp


Re: deleting messages with same message id's?

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Dan Boger mutt [21/09/01 15:29 -0400]:
 hmmm... limiting on ~h [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
 limit my index to show only this past message... ?

Drat.  I was thinking of Tags.  You are right of course.

-suresh

-- 
key at wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net

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Re: Help with `par`

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Nate Johnston mutt [21/09/01 14:36 -0500]:
 I call par as 'par 72gqr' in a shell script, and my PARINIT is 
 rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s|, which is the reccomended default.
 Does anyone have any par configs they would reccomend?

  map V 0!}par w76

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Re: searching with collapsed threads

2001-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [21/09/01 16:44 -0400]:
 Is there a way to search every message in a collapsed mailbox and get
 any results?  I leave open, if this is unimplemented, of how to control

Search for grepmail on freshmeat.

 where the pointer lands (on the top of the thread, virtually (or actually,
 in the case of tagging) on the message in the collapsed thread, on the
 message in the uncollapsed thread, but hereby also make such a feature
 request :-)
 
--suresh

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Re: imap problem

2001-09-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David T-G mutt [20/09/01 08:35 -0400]:
 mutt does not talk SMTP directly as some other MUAs do.
 Check the archives for ssmtp for an example, or wait for Suresh to reply
 with pointers ;-)

You rang?  http://www.hserus.net/sendmail.html
Mahipal: If you face any hassles in this call me at 3736553 (yeah, I'm in
Hyderabad)

-suresh




Re: Defaulting to inbox on startup

2001-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [18/09/01 23:33 -0700]:
 Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or
 default to a folder that has new mail in it?

Mutt by default goes to /var/mail/$user (or /var/spool/mail/$user).  
Try mutt -y though - it brings you directly to the folder list.

 Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails.  I have
 successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters.
 However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved.  For

set editor=vim +':set tw=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\` 
%s 

single line - unwrap if necessary.

-suresh



Re: fetchming mail from imap

2001-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Johannes Zellner mutt [19/09/01 09:14 +0200]:
 is there a command to manuall fetch new mail (from imap) ?
 I've currently imap_checkinterval=30 which works fine, but
 for testing it would be sometimes nice to have a command to
 immediately fetch new mail.

$ = sync mailbox

-suresh



Re: bug? mutt can't detect hostname

2001-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

alexus mutt [16/09/01 04:16 -0400]:
 whenever i send emails from my box i get . (dot) before my hostname in field
 from
 why didn't it detect properly?

Post your muttrc (the relevant parts at least)

 From: alexus@.evil.n3tw0rk.com

D'you have a misconfigured my_hdr from field?

-suresh



Re: mutt adding . (dot) between @ and my hostname in field from:

2001-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

alexus mutt [17/09/01 01:55 -0400]:
 another thing i dont really want to use muttrc due to i'd have to force
 every users to change/add lines in their muttrc and this is such a pain in
 the butt...

Have a systemwide /etc/Muttrc




Re: Digest handling?

2001-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Miguel Farah F. mutt [19/09/01 10:26 -0400]:
 I'm subscribed to several mailing lists in digest mode. I have this
 nutty notion that mutt has digest capability built-in, but I can't
 find how to handle it. Is there a way to tell mutt to treat a digest
 e-mail as the several separate mails it comprises?

If it's a mime digest press v and take a look ... or else use procmail to
split the digest into its component mails (man procmailex)

--suresh



Re: Bouncing messages from a specific email

2001-09-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Cliff Sarginson mutt [15/09/01 13:53 +0200]:
 I think this should be handled by the MTA.
 I use postfix and have it do a header check for a particular sender
 who keeps sending mail to my domain (usual stuff about earning
 millions)...
 I presume sendmail can do this as well in it's own mysterious way.

Nothing very mysterious about it - and rather well documented in the sendmail
FAQ (or cf/README).  Grep for genericstable.

-suresh




Re: Mutt + PGP

2001-09-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Cliff Sarginson mutt [13/09/01 18:08 +0200]:
  Query: why do people pgp-sign mail to mailing lists?
  Ailbhe
 
 This is an excellent question, since I just accidentally bombarded
 this list with my public key I have been thinking that signing
 mailing list messages serves *no* useful purpose.

There's no damned point to it - unless you anticipate that your mail will be
forged by someone.  Web of trust indeed .. based on a system that mistrusts
everyone, assumes that someone's going to forge your address, in the first
place ;)
  ^^
smiley, in 40 point arial black bold

-suresh



Re: Filtering mail in mailboxes

2001-09-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

petko popadiyski mutt [13/09/01 11:49 -0700]:
  Is there any way in mutt to filter the mail without saving every singal
  message with s key. I wanna something like filter in pine, where after
  opening MUA it sort the messages in differnet folders

Use procmail.
 
-suresh



Re: mutt exchange

2001-09-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Piet Delport mutt [14/09/01 00:40 +0200]:
 Actually, i remember ssmtp running quite well when used mutt on Cygwin
 (i've since moved to FreeBSD, thank Eris).  It can be installed very
 easily via Cygwin's setup.exe, AFAIR, just like mutt.

Speaking of cygwin, is there any way to spool mail locally on the doze box
using a fetchmail variant?

c:/mail/ having several mboxes for example.

-suresh




Re: How to send mail to groups of recipients?

2001-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Erwin Kaiser mutt [12/09/01 10:10 +0200]:
 My question is wether there is a feature in mutt to allow this.

Aliases - better create them in sendmail though.

-suresh



Re: mutt exchange

2001-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Johannes Zellner mutt [12/09/01 12:04 +0200]:
 how do I use mutt with an EXCHANGE server ?
 Actually I can already READ mail by having
 set imap_user=my name
 set imap_pass=my pass

 but if I try to SEND mail, it tells me
 Error 127 .. Exec error.
 
Mutt doesn't have a builtin smtp client of any kind.  See if you can compile
Masqmail / Nullmailer on cygwin (or download Mercury from
http://www.pmail.com) and config that to smarthost through your exchange box
(or if you have a NAT'ted connection to the 'net, use mercury to send direct
to MX)

 If someone has any EXCHANGE related tips, please share them with me!
 (Using mutt / UNIX since quite a while, my job forces me now to
 work on this OS-wannabe).

Poor you :)

-suresh



Re: Operations on tagged messages

2001-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Cliff Sarginson mutt [12/09/01 17:03 +0200]:
 How can I save all tagged messages in one fell swoop ?

;s =folder
; = Apply operation to all tagged messages

 As a corollary to that how can I save a thread in one fell swoop?

Tag the thread

 What operations can I do on messages marked as important, for example
 I may want to mark messages as important that require some action

You can flag them, and use hooks

--suresh



Re: mutt exchange

2001-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Magnus Stenman mutt [13/09/01 03:01 +0200]:
 if you run cygwin (and since mutt now is in cygwin more people will)
 you might not be able to get ssmtp or similar running.

So download a simple mail proxy like Mercury from http://www.pmail.com
For a doze software it works quite well.  Far better than IIS at any rate.

-suresh



Re: Problem with dispalying correct file name and extension in some e -mails

2001-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Mishra, Dipankar mutt [10/09/01 16:27 +0200]:
 I am facing a problem with the mail attachment sent using mutt.
 The file name and the extension gets changed in the recievers mail id.
 Please suggest what changes are to be done in the configuration file.

This should not be happening - and mutt doesn't monkey with extensions /
attachment file names.  What is the other client using?  Some rubbish like
Outlook or Lotus Notes?

-suresh



Re: iconv

2001-09-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

alexus mutt [06/09/01 18:37 -0400]:
 another thing about iconv
 in INSTALL it says go to
 http://clisp.cons.org/~haible/packages-libiconv.html but i get 404 when i go
 to that webpage

Search google for (several) other download locations.

-suresh



Re: *Some* mails in mutt do not display with umlauts

2001-09-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

André Dahlqvist mutt [08/09/01 15:08 +0200]:
 I have however noticed that on some mails, which often seam to have been
 sent though 'iPlanet webmail', mutt displays the umlauts as questionmarks.

iPlanet = netscape messaging server, with a web server, more groupware, etc.
A so-called applications server.  Sucks :(

Broken charsets?

 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


us-ascii doesn't have umlauts and other characters right?

-suresh



Re: mutt and imap help

2001-09-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mutt [05/09/01 11:28 -0400]:
 On Wednesday, 05 September 2001 at 17:04, Matteo Vaccari wrote:
  I have no problems accessing my provider's IMAP server through Mutt.  What
  I'd like is for Mutt to use my provider's SMTP server as well, instead of
  using sendmail on localhost.  Is there something I have overlooked?  I know

http://www.hserus.net/pop_smtp.html (for sendmail, exim and postfix)

 You should take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMAP and SMTP aren't really
 related. But in brief, you can try a) setting envelope_from, and



Re: RMAIL

2001-08-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Jesper Holmberg mutt [30/08/01 12:04 +0200]:
 I accidently started rmail in Emacs. It took my whole spool file, and
 dumped into a file called RMAIL in my home dir. The format looks pretty
 close to mbox, but yet not exactly. There are no from lines, and instead
 it has something similar to this before each message:
 
 http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/rmail-mbox.html 
 
 Now, does anyone know how to transform this back to a regular mbox?

-suresh



Re: can't seem to get folder-hook to work

2001-08-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Anand Buddhdev mutt [27/08/01 16:35 +0200]:
 save-hook . =read
 send-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 folder-hook . 'set sort=date-received record==sent ; my_hdr From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 folder-hook hostmaster 'unmy_hdr from ; my_hdr From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; set record==hostmaster.sent'
 When I read my hostmaster mailbox, the Fcc: is correctly set to
 =hostmaster.sent, but the From: header remains as From: [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Wildass guess: try unmy_hdr From (note the F)

-suresh

 instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And I can't understand why this
 is happening. Am I doing something wrong?



Re: can't seem to get folder-hook to work

2001-08-27 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Anand Buddhdev mutt [27/08/01 16:55 +0200]:
 On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 08:14:09PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 The manual says that the unmy_hdr command is case-insensitive. Anyway, I
 tried it with a capital 'F', and it still didn't work.
 
 Putting the folder hook commands into separate lines works for me ...

folder-hook . set sort=threads
folder-hook . set signature=~/.signature
folder-hook . 'set attribution=%n [%d]:'
folder-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
folder-hook . my_hdr Organization: The International Lumber Cartel of India
folder-hook . my_hdr X-OS: `uname -mnrs`
folder-hook . push \l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\

folder-hook mutt unmy_hdr reply-to
folder-hook mutt 'set attribution=%n mutt [%d]:'

-suresh




Re: Convert from Pine to Mutt, howto

2001-08-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Rune Mossige mutt [23/08/01 09:10 +0200]:
 1) How do I set up mutt to cycle all the mailfolders where I
have procmail store new messages inside? Pine had an
'incoming-folders' setting, where I set the folder names,
and the order to look in them. How do I do that in mutt?

mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*`

 2) When I do 'c' to change folder, is it possible to get a
selection box, where I can scroll with the cursor, and select
a folder by hitting return, instead of typing in the name
of the folder I want to change to?
 
Hit tab once or twice.

 3) How do I set up a distributionlist using mutt's aliases?
 
That's for sendmail's /etc/aliases, ideally.  Or just separate the addresses
with commas.

 4) When I have marked several messages for deletion, and scroll
the index of messages, the cursor jumps over the messages
marked for deleting. This is fine, but sometimes I do not
want this...I want to scroll to a deleted message, and then
undelete it. How do I do that? Do I have to 'jump' to that
message number?
 
j and k for moving up and down non deleted messages.  To move across deleted
messages J and K (capitals)

 5) How do I 'expunge' all messages marked for deletion, similar
to pine's 'eXpunge' command? I do not want to have to quit
mutt, or change to a new folder, just to expunge a number
of messages.
 
$ (synchronize mailbox)

 6) How do I make mutt display norwegian characters? I have set
set charset=iso-8859-1
set allow_8bit=yes

Use the LC_CTYPE environment variable most appropriate to your setting.

-suresh



Re: Convert from Pine to Mutt, howto

2001-08-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Rune Mossige mutt [23/08/01 09:10 +0200]:
 I have been using Pine for the last 6-8 years, and have come to
 be used to the way Pine works.
 
 I think Sven Guckes and Robin Socha have quite good howtos at
 http://www.socha.net re pine - mutt conversion.

-suresh



Re: GPG / PGP verification problem

2001-08-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Ailbhe Leamy mutt [23/08/01 18:24 +0100]:
 # apt-get install mutt
 Reading Package Lists... Done

cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel
make install clean

Less than ten minutes on my (extremely thin) pipe to the 'net

hth
--suresh

[yes, you have to switch to freebsd, but that's a minor detail g]

 



Re: Hide folder internal data message?

2001-08-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Daniel Åborg mutt [22/08/01 14:18 +0200]:
 Thanks for the reply.
 It's not mutt which creates the message, it's fetchmail. I want the

Fetchmail won't create the file by itself.  Likely, wherever you are popping
your mail from uses ipop3d / uw-imapd.

 message to be there and mutt /not to show/ the file when it reads the
 mailbox.  :-)

folder-hook . push \l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\

-suresh



Re: Address Book

2001-08-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

steve mutt [22/08/01 15:25 -0400]:
 I'm a recent convert from pine. One thing I can't find any documentation
 on so far,[I've read the man page for mutt and the web FAQ so far] is
 how to use an address book with mutt. Otherwise everything is fine in
 respect to this great mua.
 
 http://abook.sourceforge.net

-suresh



Re: selective message deletion

2001-08-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Brian McNeill mutt [22/08/01 17:07 -0400]:
 Being a new user of mutt to pick up mail from my isp's POP server, I'm
 wondering if mutt can be configured to leave read messages on the POP
 machine while deleting those mostly spam pieces one deletes without even

Use fetchmail for this.  http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail

-suresh



Re: procmail

2001-08-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Eugene Lee mutt [20/08/01 00:49 -0700]:
 If your MTA is not configured to use Procmail, or it's configured to
 ignore ~/.forward (or any other user-maintained config file), you're
 pretty much stuck.  If your admin is physically accessible, try bribing
 the person with food.
 
 ITYM Beer.

-suresh



Re: mutt'f from address

2001-08-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Harry Long mutt [20/08/01 10:15 -0600]:
 Would you please tell me how I can  the 'From' address in mutt ? 
 Any thing like in Mail::Sendmail  'From = ...  ?
 
 my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry Long)
 set envelope_from

-suresh



Re: procmail

2001-08-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Ken Weingold mutt [19/08/01 05:22 -0400]:
 One thing, too.  It is possible that the MTA on your server is
 ignoring procmail.  I had this issue once on a shell account I got.
 they use dmail, and it did just this.  I don't have root there, and
 the admin is impossible to get hold of, so I gave up.  Just a thought.
 
 A .forward file in your homedir should have solved that?

-suresh



Re: recompile for updated ncurses?

2001-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Ken Weingold mutt [18/08/01 03:06 -0400]:
 I built mutt with ncurses 5.0, and just updated ncurses to 5.2.  Any
 reason to recompile mutt?
 
 Reason?  See if something breaks - if so recompile (nothing should, ideally)

-suresh



Re: procmail

2001-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Azzazel mutt [18/08/01 20:26 +0200]:
 Does anybody use procmail for sorting incoming mail? 

Several of us do.

 proc won't sort messages (I've tired test explained on faq page).
 Or, maybe I shell use fetchmail for receiving messagess?
 Please help, I'm a complete beginer, not only in mutt but also in
 Linux (: 
 
http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html - and the procmail FAQ at
http://www.iki.fi/~era/procmail (or just man procmailex at the shell
prompt) should help you.

-suresh



Re: mailboxes and new mail notification

2001-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Mark Hill mutt [19/08/01 01:59 +0100]:
 #mailboxes
 mailboxes !
 mailboxes =blackbox

Try 

mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/*`

-suresh



Re: procmail

2001-08-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Joel Hammer mutt [18/08/01 21:50 -0400]:
 Now, I forget just how you make your mail agent honor the .forward file. That

Your MTA you mean?  See, if you run sendmail on linux, there's no need to
have a .forward, as sendmail uses procmail as the LDA (local delivery agent).

Then the usual reason why .forward is ignored is unsafe permissions on your
homedir or your .forward / .procmailrc (should not be group-writeable).

Check your mailserver logs.

-suresh




Re: mutt porting to Max OS-X ?

2001-08-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Aaron Schrab mutt [17/08/01 01:58 -0500]:
 The main problem with the normal sendmail config on there is that
 sendmail doesn't like some of the permissions.  This can be fixed by
 adding with the following line in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf:
 O DontBlameSendmail=GroupWritableDirPathSafe
 
 So it's true that / is world writeable in OSX?  Ouch.
 
 That will at least allow it to send some mail.  I haven't yet had a need
 for it to send any messages other than ones that various cron jobs send
 to me.  More config work may be required for more general use.

 A chmod or two (and avoiding the use of HFS - which might break compatiblity
 with older Mac OSen) might be a great idea before compiling any *nix stuff -
 esp sendmail - on OS X.
 
-suresh




Re: mutt porting to Max OS-X ?

2001-08-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Chris Wong mutt [17/08/01 00:08 -0700]:
 This might be slightly off topic, but is there any way to make mutt
 send  mail to an SMTP host directly like pine?  If not, how do I make
 sendmail use a particular smtp host?
 
 This has been answered quite often.  Mutt will always use an external smtp
 agent (even a lightweight submitter program like masqmail / nullmailer).

 If you want sendmail to use a smarthost check out
 http://www.hserus.net/sendmail.html

-suresh




Re: mutt porting to Max OS-X ?

2001-08-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Aaron Schrab mutt [17/08/01 03:05 -0500]:
 As has already been pointed out it's only group writeable.  I don't

Bad enough :)

 Older versions of Mac OS only support HFS, so they won't work with UFS
 at all.  And from what I hear some programs even have trouble running in
 OS X on UFS.  As for the chmod part, I also hear that various system
 updates will reset the permissions on / .
 
 If you don't mind not being able to run old MacOS binaries, and are careful
 with your system updates and ...

 Urgh.  I guess I'll stick with whatever apple packages on OS X (or wait for
 OS XI or OS XII).

-suresh




Re: mutt porting to Max OS-X ?

2001-08-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Chris Wong mutt [16/08/01 19:03 -0700]:
 I compile mutt on Mac OS X myself and there is also a fink package for
 it.  The only problem is sendmail doesn't work out of the box, so I am
 trying to figure out how set it up on Mac OS X, if anyone of you know
 how to do that, please shoot me an email.
 
 There's some fairly good documentation at http://www.sendmail.org and in the
 comp.mail.sendmail archives for this.

-suresh



Re: Batch mailing?

2001-08-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Carl B . Constantine mutt [16/08/01 15:05 -0700]:
 Is it possible to do batch emailing in mutt? Here's the scenario. I want
 to send the same messsage to a bunch of different people, but they have
 to go as individual messages (one to each user). I can't put all the
 users in the to: due to privacy issues.
 
 A mailmerge script (simple foreach reading from a text file) using mutt in
 command line mode (or better, just sendmail -fyou -t $i) should do the
 trick.

-suresh



Re: SMTP AUTH-capable MTA

2001-08-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Nate Johnston [mutt-users] 13/08/01 07:28 -0500: 
 This is a multi-user system and I do not have superuser priveliges.  My
 impression is that compiling and installing a home-directory local copy
 of sendmail is an exercise best avoided if possible.
 
 Then you are better off with Masqmail / Nullmailer

-- 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
Carmel, New York, has an ordinance forbidding men to wear coats and
trousers that don't match.



Re: Mutt

2001-08-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Noesis [mutt-users] 13/08/01 08:37 -0500: 
 I added set envelope_from in your .muttrc and it works perfectly.  Even
 before messing with sendmail?!  I don't even know where I added my smtp
 server!?  How can this be?
 
 Mutt uses your local sendmail.

 Looks like this is my last question regarding this topic, thanks for all
 your help!
 
 Again, try http://www.hserus.net/sendmail.html if you want to fiddle with
 sendmail :)

-suresh
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The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the
`social sciences' is: some do, some don't.
-- Ernest Rutherford



Re: trouble with mailboxes

2001-08-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mutt-users] 13/08/01 23:14 +0200: 
 BTW, my rc.conf for the sendmail daemon reads (this is a BSD
 system):
 sendmail_flags=-bd -q30m
 I recall reading somewhere that passing the -bd flag to sendmail and

This runs sendmail in daemon mode

 then passing the -d flag to formail/procmail is a redundancy.

procmail -d - totally different.  Quoting from man procmail ...

: -d recipient ...
: This  turns  on explicit delivery mode, delivery will be to the local user
: recipient.   This,  of  course, only  is possible if procmail has root
: privileges (or if procmail is already running with  the  recipient's euid and
: egid).  Procmail will setuid to the intended recipients and  delivers  the
: mail  as  if  it  were invoked  by  the recipient with no arguments (i.e. if
: no rcfile is found, delivery is like ordinary  mail).  This option is
: incompatible with -p.

 line on .fetchmailrc the headers get fscked up.
 
 Turn on verbose logging in your .procmailrc

-- 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
VYARZERZOMANIMORORSEZASSEZANSERAREORSES?



Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.

2001-08-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Louis LeBlanc [mutt-users] 07/08/01 18:56 -0400: 
 I REALLY don't care to start running my own nntp service, especially
 I'm the only one on my machine that would be using it.  Sure, I could
 extend the expiration if I wanted, but . . .
 
 I'd suggest using slrnpull + slrn then.

-suresh

-- 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
People who have what they want are very fond of telling people who
haven't what they want that they don't want it.
-- Ogden Nash



Re: Lost mails - Help!

2001-08-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Andy Spiegl wrote:
  Your MTA settings are screwed in some manner -
 Hm, but they work as mailserver for a large company network...
 
 In which case mutt is not calling sendmail properly

  or mutt is not injecting mail
  properly into the mta (set sendmail=[whatever])
 I don't use this setting.  Maybe I should?  Like this:
  set sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t  
 
 Does /usr/lib/sendmail exist _and_ point to the right sendmail binary?

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - tinlcI
EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin



Re: Can't use the L to replay to a list

2001-08-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Dan Christensen [mutt-users] 06/08/01 20:39 +0200: 
 Well thanks for stering my in the way,
 what is the right number to use in
 Line_wrap i have foundt the way to set
 the textwidth in .vimrc 
 
 Keep it to 72 or so.

-- 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis



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