[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-02-23 Thread A. W.
adding to feature requests related to auto-X..:
both are mutually exclusive..
- auto-zoom: if active: the task with the earliest start-date is kept on 
the left border, task with the latest end-date is kept on the right border 
- all the rest is automagically zoomed accordingly
- auto-focus: if active: with the setting of the intervall-size. the task 
in focus in the reference-non-gantt-view is used to keep the same task in 
the center of the gantt-view.

then the feature would be complete.
-a

A. W. schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 10:32:30 UTC+1:

> just doing through my daily routine... and dreaming about a possible 
> future :)
> 1- Putin go away
> 2-  some specifications for the gantt feature :)
>
>  config
> - set of tasks to include in the gantt - by view - like all tasks that are 
> displayed in the view and have dates are included in the gantt-view
> - select the dates to use for the bar visual - like (start, due), 
> (created, due), (modified, due), (start, TODAY),  basically start and 
> end configurable based on available data
> - coloring of the bars based on rules based on attributes, flags, 
> contexts, ... - again freely configurable
> - icons for bars on the same principle as coloring
>  viewing
> - zooming possibility - so that you can go from daily insights to lifetime 
> insights - back and forth
>  canvas mgmt - that would be the overkiller in usability
> - best to combine with the "dashboard" feature - which still is "advanced 
> view mgmt" and not a "dashboard" - but anyway ;)
> - - one element of the dashboard can be a gantt view
> 
> that would be like a quantum leap for insights creation and getting 
> m-l-o... 
>
> .. just dreaming
> .. all the best for the team in ukraine
>
> Claude x schrieb am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2023 um 14:22:04 UTC+1:
>
>> +++  it would be great!!!
>>
>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:07:30 UTC+1 Craig Lindholm wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. It would be awesome!
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:02:05 a.m. UTC-8 Susannah wrote:
>>>
 I agree also

 On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-5 deug...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
> The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
> But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true 
> sophisticated life planning/insights.
>
> Fully agreed 
>
> riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 
> UTC+1:
>
>> Yes, the due date.  
>>
>> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it 
>> every day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more 
>> products 
>> were of this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has 
>> everything implemented that one would need to organize their life.  
>> Except 
>> for *one glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>>
>> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain 
>> for MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for 
>> more. How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone 
>> think 
>> this is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
>> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout 
>> almost 
>> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are 
>> an 
>> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
>> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
>> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they 
>> focus 
>> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>>
>> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for 
>> us and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file 
>> in a 
>> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
>> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer 
>> could 
>> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has 
>> good 
>> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
>> respect. So I just don't get it.
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>>
>>> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have 
>>> any ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't 
 have to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar 
 that 
 starts at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to 
 another 
 bar dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-02-23 Thread A. W.
just doing through my daily routine... and dreaming about a possible future 
:)
1- Putin go away
2-  some specifications for the gantt feature :)

 config
- set of tasks to include in the gantt - by view - like all tasks that are 
displayed in the view and have dates are included in the gantt-view
- select the dates to use for the bar visual - like (start, due), (created, 
due), (modified, due), (start, TODAY),  basically start and end 
configurable based on available data
- coloring of the bars based on rules based on attributes, flags, contexts, 
... - again freely configurable
- icons for bars on the same principle as coloring
 viewing
- zooming possibility - so that you can go from daily insights to lifetime 
insights - back and forth
 canvas mgmt - that would be the overkiller in usability
- best to combine with the "dashboard" feature - which still is "advanced 
view mgmt" and not a "dashboard" - but anyway ;)
- - one element of the dashboard can be a gantt view

that would be like a quantum leap for insights creation and getting 
m-l-o... 

.. just dreaming
.. all the best for the team in ukraine

Claude x schrieb am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2023 um 14:22:04 UTC+1:

> +++  it would be great!!!
>
> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:07:30 UTC+1 Craig Lindholm wrote:
>
>> Yep. It would be awesome!
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:02:05 a.m. UTC-8 Susannah wrote:
>>
>>> I agree also
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-5 deug...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
 The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
 But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true 
 sophisticated life planning/insights.

 Fully agreed 

 riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 
 UTC+1:

> Yes, the due date.  
>
> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it 
> every day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products 
> were of this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has 
> everything implemented that one would need to organize their life.  
> Except 
> for *one glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>
> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain 
> for MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for 
> more. How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone 
> think 
> this is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout 
> almost 
> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are 
> an 
> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they 
> focus 
> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>
> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for 
> us and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in 
> a 
> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer 
> could 
> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has 
> good 
> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
> respect. So I just don't get it.
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>
>> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have 
>> any ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't 
>>> have to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar 
>>> that 
>>> starts at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to 
>>> another 
>>> bar dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-02-21 Thread Claude x
+++  it would be great!!!

On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:07:30 UTC+1 Craig Lindholm wrote:

> Yep. It would be awesome!
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:02:05 a.m. UTC-8 Susannah wrote:
>
>> I agree also
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-5 deug...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
>>> The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
>>> But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true sophisticated 
>>> life planning/insights.
>>>
>>> Fully agreed 
>>>
>>> riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 
>>> UTC+1:
>>>
 Yes, the due date.  

 First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it 
 every day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products 
 were of this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has 
 everything implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except 
 for *one glaring issue: Gantt charts.*

 The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain 
 for MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for 
 more. How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think 
 this is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
 Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
 any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
 incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
 project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
 that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
 on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.

 I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us 
 and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a 
 single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
 the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer 
 could 
 get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
 developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
 respect. So I just don't get it.
 On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:

> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have 
> any ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>
> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't 
>> have to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar 
>> that 
>> starts at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to 
>> another 
>> bar dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-02-02 Thread Craig Lindholm
Yep. It would be awesome!

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:02:05 a.m. UTC-8 Susannah wrote:

> I agree also
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-5 deug...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
>> The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
>> But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true sophisticated 
>> life planning/insights.
>>
>> Fully agreed 
>>
>> riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Yes, the due date.  
>>>
>>> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it every 
>>> day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products were of 
>>> this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has everything 
>>> implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except for *one 
>>> glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>>>
>>> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain 
>>> for MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for 
>>> more. How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think 
>>> this is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
>>> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
>>> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
>>> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
>>> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
>>> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
>>> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>>>
>>> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us 
>>> and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a 
>>> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
>>> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer could 
>>> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
>>> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
>>> respect. So I just don't get it.
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>>>
 I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
 ends to your bars until they’re completed. 

 On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't 
> have to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that 
> starts at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another 
> bar dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>


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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-01-23 Thread Susannah
I agree also

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:04:39 AM UTC-5 deug...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
> The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
> But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true sophisticated 
> life planning/insights.
>
> Fully agreed 
>
> riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 UTC+1:
>
>> Yes, the due date.  
>>
>> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it every 
>> day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products were of 
>> this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has everything 
>> implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except for *one 
>> glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>>
>> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain for 
>> MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for more. 
>> How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think this 
>> is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
>> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
>> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
>> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
>> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
>> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
>> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>>
>> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us 
>> and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a 
>> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
>> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer could 
>> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
>> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
>> respect. So I just don't get it.
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>>
>>> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
>>> ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't have 
 to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that 
 starts 
 at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another bar 
 dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-01-23 Thread A. W.
Gantt is truly a bottleneck!
The feature about time grouping options is a step into that direction..
But a zoomable Gantt feature would be even better for true sophisticated 
life planning/insights.

Fully agreed 

riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 UTC+1:

> Yes, the due date.  
>
> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it every 
> day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products were of 
> this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has everything 
> implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except for *one 
> glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>
> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain for 
> MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for more. 
> How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think this 
> is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>
> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us 
> and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a 
> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer could 
> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
> respect. So I just don't get it.
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>
>> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
>> ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't have 
>>> to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that starts 
>>> at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another bar 
>>> dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-01-23 Thread A. W.
And related to more feature I would recommend to really prioritize based on 
the terms ..my ..life ..organized.
藍
And avoid any other possible fancy stuff.
Related to the overall product quality... Agreed.. Best product ever. It's 
is obviously visible that the devs are using the thing themselves.
Cheers Alexander
riskc...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2023 um 21:36:40 UTC+1:

> Yes, the due date.  
>
> First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it every 
> day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products were of 
> this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has everything 
> implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except for *one 
> glaring issue: Gantt charts.*
>
> The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain for 
> MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for more. 
> How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think this 
> is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
> Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
> any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
> incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
> project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
> that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
> on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.
>
> I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us 
> and he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a 
> single afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with 
> the app and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer could 
> get that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
> developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
> respect. So I just don't get it.
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:
>
>> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
>> ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't have 
>>> to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that starts 
>>> at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another bar 
>>> dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-01-22 Thread Risk Complex
Yes, the due date.  

First of all MLO is single-handedly my favourite product. I use it every 
day.  The team at MLO has done a great job and I wish more products were of 
this quality. It's like the MLO team can read my mind and has everything 
implemented that one would need to organize their life.  Except for *one 
glaring issue: Gantt charts.*

The lack of this feature is quite honestly perplexing and a big stain for 
MLO.  I've seen the excuse given that the users would always ask for more. 
How ridiculous is that? Even if that were true, how can anyone think this 
is a good justification for not having a fundamental/basic feature? 
Displaying data in Gantt charts is something that's used throughout almost 
any organization, development team, etc, and for good reason.  They are an 
incredibly effective way to understand the most important details of a 
project at a glace, you see both the estimated start/due dates and tasks 
that depend on one another across all of your projects. Instead they focus 
on 'dashboard' and 'dark mode'? Makes no sense to me.

I had one of my junior developers implement an in-house solution for us and 
he parsed and produced a GANTT chart from the exported xml file in a single 
afternoon (~3 hours of work). Granted it is not incorporated with the app 
and has no interactivity, but even a semi-competent developer could get 
that worked out in a few days and based on what I've seen MLO has good 
developers on their end as the product is great in almost every other 
respect. So I just don't get it.
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:40:21 AM UTC-5 Stéph wrote:

> I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
> ends to your bars until they’re completed. 
>
> On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't have 
>> to be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that starts 
>> at the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another bar 
>> dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Gantt chart

2023-01-22 Thread Stéph
I think you mean ends at the due date - otherwise you wouldn’t have any 
ends to your bars until they’re completed. 

On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 23:06:29 UTC riskc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Please. For the love of god.  Implement a Gantt chart.  It doesn't have to 
> be complicated.  For v1.0 of the Gantt chart it can be a bar that starts at 
> the start date and ends at the end date and connects to another bar 
> dependency via a thin black line.  That's all.  Please.  
>

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