Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-02-01 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


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Alas! David T-G spake thus:
 % I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the
 % same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the
 % message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index).  Nothi=
ng
 % goofy about it.
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 How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros
 bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null?

You're supposed to make a wonky folder-hook that deletes messages while
in the trash, but saves them to the trash folder from other folders. ;)

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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-02-01 Thread David T-G

Rob --

...and then Feztaa said...
% 
% Alas! David T-G spake thus:
%  % I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the
%  % same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the
%  % message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index).  Nothing
%  % goofy about it.
%  
%  How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros
%  bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null?
% 
% You're supposed to make a wonky folder-hook that deletes messages while
% in the trash, but saves them to the trash folder from other folders. ;)

No, no, I know that; I was explaining why things got goofy.  It would be
much cleaner to use Cedric's trash_folder patch anyway :-)


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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-31 Thread Phil Gregory

* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 20:15 -0700]:
 Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus:
  On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
 macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
  
  Thanks, this really works fine!
 
 Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then
 things get really goofy :)

I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the
same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the
message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index).  Nothing
goofy about it.

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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-31 Thread David T-G

Phil --

...and then Phil Gregory said...
% 
% * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 20:15 -0700]:
%  Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus:
%   On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
%macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash 
folder
...
%  Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then
%  things get really goofy :)
% 
% I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the
% same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the
% message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index).  Nothing
% goofy about it.

How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros
bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null?


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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-17 Thread Alain Bench

Hello James,

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 12:52:43 PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:

 macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder

 The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I delete

Simply add a second enter at the end of each one of Justin's
macro definition, like this:

macro pager d save-message=trashenterenter move message to trash folder


Bye!Alain.



Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-16 Thread Andreas Herceg

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:11:32PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
| On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
|  On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
|  | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult
|  | the manual).  The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-)
|  
|  I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes
|  to action, only when deleting from the trash.
|  
|  I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to
|  the trash-folder. At least that's my problem.
| 
| Then check $confirmappend.

Sure, I already had that Idea. What I tried was:

folder-hook trash set confirmappend=no

What I achieved this way is that appending a message *from* the trash
has not to be confirmed. Appending a message *to* trash has still to be
confirmed.


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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-16 Thread David T-G

Andreas, et al --

...and then Andreas Herceg said...
% 
% On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:11:32PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
% | On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
% |  On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
% |  | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult
% |  | the manual).  The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-)
% |  
% |  I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes
% |  to action, only when deleting from the trash.
% |  
% |  I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to
% |  the trash-folder. At least that's my problem.
% | 
% | Then check $confirmappend.
% 
% Sure, I already had that Idea. What I tried was:
% 
% folder-hook trash set confirmappend=no
% 
% What I achieved this way is that appending a message *from* the trash
% has not to be confirmed. Appending a message *to* trash has still to be
% confirmed.

You've seen why that won't work.  Using a folder-hook on your current
folder, or changing the macro to turn it off and then on, would do the
trick.


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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-16 Thread David T-G

James --

...and then James Hamilton said...
% 
% I usually delete a whole slue of messages at a time.  For example I had ~150 
messages to scan through in my inbox this morning.  Most of them spam system email 
etc.  Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i sync-mailbox 
have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash folder?  The method listed 
below makes me answer yes to each message I delete which is much more work than just 
keeping a backup of everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail..

If you want to have a trash folder, I highly recommend Cedric Duval's
trash_folder patch.  Meanwhile, checking your $confirmappend and $delete
settings to set them to no (perhaps in your macro) will get rid of the
prompting.


HTH  HAND

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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-15 Thread James Hamilton


I usually delete a whole slue of messages at a time.  For example I had ~150 messages 
to scan through in my inbox this morning.  Most of them spam system email etc.  Can 
someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i sync-mailbox have the 
messages marked for deletion move to the trash folder?  The method listed below makes 
me answer yes to each message I delete which is much more work than just keeping a 
backup of everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail..

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
 Thus spake Andreas Reinhold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages
  marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead.
  
  My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing
  deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :)
 
   macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
   macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
   macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
   macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
 
 In addition, I have this to periodically clean the trash out.  Just
 change in, poke around, and change out. 
 
   folder-hook trash push 'D~r3d\n\cu.\n'
 
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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-15 Thread Justin R. Miller

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Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i
 sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash
 folder?  The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I
 delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of
 everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail..

Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult
the manual).  The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-)

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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-15 Thread Andreas Herceg

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
| Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|  Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i
|  sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash
|  folder?  The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I
|  delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of
|  everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail..
| 
| Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult
| the manual).  The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-)

I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes
to action, only when deleting from the trash.

I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to
the trash-folder. At least that's my problem.


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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-15 Thread Jeremy Blosser

On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
 | Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 |  Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i
 |  sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash
 |  folder?  The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I
 |  delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of
 |  everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail..
 | 
 | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult
 | the manual).  The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-)
 
 I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes
 to action, only when deleting from the trash.
 
 I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to
 the trash-folder. At least that's my problem.

Then check $confirmappend.



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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-11 Thread Im Eunjea

* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-10 20:15]:
 Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus:
  On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:
 macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
 macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
 macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
 macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
  
  Thanks, this really works fine!
 
 Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then
 things get really goofy :)
 

I would like to add this for safe :)

folder-hook trash 'bind index d delete-message'
folder-hook trash 'bind pager d delete-message'


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Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-10 Thread Andreas Reinhold

Hi,

i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked 
with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead.

My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted
messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :)

cheers,
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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-10 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Andreas Reinhold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages
 marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead.
 
 My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing
 deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :)

macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder

In addition, I have this to periodically clean the trash out.  Just
change in, poke around, and change out. 

folder-hook trash push 'D~r3d\n\cu.\n'

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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-10 Thread Andreas Reinhold

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote:

   macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
   macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder
   macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder
   macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder

Thanks, this really works fine!

cheers
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Re: Move deleted messages to trash

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 11-01-02 at 08:17 
* Andreas Reinhold said

 Hi,
 
 i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked 
 with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead.
 
 My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted
 messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :)
 

There's a very good patch for this, which you can get at
mutt.justpickone.org (among other places I imagine) 
It's called patch-1.3.25.cd.trash_folder.1
You must also 'set trash=~Mail/Trash (or whatever.
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