Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes - bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon

Scott V. McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail?  It seems
 like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system
 when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately
 send mail to my isp's smtp server.

Try nullmailer by Bruce Guenter:
http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/nullmailer/

It looks like a full MTA to programs that use it, but it relays everything
to (one of a set of) smart hosts/relays you specify -- typically your ISP
or your company mailhost.

It works well, and has a great design behind it.

Charles
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Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes - bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread David DeSimone

Scott V. McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail?  It seems
 like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system
 when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately
 send mail to my isp's smtp server.

What if your ISP's mail servers are down?  Then you can't send mail
anymore, until they come back.  If you run a local MTA, it can bypass
the ISP's servers, and go directly to the remote mail server.

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Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes - bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 01:54:30PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote:
 Scott V. McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail?  It seems
  like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system
  when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately
  send mail to my isp's smtp server.
 
 What if your ISP's mail servers are down?  Then you can't send mail
 anymore, until they come back.  If you run a local MTA, it can bypass
 the ISP's servers, and go directly to the remote mail server.
 
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 David DeSimone   | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  that there is no man really clever who has not
 Hewlett-Packard  |  found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson
 UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D  AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44

I agree that this is nice.  It looks as though nullmailer that people
mentioned above will queue, so thats taken care of.  As for going
directly to the remote server, problems with that earlier today are
what got me reading this list again and figuring out how to relay my
mail through my isp.  In the past I've had mail refused from my box,
which has a dynamic IP, because its name wouldn't resolve.  I fixed
that by getting a .dyndns.org account.  Then today a message was
refused by a computer that uses the ORBS blacklist which says that
there are too many open relays on .rr.com.  Interestingly if I forward
through my isp's server which is on .rr.com it goes through.  Go
figure.

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Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes - bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon

David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott V. McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail?  It seems
  like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system
  when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately
  send mail to my isp's smtp server.

 What if your ISP's mail servers are down?  Then you can't send mail
 anymore, until they come back.  If you run a local MTA, it can bypass
 the ISP's servers, and go directly to the remote mail server.

nullmailer has a queue and will send the mail when the smarthost comes back
up.

Yes, running a local MTA is good for some things.  It's not necessary for
others.  If we have, say, fifty Unix boxes here in our development areas,
we don't need to run a full MTA on all of them.  We can run nullmailer on
each one, pointing at our main SMTP/POP3 mailhost.

There's other solutions, as well.

Charles
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