Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[funjul...@gmail.com]

 
I was thinking hierarchy on meant that you would see all hierarchical 
relations between the items shown, not just immediate ones. That is, 
everything "in between" the items that pass through the primary filter.

But I see your point about turning off both children and parents being the 
same as turning off hierarchy, in which case there shouldn't even be a 
separate option for it. And I can understand the interpretation of case 5 
where you get the result:

outside
one
four

Right now, turning off both children and parents while leaving hierarchy on 
does something else, and I'm not sure what that is or whether that was 
intended. The actual results of doing this seem bizarre.



I'm really less concerned with that issue and more concerned with the issue 
of parent filters, which is a very frustrating bug.

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 1:04:17 PM UTC-8 Dwight wrote:

> I agree that documentation should be better.
>
> I agree that I cannot cite any logical interpretation or interpolation of 
> the filtering rules that would explain what you cite as actual behavior
>
> I'm also not certain that I can follow what you cite as expected behavior
>
> For example in your case five. My understanding, up until now, was that 
> the primary filter would pass tasks outside, one and four, which are the 
> only tasks with text tag including "c". Because parent and child are off, 
> no additional tasks would be included. There are no immediate hierarchical 
> relations between outside, one or four so they would each be treated as a 
> root, and the result would be
>
> outside
> one
> four
>
> I do not understand why you would expect two and three to be displayed.
>
> Let me go back to what I thought before I started reading your emails. 
> Consider that many people have trouble understanding advanced filters 
> because they think of them as a list of things to be excluded when they are 
> in fact a list of things to be included. Similarly, I thought of a default 
> for hierarchies as having children and parents included and unfiltered, and 
> that any change you make from that point is for the purpose of excluding 
> something. That way, if you excluded both parents and children, the result 
> would be the same as turning off hierarchy. It's kind of a meaningless 
> "exclude everything" command, akin to when the teacher taking attendance 
> says "everyone who is absent today please raise your hand". I see from your 
> work that there is a purpose to excluding both but I do not yet have a 
> clear vision of what that would be, so I will step back and wait for a 
> response from support.
>
> -Dwight
> On 1/24/2021 14:02, funjul...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> For those specific examples, I would expect the same thing with "hierarchy 
> off" and "hierarchy on with parent and child off". Sometimes different 
> combinations of settings will happen to give you the same results.
>
> You are correct that the bug disappears with hierarchy off - but the bug 
> is still there with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" and it's still 
> a problem.
>
> If your point is that my expectations of "hierarchy on with parent and 
> child off" are wrong, I would just say that this isn't clearly documented, 
> and what you do in fact see with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" 
> is very strange. 
>
> For instance, in case 1, why does "red top" remain but "blue middle" and 
> "green bottom" go away? There does not seem to be any good explanation for 
> this, and I don't believe anyone would expect this outcome. Can you 
> describe a simple rule that would explain it?
>
> > Could you enhance your example to show what you expect from "hierarchy 
> on with parent and child off" that's different from "hierarchy off"? 
>
> Sure, here you go:
>
> Hierarchy:
>
> outside (text tag: abcd)  
> one (text tag: ac)  
>  two (text tag: ad)  
>   three (text tag: bd)  
>four (text tag: bc)  
>
>
> Case 4: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent and 
> child off:  
>
> What you should get:  
>
> outside
> three
>  four
>
>
> What you do get:  
>
> outside
>
> Case 5: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent and 
> child off:  
>
> What you should get:  
>
> outside
> one
>  two
>   three
>four
>
> What you do get:  
>
> outside
> one
>
> Case 6: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on, parent and 
> child off:  
>
> What you should get:  
>   
> outside
> two
>  three
>
> What you do get:  
>
> outside 
>
> Case 7: With advanced filter for text tag a, hierarchy on, parent ON, 
> child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 
>
> What you should get:  
>   
> outside
> one
>  two
>
> What you do get: nothing
>
> Case 8: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent ON, 
> child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 
>
> What you should get:  
>   
> outside
> one
>  two
>
> What you do get: nothing
>
> Case 9: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent ON, 
> child 

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[Dwight Arthur]

  
  
I agree that documentation should be better.
I agree that I cannot cite any logical interpretation or
  interpolation of the filtering rules that would explain what you
  cite as actual behavior
I'm also not certain that I can follow what you cite as expected
  behavior
For example in your case five. My understanding, up until now,
  was that the primary filter would pass tasks outside, one and
  four, which are the only tasks with text tag including "c".
  Because parent and child are off, no additional tasks would be
  included. There are no immediate hierarchical relations between
  outside, one or four so they would each be treated as a root, and
  the result would be
outside
  one
  four
I do not understand why you would expect two and three to be
  displayed.
Let me go back to what I thought before I started reading your
  emails. Consider that many people have trouble understanding
  advanced filters because they think of them as a list of things to
  be excluded when they are in fact a list of things to be included.
  Similarly, I thought of a default for hierarchies as having
  children and parents included and unfiltered, and that any change
  you make from that point is for the purpose of excluding
  something. That way, if you excluded both parents and children,
  the result would be the same as turning off hierarchy. It's kind
  of a meaningless "exclude everything" command, akin to when the
  teacher taking attendance says "everyone who is absent today
  please raise your hand". I see from your work that there is a
  purpose to excluding both but I do not yet have a clear vision of
  what that would be, so I will step back and wait for a response
  from support.
-Dwight

On 1/24/2021 14:02, funjul...@gmail.com
  wrote:


  
  For those specific examples, I would expect the same thing
with "hierarchy off" and "hierarchy on with parent and child
off". Sometimes different combinations of settings will happen
to give you the same results.
  
  
  
  You are correct that the bug disappears with hierarchy off -
but the bug is still there with "hierarchy on with parent and
child off" and it's still a problem.
  
  
  If your point is that my expectations of "hierarchy on with
parent and child off" are wrong, I would just say that this
isn't clearly documented, and what you do in fact see with
"hierarchy on with parent and child off" is very strange. 
  
  
  
  For instance, in case 1, why does "red top" remain but "blue
middle" and "green bottom" go away? There does not seem to be
any good explanation for this, and I don't believe anyone would
expect this outcome. Can you describe a simple rule that would
explain it?
  
  
  > Could you enhance your example to show what you expect
from "hierarchy on with parent and child off" that's different
from "hierarchy off"? 
  
  
  
  Sure, here you go:
  
  
  Hierarchy:
  
  
  outside (text tag: abcd)  
  one (text tag: ac)  
   two (text tag: ad)  
    three (text tag: bd)  
     four (text tag: bc)  
  
  
  
  
  
  Case 4: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on,
parent and child off:  
  
  
  
  
What you should get:  




  outside
  three
   four




What you do get:  



outside

  
  
  
  Case 5: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on,
parent and child off:  
  
  
  
  
What you should get:  



outside
one
 two
  three
   four



What you do get:  



outside
one

  
  
  
  Case 6: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on,
parent and child off:  
  
  
  
  
What you should get:  

  


  outside
  two
   three



What you do get:  
  
  
  
   outside 
  
  
  
   Case 7: With advanced filter for text tag a, hierarchy on,
parent ON, child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 
  
  
  
  

  What you should get:  
  
    
  
  
outside
one
 two


  
  What you do get: nothing
  
  
  
 Case 8: 

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[funjul...@gmail.com]

For those specific examples, I would expect the same thing with "hierarchy 
off" and "hierarchy on with parent and child off". Sometimes different 
combinations of settings will happen to give you the same results.

You are correct that the bug disappears with hierarchy off - but the bug is 
still there with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" and it's still a 
problem.

If your point is that my expectations of "hierarchy on with parent and 
child off" are wrong, I would just say that this isn't clearly documented, 
and what you do in fact see with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" 
is very strange. 

For instance, in case 1, why does "red top" remain but "blue middle" and 
"green bottom" go away? There does not seem to be any good explanation for 
this, and I don't believe anyone would expect this outcome. Can you 
describe a simple rule that would explain it?

> Could you enhance your example to show what you expect from "hierarchy on 
with parent and child off" that's different from "hierarchy off"? 

Sure, here you go:

Hierarchy:

outside (text tag: abcd)  
one (text tag: ac)  
 two (text tag: ad)  
  three (text tag: bd)  
   four (text tag: bc)  


Case 4: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent and child 
off:  

What you should get:  

outside
three
 four


What you do get:  

outside

Case 5: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent and child 
off:  

What you should get:  

outside
one
 two
  three
   four

What you do get:  

outside
one

Case 6: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on, parent and child 
off:  

What you should get:  
  
outside
two
 three

What you do get:  

outside 

Case 7: With advanced filter for text tag a, hierarchy on, parent ON, child 
off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 

What you should get:  
  
outside
one
 two

What you do get: nothing

Case 8: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent ON, child 
off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 

What you should get:  
  
outside
one
 two

What you do get: nothing

Case 9: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent ON, child 
off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 

What you should get:  
  
outside
one
 two
  three
   four

What you do get: nothing

Case 10: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on, parent ON, 
child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': 

What you should get:  
  
outside
three
 four

What you do get: nothing

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 10:05:08 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote:

> Hi, Julie(?)
>
> Re the third example, I do not have time to reproduce and explore this 
> right now. Maybe one of the other users will, or maybe Support will explain 
> it to us.
>
> For the other two examples, my comment is that if you replaced "hierarchy 
> on with parent and child off" with "hierarchy off" it looks to me as though 
> you would get the desired results. Could you enhance your example to show 
> what you expect from "hierarchy on with parent and child off" that's 
> different from "hierarchy off"?
>
> -Dwight
> On 1/24/2021 11:08, funjul...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks! Here's the email I sent to support. I'll probably make yet another 
> post for it, asking people if they can reproduce it and if they agree it's 
> a bug.
>
> - - -
>
> I love MLO, but I am having trouble because there are several bugs with 
> the hierarchy displays, which makes it hard for me to use the full power of 
> the software.  
>
> The following example shows the bugs clearly:  
>
> red top (text tag: x)  
>  red middle  
>   red bottom 
> blue top (text tag: z)  
>  blue middle (text tag: xy)  
>   blue bottom 
> green top (text tag: z)  
>  green middle  
>   green bottom (text tag: xy)   
>
> 1. With advanced filter for text tag x, hierarchy on, parent and child 
> off:   
>
> What you should get:  
>
> red top 
> blue middle 
> green bottom  
>
> What you do get:  
>
> red top
>
> 2. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent and child 
> off:  
>
> What you should get:  
>
> blue middle 
> green bottom  
>
> What you do get: nothing
>
> 3. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent on, child 
> off, parent filter "text tag does not contain z"  
>
> What you should get:  
>
> blue middle 
> green middle 
> green bottom   
>
> What you do get:  
>
> green middle 
> green bottom  
>
> Thank you so much! I really hope this can be fixed soon because the 
> program is amazing and it would be just what I needed with this bug fixed
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote:
>
>> Hi, Julie (Sorry if you are not Julie, you didn't sign your post and 
>> that's the closest I could find to a name)
>>
>> You have submitted four posts talking about an issue with a filtered 
>> hierarchy. It's clear that you are trying to accomplish something that you 
>> consider simple and that you are extraordinarily frustrated about the 
>> difficulties you have encountered. I'm pretty good 

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[Dwight Arthur]

  
  
Hi, Julie(?)
Re the third example, I do not have time to reproduce and explore
  this right now. Maybe one of the other users will, or maybe
  Support will explain it to us.
For the other two examples, my comment is that if you replaced
  "hierarchy on with parent and child off" with "hierarchy off" it
  looks to me as though you would get the desired results. Could you
  enhance your example to show what you expect from "hierarchy on
  with parent and child off" that's different from "hierarchy off"?
-Dwight

On 1/24/2021 11:08, funjul...@gmail.com
  wrote:


  
  Thanks! Here's the email I sent to support. I'll probably
make yet another post for it, asking people if they can
reproduce it and if they agree it's a bug.
  
  
  - - -
  
  
  
  I love MLO, but I am having trouble because there are several
bugs with the hierarchy displays, which makes it hard for me to
use the full power of the software.  
  
  
  
  The following example shows the bugs clearly:  
  
  
  
  red top (text tag: x) 

  
   red middle 

  
    red bottom 
  
  blue top (text tag: z) 

  
   blue middle (text tag: xy) 

  
    blue bottom 
  
  green top (text tag: z) 

  
   green middle 

  
    green bottom (text tag: xy)   
  
  
  
  1. With advanced filter for text tag x, hierarchy on, parent
and child off:   
  
  
  
  What you should get:  
  
  
  
  red top 
  
  blue middle 
  
  green bottom  
  
  
  
  What you do get:  
  
  
  
  red top    
  
  
  
  2. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent
and child off:  
  
  
  
  What you should get:  
  
  
  
  blue middle 
  
  green bottom  
  
  
  
  What you do get: nothing    
  
  
  
  3. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent
on, child off, parent filter "text tag does not contain z"  
  
  
  
  What you should get:  
  
  
  
  blue middle 
  
  green middle 
  
  green bottom   
  
  
  
  What you do get:  
  
  
  
  green middle 
  
  green bottom  
  
  
  
  Thank you so much! I really hope this can be fixed soon
because the program is amazing and it would be just what I
needed with this bug fixed
  
  
On Sunday, January 24, 2021
  at 7:58:38 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote:


  
Hi, Julie (Sorry if you are not Julie, you didn't sign
  your post and that's the closest I could find to a name)
You have submitted four posts talking about an issue with
  a filtered hierarchy. It's clear that you are trying to
  accomplish something that you consider simple and that you
  are extraordinarily frustrated about the difficulties you
  have encountered. I'm pretty good at this and I can not
  quite figure out what went wrong, or what you are trying
  to do. Your emails have some discussions of your own
  issue, some quotes from old emails I have sent to several
  other people and my examples, and some of the problem
  statements from the other users I was writing to. Put it
  all together and it's too confusing for me to figure out.
  Maybe a different reader gets it, but if not I will try to
  work it through with you if you like.
First, let me try and guess what your actual issue is. My
  guess is:

  When you have a filtered list of tasks and also have
  "include parents" turned on, that a task that passes
  the main filter but that does not have any parent is
  not included.

If this is the issue, let me know and I will help you
  report it. If fixing this would not be enough to fix your
  problem, then please write a new email that demonstrates
  the problem. Leave out all the references to previous
  conversations and theories about the cause, just provide
  these four things:

  A small hierarchy, as simple as you can make it but
still sufficient to show the problem. If task properties
that play a role are not visible (context, deadline,
goal, etc) include them in your message
  A description of a view/filter that illustrates the

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[funjul...@gmail.com]

Thanks! Here's the email I sent to support. I'll probably make yet another 
post for it, asking people if they can reproduce it and if they agree it's 
a bug.

- - -

I love MLO, but I am having trouble because there are several bugs with the 
hierarchy displays, which makes it hard for me to use the full power of the 
software.  

The following example shows the bugs clearly:  

red top (text tag: x)  
 red middle  
  red bottom 
blue top (text tag: z)  
 blue middle (text tag: xy)  
  blue bottom 
green top (text tag: z)  
 green middle  
  green bottom (text tag: xy)   

1. With advanced filter for text tag x, hierarchy on, parent and child 
off:   

What you should get:  

red top 
blue middle 
green bottom  

What you do get:  

red top

2. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent and child 
off:  

What you should get:  

blue middle 
green bottom  

What you do get: nothing

3. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent on, child off, 
parent filter "text tag does not contain z"  

What you should get:  

blue middle 
green middle 
green bottom   

What you do get:  

green middle 
green bottom  

Thank you so much! I really hope this can be fixed soon because the program 
is amazing and it would be just what I needed with this bug fixed

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote:

> Hi, Julie (Sorry if you are not Julie, you didn't sign your post and 
> that's the closest I could find to a name)
>
> You have submitted four posts talking about an issue with a filtered 
> hierarchy. It's clear that you are trying to accomplish something that you 
> consider simple and that you are extraordinarily frustrated about the 
> difficulties you have encountered. I'm pretty good at this and I can not 
> quite figure out what went wrong, or what you are trying to do. Your emails 
> have some discussions of your own issue, some quotes from old emails I have 
> sent to several other people and my examples, and some of the problem 
> statements from the other users I was writing to. Put it all together and 
> it's too confusing for me to figure out. Maybe a different reader gets it, 
> but if not I will try to work it through with you if you like.
>
> First, let me try and guess what your actual issue is. My guess is:
>
> *When you have a filtered list of tasks and also have "include parents" 
> turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but that does not have 
> any parent is not included.*
>
> If this is the issue, let me know and I will help you report it. If fixing 
> this would not be enough to fix your problem, then please write a new email 
> that demonstrates the problem. Leave out all the references to previous 
> conversations and theories about the cause, just provide these four things:
>
>- A small hierarchy, as simple as you can make it but still sufficient 
>to show the problem. If task properties that play a role are not visible 
>(context, deadline, goal, etc) include them in your message 
>- A description of a view/filter that illustrates the issue. The view 
>should be as simple as possible. Please describe ALL filters and 
>specifications that you are setting in the view 
>- A sample of the listing you want to get 
>- A sample of the listing that you actually get 
>
>
> OK?
>
> -Dwight
> On 1/24/2021 00:06, funjul...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I am struggling with this bug as well and hope that we can get this fixed. 
> Parent and child filters should work in a clear, consistent way, not 
> sometimes randomly decide to exclude tasks that pass the main filters.
>
> Happy to help report this.
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-8 Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
>> Hi, Kjell.
>>
>> This goes back quite a while and I may not be recalling it 100% correctly 
>> but I will do my best.
>> I believe that when you have a filtered list of tasks and also have 
>> "include parents" turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but 
>> that does not have any parent is not included. I seem to recall one person 
>> a couple of years ago who reported this. I believe that there was some 
>> discussion, the final outcome of which was that this was by design and that 
>> the user should create a parent for the task in question.
>>
>> Would this response help you? If not, we could work together to report 
>> this as a bug to the developers, and see if the result is any different 
>> this time around - maybe they would fix it. Let me know if you want to take 
>> this forward.
>> -Dwight
>> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
>> On 2/24/2016 10:13 AM, kjell moens wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, but it does not change anything
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:38:30 PM UTC+2, pottster wrote: 
>>>
>>> Try changing Show Actions from Available to All
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:55:50 UTC, kjell moens wrote: 

 Hi, 

 I have a predefined structure in MLO (see screenshot 1), but 

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[Dwight Arthur]

  
  
Hi, Julie (Sorry if you are not Julie, you didn't sign your post
  and that's the closest I could find to a name)
You have submitted four posts talking about an issue with a
  filtered hierarchy. It's clear that you are trying to accomplish
  something that you consider simple and that you are
  extraordinarily frustrated about the difficulties you have
  encountered. I'm pretty good at this and I can not quite figure
  out what went wrong, or what you are trying to do. Your emails
  have some discussions of your own issue, some quotes from old
  emails I have sent to several other people and my examples, and
  some of the problem statements from the other users I was writing
  to. Put it all together and it's too confusing for me to figure
  out. Maybe a different reader gets it, but if not I will try to
  work it through with you if you like.
First, let me try and guess what your actual issue is. My guess
  is:

  When you have a filtered list of tasks and also have
  "include parents" turned on, that a task that passes the main
  filter but that does not have any parent is not included.

If this is the issue, let me know and I will help you report it.
  If fixing this would not be enough to fix your problem, then
  please write a new email that demonstrates the problem. Leave out
  all the references to previous conversations and theories about
  the cause, just provide these four things:

  A small hierarchy, as simple as you can make it but still
sufficient to show the problem. If task properties that play a
role are not visible (context, deadline, goal, etc) include them
in your message
  A description of a view/filter that illustrates the issue. The
view should be as simple as possible. Please describe ALL
filters and specifications that you are setting in the view
  A sample of the listing you want to get
  A sample of the listing that you actually get



OK?
-Dwight

On 1/24/2021 00:06, funjul...@gmail.com
  wrote:


  
  I am struggling with this bug as well and hope that we can
get this fixed. Parent and child filters should work in a clear,
consistent way, not sometimes randomly decide to exclude tasks
that pass the main filters.
  
  
  Happy to help report this.
  
  
  
On Thursday, February 25,
  2016 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-8 Dwight Arthur wrote:


   Hi, Kjell.

This goes back quite a while and I may not be recalling it
100% correctly but I will do my best.
I believe that when you have a filtered list of tasks and
also have "include parents" turned on, that a task that
passes the main filter but that does not have any parent is
not included. I seem to recall one person a couple of years
ago who reported this. I believe that there was some
discussion, the final outcome of which was that this was by
design and that the user should create a parent for the task
in question.

Would this response help you? If not, we could work together
to report this as a bug to the developers, and see if the
result is any different this time around - maybe they would
fix it. Let me know if you want to take this forward.
-Dwight
  MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
  
  
On 2/24/2016 10:13 AM, kjell moens wrote:

  
  

  Thanks, but it does not change anything

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:38:30 PM UTC+2,
pottster wrote:

  Try changing Show Actions from
Available to All

On Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:55:50 UTC, kjell
moens wrote:

  Hi,


I have a predefined structure in MLO (see
  screenshot 1), but when in the todo view, I
  set "Show Hierarchy" to yes and set a parent
  filter (screen shot 2), the folders are no
  longer shown but neither is the root task
  (screen shot 3). The other structures, like
  goals are shown


Can someone help me 


Thx
  

  

  

Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[funjul...@gmail.com]

I am struggling with this bug as well and hope that we can get this fixed. 
Parent and child filters should work in a clear, consistent way, not 
sometimes randomly decide to exclude tasks that pass the main filters.

Happy to help report this.

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-8 Dwight Arthur wrote:

> Hi, Kjell.
>
> This goes back quite a while and I may not be recalling it 100% correctly 
> but I will do my best.
> I believe that when you have a filtered list of tasks and also have 
> "include parents" turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but 
> that does not have any parent is not included. I seem to recall one person 
> a couple of years ago who reported this. I believe that there was some 
> discussion, the final outcome of which was that this was by design and that 
> the user should create a parent for the task in question.
>
> Would this response help you? If not, we could work together to report 
> this as a bug to the developers, and see if the result is any different 
> this time around - maybe they would fix it. Let me know if you want to take 
> this forward.
> -Dwight
> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
> On 2/24/2016 10:13 AM, kjell moens wrote:
>
> Thanks, but it does not change anything
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:38:30 PM UTC+2, pottster wrote: 
>>
>> Try changing Show Actions from Available to All
>>
>> On Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:55:50 UTC, kjell moens wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>> I have a predefined structure in MLO (see screenshot 1), but when in the 
>>> todo view, I set "Show Hierarchy" to yes and set a parent filter (screen 
>>> shot 2), the folders are no longer shown but neither is the root task 
>>> (screen shot 3). The other structures, like goals are shown
>>>
>>> Can someone help me 
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Outline filtering does not seem to work correctly

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Kjell.

This goes back quite a while and I may not be recalling it 100% 
correctly but I will do my best.
I believe that when you have a filtered list of tasks and also have 
"include parents" turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but 
that does not have any parent is not included. I seem to recall one 
person a couple of years ago who reported this. I believe that there was 
some discussion, the final outcome of which was that this was by design 
and that the user should create a parent for the task in question.


Would this response help you? If not, we could work together to report 
this as a bug to the developers, and see if the result is any different 
this time around - maybe they would fix it. Let me know if you want to 
take this forward.

-Dwight
MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2
On 2/24/2016 10:13 AM, kjell moens wrote:

Thanks, but it does not change anything

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:38:30 PM UTC+2, pottster wrote:

Try changing Show Actions from Available to All

On Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:55:50 UTC, kjell moens wrote:

Hi,

I have a predefined structure in MLO (see screenshot 1), but
when in the todo view, I set "Show Hierarchy" to yes and set a
parent filter (screen shot 2), the folders are no longer shown
but neither is the root task (screen shot 3). The other
structures, like goals are shown

Can someone help me

Thx

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