Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
Only have a minute and haven't read everything thoroughly (on vacation) but those of you having issues have you checked that Tools--Options--Todo Ordering is not set to Hierarchical? That one bit me once. -- Lisa Stroyan www.empathic-parenting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
RE: [MLO] Problems with computed score
It took me a long time and a lot of work to get to the point where this was working for me. In my experience, there are two kinds of problems. One involves whether the display accurately reflects the computed score. If you check computed score for several tasks (in the task statistics tab) and the listing is showing them out of order, you have this problem. If you are looking at a to-do (not outline) view and if to-do ordering is set to computed score as just suggested by Lisa, then imho you have a bug and should report it as such. The other class of problem is where the computedscore does not make sense - the unimportant someday task that's sitting high in the list with a high computed score that will not go down no matter what you do, or the urgent, gotta-do-it-today task that's languishing way down under doing something about my junkmail. There are some common problems that can help, like checking if the task's parents have an unreasonable priority, or checking if something has been set too high in the tree and is distorting results when it's applied recursively at every level of the tree. But sometimes you just cannot figure it out. If that's where you are, I would humbly request that you go to the MLO forum on UserVoice and vote for my proposal to add an explanation of a task's computer score. http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/1357757-explain-why -this-task-sorts-way-up-down-here- -Dwight From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Stroyan Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:21 AM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score Only have a minute and haven't read everything thoroughly (on vacation) but those of you having issues have you checked that Tools--Options--Todo Ordering is not set to Hierarchical? That one bit me once. -- Lisa Stroyan www.empathic-parenting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
Hi, Dwight-- I posted about this elsewhere, also. I am seeing what Louisa is seeing-- something just ain't right. I have two branches-- branch A has a significantly higher priority than branch B, but all of B's tasks appear first in the To Do list (all grouped together) and then branch A's tasks appear. It is entirely counter-intuitive and counter-intention. The Computed Score for the tasks listed second (branch A) is also higher than for the tasks listed first (branch B). I created a one-off file with two branches and it had the expected behavior-- the computed score was correlated with the priorities and urgencies set. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
These are the two tasks that meet in the middle of the To Do list (all the Management\ tasks are above all of the Marketing\ tasks). In this case, the Marketing task shown is also inheriting Weekly goal (though its Marketing\ cousins listed below it are not). Management\ and Marketing\ are top-level tasks in the tree. Management itself has Importance/Urgency of roughly Normal/Less. Marketing has Importance/Urgency of More/More. The only thing this order is consistent with is their hierarchical order: Management\ comes before Marketing\ in the Outline. The numbers that follow are Calculated Scores: Importance, Urgency, and Importance Urgency. [Management\Conversati...\] - A discussion about sales protocols 1.000211251 0.999259264 0.999470359 [Marketing\Product Ma...\Pricing\All-In DUI...\Define pro...\] - Write measures for product 1.010704785 1.181140193 1.193784044 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
The two branches you mention: is the root of each branch a top-level parent or are the roots themselves subtasks of something higher? If the branch roots are -not- top-level, are they subs of the same parent or do they have different parents? If they have different parents, how do the computed scores of the parents compare? -Dwight Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Fletcher Kauffman fletcher.kauff...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:58:07 To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Reply-To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Cc: m...@grantsmiths.org Subject: Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score Hi, Dwight-- I posted about this elsewhere, also. I am seeing what Louisa is seeing-- something just ain't right. I have two branches-- branch A has a significantly higher priority than branch B, but all of B's tasks appear first in the To Do list (all grouped together) and then branch A's tasks appear. It is entirely counter-intuitive and counter-intention. The Computed Score for the tasks listed second (branch A) is also higher than for the tasks listed first (branch B). I created a one-off file with two branches and it had the expected behavior-- the computed score was correlated with the priorities and urgencies set. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
Looks like you answered my question before I asked it. But wait, you are saying that Management\ comes before Marketing\ in the **outline**? I could be wrong but I thought that ordering in outline view was based on position in the tree, and that the views that can be ordered on Calculated Score are the to-do views. Am I missing something? -Dwight Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Fletcher Kauffman fletcher.kauff...@gmail.com Sender: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:07:04 To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Reply-To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Cc: m...@grantsmiths.org Subject: Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score These are the two tasks that meet in the middle of the To Do list (all the Management\ tasks are above all of the Marketing\ tasks). In this case, the Marketing task shown is also inheriting Weekly goal (though its Marketing\ cousins listed below it are not). Management\ and Marketing\ are top-level tasks in the tree. Management itself has Importance/Urgency of roughly Normal/Less. Marketing has Importance/Urgency of More/More. The only thing this order is consistent with is their hierarchical order: Management\ comes before Marketing\ in the Outline. The numbers that follow are Calculated Scores: Importance, Urgency, and Importance Urgency. [Management\Conversati...\] - A discussion about sales protocols 1.000211251 0.999259264 0.999470359 [Marketing\Product Ma...\Pricing\All-In DUI...\Define pro...\] - Write measures for product 1.010704785 1.181140193 1.193784044 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Problems with computed score
Hi Louisa. I can help with a couple of your issues. In many task management systems, urgency and importance are set relative to everything else in your database. In MLO, urgency and importance are set relative to the task's immediate parent. That makes assignment of priorities easier once you get the hang of it, you only have to ask how important order pads and pens is to present project plans to client not how important it is to everything in your life. Thus, a task with the highest possible urgency and importance can be low in your to-do list if it's just the most important task in an unimportant segment of an inconsequential project. Start at the top and make sure that all of your top-level parents have the right levels of urgency and importance with respect to each other. Then pick one of them and do the right thing with its subtasks. There are other factors like approaching due dates and weekly goals but generally this should help get your tasks into a better order. About the projects where only the first task appears: In a default project, every task is available to be done next. If certain tasks need to be done in order, dependencies are used to set it up. There's a shortcut: if you check the complete subtasks in order checkbox, only the first task will be considered available to be done next. When the first task is completed the second will become available. If your to-do view is filtered on available tasks (versus all tasks) that would make all the subtasks after the first disappear. -Dwight Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Louisa Wood louisa.w...@unep-wcmc.org Sender: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:38:54 To: MyLifeOrganizedmylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Reply-To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Problems with computed score Hi there I am new to using MLO and am having trouble with the order in which my to-do list is generated using the computed score. For example, I have a task showing up as 3rd in the to-do list, whose deadline is in 9 days and whose importance and urgency is set to normal. Meanwhile, I have a task showing up as 6th in the to-do list, whose deadline is 15 days ago and whose importance and urgency is set to max. This is completely counter-intuitive, as I haven't got any of the other settings any different. How is it possible that the computed score could be ordering the tasks like this?! My to-do list is sorted by computer score only, and grouped by project. I just tried moving the position of a project up in my to-do list, to put it above the less important, less urgent task, and it has now disappeared (!). What on earth?! I am also finding that in some (but not all) projects, sub-tasks are showing up in my to-do list in the order that they were entered (even though I don't have that checkbox checked), rather than by computed importance. My to-do list for some (but not all) projects is also only showing one subtask at a time, rather than multiple. This is in the case of a 'general email follow up' project I have set up, with a discrete list of follow up emails I need to send. Some of these are more important than others, but a) only the first one in the list shows up in my to do list and b) it isn't the most important in the list, or the one with the most pressing deadline. What am I doing wrong? I really want to use this software but I must admit I am not finding it to live up to expecations or the reviews so far. Please help! Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
