Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 22.03.2016 um 02:05 schrieb Jan Steinman:

please refrain from answering when you have no clue how DNS blacklists are 
working and what about others are talking


Well, excuse me! Someone put on their bossy pants this morning!

A simple “That’s not what’s going on here” would have been much nicer


deserved by what when one is answering to a over days ongoing thread 
without read what's topic?




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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Jan Steinman]

> please refrain from answering when you have no clue how DNS blacklists are 
> working and what about others are talking

Well, excuse me! Someone put on their bossy pants this morning!

A simple “That’s not what’s going on here” would have been much nicer.

J


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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.03.2016 um 20:22 schrieb Reindl Harald:



Am 20.03.2016 um 20:16 schrieb Jan Steinman:

From: Reindl Harald 
Date: 17 March 2016 at 06:27:22 PDT

Am 17.03.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:

i still can't send my question to the ML. Our outgoing Mailer has a
new IP which is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a146.107.103.20=toolpage#),
our domain is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3ahelmholtz-muenchen.de=toolpage#),
my E-Mail include neither any link nor an attachment, it's formatted
as plain-text but i still get it back:


at least not terrible good
senderscore.com LISTED 127.0.4.63


Uhm… the 127 Class A network is the “super local network,” used for
processes on the same physical machine.

You need to look at other Received: headers than the ones that start
with 127


please refrain from answering when you have no clue how DNS blacklists
are working and what about others are talking - thank you!

here is your homework for today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

BTW: one of my jobs is to build up spamfilters for hundrets of users
including maintain own local DNSBL/DNSWL services for scoring


if the wiki page is to long for you:
https://www.spamhaus.org/zen/

Return CodesData Source Contains
127.0.0.2   Direct UBE sources, spam operations & spam services
127.0.0.3   Direct snowshoe spam sources detected via automation
127.0.0.4-7 CBL (3rd party exploits such as proxies, trojans, etc.)
127.0.0.10-11 		End-user Non-MTA IP addresses set by ISP outbound mail 
policy




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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.03.2016 um 20:16 schrieb Jan Steinman:

From: Reindl Harald 
Date: 17 March 2016 at 06:27:22 PDT

Am 17.03.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:

i still can't send my question to the ML. Our outgoing Mailer has a new IP 
which is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a146.107.103.20=toolpage#),
 our domain is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3ahelmholtz-muenchen.de=toolpage#),
 my E-Mail include neither any link nor an attachment, it's formatted as plain-text 
but i still get it back:


at least not terrible good
senderscore.com LISTED  127.0.4.63


Uhm… the 127 Class A network is the “super local network,” used for processes 
on the same physical machine.

You need to look at other Received: headers than the ones that start with 127


please refrain from answering when you have no clue how DNS blacklists 
are working and what about others are talking - thank you!


here is your homework for today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

BTW: one of my jobs is to build up spamfilters for hundrets of users 
including maintain own local DNSBL/DNSWL services for scoring




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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Jan Steinman]

> From: Reindl Harald 
> Date: 17 March 2016 at 06:27:22 PDT
> 
> Am 17.03.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:
>> i still can't send my question to the ML. Our outgoing Mailer has a new IP 
>> which is not listed
>> (http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a146.107.103.20=toolpage#),
>>  our domain is not listed
>> (http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3ahelmholtz-muenchen.de=toolpage#),
>>  my E-Mail include neither any link nor an attachment, it's formatted as 
>> plain-text but i still get it back:
> 
> at least not terrible good
> senderscore.com LISTED127.0.4.63

Uhm… the 127 Class A network is the “super local network,” used for processes 
on the same physical machine.

You need to look at other Received: headers than the ones that start with 127.

Jan


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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Lentes, Bernd]

Hi,

i still can't send my question to the ML. Our outgoing Mailer has a new IP 
which is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a146.107.103.20=toolpage#),
 our domain is not listed 
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3ahelmholtz-muenchen.de=toolpage#),
 my E-Mail include neither any link nor an attachment, it's formatted as 
plain-text but i still get it back:

"This is the mail system at host mtaextp1.scidom.de.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

   The mail system

: host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 spam
score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)"

Can anyone points out the error ?

Thanks.


Bernd



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- Am 9. Mrz 2016 um 12:56 schrieb Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:

> Am 09.03.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:
>> i tried yesterday several times to send an e-Mail to this list. E-Mail is
>> formatted as plain-text, has no links included and no attachment but is
>> declined as spam. This is what is bounced:
>>
>> : host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 
>> spam
>>  score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)
>>
>> Any ideas?
> 
> surely:
> 
> spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net  LISTED  127.0.0.6
> bl.spamcannibal.org   LISTED  127.0.0.2
> 
> Received-SPF: none (helmholtz-muenchen.de: No applicable sender policy
>  available) receiver=amysql-list-wsv01.oracle.com; identity=mailfrom;
>  envelope-from="bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de";
>  helo=mtaextp1.scidom.de; client-ip=146.107.3.105
> 
> PTR: mtaextp1.scidom.de
> Country: DE (Germany)
> ISP: Helmholtz Zentrum Muenchen


Helmholtz Zentrum Muenchen
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Gesundheit und Umwelt (GmbH)
Ingolstaedter Landstr. 1
85764 Neuherberg
www.helmholtz-muenchen.de
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzende: MinDir'in Baerbel Brumme-Bothe
Geschaeftsfuehrer: Prof. Dr. Guenther Wess, Dr. Alfons Enhsen, Renate Schlusen 
(komm.)
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 6466
USt-IdNr: DE 129521671


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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 17.03.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:

i still can't send my question to the ML. Our outgoing Mailer has a new IP 
which is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a146.107.103.20=toolpage#),
 our domain is not listed
(http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3ahelmholtz-muenchen.de=toolpage#),
 my E-Mail include neither any link nor an attachment, it's formatted as plain-text 
but i still get it back:


at least not terrible good
senderscore.com LISTED  127.0.4.63

would be 1.0 SpamAssasin points on our setup, not much but not a good 
sign, hence we use 50 DNSBL/DNSWL with different scores and it's worth 
to catch most spam while prevent false positives



"This is the mail system at host mtaextp1.scidom.de.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

: host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 spam
 score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)"

Can anyone points out the error ?


not without the full message

try to send me the same mail (subject, content, attachments whatever) 
and i can bounce you back a SpamAssassin report




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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 09.03.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Lentes, Bernd:

i tried yesterday several times to send an e-Mail to this list. E-Mail is 
formatted as plain-text, has no links included and no attachment but is 
declined as spam. This is what is bounced:

: host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 spam
 score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)

Any ideas?


surely:

spam.dnsbl.sorbs.netLISTED  127.0.0.6
bl.spamcannibal.org LISTED  127.0.0.2

Received-SPF: none (helmholtz-muenchen.de: No applicable sender policy
 available) receiver=amysql-list-wsv01.oracle.com; identity=mailfrom;
 envelope-from="bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de";
 helo=mtaextp1.scidom.de; client-ip=146.107.3.105

PTR: mtaextp1.scidom.de
Country: DE (Germany)
ISP: Helmholtz Zentrum Muenchen




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Re: does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Olivier Nicole]

Bernd,

> : host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 spam
> score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)
>
> Any ideas ?

Whatever provider you are using to send mail has been blacklisted?

It happens with some ISP who are not diligent enough to remove the
spammers from their networks, legitimate customers get penalized.

Best regards,

Olivier

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does anyone else have problems sending mails to this list ?

[Lentes, Bernd]

Hi,

i tried yesterday several times to send an e-Mail to this list. E-Mail is 
formatted as plain-text, has no links included and no attachment but is 
declined as spam. This is what is bounced:

: host lists-mx.mysql.com[137.254.60.71] said: 552 spam
score exceeded threshold (#5.6.1) (in reply to end of DATA command)

Any ideas ?

Thanks.


Bernd

-- 
Bernd Lentes 

Systemadministration 
institute of developmental genetics 
Gebäude 35.34 - Raum 208 
HelmholtzZentrum München 
bernd.len...@helmholtz-muenchen.de 
phone: +49 (0)89 3187 1241 
fax: +49 (0)89 3187 2294 

Wer Visionen hat soll zum Hausarzt gehen 
Helmut Schmidt


Helmholtz Zentrum München


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