[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[funjul...@gmail.com]

Thank you!

There is a possibly related bug with the child filter, which I described in 
this post: https://groups.google.com/g/mylifeorganized/c/xQeltoO3DcU

and also described above:

When I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a child 
filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

"new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child is 
not a project. And everything is highlighted.

And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter for 
"isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. Its 
children are projects.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:17:06 AM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:

> i've reported the issue from this thread to support email
>
> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 21:04:25 UTC+2, Andrei Bacean: 
>
>> Here is the windows vs android behaviour.
>> It's seems that you have identified a bug.
>>
>> [image: 2021.01.26 bug.png]
>>
>> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 20:36:22 UTC+2, Andrei Bacean: 
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> *So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its 
>>> parent is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on 
>>> the characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of 
>>> the parents.*
>>>
>>> *In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
>>> opposed to what parents are shown.*
>>>
>>> sorry, it seems i was wrong.
>>> the help file says that the hierarchical filter may add parent tasks to 
>>> the tasks which we already have filtered.
>>> instead, it affects the display of the filtered tasks. strange behaviour.
>>>
>>> tested on android.
>>> android behaves differently.
>>>
>>> i will report more testing later.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 09:38:31 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>>>
 Andrei, thank you so much for the response!

>>>
 So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its 
 parent is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based 
 on 
 the characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of 
 the parents. 

 In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
 opposed to what parents are shown.

 But when I try using the same hierarchy with include parent on, and a 
 parent filter for "isFolder is true," I get the full hierarchy:

 Folder Processed
   Project new2
   Project new
 Task x

 Task x is still shown and highlighted as matching the filters, even 
 though its parent is NOT a folder.

 Why is this? It doesn't meet the condition we have set.

 And when I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a 
 child filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:

 Folder Processed
   Project new2
   Project new
 Task x

 "new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its 
 child is not a project. And everything is highlighted.

 And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter 
 for "isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 

 Folder Processed
   Project new2
   Project new
 Task x

 But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. 
 Its children are projects.

 Please help me understand how parent and child filters work!
 On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:

> hi,
>
> Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your 
> question.
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0
>
> Have a nice day
> Andrew
>
> воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>
>> ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include 
>> parent" on:
>>
>> Folder Processed
>>   Project new2
>>   Project new
>> Task x
>>
>> With hierarchy off, only the following show up:
>>
>> new2
>> x
>>
>> I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.
>>
>> But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
>> following:
>>
>> new
>>   x
>>
>> and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.
>>
>> And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing 
>> shows up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that 
>> show up in a non-hierarchical view?
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[funjul...@gmail.com]

Thank you again for your quick response! 

It doesn't look like the video got attached to your post.

The text from the guide "you can also set additional filter for these 
parent/child tasks" doesn't explain how that additional filter works.

As I understand, the parent filter filters the tasks, not the parents, and 
includes only those tasks that have some direct ancestor meeting the 
condition listed in the parent filter.

But the child filter seems to work differently - it filters the children, 
not the tasks, and doesn't seem to work consistently.

See my post https://groups.google.com/g/mylifeorganized/c/xQeltoO3DcU 
titled "Bug in the child filter," or see what I wrote above:



When I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a child 
filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

"new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child is 
not a project. And everything is highlighted.

And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter for 
"isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. Its 
children are projects.

Please help me understand how the child filters work!

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 12:32:47 AM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:

> hi
>
> Here is hierarchical definition from the mlo guide. Please take a note.
> Regarding your question, when isfolder is true, it displays the full 
> hieararchy because at the top there is a folder which matches your 
> condition. 
> Please see the attached video too, with another example.
>
> [image: 2021.01.26.PNG]
> Link to complete mlo user guide.
>
> MyLifeOrganized - Help 
> 
>  
>  
> Have a nice day
> Andrew
>
>
> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 09:38:31 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>
>> Andrei, thank you so much for the response!
>>
>> So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its 
>> parent is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on 
>> the characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of 
>> the parents. 
>>
>> In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
>> opposed to what parents are shown.
>>
>> But when I try using the same hierarchy with include parent on, and a 
>> parent filter for "isFolder is true," I get the full hierarchy:
>>
>> Folder Processed
>>   Project new2
>>   Project new
>> Task x
>>
>> Task x is still shown and highlighted as matching the filters, even 
>> though its parent is NOT a folder.
>>
>> Why is this? It doesn't meet the condition we have set.
>>
>> And when I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a 
>> child filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:
>>
>> Folder Processed
>>   Project new2
>>   Project new
>> Task x
>>
>> "new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child 
>> is not a project. And everything is highlighted.
>>
>> And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter 
>> for "isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 
>>
>> Folder Processed
>>   Project new2
>>   Project new
>> Task x
>>
>> But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. Its 
>> children are projects.
>>
>> Please help me understand how parent and child filters work!
>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your 
>>> question.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0
>>>
>>> Have a nice day
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>>>
 ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include parent" 
 on:

 Folder Processed
   Project new2
   Project new
 Task x

 With hierarchy off, only the following show up:

 new2
 x

 I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.

 But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
 following:

 new
   x

 and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.

 And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing 
 shows up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that 
 show up in a non-hierarchical view?

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[Andrei Bacean]

i've reported the issue from this thread to support email

вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 21:04:25 UTC+2, Andrei Bacean: 

> Here is the windows vs android behaviour.
> It's seems that you have identified a bug.
>
> [image: 2021.01.26 bug.png]
>
> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 20:36:22 UTC+2, Andrei Bacean: 
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> *So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its 
>> parent is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on 
>> the characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of 
>> the parents.*
>>
>> *In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
>> opposed to what parents are shown.*
>>
>> sorry, it seems i was wrong.
>> the help file says that the hierarchical filter may add parent tasks to 
>> the tasks which we already have filtered.
>> instead, it affects the display of the filtered tasks. strange behaviour.
>>
>> tested on android.
>> android behaves differently.
>>
>> i will report more testing later.
>>
>> best regards
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 09:38:31 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>>
>>> Andrei, thank you so much for the response!
>>>
>>
>>> So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its 
>>> parent is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on 
>>> the characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of 
>>> the parents. 
>>>
>>> In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
>>> opposed to what parents are shown.
>>>
>>> But when I try using the same hierarchy with include parent on, and a 
>>> parent filter for "isFolder is true," I get the full hierarchy:
>>>
>>> Folder Processed
>>>   Project new2
>>>   Project new
>>> Task x
>>>
>>> Task x is still shown and highlighted as matching the filters, even 
>>> though its parent is NOT a folder.
>>>
>>> Why is this? It doesn't meet the condition we have set.
>>>
>>> And when I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a 
>>> child filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:
>>>
>>> Folder Processed
>>>   Project new2
>>>   Project new
>>> Task x
>>>
>>> "new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child 
>>> is not a project. And everything is highlighted.
>>>
>>> And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter 
>>> for "isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 
>>>
>>> Folder Processed
>>>   Project new2
>>>   Project new
>>> Task x
>>>
>>> But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. 
>>> Its children are projects.
>>>
>>> Please help me understand how parent and child filters work!
>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:
>>>
 hi,

 Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your 
 question.


 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0

 Have a nice day
 Andrew

 воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 

> ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include 
> parent" on:
>
> Folder Processed
>   Project new2
>   Project new
> Task x
>
> With hierarchy off, only the following show up:
>
> new2
> x
>
> I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.
>
> But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
> following:
>
> new
>   x
>
> and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.
>
> And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing 
> shows up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that 
> show up in a non-hierarchical view?
>


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[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[Andrei Bacean]

Hi


*So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its parent 
is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on the 
characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of the 
parents.*

*In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
opposed to what parents are shown.*

sorry, it seems i was wrong.
the help file says that the hierarchical filter may add parent tasks to the 
tasks which we already have filtered.
instead, it affects the display of the filtered tasks. strange behaviour.

tested on android.
android behaves differently.

i will report more testing later.

best regards
Andrew





вторник, 26 января 2021 г. в 09:38:31 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 

> Andrei, thank you so much for the response!
>
> So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its parent 
> is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on the 
> characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of the 
> parents. 
>
> In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as 
> opposed to what parents are shown.
>
> But when I try using the same hierarchy with include parent on, and a 
> parent filter for "isFolder is true," I get the full hierarchy:
>
> Folder Processed
>   Project new2
>   Project new
> Task x
>
> Task x is still shown and highlighted as matching the filters, even though 
> its parent is NOT a folder.
>
> Why is this? It doesn't meet the condition we have set.
>
> And when I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a child 
> filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:
>
> Folder Processed
>   Project new2
>   Project new
> Task x
>
> "new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child 
> is not a project. And everything is highlighted.
>
> And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter for 
> "isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 
>
> Folder Processed
>   Project new2
>   Project new
> Task x
>
> But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. Its 
> children are projects.
>
> Please help me understand how parent and child filters work!
> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your question.
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0
>>
>> Have a nice day
>> Andrew
>>
>> воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>>
>>> ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include parent" 
>>> on:
>>>
>>> Folder Processed
>>>   Project new2
>>>   Project new
>>> Task x
>>>
>>> With hierarchy off, only the following show up:
>>>
>>> new2
>>> x
>>>
>>> I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.
>>>
>>> But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
>>> following:
>>>
>>> new
>>>   x
>>>
>>> and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.
>>>
>>> And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing 
>>> shows up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that 
>>> show up in a non-hierarchical view?
>>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[funjul...@gmail.com]

Andrei, thank you so much for the response!

So if I understand correctly, the reason new2 is hidden is that its parent 
is a folder, and the parent filter works by filtering tasks based on the 
characteristics of their parents, and NOT by filtering the display of the 
parents. 

In other words, the parent filter controls what tasks are shown, as opposed 
to what parents are shown.

But when I try using the same hierarchy with include parent on, and a 
parent filter for "isFolder is true," I get the full hierarchy:

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

Task x is still shown and highlighted as matching the filters, even though 
its parent is NOT a folder.

Why is this? It doesn't meet the condition we have set.

And when I try using the same hierarchy with include child on, and a child 
filter for "isProject is true," I still get the full hierarchy:

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

"new" should be hidden, because it doesn't meet the condition. Its child is 
not a project. And everything is highlighted.

And if I try the same thing, with include child on, and a child filter for 
"isProject is false," I still get the full hierarchy: 

Folder Processed
  Project new2
  Project new
Task x

But Folder Processed should be hidden. It doesn't meet the condition. Its 
children are projects.

Please help me understand how parent and child filters work!
On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-8 Andrei Bacean wrote:

> hi,
>
> Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your question.
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0
>
> Have a nice day
> Andrew
>
> воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 
>
>> ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include parent" 
>> on:
>>
>> Folder Processed
>>   Project new2
>>   Project new
>> Task x
>>
>> With hierarchy off, only the following show up:
>>
>> new2
>> x
>>
>> I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.
>>
>> But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
>> following:
>>
>> new
>>   x
>>
>> and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.
>>
>> And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing shows 
>> up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that show up 
>> in a non-hierarchical view?
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Turning parent filter on in hierarchical view hides tasks

[Andrei Bacean]

hi,

Please find attached video. Hope you can find the answer to your question.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyshooyfzizkn7v/Hierarchical%20views%20filtering.mp4?dl=0

Have a nice day
Andrew

воскресенье, 24 января 2021 г. в 11:58:11 UTC+2, funjul...@gmail.com: 

> ok, so I have the following hierarchy showing up, with "include parent" on:
>
> Folder Processed
>   Project new2
>   Project new
> Task x
>
> With hierarchy off, only the following show up:
>
> new2
> x
>
> I want the parent project "new" to show up above task x.
>
> But if I include a parent filter for "isFolder is false" I get the 
> following:
>
> new
>   x
>
> and new2 is hidden! That doesn't seem right.
>
> And if I turn off both "include parent" and "include child" nothing shows 
> up - how is that possible? Shouldn't it give me the same two that show up 
> in a non-hierarchical view?
>

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