Re: [MLO] Re: Force a task into active actions view?

2020-10-28 Thread Grant 
Thanks both! I can use both approaches - Dewight’s for something else

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 2:41:40 AM UTC+2 Dwight wrote:

> Susannah's answer is better than what I'm going to propose because it's 
> very flexible and easy to understand. I'm still going to share my 
> suggestion because it's a different approach.
>
> *Make a view that shows active tasks and tasks that are starred. *(This 
> assume that you are not already using the star for something - otherwise 
> use something else, for example a text-tag of "hot" or a special context or 
> something else.
>
> Then, when there's a task that's not "next" that you want shown, just turn 
> on the star (or text-tag or context, whatever you used) and the task will 
> join all of your active tasks.
>
> OK, how do you make a view that shows active and starred tasks? It's a 
> little tricky: Make a copy of your active actions view. Change the Show 
> Actions filter from Active to All (because some of the starred items are 
> not considered active.
>
> Then use Add Advanced to add the following filter:
> ((Starred) OR ((ActiveAction) AND ((StartDateTime does not exist) OR 
> (StartDateTime on or before Now)))
>
> The reason for this complexity is that "ShowActions: Active" and advanced 
> filter "ActiveActions" are not quite the same. "ShowActions:Active" 
> excludes any task with a future start time. In order to build views like 
> ActiveNext7Days you need to be able to include tasks that meet all the 
> criteria for being active except that their start date is in the future, 
> and that's what advanced filter "ActiveActions" does. In order to get the 
> same results as "ShowActions:Active"we need to exclude tasks with future 
> start dates. But remember that MLO filters dont say what to exclude, they 
> say what to INclude. To exclude tasks with future start dates, you have to 
> include tasks with no start date, as well as tasks with a start date that's 
> not in the future, in other words on or before now. Mahe sense?
>
> -Dwight
> On 10/22/2020 10:34, Susannah wrote:
>
> Yes leave "Complete subtasks in order" UNCHECKED.  Then use the 
> Dependencies farther down that pane.  Add the task that has to be completed 
> before this one becomes active.  It gives a lot more flexibility.  For 
> Example Task A and B are both active so have no dependencies.  Task C will 
> be active when both A and B are done so it has the Dependencies of Task A 
> and B OR Task C is active when Task A is complete thus only has Task A as a 
> dependency. 
> Susannah
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:41:22 AM UTC-4 Grant wrote:
>
>> I have a few projects where I have set the 'complete tasks in order' 
>> enabled.  This works for the core plan, but often I run into something 
>> small I need to do in addition to the Next Task on a particular day for the 
>> project.  Thus I want both to show on my active tasks view.  Is there a way 
>> to do this with a setting, etc (rather than a work around like two sub 
>> project folders, etc)?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Grant
>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Force a task into active actions view?

2020-10-22 Thread Dwight Arthur 

  
  
Susannah's answer is better than what I'm going to propose
  because it's very flexible and easy to understand. I'm still going
  to share my suggestion because it's a different approach.
Make a view that shows active tasks and tasks that are
starred. (This assume that you are not already using the
  star for something - otherwise use something else, for example a
  text-tag of "hot" or a special context or something else.
Then, when there's a task that's not "next" that you want shown,
  just turn on the star (or text-tag or context, whatever you used)
  and the task will join all of your active tasks.
OK, how do you make a view that shows active and starred tasks?
  It's a little tricky: Make a copy of your active actions view.
  Change the Show Actions filter from Active to All (because some of
  the starred items are not considered active.
Then use Add Advanced to add the following filter:
  ((Starred) OR ((ActiveAction) AND ((StartDateTime does not exist)
  OR (StartDateTime on or before Now)))
The reason for this complexity is that "ShowActions: Active" and
  advanced filter "ActiveActions" are not quite the same.
  "ShowActions:Active" excludes any task with a future start time.
  In order to build views like ActiveNext7Days you need to be able
  to include tasks that meet all the criteria for being active
  except that their start date is in the future, and that's what
  advanced filter "ActiveActions" does. In order to get the same
  results as "ShowActions:Active"we need to exclude tasks with
  future start dates. But remember that MLO filters dont say what to
  exclude, they say what to INclude. To exclude tasks with future
  start dates, you have to include tasks with no start date, as well
  as tasks with a start date that's not in the future, in other
  words on or before now. Mahe sense?
-Dwight

On 10/22/2020 10:34, Susannah wrote:


  
  Yes leave "Complete subtasks in order" UNCHECKED.  Then use the
  Dependencies farther down that pane.  Add the task that has to be
  completed before this one becomes active.  It gives a lot more
  flexibility.  For Example Task A and B are both active so have no
  dependencies.  Task C will be active when both A and B are done so
  it has the Dependencies of Task A and B OR Task C is active when
  Task A is complete thus only has Task A as a dependency.
  Susannah

  
  
On Thursday, October 22, 2020
  at 4:41:22 AM UTC-4 Grant wrote:


  I have a few projects where I have set the 'complete
tasks in order' enabled.  This works for the core plan, but
often I run into something small I need to do in addition to
the Next Task on a particular day for the project.  Thus I
want both to show on my active tasks view.  Is there a way
to do this with a setting, etc (rather than a work around
like two sub project folders, etc)?
  
  
  Thanks
  Grant
  

  
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Re: [MLO] Re: Force a task into active actions view?

2020-10-22 Thread Dwight Arthur 

  
  
Susannah's answer is better than what I'm going to propose
  because it's very flexible and easy to understand. I'm still going
  to share my suggestion because it's a different approach.
Make a view that shows active tasks and tasks that are
starred. (This assume that you are not already using the
  star for something - otherwise use something else, for example a
  text-tag of "hot" or a special context or something else.
Then, when there's a task that's not "next" that you want shown,
  just turn on the star (or text-tag or context, whatever you used)
  and the task will join all of your active tasks.
OK, how do you make a view that shows active and starred tasks?
  It's a little tricky: Make a copy of your active actions view.
  Change the Show Actions filter from Active to All (because some of
  the starred items are not considered active.
Then use Add Advanced to add the following filter:
  ((Starred) OR ((ActiveAction) AND ((StartDateTime does not exist)
  OR (StartDateTime on or before Now)))
The reason for this complexity is that "ShowActions: Active" and
  advanced filter "ActiveActions" are not quite the same.
  "ShowActions:Active" excludes any task with a future start time.
  In order to build views like ActiveNext7Days you need to be able
  to include tasks that meet all the criteria for being active
  except that their start date is in the future, and that's what
  advanced filter "ActiveActions" does. In order to get the same
  results as "ShowActions:Active"we need to exclude tasks with
  future start dates. But remember that MLO filters dont say what to
  exclude, they say what to INclude. To exclude tasks with future
  start dates, you have to include tasks with no start date, as well
  as tasks with a start date that's not in the future, in other
  words on or before now. Mahe sense?
-Dwight

On 10/22/2020 10:34, Susannah wrote:


  
  Yes leave "Complete subtasks in order" UNCHECKED.  Then use the
  Dependencies farther down that pane.  Add the task that has to be
  completed before this one becomes active.  It gives a lot more
  flexibility.  For Example Task A and B are both active so have no
  dependencies.  Task C will be active when both A and B are done so
  it has the Dependencies of Task A and B OR Task C is active when
  Task A is complete thus only has Task A as a dependency.
  Susannah

  
  
On Thursday, October 22, 2020
  at 4:41:22 AM UTC-4 Grant wrote:


  I have a few projects where I have set the 'complete
tasks in order' enabled.  This works for the core plan, but
often I run into something small I need to do in addition to
the Next Task on a particular day for the project.  Thus I
want both to show on my active tasks view.  Is there a way
to do this with a setting, etc (rather than a work around
like two sub project folders, etc)?
  
  
  Thanks
  Grant
  

  
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[MLO] Re: Force a task into active actions view?

2020-10-22 Thread Susannah 
Yes leave "Complete subtasks in order" UNCHECKED.  Then use the 
Dependencies farther down that pane.  Add the task that has to be completed 
before this one becomes active.  It gives a lot more flexibility.  For 
Example Task A and B are both active so have no dependencies.  Task C will 
be active when both A and B are done so it has the Dependencies of Task A 
and B OR Task C is active when Task A is complete thus only has Task A as a 
dependency.
Susannah

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:41:22 AM UTC-4 Grant wrote:

> I have a few projects where I have set the 'complete tasks in order' 
> enabled.  This works for the core plan, but often I run into something 
> small I need to do in addition to the Next Task on a particular day for the 
> project.  Thus I want both to show on my active tasks view.  Is there a way 
> to do this with a setting, etc (rather than a work around like two sub 
> project folders, etc)?
>
> Thanks
> Grant
>

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