Prepare for Openleaks and other copycats
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/wikileaks-splits-as-volunteers-quit-to-set-up-rival-website-2157420.html -Hank
cablevision?
Hi all, Does anybody know anything about a large cablevision outage this morning? Their support phone lines are busy signals... Thanks Ben
RE: cablevision?
Yes: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25190780-Optonline-outage-12-12-2010 Frank -Original Message- From: Ben C. [mailto:bc-l...@beztech.net] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: cablevision? Hi all, Does anybody know anything about a large cablevision outage this morning? Their support phone lines are busy signals... Thanks Ben
peering, derivatives, and big brother
A read through this New York Times article on derivatives clearing, and the exclusivity that big banks seek to maintain, would look very much like an article on large-scale peering, to someone who is not expert in both topics. The transit-free club and the derivatives dealers club may have other similarities in the future, and it's worth watching how further government regulation develops in this area. It may lead to insight into how government might eventually regulate ISPs seeking to become settlement-free. “It appears that the membership criteria were set so that a certain group of market participants could meet that, and everyone else would have to jump through hoops,” Mr. Katz said. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/business/12advantage.html?pagewanted=1_r=1src=busln -- Jeff S Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts
Re: peering, derivatives, and big brother
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 01:36:08PM -0500, Jeff Wheeler said: A read through this New York Times article on derivatives clearing, and the exclusivity that big banks seek to maintain, would look very much like an article on large-scale peering, to someone who is not expert in both topics. The transit-free club and the derivatives dealers club may have other similarities in the future, and it's worth watching how further government regulation develops in this area. It may lead to insight into how government might eventually regulate ISPs seeking to become settlement-free. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/business/12advantage.html?pagewanted=1_r=1src=busln dont think so. 'cyber' is a panicword, results in way different regulations. also, the top player's influences through backchannels on the regulation process would be vastly different in those two industries. /kc -- Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.
Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down.
Unknown if this is due to the recent doings of late, but it appears as if Amazon Europe appears to be down. The anon's are definitely trying to cause disruptions, I find it difficult to believe that they are the actual cause. Time will tell. -wil
RE: Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down.
This is not Amazon per se, but if you look at http://status.aws.amazon.com/, and choose the Europe tabm, Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Ireland), Amazon Simple Notification Service (Ireland), and Amazon Simple Queue Service (Ireland) are having performance issues. Frank -Original Message- From: Wil Schultz [mailto:wschu...@bsdboy.com] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:33 PM To: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down. Unknown if this is due to the recent doings of late, but it appears as if Amazon Europe appears to be down. The anon's are definitely trying to cause disruptions, I find it difficult to believe that they are the actual cause. Time will tell. -wil
Re: Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down.
Thenextweb have been quick to push out speculation - http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/12/12/amazon-co-uk-and-de-are-down-is-anonymous-to-blame/ Andrew - Original Message - From:Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com To:North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Cc: Sent:Sunday, 12 December 2010, 21:33:29 Subject:Amazon.co.uk, and most of Amazon Europe, appears to be down. Unknown if this is due to the recent doings of late, but it appears as if Amazon Europe appears to be down. The anon's are definitely trying to cause disruptions, I find it difficult to believe that they are the actual cause. Time will tell. -wil
Re: Pointer for documentation on actually delivering IPv6
On 12/6/10 6:55 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Johnstone wrote: Speaking of IPV6 security, is there any movement towards any open source IPV6 firewall solutions for the consumer / small business? Almost all the info I've managed to find to date indicates no support, nor any planned support in upcoming releases. Any info would be helpful. Honestly (and I'm sure some IPv6 folks will want me injured as a result) there should be some '1918-like' space allocated for the corporate guys who don't get it, so they can nat everyone through a single /128. It would make life easier for them and quite possibly be a large item in pushing ipv6 deployment in the enterprise. There's literally not to prevent them from doing that today. there's a /8 of ual-l and nat66 implementations exist. I don't see our corporate IT guys that number stuff in 1918 space wanting to put hosts on 'real' ips. The chances for unintended routing are enough to make them say that v6 is actually a security risk vs security enabler is my suspicion. the chances of unitended routing with overlapping rfc-1918 domains and a bit of 2547 vpn in the mix are non trivial... Using GUA ipv6 space there's at least some chance that I'll actually see the leak and interpret it as such rather than wondering why my packets are going into a black hole or being discarded as out of state becuase they come back on a different VRF than they go out on. - Jared
RE: peering, derivatives, and big brother
-Original Message- From: Jeff Wheeler Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:36 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: peering, derivatives, and big brother A read through this New York Times article on derivatives clearing, and the exclusivity that big banks seek to maintain, would look very much like an article on large-scale peering, to someone who is not expert in both topics. The transit-free club and the derivatives dealers club may have other similarities in the future, and it's worth watching how further government regulation develops in this area. It may lead to insight into how government might eventually regulate ISPs seeking to become settlement-free. I don't see how this can happen with the number of wide open exchanges that exist these days. Take the several Equinix IX exchange points as an example. They aren't controlled by any cartel of participants who dictate who can and who cannot play. Each network sets their own peering policy. As most of the traffic is from content heavy networks to eyeball heavy networks, direct peering between them makes sense. The financial derivatives market isn't, in my opinion, a good analogy of the peering market. A data packet is perishable and must be moved quickly. The destination network wants the packet in order to keep their customer happy and the originating network wants to get it to that customer as quickly and cheaply as possible. The proliferation of these peering points means that today there is more traffic going directly from content network to eyeball network. To use a different analogy, it is almost like the market is going to a series of farmer's markets rather than supermarkets in the distribution channel. Sure, there are still the supermarkets out there, but increasingly they are selling their store brand by becoming content hosting networks themselves. I would expect with the current direction of interconnectivity, third party transit traffic would become a decreasing percentage of the aggregate total bandwidth a network moves. Or at least the third party transit traffic becomes smaller amounts of traffic from a larger number of sources with the big sources of traffic connecting to the big sinks of traffic directly and third party transit collecting the crumbs (albeit probably a large amount of crumbs).
