Re: Mutt and sendmail
Manoj Naik [mutt-users] 11/06/01 19:21 +0530: Will it allow me to send attachments?? that is the function of your mail program. you can uuencode things if you want - or try nail - a MIME aware variant of mailx -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Mutt and sendmail
[Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:23:35AM +0530] Manoj Naik : I suggest you use a MSA like masqmail/nullmailer instead of a full fledged MTA on that box. Lookup a package called 'ssmtp'. Small and well done. Been using the same on an old 386 for a long time. -- ragOO, VU2RGU Keeping the Air-Waves FREE...Amateur Radio Keeping your Software FREE.the GNU Project Keeping the W W W FREEDebian GNU/${kernel}
Mutt and sendmail
Hello All, I have recently bought a PCM-5820 mainboard and want to develop an embedded linux platform.I want to use Mutt as the MUA.Can anybody tell me what are the minimum files in Mutt and sendamil which i will require to send and recieve mails. Thanks Manoj
fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
Hello, I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? Thank you very much Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Joss Winn wrote: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? just curious, why deliver the mail via sendmail? you can just call procmail directly from fetchmail, and skip sendmail alltogether... unless there's a reason I've missed here? just put: mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T in your fetchmailrc, and turn off sendmail :) HTH, Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux MVP Brainbench.com
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
Joss Winn [mutt-users] 21/05/01 22:27 +0900: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with RTFM the mda flag in fetchmail - you can use procmail, maildrop, deliver (or whatever) for local delivery. fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am You can have it listen only on 127.0.0.1 (use the daemon port options in sendmail.mc) the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? defaults forcecr poll pop.server with proto pop3 user foo with pass bar mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T fetchall -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:02:35AM -, mutt-users-digest wrote: -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:27:10 +0900 From: Joss Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail Hello, I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? Thank you very much Joss - -- http://www.josswinn.org -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:33:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail On Mon, 21 May 2001, Joss Winn wrote: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? just curious, why deliver the mail via sendmail? you can just call procmail directly from fetchmail, and skip sendmail alltogether... unless there's a reason I've missed here? just put: mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T in your fetchmailrc, and turn off sendmail :) HTH, Dan - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux MVP Brainbench.com -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:53:46 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail Joss Winn [mutt-users] 21/05/01 22:27 +0900: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with RTFM the mda flag in fetchmail - you can use procmail, maildrop, deliver (or whatever) for local delivery. fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am You can have it listen only on 127.0.0.1 (use the daemon port options in sendmail.mc) the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? defaults forcecr poll pop.server with proto pop3 user foo with pass bar mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T fetchall - -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin -- Dan and Suresh, thanks very much. I was under the impression that I had to have sendmail communicating with fetchmail to get the mail to my inbox. I thought it was a bit of an overkill for such a simple situation. All solved. cheers joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
Hello, I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this). Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this? Please reply to me directly, since I am not subscribed to this list. Thanks. Damien.
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
I suppose you could make a fcc-hook to an outbox, then setup a send-hook from that outbox. This would more then likely do that job. Manual. On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas muttered: | Hello, | | I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail | configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue | when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message | it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make | a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but | from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this). | | Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I | have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this? | | Please reply to me directly, since I am not subscribed to this list. | | Thanks. | | Damien. -- /Jason G Helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 6A32 3774 E390 33B5 8C96 2AA1 2BF4 BD71 35A1 C149 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/35A1C149
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
Damien Tougas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 23 Aug 2000: Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this? When you send an email, Mutt calls a program defined in the $sendmail Mutt configuration variable. If you want to use some kind of "send later" scheme, it's probably best if you create your own custom setup for this. I personally would recommend ditching sendmail altogether and using something like MasqMail or something which has been created for dialup use. I don't know what kind of delayed-mailing features they have, though, but probably better than sendmail anyway. Or you could just write a custom script that saves the email in some special folder (or whatever data format you want to use), from where the emails are then sent by another script once you're online. In any case, Mutt doesn't have any kind of "send later" feature, except that you can choose your delivery program yourself. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / It *is* as bad as you think, and they *are* out to get you.
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas wrote: I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this). I'm using Sendmail on a dialup and it queues messages when offline. When Mutt sends a message it's put in the queue and no dialup is initiated. Later, when I connect, I type "sendmail -q" and the queued messages are sent. Unfortunately, I don't remember where this is configured, but at least you know it's possible to stop sendmail/PPPd from dialing every time a message is queued (I think this is a PPPd issue). If someone else doesn't point out what needs to be configured, let me know and I'll dig into it more. Regards, -rex
RE: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly. (from man sendmail: DeliveryMode=x Set the delivery mode to x. Delivery modes are i interactive (synchronous) delivery b background (asynchronous) delivery q queue only; that is, actual delivery is done the next time the queue is run d deferred; the same as q except that database lookups (notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided ) See also the sendmail operations guide. LER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rex Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:40 AM To: Damien Tougas Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP. On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas wrote: I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this). I'm using Sendmail on a dialup and it queues messages when offline. When Mutt sends a message it's put in the queue and no dialup is initiated. Later, when I connect, I type "sendmail -q" and the queued messages are sent. Unfortunately, I don't remember where this is configured, but at least you know it's possible to stop sendmail/PPPd from dialing every time a message is queued (I think this is a PPPd issue). If someone else doesn't point out what needs to be configured, let me know and I'll dig into it more. Regards, -rex
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
At 11:29 -0500 24 Aug 2000, Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly. It can also be done on the command line by including the -odq option. But d deferred; the same as q except that database lookups (notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided would probably be more appropriate here. It can be set on the command line using -odd . -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer.
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:29:38AM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly. (from man sendmail: DeliveryMode=x Set the delivery mode to x. Delivery modes are i interactive (synchronous) delivery b background (asynchronous) delivery q queue only; that is, actual delivery is done the next time the queue is run d deferred; the same as q except that database lookups (notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided My sendmail.cf is: O DeliveryMode=background and no dialup is initiated if the PC is offline when mail is sent. If the PC is online, the mail is sent immediately. -rex
Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.
*[Damien Tougas on Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400]: I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make In /etc/sendmail.cf (or /etc/mail/sendmail.cf in sendmail 8.10.x and above) just set o HoldExpensive = True (default is false) Mail is queued on your local sendmail queue - /var/spool/mqueue in redhat - and you can process the queue by /usr/sbin/sendmail -q A complete howto is given on the ILUG Hyderabad homepage at http://linuxindia.virtualave.net/vsnlcon.html Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this? hth -suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI The college graduate is presented with a sheepskin to cover his intellectual nakedness. -- Robert M. Hutchins
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: Does anyone use mutt with local sendmail, where the local sendmail is configured to forward all mail to a central hub? OK ... all you need to do is to set the DS flag in /etc/sendmail.cf to your central hub. That is DS your.central.hub.fqdn or DS [hubs.ip.address.here] = note the Domain literal format [ip] That's more than enough. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com "The Lord gave us farmers two strong hands so we could grab as much as we could with both of them." -- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22"
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone use mutt with local sendmail, where the local sendmail is configured to forward all mail to a central hub? yes. If so could I have a look at your sendmail.cf or relevant m4 file? i'd rather not. before i switched to qmail, some (hopefully relevant) part of it looked like: DSsmtp:mail.germanynet.de the smtp: protocol-designator was vital. my system didn't work right before it was in there. clemens
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
clemensF proclaimed on mutt-users that: i'd rather not. before i switched to qmail, some (hopefully relevant) part of it looked like: DSsmtp:mail.germanynet.de the smtp: protocol-designator was vital. my system didn't work right before it was in there. Prefixing smtp: to the smarthost is unnecessary - must have been something to do with your local configuration. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com "The Lord gave us farmers two strong hands so we could grab as much as we could with both of them." -- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22"
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
Or, use a nullclient configuration, and let m4 do the work... E.g., VERSIONID(`a null client configuration') OSTYPE(someOS) FEATURE(nullclient, yourcentralhub.somewhere.com) -- -e On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 12:25 PM, clemensF ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone use mutt with local sendmail, where the local sendmail is configured to forward all mail to a central hub? yes. If so could I have a look at your sendmail.cf or relevant m4 file? i'd rather not. before i switched to qmail, some (hopefully relevant) part of it looked like: DSsmtp:mail.germanynet.de the smtp: protocol-designator was vital. my system didn't work right before it was in there. clemens
Re: mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
Erik Jacobsen proclaimed on mutt-users that: Or, use a nullclient configuration, and let m4 do the work... No particular need to recompile sendmail.cf, when the DS setting does the trick, imho. E.g., VERSIONID(`a null client configuration') OSTYPE(someOS) FEATURE(nullclient, yourcentralhub.somewhere.com) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
mutt - sendmail - sendmail hub. sendmail.cf anyone?
Hi, Does anyone use mutt with local sendmail, where the local sendmail is configured to forward all mail to a central hub? If so could I have a look at your sendmail.cf or relevant m4 file? Thanks, -- Nigel Tamplin. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]