Re: Migration : Dealing with Outlook users
Thanks guys, With your tips now I'm using the following combo : davmail + mutt + muttdown. The hard part was to configure SSL on davmail ( because there's no way to send plaintext ), despite this davmail serving to localhost only. I'll update you if anything goes wrong. On 9/7/19 2:02 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 07Sep2019 02:22, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2019-09-07, Italo Penna wrote: I'm a UNIX user trying to move from a GUI email ( Thunderbird ) to mutt. However most of company employers are MS Outlook users and, as expected, all them send html emails with tons of awkward stuff like tables, in-line images and meetings appointments . Good luck. I did that for decades, but have finally given up since we no longer have IMAP/SMTP enabled on the Exchange server. Heh. I've a client who occasionally misdelivers email to my account within their Exchange server. So I've got Apple Mail set up here with an exchange connection and a rule to forward everything it sees to my IMAP account (which I read with mutt). So Mail's running here in the background purely to get email to an IMAP server :-) Cheers, Cameron Simpson
Re: Migration : Dealing with Outlook users
On 07Sep2019 02:22, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2019-09-07, Italo Penna wrote: I'm a UNIX user trying to move from a GUI email ( Thunderbird ) to mutt. However most of company employers are MS Outlook users and, as expected, all them send html emails with tons of awkward stuff like tables, in-line images and meetings appointments . Good luck. I did that for decades, but have finally given up since we no longer have IMAP/SMTP enabled on the Exchange server. Heh. I've a client who occasionally misdelivers email to my account within their Exchange server. So I've got Apple Mail set up here with an exchange connection and a rule to forward everything it sees to my IMAP account (which I read with mutt). So Mail's running here in the background purely to get email to an IMAP server :-) Cheers, Cameron Simpson
Re: Migration : Dealing with Outlook users
On 2019-09-07, Italo Penna wrote: > I'm a UNIX user trying to move from a GUI email ( Thunderbird ) to mutt. > However most of company employers are MS Outlook users and, as expected, > all them send html emails with tons of awkward stuff like tables, > in-line images and meetings appointments . Good luck. I did that for decades, but have finally given up since we no longer have IMAP/SMTP enabled on the Exchange server. > I'm using vim as editor and a markdown parser ( pandoc ) via macro to > compose HTML mail to them ... For several years, I used "muttdown" to compose multipart-alternative plaintext and html messages and was quite happy with it. FWIW, my personal branch is here: https://github.com/GrantEdwards/muttdown > which works great ( except for in-line images, yet ) for composing, but > when replying someone including the sender message at the body of my > mail, the things becomes a real mess... Most of the time replying worked fine. Muttdown knows what to do with the ">" indentation that mutt produces. Replies did often require some re-arranging, re-quoting and a _lot_ of trimming to produce a reply that was readable and looked competent and professional. [OTOH, it's been decades since I've seen anybody else at work reply to an e-mail in a manner that I would deem even remotely professional.] Now that "they" have shut off IMAP/SMTP access to the Exchange server, my days of using mutt for work are over. Now I use Hiri and OWA webmail. They're both pretty awful in various differing ways. I still try to trim and respond in-line, but it's not always possible. Doing things in mutt was a _lot_ quicker and more efficient. I would guess I spend 3X-4X more time dealing with e-mail after being forced to give up mutt. I handled reading e-mails by setting up my mailcap file to use combination of w3m/links/links for inline rendering and firefox/mozilla when I hit 'p'. -- Grant
