Re: [Nanog-futures] modest proposal for moderation
Perhaps we could invert the modest propsal thusly: If the topic of discussion has been or is likely to be a presentation topic, then it is known to be on-topic for the mailing list. Other topics may or may not, at mlc discretion, etc. (I#39;m also reasonably happy with the way things are now, and am not motivated to change them drastically) -David Barak Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Note: topic in the presentation room, not topic at the hotel bar ;-) ... which clearly means that you've missed where the real discussions happen. and only want to discuss what has already been discussed The original post also said and is unlikely to be a topic in the NANOG conference, which sounds like it would include anything that is likely to be discussed. Back to the original question: Fair attempt, but I think it falls short. It would be closer to say could possibly be a topic in the conference. But even that falls short, IMHO. There are subjects which are on topic useful for the mailing list which will never be presented. Besides, I think we have a fine system now. The MLC is doing an outstanding job. Do you not agree? (Randy, don't bother answering, I wasn't asking you. We all know your position - same as spammers, JHD. I don't like it when they say it either.) -- TTFN, patrick ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] Draft Policy re individual sites
This is the internet, can't give too much credit. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jo Rhettjrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: 'Select All' on the 'Subject' you don't want to read about and delete. A few hours turns into a few minutes... :-) I do that, but at risk. Far too many people who should know better use Reply to create a new thread. So their new thread gets to be part of someone else's stupid thread. If only the people who were smart enough to use Compose to start a new thread were an overlapping set with the people whose commentary was well-thought and clueful... -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Blackberry.net Email Administration Contact?
If anyone has a contact within Blackberry.net's email department, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could get me in touch with them. We're getting hundreds of connections a second from their mail servers and have had to block them. Thanks in advance, Mark Pace
Re: Rwhoisd solution?
I used this guide and it worked quite well. The writer was using FreeBSD but I installed onto Ubuntu and ran into little to no issues. http://www.unixadmin.cc/rwhois/ ---Chris On Jun 6, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: NANOGers, Can someone please point me in the direction of an rwhoisd solution to be run on a CentOS Linux platform? ARIN is now punting rwhois queries to us and frankly i've been unable to find an easy to install/use solution to answer these queries. I've seen the rwhoisd at projects.arin.net but the documentation on it is ghastly to say the least. Hopefully someone knows of an easier solution or at least a tutorial somewhere? -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Look for us at HostingCon 2009 in Washington, DC on August 10th - 12th at Booth #401.
Re: Traceroute management
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Dylan Ebner wrote: My company uses it's internet connection primarily for VPN tunneling. I have always wanted a tool that I can enter the peer ip addresses and it will every 8 or 12 hours run a traceroute and log it so I can build historical maps of the path our traffic is taking. Has anyone ever seen any apps like this, preferably something that is free. We ended up writing our own, take a look at perl Net::Traceroute throw it in a DB with DBI and then graph it with graphviz. Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com
Re: Rwhoisd solution?
Can someone please point me in the direction of an rwhoisd solution to be run on a CentOS Linux platform? ARIN is now punting rwhois queries to us and frankly i've been unable to find an easy to install/use solution to answer these queries. I've seen the rwhoisd at projects.arin.net but the documentation on it is ghastly to say the least. If you use IPPlan to manage your IP allocations, it comes with a whois daemon that'll automagically use the information from your IPPlan sql database. Chris
Coax wiring. MoCA between neighbors.
Hi All, I'm trying to find out how coax cables are wired in a residential area to each house. I found out that drop amp amplifies the signal just out side the building, and a few neighbors share the drop amp (basically a powered splitter). What other devices are there? I'm also trying to find out whether my neighbors would be able to overhear the MoCA signal from my apartment. Anyone knows the answer? For example, my apartment building has a cabinet that concentrates all coax cables from all units, and the 2~4 coax cables are attached to a device in the cabinet. I'm assuming it is a drop amp and I think MoCa signals can travel across the drop amp. Is my guess correct? Any comments on coax cable wiring between houses or apartments and MoCA technology would be very useful. Thank you, Dongsu
Re: Coax wiring. MoCA between neighbors.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Dongsu Han wrote: I'm also trying to find out whether my neighbors would be able to overhear the MoCA signal from my apartment. Anyone knows the answer? I can't speak to what they are *supposed* to do, but my experience is that things can be overheard. Last summer I discovered that my Comcast cable had two premium digital channels I hadn't ordered. One was showing soft porn, and while I was sitting there pondering this, it began to fast forward. Not surprisingly, it was fast forwarding over the boring parts and then watching the naughty bits at normal speed. I can only assume that one of the neighboring houses has video-on-demand.
RE: Coax wiring. MoCA between neighbors.
I recall an Article that talked about this and found it quickly... http://www.slate.com/id/2167389 has some links and info you might find useful ~J -Original Message- From: Kee Hinckley [mailto:naz...@somewhere.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:41 PM To: Dongsu Han Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Coax wiring. MoCA between neighbors. On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Dongsu Han wrote: I'm also trying to find out whether my neighbors would be able to overhear the MoCA signal from my apartment. Anyone knows the answer? I can't speak to what they are *supposed* to do, but my experience is that things can be overheard. Last summer I discovered that my Comcast cable had two premium digital channels I hadn't ordered. One was showing soft porn, and while I was sitting there pondering this, it began to fast forward. Not surprisingly, it was fast forwarding over the boring parts and then watching the naughty bits at normal speed. I can only assume that one of the neighboring houses has video-on-demand.
Re: Traceroute management
I use mtr with the --report and the --report-cycles switches + cron rm
Re: Blackberry.net Email Administration Contact?
At the moment it appears as tho the blackberry email storm has subsided. I thought I'd share a most excellent letter I got from Blackberry after one of the Nanog users was kind enough to forward my email along to them: Hello Mark, Thank you for contacting BlackBerry Customer Support. We have determined that you purchased your BlackBerry product through one of our carrier partners. Your service provider fields general queries and provides technical support for all BlackBerry smartphone-related issues and can act as your first point of contact in these matters. You may also have the option to receive fee-based support directly from Research In Motion, the manufacturer and wireless experts for the BlackBerry solution. If you would like to learn more about this option, please dial the appropriate telephone number below and enter option 3 in the phone menu to be routed to BlackBerry Customer Care. If your organization has subscribed to BlackBerry Technical Support Services, please contact your IT department and have one of your named callers contact BlackBerry Technical Support. Note: BlackBerry Technical Support Services is an annual subscription program providing software maintenance and technical support services for your BlackBerry solution. Named callers are personnel within your organization who are authorized to contact our support staff. For more information on BlackBerry Technical Support Services, please visit: http://www.blackberry.com/support/tsupport/ All BlackBerry smartphone users have free access to the BlackBerry Technical Solution Center. The BlackBerry Technical Solution Center provides a repository of support information, documentation and frequently asked questions, with enhanced search capabilities so you can easily search for and find the BlackBerry support information you need. Please visit: http://na.blackberry.com/eng/support/ Thank you again for contacting us Mark and have a nice day. Sincerely, Lucky me! I can contact my non-existent carrier or I can pay for support on a product I don't own that is flooding my network! I feel privileged... pace Mark Pace wrote: If anyone has a contact within Blackberry.net's email department, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could get me in touch with them. We're getting hundreds of connections a second from their mail servers and have had to block them. Thanks in advance, Mark Pace
Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch
On 11/06/2009, at 2:16 PM, v...@ee.lbl.gov wrote: didn't want to spring for a cert for that eh? www.startssl.com ... hey lookie! free certs! ? We bought a cert from Thawte specifically so people wouldn't find that it's suspect. Does it look funny when your browser presents it to you? I had the same problem, I'm not sure Christopher correctly diagnosed it. It looks like in Safari, when a Java applet asks for unrestricted access (as opposed to standard) it presents you with the security cert to confirm that you really want it. It says This certificate is valid, as opposed to invalid or untrusted or whatever normally comes up. Screenshot of the GUI: http://don.braintrust.co.nz/~nward/netalyzr.png -- Nathan Ward
Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Wardna...@daork.net wrote: On 11/06/2009, at 2:16 PM, v...@ee.lbl.gov wrote: didn't want to spring for a cert for that eh? www.startssl.com ... hey lookie! free certs! ? We bought a cert from Thawte specifically so people wouldn't find that it's suspect. Does it look funny when your browser presents it to you? I had the same problem, I'm not sure Christopher correctly diagnosed it. It looks like in Safari, when a Java applet asks for unrestricted access (as opposed to standard) it presents you with the security cert to confirm that you really want it. It says This certificate is valid, as opposed to invalid or untrusted or whatever normally comes up. http://img38.imageshack.us/i/picture1apq.png/ actually: 1) it's firefox 2) the error is from 'java' (looks like the same error as you get nathan) 3) it says: This applet was signed by the 'International Computer Science Institute' , but Java canNOT verify the authenticity of the signature's certificate. Do you trust this certificate? So... java fail, my-reading-skills-fail... -chris Screenshot of the GUI: http://don.braintrust.co.nz/~nward/netalyzr.png
Re: ICSI Netalyzr launch
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 16:51, v...@ee.lbl.gov wrote: Folks, you might be interested in checking out a network monitoring tool we launched today, Netalyzr. It's a Java applet you can run by surfing to netalyzr.com. It aims to measure a bunch of the properties of and end user's network access, particularly looking for transparent modifications (e.g., hidden proxies), connectivity restrictions, and some security issues (e.g., whether the DNS resolver is vulnerable to the Kaminsky attack). We've had several thousand users run it today so far, so you may be hearing about reports your customers have gotten from it. You can see a sample report at: http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=example-session - Vern Why no privacy policy? Or am I just partially blind? Is an answer in a FAQ legally binding? ~Chris -- Chris Grundemann weblog.chrisgrundemann.com www.twitter.com/chrisgrundemann www.coisoc.org
Data Centers in LA - CRG West
We are in the process of evaluating Equinix and CRG West in LA. Before we ink a deal, can anyone give some feedback on CRG West? I have had some minor direct operational experience with them in the past with a former employer. If anyone has some history with them; good, bad or informational on things to watch for throughout a lifecycle of a couple years with them would be appreciated. They seem pretty sound, but some things have cropped up as we have started looking at a possible contract. So if you have an opinion on the following please let me know on/off list as appropriate: Difficulties during contract phase other than terms. i.e. rights assignments, reps and warrants, etc.. Implementation issues during setup and install. Operational issues with HVAC/power/xcons/remote hands.. Any2 pitfalls. Integrity if issues arise. Comments would be welcome.. thanks! Regards, -Flint
