Re: Help with multiple emails
3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g. passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure. If you're on Linux, you might find the msmtp-gnome package useful. It allows you to store your password in the gnome-keyring. It's better than storing passwords in clear text in config files, but I don't know enough to tell if it'll satisfy folks who are serious about security. I use offlineimap for incoming mail, and that uses the gnome keyring too, but that is probably irrelevant to your needs. HTH, mandar.
Re: Help with multiple emails
Hi Robert, * Robert Dyer 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [28. Oct. 2011]: I have now successfully set up mutt as my email client, but have three issues remaining. They are listed below in order of increasing seriousness. 1) I have successfully set up macros for limiting the number of emails I see, but would like to be able to have a default limiting expression for when I first start mutt. how about (untested) push limit~Aenter see all in your muttrc? 2) I have placed all my emails in one maildir structure but would like to back them up independently. I.e. 'cp'ing them only if the sender or receiver had a particular address. This would have to be scriptable. Uhhh. That's problematic since it's not easy to catch all cases. I'd do this on the level of the MDA (procmail). Therefore I'd match on the Delivered-To: header. 3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g. passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure. See other answer, I don't have experience with this. Ciao, Gregor -- -... --- .-. . -.. ..--.. ...-.-
Re: Help with multiple emails
I have now successfully set up mutt as my email client, but have three issues remaining. They are listed below in order of increasing seriousness. 1) I have successfully set up macros for limiting the number of emails I see, but would like to be able to have a default limiting expression for when I first start mutt. 2) I have placed all my emails in one maildir structure but would like to back them up independently. I.e. 'cp'ing them only if the sender or receiver had a particular address. This would have to be scriptable. 3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g. passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure. To clarify the programs I have installed to manage my mail are: mutt (obviously), getmail, procmail, and msmtp. I would very much appreciate any help possible, as the last issue especially is a BIG problem. For the benefit of those reading this I will attach a copy of my .muttrc rather than uploading it. Also for those wondering, explicitly setting my from address to an empty string did not work as expected, instead mutt very incorrectly guessed my address based on my login name and the name of the computer I was working at. However this did not matter as by not specifying a default account for msmtp I receive an error whenever trying to send an email without explicitly setting the from address. Finally a thank you in advance to anyone who can help :-). # character set on messages that we send set send_charset=utf-8 # if there is no character set given on incoming messages, it is probably windows set assumed_charset=iso-8859-1 # make sure Vim knows mutt is a mail client and that we compose an UTF-8 encoded message set editor=vim -c 'set syntax=mail ft=mail enc=utf-8' # Tell mutt to use maildir format set mbox_type=Maildir # just scroll one line instead of full page set menu_scroll=yes # enable mailcap file set mailcap_path=~/.mutt/mailcap # we want to see some MIME types inline, see below this code listing for explanation auto_view text/html auto_view application/msword auto_view application/pdf # make default search pattern to search in To, Cc and Subject set simple_search=~f %s | ~C %s | ~s %s # threading preferences, sort by threads set sort=threads set strict_threads=yes # show spam score (from SpamAssassin only) when reading a message spam X-Spam-Score: ([0-9\\.]+).* SA: %1 set pager_format = %C - %[%H:%M] %.20v, %s%* %?H? [%H] ? # do not show all headers, just a few ignore * unignoreFrom To Cc Bcc Date Subject # and in this order unhdr_order * hdr_order From: To: Cc: Bcc: Date: Subject: # brighten up stuff with colours, for more colouring examples see: # http://aperiodic.net/phil/configs/mutt/colors color normal white black color hdrdefault green default color quoted green default color quoted1 yellow default color quoted2 reddefault color signature cyan default color indicator brightyellow red color error brightred default color status brightwhiteblue color treebrightmagenta black color tilde blue default color attachment brightyellow default color markers brightred default color message white black color search brightwhitemagenta color boldbrightyellow default # if you don't like the black progress bar at the bottom of the screen, # comment out the following line color progresswhite black # spell-checking set ispell=aspell -e -c # personality settings set sendmail='/usr/bin/msmtp' set reverse_name set realname = [CENSORED] unset from set use_envelope_from alternates ^[CENSORED]$ alternates ^[CENSORED]$ alternates ^[CENSORED]$ alternates -group [CENSORED] ^[CENSORED]$ ^[CENSORED]$ # this file must exist, and contains your signature, comment it out if # you don't want a signature to be used ## set signature = ~/.signature # aliases (sort of address book) set alias_file=/data/mail/aliases set sort_alias=alias set reverse_alias=yes source $alias_file # account settings set folder=/data/mail set spoolfile=+.Inbox set mask=!^\\.[^.] set record=+.Sent set postponed=+.Drafts # use headercache for IMAP (make sure this is a directory for performance!) set header_cache=/tmp/.mutt # mailboxes we want to monitor for new mail mailboxes ! `\ for file in /data/mail/.*; do \ box=$(basename $file); \ if [ ! $box = '.' -a ! $box = '..' -a ! $box = '.customflags' \ -a ! $box = '.subscriptions' ]; then \ echo -n \+$box\ ; \ fi; \ done` # mailboxes = # mailboxes =Lists # mailing lists we are on (these are regexps!) ## subscribe gentoo-.*@gentoo\\.org # Macros macro index,pager c change-folder?toggle-mailboxes open a different folder # macro pager c change-folder?toggle-mailboxes open a
Re: Help with multiple emails
Hi 42possibletrash, * 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [23. Oct. 2011]: Thank you for your replies Gregor Zattler and Jostein Gogstad. I have followed Gregor's advice and moved all my emails into one folder, /data/mail. This is my current .muttrc: http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ]http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ. ATM I cannot access this website. The current problem I am having is setting up mutt to my liking in terms of composing emails. This may not be a crucial problem, but I hope you don't mind helping me out all the same. On eudora and previous email clients I was able, albeit with some work, to get them to let me compose new emails with no 'From' information by default. This helped as it meant that I had to consider which account I should be sending emails from on an individual basis, hence less mistakes. However as you can probably see from my .muttrc I have been having trouble configuring this. Ideally I would like mutt to prompt for a from address every time I compose a new email, rather than having to use a macro which can properly function only once (subsequent attempts brings up a list of every alias entry). 3.299. use_from Type: boolean Default: yes When set, Mutt will generate the “From:” header field when sending messages. If unset, no “From:” header field will be generated unless the user explicitly sets one using the “my_hdr” command. So set use_from. And: 3.74. from Type: e-mail address Default: (empty) When set, this variable contains a default from address. It can be overridden using “my_hdr” (including from a “send-hook”) and $reverse_name. This variable is ignored if $use_from is unset. This setting defaults to the contents of the environment variable $EMAIL. And explicitly set from to an empty string. I don't have the time to test this, but I assume it gives you an empty from header. If you also set 3.57. edit_headers Type: boolean Default: no This option allows you to edit the header of your outgoing messages along with the body of your message. Note that changes made to the References: and Date: headers are ignored for interoperability reasons. You are able to edit all email header within your editor. Also I note that currently my alternate addresses seem to have no function, as the index limiting macros have the addresses input as literal strings anyway. Any help would be appreciated :-) . Still no access to your settings. I described in my previous email how to set alternate email addresses. What happens if you hit `l' (for limit) when you are seeing your folder index (the emails in your folder) and give `~P' as the limiting pattern? Should show all emails from all your email addresses. Ciao, Gregor -- -... --- .-. . -.. ..--.. ...-.-
Re: Help with multiple emails
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 01:59:44PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: Hi 42possibletrash, mutt users, * 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [22. Oct. 2011]: I have looked for an answer online but failed. To clarify what I want is to be able to swap email accounts within one session of mutt, possibly using a set of macro bound keys. I was using mbox format within Eudora, but have decided to move to maildir, the conversion seems to work perfectly. I have also started this thread online, but unfortunately did not get a lot of help: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-898276.html. Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. :-) For this to achieve it's best to use folder-hooks. you enter a folder and your settings are set up accordingly. I currently manage three accounts with mutt, and folder- and send-hooks does it for me. If you want macros, you might want to check out muttprofile [1]. Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. :-) I'd recommend fetchmail and some custom MTA for choosing the correct SMTP-server based on the To-field for this. For instance msmtp. [1] http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~mara/mutt/profiles.html -- Jostein
Re: Help with multiple emails
Thank you for your replies Gregor Zattler and Jostein Gogstad. I have followed Gregor's advice and moved all my emails into one folder, /data/mail. This is my current .muttrc: http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ]http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ. The current problem I am having is setting up mutt to my liking in terms of composing emails. This may not be a crucial problem, but I hope you don't mind helping me out all the same. On eudora and previous email clients I was able, albeit with some work, to get them to let me compose new emails with no 'From' information by default. This helped as it meant that I had to consider which account I should be sending emails from on an individual basis, hence less mistakes. However as you can probably see from my .muttrc I have been having trouble configuring this. Ideally I would like mutt to prompt for a from address every time I compose a new email, rather than having to use a macro which can properly function only once (subsequent attempts brings up a list of every alias entry). Also I note that currently my alternate addresses seem to have no function, as the index limiting macros have the addresses input as literal strings anyway. Any help would be appreciated :-) .
Help with multiple emails
Hello, I'm new to mutt and in the early stages of migrating over from Eudora OSE. My problem is the lack of obvious support for someone with several email addresses. I have four email accounts, for which mutt will work well with one at a time, but I have no method of swaping. Please note that at this time I have not configured any program to receive my emails and am only concerned with moving my emails over to be viewed on mutt. My .muttrc: http://ompldr.org/vYXUxZQ. When researching this problem I came to the conclusion it should be possible to write a macro to swap from one email to another, e.g. F1-4. However I am not convinced this would be possible now as I am aware each email has it's own mailbox, e.g. '/Main', with it's own subdirectories, e.g. '/Inbox'. This complicates matters as the script used to find mailboxes is static and does not rely on mutts own internal vars, e.g. '$folder'. I am at a lose, and would desperately appreciate any help possible. I have looked for an answer online but failed. To clarify what I want is to be able to swap email accounts within one session of mutt, possibly using a set of macro bound keys. I was using mbox format within Eudora, but have decided to move to maildir, the conversion seems to work perfectly. I have also started this thread online, but unfortunately did not get a lot of help: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-898276.html. Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. :-)
Re: Help with multiple emails
Hi 42possibletrash, mutt users, * 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [22. Oct. 2011]: My problem is the lack of obvious support for someone with several email addresses. I have four email accounts, for which mutt will work well with one at a time, but I have no method of swaping. Mutt supports various using several email addresses in a generic way. It is for instance not necessary to separate emails from different accounts in different mail folders. First you have to tell mutt about the email addresses you use -- as opposed to every other email address in emails you receive. Read 3.11 Alternative Addresses in the fine manual. The minimum configuration is like this: alternates ^m...@home.info$ alternates ^m...@work.com$ alternates ^roleacco...@organisation.org$ Then you may for instance limit the index of a mail folder to only show emails which originate from you with the search pattern ~P or to only show mails which are from you or addressed to you. While in the one-email-folder-per-account organisation you for instance will not find an email from a working colleague because it's not in the work related mail folder since s/he emailed your private address... If you keep all your emails in one folder then you can limit the index to only show emails from you to em...@example.com ore from em...@example.com to you respectively with ~L em...@example.com. Then there are a few variables to control how mutt reacts in case you reply to an email. If for instance reverse_name is set (default is not set) and the email you are replying to originates or is addressed to one of your email addresses, mutt uses this email address in replies, otherwise it will use your email address as indicated by your OS. Normally, if you reply to an email the resulting new email is addressed to the address in the From: header field. But if mutt knows which addresses are yours it will arrange to address the new email to the address in the To: header field if the original email originated from you (if you for instance want to ask a person why s/he did not respond to your earlier email). If you separate specific emails in specific mail folders then you can trigger certain settings specific to this mail folders via folder-hooks. You may also specify settings for sending and replying via send-hooks and reply-hooks and mix them. And last not least you may bind macros to keys. The macros may set settings according to what you now are used to as account settings. For me a dynamic configuration which automatically chooses certain settings based on the mail folder I'm viewing and/or the email I'm replying to is much more comfortable than always having to remember to press a key first. But none the less I also have macros like this: macro generic \e8 enter-command source $HOME/.mutt/profiles/telegr...@gmx.net/settings\n be Gregor Zattler telegr...@gmx.net which stitches all dynamic configuration off and sets things for a specific role of mine. Please note that at this time I have not configured any program to receive my emails and am only concerned with moving my emails over to be viewed on mutt. My .muttrc: http://ompldr.org/vYXUxZQ. When researching this problem I came to the conclusion it should be possible to write a macro to swap from one email to another, e.g. F1-4. However I am not convinced this would be possible now as I am aware each email has it's own mailbox, e.g. '/Main', with it's own subdirectories, e.g. '/Inbox'. This complicates matters as the script used to find mailboxes is static and does not rely on mutts own internal vars, e.g. '$folder'. I am at a lose, and would desperately appreciate any help possible. I have looked for an answer online but failed. To clarify what I want is to be able to swap email accounts within one session of mutt, possibly using a set of macro bound keys. I was using mbox format within Eudora, but have decided to move to maildir, the conversion seems to work perfectly. I have also started this thread online, but unfortunately did not get a lot of help: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-898276.html. Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. :-) For this to achieve it's best to use folder-hooks. you enter a folder and your settings are set up accordingly. Mutt is extremely flexible and customisable but you will have to read the fine manual. HTH, Gregor -- -... --- .-. . -.. ..--.. ...-.-
