Re: Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
On Thursday, 06 January 2000 at 16:02, David DeSimone wrote: Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, IMAP handles both sides of this. Just don't purge - messages will keep their D flags... The last time I checked, Mutt doesn't send flag-changes to the IMAP server until you quit... so the messages can't keep their D flags, because Mutt never sent them. Has that changed recently? Hmmm, it may depend on confirm_delete [sic] - the way it works is if mutt asks you whether you wish to purge messages (when syncing or switching folders) and you decline, the messages are still marked 'D', but not expunged. I do use this from time to time in the development series. I doubt it's in the stable branch yet, though... I'll have a closer look at the code path when I get back home... -Brendan
Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:57:06AM +0200, Alwyn Schoeman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Is there a way to delete the files tagged as delete without leaving mutt? [Usually $, but you've probably seen that by now.] This reminded me of something a Pine user mentioned to me as a reason he'd not yet embraced mutt. It seems that Pine can keep track of messages flagged as deleted, between sessions (it adds a header, 'X-Status: D'), so you can mark a bunch of messages as deleted and they stay marked until you finally expunge/sync the mailbox. Have I missed an option to do this in mutt, or is it not possible? Was there a reason, or has it even been noticed/considered? (I sure hadn't noticed it ;-) -Rich -- -- Rich Lafferty --- Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP signature
Re: Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that Pine can keep track of messages flagged as deleted, between sessions (it adds a header, 'X-Status: D'), so you can mark a bunch of messages as deleted and they stay marked until you finally expunge/sync the mailbox. Mutt supports one side of this... if the mailbox contains messages with the 'X-Status: D' header, they will indeed be pre-marked for deletion upon entering the folder. I have a procmail script which marks spam messages in this fashion. However, Mutt has no support for writing a mailbox in this fashion. Have I missed an option to do this in mutt, or is it not possible? Was there a reason, or has it even been noticed/considered? (I sure hadn't noticed it ;-) Why do people always insist that someone give a specific reason why something hasn't been done yet? As if everyone had already considered every possibility, and each was selected and rejected for various criteria... :) In this case, the idea has come up on this list, and several people thought it was a good idea, but nobody actually wrote any code, so nothing actually happened. That's how open software usually is. :) -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:18:47PM -0600, David DeSimone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that Pine can keep track of messages flagged as deleted, between sessions (it adds a header, 'X-Status: D'), so you can mark a bunch of messages as deleted and they stay marked until you finally expunge/sync the mailbox. Mutt supports one side of this... if the mailbox contains messages with the 'X-Status: D' header, they will indeed be pre-marked for deletion upon entering the folder. I have a procmail script which marks spam messages in this fashion. However, Mutt has no support for writing a mailbox in this fashion. Ah, it's a start :-) Have I missed an option to do this in mutt, or is it not possible? Was there a reason, or has it even been noticed/considered? (I sure hadn't noticed it ;-) Why do people always insist that someone give a specific reason why something hasn't been done yet? As if everyone had already considered every possibility, and each was selected and rejected for various criteria... :) Because that's often the case with ideas coming from Pine, with Mutt :-) In this case, the idea has come up on this list, and several people thought it was a good idea, but nobody actually wrote any code, so nothing actually happened. That's how open software usually is. :) Well, it's not an itch *I* need to scratch, so now I can turn around to him and note that patches are welcome :-) Having not used Pine since 2.x, I had no idea what might have gone on regarding this bit. -Rich -- -- Rich Lafferty --- Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP signature
Re: Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
On Thursday, 06 January 2000 at 15:12, Rich Lafferty wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:18:47PM -0600, David DeSimone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that Pine can keep track of messages flagged as deleted, between sessions (it adds a header, 'X-Status: D'), so you can mark a bunch of messages as deleted and they stay marked until you finally expunge/sync the mailbox. ... In this case, the idea has come up on this list, and several people thought it was a good idea, but nobody actually wrote any code, so nothing actually happened. That's how open software usually is. :) Well, it's not an itch *I* need to scratch, so now I can turn around to him and note that patches are welcome :-) Having not used Pine since 2.x, I had no idea what might have gone on regarding this bit. BTW, IMAP handles both sides of this. Just don't purge - messages will keep theit D flags...
Re: Exiting without applying deletions (was: Applying deletions without exiting)
Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, IMAP handles both sides of this. Just don't purge - messages will keep their D flags... The last time I checked, Mutt doesn't send flag-changes to the IMAP server until you quit... so the messages can't keep their D flags, because Mutt never sent them. Has that changed recently? -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
