post sortieren mit ifile
there's a nice utility named ifile, which uses word-frequencies to sort messages into folders. ifile itself is very generic: it has no file- locking interface and therefore can't be used directly. it would be nice to use it with mutt. one can pipe a message into it and tell it where it belongs, and later similiar messages can be piped into ifile asking it where to put them: it learns by (complex) example. now, ifile returns a sorted list of foldernames if invoked with the query option, lines with a foldername first followed by a real number denoting "tstistical relevance" or whatever one should call it. what would be the best way to take ifiles output and "program" the folder name to be used for a save-operation? it's very easy to get at the first word of the first line, that's one line of sh(1), but this result would have to be the argument of the 's'ave! clemens
Re: Qmail isn't delivering to MAILDIR/new....?
Jason Helfman: I have this as my .qmail file: /home/deklown/Maildir/new/ the maildir is an object of it's own, and it's structure is taken care of by the software. leave out that fg new/! clemens
Re: Qmail and Mutt
Jason Helfman: I just installed Qmail last night and broke my Procmail, but I thought I had fixed it with setting up where Promail writes to... had the exact same probs, also procmail complaining about every write(2). but i needed email badly and dropped procmail until i regain the special nerve for it. Here is what I believe I have to do when I get home. 1 In .procmailrc set DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ do the receipes change??? the recipes? no. ~/.qmail: | preline -f /usr/local/bin/procmail ok. ~/.qmail-mailbox-mutt ./Maildir/new/mutt/ this i do not even understand. 4 In mutt:set check_new=yes set mailbox_type=Maildir you don't *have* to do this, unless you wants to create maildirs per default. i had a working outfit with an incoming maildir and mailboxes for safekeeping. until i configured the exact same stuff for my new machine using brandnew versions of the software. but i did not have to be admitted to the looney bin, because they were so understanding... clemens
Re: Why use set hostname?
Gottipati Aravind: and that works just fine. My question now is whats the purpose of that hostname variable if it does not work? am I doing it wrong or do I need to set some other variable too.. to get it to work? whether you can forge your "from:" line or not depends on the mta. sendmail set the standards for many years in that only administrators were allowed to user that option. so you should check your transport agent. clemens
Re: End key doesn't work?
Sam Xie: read a mail, push the End key, an error message says, "keys not bound. Press '?' for help." this happened to me when switching over from command- line to x11 on a new computer. try ^V End in the shell command- line, it tells you what key- sequence gets emmitted. control-V is for "verbose", it can also be used in vi to input control keys, escapes etc. into macro- definitions, where they must not be expanded until actual use. example from my mutt/.xkeys: the following line binds F1 to display documentation: macro pager \e[11~ "shell-escapeless /usr/local/share/mutt/manual.txt\n"\ "documentation" likewise, if one wants to update .muttrc with F2: macro pager \e[12~ "shell-escapevi ~/.muttrc\n" "edit configuration" i got the keysequence to use from the bash- commandline: "^V ^[[11~" was the answer to ^VF1, where ^[ is the control- code for escape. the proper command might look something like: bind pager \e[11~ end-line but please consult documentation first, or simply use "?" to find out about the end-line function. clemens
Re: problems with 1.2.2i
Mike Markowski: Notice that I now must put *two* slashes after "~mm". With only a single slash, I get this: how in the world did you find out? i would never have had the idea to try to put two slashes in there! now tell us: what made you do this? not the marsians again clemens
Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes
Dennis Robertson proclaimed on mutt-users that: Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is not a mailbox, even though I can see that procmail has delivered to them. I have read the manual at 3.11 and am none the wiser. call "procmail -f-" to have it make the from-lines that designate a mailbox. clemens
Re: Message attributes, MH folders
Gerhard den Hollander wrote: * clemensF [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:49:56PM +0200) Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your files on a network? Actually, I think the problem is due to the huge number of files in your subdirs .. depending on the OS (w/ Linux I think the turn around point is between 1000 and 2000 entries per dir) soo many files in your directory makes all directory access slower .. sticking all files in a big folder will improve speed .. a lot of small files in a dir vs a big file containing a lot of small messages shows that the big file is faster (this is at least partly due to the fact that the caching helps ..) well, i',m on the verge of converting to [nx]mh. but i stick to the rules, i.e. i will answer each message to me in due time, so i can't keep n*1000 messages, a few dozen are the utmost horror to me. so, why in the world would one want to leave mh for mutt? clemens
Re: GPG and mutt
Nils Vogels wrote:
I'm using gpg 1.0.0 with mutt to handle my PGP ... but for some reason I keep on
getting "key not found" messages .. I dont think noone has their keys on keyservers
nowadays, so I
must be doing something wrong ..
you probably need the rsa/idea extensions. search the contrib
directories and follow the instructions in the lone {idea,rsa}.c files
you'll find. these extensions are compiles as position independant code
and loaded as dynamic libraries. you add load-extension {idea, rsa} to
~/.gnupg/options and you're set. oh, watch gpg --version afterwards!
better than ice-cream, close to beeing an astronaut!
clemens
Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: send-hook '~t linux-bruxelles' set editor="vi +set textwidth=72" what about set editor="vi \"+set textwidth=72\""? clemens
Re: Message attributes, MH folders
Brett Coon: 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of messages, which undoubtedly is at least part of the problem. Would it be faster if I stored messages in mbox format? Is there anything else I can do to speed it up other than deleting all my old email? try to convert to maildir format. it resembles mh in that every message is kept in a single file in directories (folders), but there is no seq-uence file. please feedback on results. 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as "answer within 1 week", "delete after 2 weeks", etc, and i've searched for this feature for ages. mutt has only the attributes you described, but maybe with the aid of hooks and external applications... currently i have a special folder called "termine" (dates in german), which receives messages i should check frequently. i forget them there with a good conscience. suggestions? Is there currently support in Mutt for annotating messages, or storing a separate message attribute database? i wonder: would this feature not be more easily implemented in a mail-shell like mh/exmh? clemens
Re: test=RunningX
Gary Johnson: ...so it can be tested if an X-server is running. What is this program RunningX ? Is it an utility that comes with X (it is not on my you might consider just using standard "/usr/bin/test -n $DISPLAY". no need for special programs, if you test the existence of the x- variable used to indicate, well, the display to use. clemens
Re: Message attributes, MH folders
Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your files on a network? clemens
Re: procmail question
Virginie [ ML ]: defaults mda "formail -ds procmail" one can save one exec and much complexity using: mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -t -f-" clemens
Re: test=RunningX
Mrinal Kalakrishnan: No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will fail, because it actually tries to open the display. Whereas the $DISPLAY variable still exists, so "test -n $DISPLAY" test passes. So if you're in a console, while X is running, then it'll try to load netscape! that's good to know alright. did the original poster mention this test to be applied to "netscape -remote (URL)" or something suchlike? how does that work? clemens
Re: test=RunningX
Mrinal Kalakrishnan: No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will fail, because it actually tries to open the display. Whereas the $DISPLAY variable still exists, so "test -n isn't there some other way (a unix way) for trying to open the x- display? is one of the standard /dev/* devices associated with an x- display? clemens
Re: Location of mutt manual
John Poltorak: Where do users normally install the html version of mutt's manual? usually /usr/local/share/doc/mutt/ clemens
Re: help!
Dirk Ruediger: This tags your mail and you can store it somewhere. The latter task can be better done with fetchmail/procmail! btw: for a leafnode this combination is not the worst one can have, right? i don't have a static-ip, and this is really just the basic leaf of the tree, and to me the combo fetchmail/procmail on the receiving side and qmail as sender seems to be optimum (at the time beeing, that is). should the family grow suddenly, i can always shift towards qmail. the rest of my environment is brightmail.com, where i try to outsource spam-protection, a few filter-rules at gmx (you never know, do ya) and my trusty analog modem line. which will turn into isdn flatrate as soon as the big bears sort out the rates. how do you guys'n'gals do it? clemens
Re: help!
Suresh Ramasubramanian: polling [EMAIL PROTECTED] is slow, to say the least. Brightmail pops mails from gmx (not the fastest available pop server), then filters it, then you pop mail from brightmail ... that's correct, but primary concern is to keep spam away from my machine, so there's no alternative. Take a look at http://www.spambouncer.org - extensive procmail :) i have, as a matter of fact, but, see above. You might also want to take a quick look at http://www.pcquest.com/june00/linux_spam.asp if you want to do a little more filtering (yeah, old hat I know - but please, I'd love your opinion on this article - you see, I wrote it) ;) sir! i am free (bsd, that is). May I suggest cable instead of ISDN? yes you may. now who's got the facts, is it true that one shares bandwith with the gang in the same street, because cables are shared? Go climb a gravity well! fall into it! clemens
Re: news with mutt
anyone ever tried to exploit the coarse resemblance between imap and the classic structure in spool/news? clemens
Re: HELP: How do I change my from address format?
Suresh Ramasubramanian: Can y'all help me? Rather silly of me, I know - but I sort of prefer the second format :) which is deprecated. clemens
Re: changing to mailboxes
Gottipati Aravind: I use fetchmail to get the mail and Procmail to deliver it. so I dont same here. all mailing happens on local, i.e. non-nfs filesystems. actually works. i.e it gives me the name of the next folder like "=fslc" or something like that, that has new mail, but in most cases it does not i have this in my .muttrc: set spoolfile="$HOME/mail/IN/" mailboxes ! "/var/qmail/alias/Maildir/" "/tmp/dubletten" "/tmp/spam" ... and whenever i type 'c', it reliably tells me the next of these folders containing new mail. i have my timeouts set to one minute, so after one minute idleing and on any status-changing command, it beeps and tells me where to find new mail. no mistakes, works always (version 1.0.1). other mailing list folders where there is new mail. I have xbiff, but I i don't use biff or xbiff, don't have to. i'd like to know where our setups differ. is it nfs? clemens
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone use mutt with local sendmail, where the local sendmail is configured to forward all mail to a central hub? yes. If so could I have a look at your sendmail.cf or relevant m4 file? i'd rather not. before i switched to qmail, some (hopefully relevant) part of it looked like: DSsmtp:mail.germanynet.de the smtp: protocol-designator was vital. my system didn't work right before it was in there. clemens
Re: Mutt/Procmail/Fetchmail question
Timothy Grant: However, when I start mutt I get an error telling me that /var/spool/mail/tjg is not a mailbox. set logfile /var/log/fetchmail set daemon 77177 defaults fetchall mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -t -f-" ... will make "from " headers needed by mbox-format. clemens
Re: changing to mailboxes
Gottipati Aravind: set folder=~/mail mailboxes ! `echo $folder/*` did you really check out typing in some names manually? source ~/.addressesmutt clemens
Re: ~/.muttrc not working after upgrade mutt to v1.2
Nils Vogels: Does anyone know the default settings for FreeBSD 5.0 ? didn't even know of a 5.0 current. but my brother's name's also ni[e]ls. he opts for e, though. clemens
Re: How to discern underlying threads
Yip Weng: Some newbie rattle: I just migrated from Win2000 to Linux, and am using Mutt as substitute for my erstwhile mailer Forte Agent 1.8, to which threading is also a feature. I have found mutt to be outrageously flexible and powerful, and the text based screen is so much better for my eyes (really!) on behalf of the mutt defel team, to which i don't belong, i take with dignity what is natural for us. clemens
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
CaT: Local filesystem for all mailboxes. and erm.. disjunct? sorry, i could not find the word and threw in what came up. i mean, can you guarante that no links, chrooted environments or whatever make different mailboxes undifferent, i.e. the same file? -- clemens
Re: Procmail vs. Mutt variables
Mikko Hänninen: Actually, you could embed `mkdir -p dirname` in any command -- it gets expanded but the result is an empty string. However the command does run. :-) whowherewhat? where are commands like this allowed like this? -- clemens
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
are you using several mutt windows in a gui or mbox formatted mailboxes without locked access? -- clemens
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
Thomas Roessler: than maildir for large mailboxes. Just imagine a rather traditional Unix file system design having to deal with 7k5 files in _one_ directory... this might trouble the traditional linux (linear search) fs. -- clemens
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
CaT: I'm using several mutts but they're all on a different mailbox. mailboxes accessed by some nfs? really every mailbox disjunct? -- clemens
Re: how to change the default encoding method?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: As i have "unset allow_8bit" in /etc/Muttrc, the mails i send are always encoded as "quoted-printable"! Can i change it to "base64"? if you change the mime-type to one transfer-encoded using base64, but you'd loose the convenient "email-feeling". -- clemens
Re: sending mail with POP
Hardy Merrill: Mail that I'm sending doesn't seem to get out - I think it's sitting in my "outbox". What more do I need to do? put ":your-isp's-smtp-(mail)-server-name" into control/smtproutes, if you use the standard setup, that should get rid of your mail. -- clemens
Re: sending mail with POP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: First, you have to set your "smart host" in /etc/sendmail.cf So, put a line of this kind (in /etc/sendmail.cf) : # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DSsmtp.worldonline.fr yes, this is vital. i had this configured for ages until i found out that the protocol designator was missing as well, i had to say: DSsmtp:smtp.worldonline.fr to get it right. But that's not all. As you have a dialup workstation, each time you connect to your ISP, your IP address will change. So, you have to tell Sendmail you official domain name. In order to give a correct domain name, you have to know your ip address. The trick is that each time you connect to your ISP, your dialing deamon will restart sendmail with a correct domain name. i don't agree. would it not be better to masquerade, i.e. not to define the hostname given by the isp, but instead to pretend to be a local user@isp? masquerading also avoids problems arising from reverse dns lookups, when the given hostname turns out to be different when looked up by ip-number. masquerading is a feature easily configured into the sendmail.cf using the m4 macro processor. templates are usually included in the distribution, and the topic is defined and discussed in numerous archived messages and faqs. it can also be configured manually, email me for info. -- clemens
Re: Reply-to-all function?
Chris Woodfield: It seems mutt's default behavior when replying to a message is to only put the sender in the To: header. Is there a way to add Cc: recipients as well? the group-reply, documented in the manual and in the quickref screen launched by '?', is commonly bound to 'g'. just check out lower g when you would 'r'eply or post to a 'L'ist. -- clemens
Re: x-mailer header
Andreas Wessel: What´s it with these "X"-headers anyway? Does there have to be an X before any self entered header? RFC? the common use for it these days is to includer user-info in the headers (e.g. my pgp-key#). they coexist peacefully with the rfc822 headers until religion claims it's toll. only thing is: they are not too well defined, naturally, so i can't just grep for them, unless i know how a particular user/company/organization use them. -- clemens
Re: f1 mutt help
G.Embery: I haven't been able to get function keys to work at all with s-lang lib but they are quite okay with [n]curses lib. Here is what i get for the 2 cases: s-lang: color ok; function-keys not-ok; "grey" keys got-working; ncurses: color none; function-keys ok; "grey" keys mostly-not-ok; could this have to do more with X than slang/curses? i've never had any problems using either, and i don't run X. i'd be interested in the environment in general. as i said, no probs with either slang or curses on freebsd 2.8.8 without X. -- Valerian Q. Farthingsworthe-Jones III
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
David Champion: Maybe the original poster (I forgot who...) would be OK with "unbind * *" and "unmacro * *". and, finalizing this thread, should this not be the default content of the default fallback etc/Muttrc? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is the mailing list broken or is it just me?
Timothy Ball: I haven't gotten any mail from the mailing list in weeks now... I am I unsubscribed or what? i've been unsubbed for bounces. had to resubscribe. happens often these days. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
David DeSimone: Mikko Hänninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's good as an option, but then the problem would be that you can't have an independent stand-alone binary that works even with no resource files... Is this really one of the design goals of Mutt? I don't see a problem as long as one can redefine anything compiled into the source, it's the best way to go. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using multiple mailboxes with Mutt ( procmail filtering).
Tom Gilbert: Not entirely what you're after here, but may be of use to you... I find the default folder navigation painful too, so I wrote some cursor-key navigation macros to make life better. Try these out? bind pager up previous-line bind pager down next-line up, down, and-so-on... dear mr. gilbert sir, we took the liberty of doing as advised. .--. .^. | Tom Gilbert, England | http://www.linuxbrit.co.uk| /V\ |--| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\| Sites I recommend: `---| /( )\ | www.freshmeat.net www.enlightenment.org slashdot.org | ^^-^^` vim: set tw=72: -' also stored your signature in our =ascii-art. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: threading problem
Michael Tatge: So, to get the threading in the way to want it just set the Date: header of that message to a reasonable value and you'll be fine. that's cool! whenever you suspect something's fishy, you just wade thru your email to check the sequence of dates? or did you already write the program for that? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting and undeleting
Manuel Arriaga: allows me to reach any message (del/undel). But in my computer j and k jump messages marked for deletion. he specifically told you to use capital letters, which work. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: threading problem
Mikko Hänninen: PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\RUN;C:\WINDOWS\CRASH you got your path all wrong. with windows it =must= look like this: PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\CRASH;C:\WINDOWS\RUN -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using multiple mailboxes with Mutt ( procmail filtering).
Mikko Hänninen: Jacob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 23 May 2000: I think I could accomplish this with a wrapper that monitors all my mailboxes for new mail and display that on a menu, pushing me into mutt on that mailbox when I select one, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel (even though I didn't see anything like this out there). This sounds like a reasonable solution, and is probably better than implementing something like this in Mutt. (Although it could be argued that something like this would be good to have in Mutt -- *separate* i have the url not handy, but there is dialog(1) from freebsd's standard distribution and iselect(1) for putting up menues inside scripts, so the task would have to be split into find(1)ing the mailboxes to show, display them and finally munge the users choice. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: metoo not removing my address
Corey G.: I would be more than happy to write a better explanation if someone really wants me to for the documentation. I only want to make Mutt better like everyone else. sounds great! i vote ``yes'' both for the effort and the offer. thanks Corey! -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Success! Do you know which MUA I am using for sending this email??
Charles Curley: Now, if you run X, look at fetchmailconf. Get your configuration into .fetchmailrc, which will save you a lot of typing and is less error prone. even without python, the language fetchmailconf is written in, the text was enlightening as to making a .fetchmailrc. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-mailer header
Suresh Ramasubramanian: :) ... but is there any hassle about X-Mailer: remaining in your mail? I haven't yet seen an RFC raising any objection to X-Foo: headers yet :) it's no rfc matter, it's personal taste. If you don't like to see it you can always set ignore X-Mailer :) but i want to drop the x-mailer inserted into =my= messages. and so i did, by recompiling the sources with just one little line changed. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: absolute newbie...
Emily Slocombe: I got a bizarre error from trying to do a reply to all to you and the mutt user group. The message follows: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 21 15:18:32 2000 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] me too. same error message. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: absolute newbie...
Manuel Arriaga: Anyway, I would like to know whether it is possible to have mutt display any new messages that fetchmail retrieved automatically since mutt was yes. read the manual. you can specify the intervals for mutt to look for new mail. also, whenever you say '$' to resynchronize, new mess will appear. message has been put on the queue; but is it possible to have the mail dispatched once put in the queue, i.e., before I exit mutt? send an alarm signal to the qmail-send process: it will immediately work the queue. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
x-mailer header
my messages carry a "x-mailer: mutt" header that i'd like to get rid of. how do i do that? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
Zhendong: folders. After I've changed the mutt folders to gz format, procmail still delivers mails as uncompressed format, they can not work well together. then run the mails through gzip. the line "| gzip folder" will append compressed data to the folder. this has nothing to do with mutt. furthermore, the attitude behind the statement "...they can not work well together" drives me up the wall. do you really silently expect any program to foresee every users needs and integrate all possible solutions? this is the opposite of unix thinking, where a number of independant little programs to their speciality bound into a framework by a smart and small operating system, which operates the same way. your statement reveals micro$oft thinking: give the users one big babel tower, and if they can't get their tasks done with it, it cannot be done at all! gzip does not even have to uncompress the target file to append new data, it handles compressed data streams well. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Interesting From: header problem
Mikko Hänninen: I guess what I'm basically looking for is a reply-hook. Something that I can use to change things based on the message I'm replying to. Does anything like that exist? Nope, sorry. There's been talk of ways to solve this, and I think even the best way has been figured out (creating a pseudo-operator which tells that the next pattern operator should match against the headers of the replied-to message, not the current message, which could then be used in send-hooks). It's just that nobody's done it yet. there's always the possibility to pipe the mess thru some external program, either in the editor or perhaps with some construct involving ":source program |". -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
Roland Rosenfeld: | gzip folder BUT DON'T DO THIS, if you do not want to loose mail! IIRC, there is no mechanism to merge changes in the compressed folder into the temporary uncompressed folder, so if you have a compressed folder open for reading, while a new mail arrives and is appended to this compressed folder, it will never been shown, but simply overwritten, when leaving the compressed folder with mutt. I suggest to use compressed folders only for archive folders but not for incoming folders. an exception might be allowed if the folder is protected by a lock. but when looking at the details, updating a compressed folder while it's uncompressed temporary image is open for reading will not damage anything. but when the folder isn't locked and =updated= by the viewer when mail is appended at the same time, things might well go wrong. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-mailer header
Reinhard Foerster: On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 10:39:21AM +0200, clemensF wrote: my messages carry a "x-mailer: mutt" header that i'd like to get rid of. how do i do that? unset user_agent (mutt 1.2 only) oh no, nono, please, there =has= to be a way! please, save me! do i have to set sendmail='/local/bin/mutt-go-away | sendmail'? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: x-mailer header
Suresh Ramasubramanian: unset user_agent (mutt 1.2 only) +That+ will get rid of the User-Agent: Mutt 1.2i. I doubt if it will get rid of the X-Mailer tag (which is not generated by newer mutts anyway). i think you repeat exactly what he said, and i'm not really sure if i am grateful for it. anyways, folks, i will undertake the task of pipapatching mutt away from mutt! -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x-mailer header
David T-G: I'd try something like my_hdr X-Mailer: "" no go. recompiled the whole s**t. bet'ya can't see no heada! -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
Suresh Ramasubramanian: heresy Sounds a lot like emacs thinking to me :) g,dr you, youDANGEROUS PERSON!
Re: Interesting From: header problem
Mikko Hänninen: Well, I guess you could do a script that reads the message-to-be-replied to, writes a template reply email out to a file, and then this could be used with the resend-message (or edit-postponed) in Mutt as a basis of the new email... It would work, but you'd be taking all the intelligence with regards to lists and send-hooks and all that outside of Mutt. And it would be quite a bit of work, probably, to do such a script. ...which might be worth it if we find a general principal behind the problem which lets us use the solution in more than just this case. sorry, but my imagination fails me on this one, i just thought this thread might need a turn. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
David Champion (Thu 18.0500-00:47): So, on a related note: are there any other NNTP patches for mutt, besides Brandon Long's 0.95 version? I'd imagine that they'll never i never heard of this nntp patch. would you please give a pointer? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
Larry P. Schrof: When I hit 'k' or 'j' in the index, it gives me a "Key is not bound." error. Yet, when I go to the binding listing screen (by hitting '?'), 'j' and 'k' show up in the generic bindings section as bound to the functions I assigned. think about it over a nice cup of hot chocolate. this is exactly how it is supposed to work. you specified no operation for j and k in the index, so they count as unbound. if you change into another menu of keybindings, they show up with their generic keybinding, if nothing special is defined. It'd be nice if I didn't have to do a 'noop' for the same key multiple times (for the reoccuring menu-specific bindings) , just so that my generic binding can apply to those menus. It kind of defeats the purpose of generic bindings in my opinion. I can't reliably set up a you have understood the concept very well. leave out those noops, define generic bindings as defaults, specials for your specific requirements, and you are set. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
Bennett Todd (Tue 16.0500-17:23): Ok, I've gotten so hooked on mutt that I'm wanting to use it for netnews. did you have a look at leafnode? it's a small nntp-handler without newsreader. i'm thinking about adapting mutt towards using leafnode to swatt that fly... -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
Jan Houtsma (Wed 17.0500-22:12): 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. what happens if you put "exec " in front of "rlogin"? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Possible index bug in 1.2...
Ben Beuchler (Wed 17.0500-21:29): Hmmm... I'm using Eterm with a setting of 'xterm-color'. Pretty standard stuff. What made me consider mutt as a possible culprit as opposed to my terminal emulation is that it only happened when I was browsing my 'read mail' box which contained 9000+ messages. Other mailboxes with far fewer messages were unaffected. And since the terminal only sees one screenful of messages at a time, it seemed to be exonerated. aha! linux is the one (it's always the butler, isn't it?). the ext2fs tries to go thru the mail one last time as directed by mutt, and since 9000+ directory entries are visited with no sorting or any help at all: this takes some time and makes people use freebsd, like me! but seriously: does this "insane" state go away with lots of time by itself? if yes, it could well be the filesystem, or... not? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait
Re: Mutt and GPG
Graham Lillico (Tue 16.0500-08:46): [deleted] email sent from mutt using gpg to sign it then I get the above message and then shortly followed by "PGP signature successfully verified." why don't I get this from messages sent and signed using pine? Does this mean it can't verify the GPG signature? mutt uses MIME to package message and signature, where both are separate blocks in the same email. pine just pipes the message through gpg to have it signed and you get the email in one chunk. in this latter case i use a little script and handfeed it the message by way of a pipe. here's the meat: #!/bin/es echo $PGPPASS |[1=5] gpg --passphrase-fd 5 $* invoked by '|lgpg'. it works when the mess is just signed and also when it is both encrypted to me and signed by the author. es() is some smart little shell. if my brains's mechanics don't fail me, the sh() translation should read: #!/bin/sh echo $PGPPASS 5 | gpg --passphrase-fd 5 $* i risk putting my passphrase into $PGPPASS of the environment only because i got my pitbull 'hate' trained to bite me every 15 minutes to remind me. if you have a turtle or a rabbit, the training will need time, but with your passphrase in memory, who cares? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: bind pager Q query
Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-05:31): What're you trying to do? More specifically, what do you want to happen when Q is pressed in the pager? isnt query bound in the sense of external-query? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: mailbox sort order
Dave Ewart (Mon 15.0500-14:36): If you've pasted those lines straight from your .muttrc, then I can see the problem: you need to use "-", not "_" in "reverse-date-received". you see, a mechanic could get fired for _- 0.5 ! -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
Chris Green (Mon 15.0500-15:39): Is there any way to delete IMAP folders (as opposed to mailboxes) using mutt? if you enjoy the neccessary priviledges on the place hosting your imap-folders, it should work, n'est-ce-pas? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Mutt and address books
Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:58): be integrated with Mutt with the external-query command in any address excuse me: whats the name of "the external-query command"? query gives errors (in 1.0.1). -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail within a week. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
Chris Green (Mon 15.0500-18:29): Well I should do, the IMAP server is running as a user process, all the files are in my user area and all the files are owned and writeable by me. what does the imap protocol say? does mutt send a valid delete-request? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Mutt and address books
Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-22:05): bind editor ^T complete-query Ahh. Ahh. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Still alive?
Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:40): clemensF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, 14 May 2000: can this be done: everyone may optionally supply a "backup" email-address which unsubscribe notification are forwarded to, so one at least knows what's happening? Hmmm, Majordomo doesn't support something like that. Sorry. does anybody know of a list manager with this functionality? this could prove important for desparate people... -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bind pager Q query
why, o why does "bind pager Q query" in .muttrc always give errors like "no such function"? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still alive?
Gero Treuner (Sun 14.0500-18:48): If there is a problem (bounce) with your e-mail account, you are automatically removed from the list. Re-subscribe in this case. this has already happened to me, and i am still waiting for my otherwise trustworthy isp to answer my complaint. i didn't even know i was unsubbed until a message of mine to the list was answered by the list-managing program as beeing forwarded to the owner for this reason. can this be done: everyone may optionally supply a "backup" email-address which unsubscribe notification are forwarded to, so one at least knows what's happening? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
