Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:07:07:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus:
  Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf
  seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be
  more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific.

 I see... ;)

At least it was the smiley after your question which confused me. As I
read you use a linux from scratch. Are you sure it looks professional
advertising uptimes of 1 or 2 hours? ;-)

Rocco



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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Will Yardley

Rocco Rutte wrote:
 
 At least it was the smiley after your question which confused me. As I
 read you use a linux from scratch. Are you sure it looks professional
 advertising uptimes of 1 or 2 hours? ;-)
 
he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel.

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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:54:17:PM -0800 Will Yardley wrote:
 Rocco Rutte wrote:
  
  At least it was the smiley after your question which confused me. As I
  read you use a linux from scratch. Are you sure it looks professional
  advertising uptimes of 1 or 2 hours? ;-)
  
 he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel.

It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what
would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does
make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them
uptime is all that matters...

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:20:32PM +0200:
 
 It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what
 would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does
 make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them
 uptime is all that matters...

It'd be easier to just make /proc/uptime writable...

(Yes, I'm aware that requires a code change, not just chmod.  Every
time I say this I get some idiot pointing this out to me, like I didn't
know it.)




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[OT] Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.04.01, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what
 would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does
 make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them
 uptime is all that matters...

NetBSD used to allow you to cat vmunix /dev/kernel to reload the
kernel. It also forced a reboot, too, but I thought it was a neat trick.

I don't care about uptime per se, but keeping my processes' state
would be valuable to me, personally, and could be really quite nice
for servers. It's an interesting lateral approach to the checkpointing
problem. (Or maybe it *is* the checkpointing problem... I don't know
the details of what you're describing, but it could go either way, I
suppose.)

-- 
 -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago



Re: Irony getting in the way

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:26:05:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote:
 It'd be easier to just make /proc/uptime writable...

Yeah, but you would have to ...

 (Yes, I'm aware that requires a code change, not just chmod.  Every
 time I say this I get some idiot pointing this out to me, like I didn't
 know it.)

... oh, you already know it. ;-)

SCNR,

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


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Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus:
  he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel.
=20
 It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what
 would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'.

Didn't that happen on this mailing list? If not, I must be thinking
about that web forum I hang around on.=20

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Re: Irony getting in the way

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:08:37:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus:
  It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what
  would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'.

 Didn't that happen on this mailing list? If not, I must be thinking
 about that web forum I hang around on. 

I don't know. I bet it was in a newsgroups... and maybe here, too.
That's what someone has local mail archives and online mailing list
archives for.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-03-27 Thread Martin Karlsson

* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-27 11.28 -0700]:
 Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus:
As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more
specific? ;-)
  
   What are you getting at? ;)
  
  Sorry, I don't get this one. Either it's too late or I'm too stupid. You
  want to say what?
 
 I believe that's what I just said to you.

Aha, I detect /irony/ at the root of this: :-)

Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf
seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be
more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific.

Note: Theese are my personal observations, and if I have
misinterpreted any of you, I'm very sorry.

Cheers,
-- 
 Martin Karlsson



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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-03-27 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


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Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus:
 Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf
 seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be
 more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific.

I see... ;)

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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-03-27 Thread Simon White

27-Mar-02 at 13:07, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus:
  Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf
  seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be
  more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific.
 
 I see... ;)

Did you just make it even more ridiculously accurate, or is that just me?

Maybe Rob is really a python script which takes everything literally?

--
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bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
bigger and better idiots.  So far, the Universe is winning.  -- Rich Cook
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Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-03-27 Thread David T-G

Simon, et al --

...and then Simon White said...
% 
% 27-Mar-02 at 13:07, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
%  Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus:
%   Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf
%   seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be
%   more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_ specific.
%  
%  I see... ;)
% 
% Did you just make it even more ridiculously accurate, or is that just me?

No, he did.  After all, when your uptime is measured in single-digit
hours, you have to have *something* about which to crow, so incredible
accuracy is what he has to choose.


% 
% Maybe Rob is really a python script which takes everything literally?

That would explain the drivel...  If he were a perl script he'd reply
more literately :-)


% 
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% [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:57.38% see www.mersenne.org]
% Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
% bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
% bigger and better idiots.  So far, the Universe is winning.  -- Rich Cook
% [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]


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