Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[Smith, John]

I thought you were wanting to insert a new task at the top of the current
layer in the hierarchy of tasks - i.e. before the first task, no?

Have you tried those keystrokes?

Left-Arrow take focus to the parent of the current task.
Alt+Insert insert a task immediately under the parent i.e. the new task is
inserted before the first task.

So in 3 keystrokes you now have a new task added to the top of the current
layer of tasks. It works from whichever position you are at, within any
given layer of your hierarchy, including when the current task is the first.

J



On 24 November 2016 at 16:48, birdv...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Hi John.
>
> Maybe I didn't understand your approach. When you say:
>
> "Try
> left arrow, (moves focus to parent, and then)
> Alt+Insert  (creates a child immediately under the parent"
>
> It appears that you are inserting a sub item.
>
> In my scenario, you have a bunch a list of items. You want insert an item
> above the top item with minimal steps.
>
> It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing.
>
> ...
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:03 AM Smith, John  wrote:
>
>> Eddie
>>
>> I am confused. Did you find a way other than what I described to insert
>> and item at the top of the currently list?
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> On 22 November 2016 at 15:27, birdv...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Thank you for that insight. But inserting a sub-task has not been a
>> problem. What stumped me over a year ago is inserting a task above the the
>> current item, when that item is at the very top of the list.
>>
>> So I'm glad I now have a way to do that.
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eddie
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>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:32 AM, John . Smith  wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you want to get to the top of your current hierarchy layer and insert
>> a task there try:
>>
>> Try
>> left arrow, (moves focus to parent, and then)
>> Alt+Insert  (creates a child immediately under the parent)
>>
>> J
>>
>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[birdv...@gmail.com]

 Hi John.

Maybe I didn't understand your approach. When you say:

"Try
left arrow, (moves focus to parent, and then)
Alt+Insert  (creates a child immediately under the parent"

It appears that you are inserting a sub item.

In my scenario, you have a bunch a list of items. You want insert an item
above the top item with minimal steps.

It doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing.

...

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:03 AM Smith, John  wrote:

> Eddie
>
> I am confused. Did you find a way other than what I described to insert
> and item at the top of the currently list?
>
> J
>
>
> On 22 November 2016 at 15:27, birdv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thank you for that insight. But inserting a sub-task has not been a
> problem. What stumped me over a year ago is inserting a task above the the
> current item, when that item is at the very top of the list.
>
> So I'm glad I now have a way to do that.
>
> Eddie
>
> Thanks,
> Eddie
> ---
> 818 338-6061
> Skype: major.billion
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:32 AM, John . Smith  wrote:
>
>
> If you want to get to the top of your current hierarchy layer and insert a
> task there try:
>
> Try
> left arrow, (moves focus to parent, and then)
> Alt+Insert  (creates a child immediately under the parent)
>
> J
>
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[Smith, John]

Eddie

I am confused. Did you find a way other than what I described to insert and
item at the top of the currently list?

J


On 22 November 2016 at 15:27, birdv...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thank you for that insight. But inserting a sub-task has not been a
> problem. What stumped me over a year ago is inserting a task above the the
> current item, when that item is at the very top of the list.
>
> So I'm glad I now have a way to do that.
>
> Eddie
>
> Thanks,
> Eddie
> ---
> 818 338-6061
> Skype: major.billion
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:32 AM, John . Smith  wrote:
>
>>
>> If you want to get to the top of your current hierarchy layer and insert
>> a task there try:
>>
>> Try
>> left arrow, (moves focus to parent, and then)
>> Alt+Insert  (creates a child immediately under the parent)
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[birdv...@gmail.com]

Even better!!!
 up

Thanks,
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:14 AM, birdv...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Correction. You actually to click another MLO tab before the focus goes
> away.
>
> Thanks,
> Eddie
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> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:11 AM, birdv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> ​Hi, guys...this morning, well over a year after I posed this question: ​
>>
>> *"Let's say that I have a task that is currently selected. What is the
>> hotkey command that creates a task above it?"*
>>
>> ...I stumbled onto the solution.
>>
>> 1) Click any object on MLO, other than a task. For example, you click the
>> border above the menus.
>> 2) Focus goes away from the tasks.
>> 3) Now when hit the "Insert" key, the next task is creative at the very
>> top by default.
>>
>> Many people probably do this without thinking about. I've probably done
>> it hundreds of times without consciously realizing it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eddie
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>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Andrei Bacean 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roman
>>> Maybe Alt+Insert will work for you.
>>> Also here is a handy website for mlo shortcuts
>>>
>>> http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/MyLifeOrganized.html
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[birdv...@gmail.com]

Correction. You actually to click another MLO tab before the focus goes
away.

Thanks,
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:11 AM, birdv...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> ​Hi, guys...this morning, well over a year after I posed this question: ​
>
> *"Let's say that I have a task that is currently selected. What is the
> hotkey command that creates a task above it?"*
>
> ...I stumbled onto the solution.
>
> 1) Click any object on MLO, other than a task. For example, you click the
> border above the menus.
> 2) Focus goes away from the tasks.
> 3) Now when hit the "Insert" key, the next task is creative at the very
> top by default.
>
> Many people probably do this without thinking about. I've probably done it
> hundreds of times without consciously realizing it.
>
> Thanks,
> Eddie
> ---
> 818 338-6061
> Skype: major.billion
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Andrei Bacean 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Roman
>> Maybe Alt+Insert will work for you.
>> Also here is a handy website for mlo shortcuts
>>
>> http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/MyLifeOrganized.html
>>
>> Andrei
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for "Insert task above current selected task"

[birdv...@gmail.com]

​Hi, guys...this morning, well over a year after I posed this question: ​

*"Let's say that I have a task that is currently selected. What is the
hotkey command that creates a task above it?"*

...I stumbled onto the solution.

1) Click any object on MLO, other than a task. For example, you click the
border above the menus.
2) Focus goes away from the tasks.
3) Now when hit the "Insert" key, the next task is creative at the very top
by default.

Many people probably do this without thinking about. I've probably done it
hundreds of times without consciously realizing it.

Thanks,
Eddie
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wrote:

> Hi Roman
> Maybe Alt+Insert will work for you.
> Also here is a handy website for mlo shortcuts
>
> http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/MyLifeOrganized.html
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

[Andrei Bacean]

Hi Roman
Maybe Alt+Insert will work for you.
Also here is a handy website for mlo shortcuts

http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/MyLifeOrganized.html

Andrei

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

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Yea, I don't know.  Looks like there was a blog post in 2013.  I was still 
using the Windows version up until a couple years ago when it started 
giving my problems.  Then I used Freeplane.  Now MLO, because it syncs with 
Android.  There are a couple of other old timey Bonsai users here on this 
forum too.  :-}

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

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This have evolved quite a bit. Recently I decided to get a smart watch. The
irony is that, the main reason is so that I don't have to look at my iPhone
as much.

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 Yea, I don't know.  Looks like there was a blog post in 2013.  I was still
 using the Windows version up until a couple years ago when it started
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 Android.  There are a couple of other old timey Bonsai users here on this
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

[Roman Romanik]

Hi, Baddr

I looks interesting, but it doesn't work in my case and I don't see such a 
command being mentioned in the User Guide or elsewhere. 

Cheers,
Roman

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 8:33:36 PM UTC+3, Baddr el Din wrote:

 Maybe following works for you: 

 Use Shift - Insert (German: Umschalt - Einfg) for creating a subtask of 
 the parent

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

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Maybe following works for you:

Use Shift - Insert (German: Umschalt - Einfg) for creating a subtask of the 
parent

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

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Hi, thx Baddr.

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 Maybe following works for you:

 Use Shift - Insert (German: Umschalt - Einfg) for creating a subtask of
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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

[Steve Kunkel]

Here we go... 
Insert type blah blah Enter, then Shift+Alt+UpArrow...

As a side note, my MLO prefs indicate that Ctrl+Alt+M is the key for manual 
sort.  However on my Lenovo R61, Ctrl+Alt+M+Up also seems to be the hotkey 
for flipping my screen display 180 degrees.  LOL.  

Also side note:  Did you used to use Natara Bonsai?  I think it might have 
had an actual command for insert above.

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

[birdv...@gmail.com]

Hi Steve. thanks...Yeah that's been what I've doing. I was just hoping
there was a way to directly open a new task above the current one.

*I hope the folks at MLO will consider adding a hotkey for. Surely I'm not
the only one that wants to insert a task a task that is at the top of a
list. *

And...amazingly -- yes I did use Natara Bonsai. And yes, that may be from
where I remember there was such a command.

Wow...that certainly brings back memories.

I just checked their website...do you know if they're out of business?

Thanks,
Eddie


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Steve Kunkel kunkel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here we go...
 Insert type blah blah Enter, then Shift+Alt+UpArrow...

 As a side note, my MLO prefs indicate that Ctrl+Alt+M is the key for
 manual sort.  However on my Lenovo R61, Ctrl+Alt+M+Up also seems to be the
 hotkey for flipping my screen display 180 degrees.  LOL.

 Also side note:  Did you used to use Natara Bonsai?  I think it might have
 had an actual command for insert above.

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Re: [MLO] Re: Hotkey question for MLO old-timers for Insert task above current selected task

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No, because the exact situation I deal with almost every day is that I want
to insert a new item ABOVE the CURRENT TOP ITEM of a list.







On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Steve Kunkel kunkel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Can you do plain old Arrow Up then Insert ?

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