RE: Spam from inteliquent.com subject nanog

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Stewart
Nothing here for what it's worth

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Jay Hennigan [mailto:j...@west.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:01 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Spam from inteliquent.com subject nanog

Anyone else just get this?  Curious if they're scraping this list for
addresses.

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Re: Spam from inteliquent.com subject nanog

2012-05-22 Thread Alain Hebert

Same.  Nothing here.

Maybe someone at Tiscali/Tinet where fixing their mailing with 
their new name and made an error.


On that subject...

What kind of trouble Tiscali/Tinet got into to pull an Arthur 
Anderson and change their name to Inteliquent?


Context: Arthur Anderson changed their name to Accenture (yuck) 
after that unfortunate incident.


PS: I know they merge =D I'm just not a big fan of their new name.

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PubNIX Inc.
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P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443


On 05/22/12 06:25, Paul Stewart wrote:

Nothing here for what it's worth

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Jay Hennigan [mailto:j...@west.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:01 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Spam from inteliquent.com subject nanog

Anyone else just get this?  Curious if they're scraping this list for
addresses.

--
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Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and
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this NANOG wiki is getting spammed

2012-05-22 Thread Tei
I don't think this is the official nanog wiki, but anyway probably the
owners are on this mail list.

Spammers is wasting everyone time by filling it with crap.
http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Special:RecentChanges

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postdata:
Blizzard is getting strange slower speeds for some customers (300ms
ping, wen other have a normal of 100ms). I blame this in evil ISP's
doing evil things, or routing problems. Ignore this line.



Re: IPv6 aggregation tool

2012-05-22 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
:) thanks! Was wondering how to do that.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2012, at 9:36, Stefan Jakob stefan.ja...@de-cix.net wrote:

 Am 04.05.12 03:35, schrieb Rafael Rodriguez:
 Found this tool that works perfectly.
 
 http://zwitterion.org/software/aggregate-cidr-addresses/aggregate-cidr-addresses
 
 Hoping this'll help someone else here on the list.  Thanks!
 
 Thx, this is at least three times faster than what I have here.
 
 
 Just a comment on the final print statement, which doesn't fit my needs
 for ipv6:
 
 
 -print prefix: , $_-prefix(), \n;
 +print print:  , $_-print(), \n;
 
 
 - prefix: 2001:0db8::::::/32
 + print: 2001:db8::/32
 
 
 Rgds, Stefan
 



Re: IPv6 aggregation tool

2012-05-22 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mardi 22 mai 2012 à 14:02 -0400, Rafael Rodriguez a écrit :
 :) thanks! Was wondering how to do that.

$ perldoc Net::IP ;) That doc's a fine one to read also for other
reasons.

Cheers,

mh

 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 21, 2012, at 9:36, Stefan Jakob stefan.ja...@de-cix.net wrote:
 
  Am 04.05.12 03:35, schrieb Rafael Rodriguez:
  Found this tool that works perfectly.
  
  http://zwitterion.org/software/aggregate-cidr-addresses/aggregate-cidr-addresses
  
  Hoping this'll help someone else here on the list.  Thanks!
  
  Thx, this is at least three times faster than what I have here.
  
  
  Just a comment on the final print statement, which doesn't fit my needs
  for ipv6:
  
  
  -print prefix: , $_-prefix(), \n;
  +print print:  , $_-print(), \n;
  
  
  - prefix: 2001:0db8::::::/32
  + print: 2001:db8::/32
  
  
  Rgds, Stefan
  
 





Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread Simon Perreault

On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:

http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP
support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service
locations.


Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find 
anything about BGP on their web site...


Simon
--
DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca
NAT64/DNS64 open-source-- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
STUN/TURN server   -- http://numb.viagenie.ca



RE: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread J.J. Mc Kenna
http://www.voxel.net/assets/VoxCAST-Whitepaper.pdf



J.J.


-Original Message-
From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
 http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP 
 support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service 
 locations.

Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything 
about BGP on their web site...

Simon
--
DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca
NAT64/DNS64 open-source-- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
STUN/TURN server   -- http://numb.viagenie.ca






Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J.J. Mc Kenna
jmcke...@intelletrace.com wrote:
 http://www.voxel.net/assets/VoxCAST-Whitepaper.pdf

that does mention bgp, but not in the context of 'make my server do
bgp with the voxel network equipment'... in the context of: If you
setup a cdn you need to speak bgp.

I don't see a clicky-box on the voxel server (dedicated hosting)
configuration and pricing page for 'add the bgp to my server, pls.'.

-chris

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

 On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:
 http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP
 support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service
 locations.

 Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find 
 anything about BGP on their web site...

 Simon
 --
 DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca
 NAT64/DNS64 open-source        -- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
 STUN/TURN server               -- http://numb.viagenie.ca







Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread Simon Perreault

On 2012-05-22 15:02, J.J. Mc Kenna wrote:

http://www.voxel.net/assets/VoxCAST-Whitepaper.pdf


This is not what I would call BGP support. It's just a CDN.

Thanks,
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

On 2012-05-19 22:24, Adam Rothschild wrote:

http://www.voxel.net offers web-orderable servers and VMs, with BGP
support (IPv4 and IPv6) available as a paid add-on in all service
locations.


Is this publicly advertised or do you have to ask for it? I can't find anything 
about BGP on their web site...


--
DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca
NAT64/DNS64 open-source-- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
STUN/TURN server   -- http://numb.viagenie.ca



Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread Chris Marlatt

On 05/19/2012 02:19 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:


Any recommendations of such?


 -Bill


I know of a datacenter down in the Carolinas that will do such a setup 
for those sufficiently clued. Hit me up off list if you're interested in 
their details.


Regards,

Chris



Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Porter
Hi NANOG,

I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure. Specifically,
we are trying to figure out:

1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. T-Mobile, and
Sprint are on IPv6 now?
2.  If, and how, are they handling NAT64 for native IPv6 edge devices?
3. What is the percentage of breakdown for users on native IPv6? Dual
stacked?

GREE is a mobile social gaming company and we're trying to better
understand what lies between our customer's smart phones and our servers.
My next step will be to reach out to the carriers themselves, but I figured
many of their Network Engineers are probably on the NANOG mailing list and
this would be a great place to start.

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.

Sincerely,

- Paul Porter

-- 
*Paul G. Porter
*GREE International | Network Engineer
CCNP, CCSP, JNCIS-FWV, JNCIA-Junos
E-mail: paul.por...@gree.net
Mobile: (510) 371-1147
Twitter: paul_g_porter


Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Cameron Byrne
On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porter paul.por...@gree.co.jp wrote:

 Hi NANOG,

 I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
 carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure. Specifically,
 we are trying to figure out:

 1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. T-Mobile, and
 Sprint are on IPv6 now?

Hi,

T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's coverage
area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do not have an
IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.

This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a good job of
bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
https://sites.google.com/site/tmoipv6/lg-mytouch

 2.  If, and how, are they handling NAT64 for native IPv6 edge devices?

Yes, NAT64 / DNS64 is used in the case of reaching ipv4-only nodes.  If you
are concerned about middleboxs, you should deploy IPv6.

 3. What is the percentage of breakdown for users on native IPv6? Dual
 stacked?


Small today. As IPv6 becomes the default setting, that will change.

CB

 GREE is a mobile social gaming company and we're trying to better
 understand what lies between our customer's smart phones and our servers.
 My next step will be to reach out to the carriers themselves, but I
figured
 many of their Network Engineers are probably on the NANOG mailing list and
 this would be a great place to start.

 Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.

 Sincerely,

 - Paul Porter

 --
 *Paul G. Porter
 *GREE International | Network Engineer
 CCNP, CCSP, JNCIS-FWV, JNCIA-Junos
 E-mail: paul.por...@gree.net
 Mobile: (510) 371-1147
 Twitter: paul_g_porter


Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Graydon

On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp  wrote:

Hi NANOG,

I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure. Specifically,
we are trying to figure out:

1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. T-Mobile, and
Sprint are on IPv6 now?

Hi,

T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's coverage
area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do not have an
IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.

This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a good job of
bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it 
doesn't get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my 
wireless network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the 
settings to enable or disable that.


Paul



Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread PC
IPV6 is present, to my knowledge, on all devices on the Verizon IPV6
LTE network.  I noticed its using it to communicate to Google for many
of it's services when I ran a netstat.  I believe they mandated
support for it from any certified device.

Unfortunately, it's still firewalled.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:
 On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

 On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp  wrote:

 Hi NANOG,

 I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
 carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure.
 Specifically,
 we are trying to figure out:

 1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. T-Mobile,
 and
 Sprint are on IPv6 now?

 Hi,

 T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's coverage
 area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do not have
 an
 IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.

 This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a good job
 of
 bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here

 That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it doesn't
 get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my wireless
 network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the settings to
 enable or disable that.

 Paul




RE: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Tina TSOU
iOS 5.1 includes SLAAC and DHCPv6 client.

Tina


 -Original Message-
 From: PC [mailto:paul4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:59 PM
 To: Paul Graydon
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers
 
 IPV6 is present, to my knowledge, on all devices on the Verizon IPV6
 LTE network.  I noticed its using it to communicate to Google for many
 of it's services when I ran a netstat.  I believe they mandated
 support for it from any certified device.
 
 Unfortunately, it's still firewalled.
 
 
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk
 wrote:
  On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
 
  On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp  wrote:
 
  Hi NANOG,
 
  I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
  carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure.
  Specifically,
  we are trying to figure out:
 
  1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. T-Mobile,
  and
  Sprint are on IPv6 now?
 
  Hi,
 
  T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's coverage
  area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do not
 have
  an
  IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.
 
  This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a good
 job
  of
  bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
 
  That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it
 doesn't
  get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my wireless
  network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the settings to
  enable or disable that.
 
  Paul
 




Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Graydon

On 05/22/2012 01:40 PM, Paul Graydon wrote:

On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp  wrote:

Hi NANOG,

I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile phone
carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure. 
Specifically,

we are trying to figure out:

1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon. 
T-Mobile, and

Sprint are on IPv6 now?

Hi,

T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's coverage
area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do not 
have an

IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.

This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a good 
job of

bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it 
doesn't get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my 
wireless network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the 
settings to enable or disable that.


Paul

Cameron contacted me off list and pointed out the steps.  Works a treat, 
NAT64 is handling the IPv4 traffic without any obvious problems, along 
with IPv6.  Smooth and simple.  Shame it has to be switched on through 
some manual steps, but I guess that's understandable for now given it's 
technically in Beta stage.


Paul



Re: Peer1/Server Beach support for BGP on dedicated servers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J.J. Mc Kenna
 jmcke...@intelletrace.com wrote:
 http://www.voxel.net/assets/VoxCAST-Whitepaper.pdf

 that does mention bgp, but not in the context of 'make my server do
 bgp with the voxel network equipment'... in the context of: If you
 setup a cdn you need to speak bgp.

 I don't see a clicky-box on the voxel server (dedicated hosting)
 configuration and pricing page for 'add the bgp to my server, pls.'.

offlist a respondent states that emails to sales@ would get this
moving in the right direction... that seems promising.

thanks off-list respondent!
-chris



Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk writes:
 That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it
 doesn't get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my
 wireless network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the
 settings to enable or disable that.

Same here.  IPv6 works fine over my wifi, but doesn't work at all over
tmobile.

If I play with the cell settings to allow ipv4/ipv6 in APN then all
communication stops.  TMO might need to go back to those drawing
boards.  I don't see ipv6 working at all over their network.

-wolfgang
-- 
g+:  https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about




Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Cameron Byrne
On May 22, 2012 6:50 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 
wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote:


 Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk writes:
  That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it
  doesn't get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my
  wireless network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the
  settings to enable or disable that.

 Same here.  IPv6 works fine over my wifi, but doesn't work at all over
 tmobile.

 If I play with the cell settings to allow ipv4/ipv6 in APN then all
 communication stops.  TMO might need to go back to those drawing
 boards.  I don't see ipv6 working at all over their network.


Please read and follow the instructions here on how to setup
https://sites.google.com/site/tmoipv6/lg-mytouch

Feel free to ping me off-list if you see any issues.

From what you wrote, my guess is you are using a phone that does not have
IPv6 support (only Nexus phones have support today... Other phones do not
have the correct radio / RIL capabilities)

CB

 -wolfgang
 --
 g+:  https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about




Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Carpenter

Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they also do *not* 
have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that changes your IP address 
every couple minutes. The only way to get a stable connection is to pay them 
$500 to get a static public IP address.

thanks,
-Randy


- Original Message -
 IPV6 is present, to my knowledge, on all devices on the Verizon IPV6
 LTE network.  I noticed its using it to communicate to Google for
 many
 of it's services when I ran a netstat.  I believe they mandated
 support for it from any certified device.

 Unfortunately, it's still firewalled.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Paul Graydon
 p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:
  On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
 
  On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp
   wrote:
 
  Hi NANOG,
 
  I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile
  phone
  carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure.
  Specifically,
  we are trying to figure out:
 
  1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon.
  T-Mobile,
  and
  Sprint are on IPv6 now?
 
  Hi,
 
  T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's
  coverage
  area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do
  not have
  an
  IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.
 
  This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a
  good job
  of
  bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
 
  That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it
  doesn't
  get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my
  wireless
  network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the
  settings to
  enable or disable that.
 
  Paul
 






Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Randy Carpenter rcar...@network1.net wrote:

 Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they also do 
 *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that changes your IP 
 address every couple minutes. The only way to get a stable connection is to 
 pay them $500 to get a static public IP address.


wierd, I could swear someone in my office with a galaxy-nexus-on-vzw
was able to browse some ipv6-only sites.



Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Henry Linneweh
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/17/dns_changer_blackouts/

-Henry



Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Carpenter
I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some areas. I get 
der duh, what? when I ask about it.

It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that, but I can't 
even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address, because if you get a static IP, 
it disables the hotspot functionality. Head--Wall.

thanks,
-Randy

- Original Message -
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Randy Carpenter
 rcar...@network1.net wrote:
 
  Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they
  also do *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that
  changes your IP address every couple minutes. The only way to get
  a stable connection is to pay them $500 to get a static public IP
  address.
 
 
 wierd, I could swear someone in my office with a galaxy-nexus-on-vzw
 was able to browse some ipv6-only sites.
 
 



Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Derek Ivey
Verizon still seems to be quiet about their IPv6 plans for their FiOS 
network too :(.


Derek

On 5/22/2012 10:18 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some areas. I get der 
duh, what? when I ask about it.

It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that, but I can't 
even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address, because if you get a static IP, it disables 
the hotspot functionality. Head--Wall.

thanks,
-Randy

- Original Message -

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Randy Carpenter
rcar...@network1.net  wrote:

Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they
also do *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that
changes your IP address every couple minutes. The only way to get
a stable connection is to pay them $500 to get a static public IP
address.


wierd, I could swear someone in my office with a galaxy-nexus-on-vzw
was able to browse some ipv6-only sites.







Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Derek Ivey de...@derekivey.com wrote:
 Verizon still seems to be quiet about their IPv6 plans for their FiOS
 network too :(.

no they aren't, their complete lack of any noise is their plan.

no plan.

joy.

 On 5/22/2012 10:18 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

 I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some areas. I
 get der duh, what? when I ask about it.

 It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that, but I
 can't even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address, because if you get a
 static IP, it disables the hotspot functionality. Head--Wall.

 thanks,
 -Randy

 - Original Message -

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Randy Carpenter
 rcar...@network1.net  wrote:

 Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they
 also do *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that
 changes your IP address every couple minutes. The only way to get
 a stable connection is to pay them $500 to get a static public IP
 address.

 wierd, I could swear someone in my office with a galaxy-nexus-on-vzw
 was able to browse some ipv6-only sites.







Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Randy Carpenter rcar...@network1.net wrote:
 I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some areas. I get 
 der duh, what? when I ask about it.


uhm... you asked someone at their kiosks/stores about ipvanything??
you are a very, very brave man.

 It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that, but I 
 can't even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address, because if you get a 
 static IP, it disables the hotspot functionality. Head--Wall.


good times!! mobile carriers live in what seems like a very different
world from the one the rest of the internet lives in :(

(cameron's folk aside, where there are still some oddities, at least
you can get working ipv6, and mostly working v4... or working enough
that I can tether my phone and vpn over that connection when
necessary)

-chris

 thanks,
 -Randy

 - Original Message -
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Randy Carpenter
 rcar...@network1.net wrote:
 
  Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, they
  also do *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 crap that
  changes your IP address every couple minutes. The only way to get
  a stable connection is to pay them $500 to get a static public IP
  address.
 

 wierd, I could swear someone in my office with a galaxy-nexus-on-vzw
 was able to browse some ipv6-only sites.





Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Cameron Byrne
On May 22, 2012 7:14 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 
wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote:


 Cameron Byrne writes:
 From what you wrote,  guess is you are using a phone that does not
 have IPv6 support (only Nexus phones have support today... Other
phones
 do not have the correct radio / RIL capabilities)

 I'm using the Galaxy Nexus GSM bought directly from google a few weeks
 ago.  The firmware is up to date as are the apps.

 The instructions mention settings and pages that are slightly wrong
 for this phone.  I went to the Mobile network settings - Access
 Point names - T-Mobile US, epc.tmobile.com - APN Protocol.  It
 was IPv4 and I changed it to IPv4/IPv6 and then rebooted.  There
 was no save button or menu item.  After reboot the ipv4/ipv6 setting
 was still active (so it was saved), but no connection took place.  The
 cell tower I'm using is in Fremont, CA (CID 47052 LAC321).  Might it
 not be v6 connected?


For the sake of the archive and documenting the confirmed fix, the correct
APN setting for T-Mobile is IPv6 not IPv4 /IPv6

CB

 -wolfgang
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Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com writes:
 On May 22, 2012 7:14 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 
 wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote:


 Cameron Byrne writes:
 From what you wrote,  guess is you are using a phone that does not
 have IPv6 support (only Nexus phones have support today... Other
 phones
 do not have the correct radio / RIL capabilities)

 I'm using the Galaxy Nexus GSM bought directly from google a few weeks
 ago.  The firmware is up to date as are the apps.

 The instructions mention settings and pages that are slightly wrong
 for this phone.  I went to the Mobile network settings - Access
 Point names - T-Mobile US, epc.tmobile.com - APN Protocol.  It
 was IPv4 and I changed it to IPv4/IPv6 and then rebooted.  There
 was no save button or menu item.  After reboot the ipv4/ipv6 setting
 was still active (so it was saved), but no connection took place.  The
 cell tower I'm using is in Fremont, CA (CID 47052 LAC321).  Might it
 not be v6 connected?


 For the sake of the archive and documenting the confirmed fix, the correct
 APN setting for T-Mobile is IPv6 not IPv4 /IPv6

Yup.  Thanks Cameron! Chosing IPv6 (-only), does work.  I can view
IPv6-only websites when on a cell connection.  Before that only worked
when on wifi.

-wolfgang
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Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Carpenter

- Original Message -
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Randy Carpenter
 rcar...@network1.net wrote:
  I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some
  areas. I get der duh, what? when I ask about it.
 
 
 uhm... you asked someone at their kiosks/stores about ipvanything??
 you are a very, very brave man.

No... the Business technical support via telephone. They knew what I was 
talking about, but no idea about what VZW's plans are for it.

  It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that,
  but I can't even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address,
  because if you get a static IP, it disables the hotspot
  functionality. Head--Wall.
 
 
 good times!! mobile carriers live in what seems like a very different
 world from the one the rest of the internet lives in :(

Tell me about it. I would settle for a stable IPv4 address (dynamic is fine, 
but a lease time of something closer to an hour, rather than 2 minutes)

-Randy



Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Randy Carpenter rcar...@network1.net wrote:

 - Original Message -
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Randy Carpenter
 rcar...@network1.net wrote:
  I suppose they are selectively letting certain devices in some
  areas. I get der duh, what? when I ask about it.
 

 uhm... you asked someone at their kiosks/stores about ipvanything??
 you are a very, very brave man.

 No... the Business technical support via telephone. They knew what I was 
 talking about, but no idea about what VZW's plans are for it.


yea... so keep in mind that vzw and set(vzb(former mci/uunet) / vzt
(the phone company that owns the copper AND also deployed FIOS)) are
very, very different things.

I think inside vzb/vzt there's some oddness in their planning process
for v6, it's completely divorced from the vzw planning. If you want
answers about your vzw mifi/phone/tablet you can only ask vzw
kiosk/etc people :(

  It certainly does not work on the iPad 3 in Ohio. Not only that,
  but I can't even pay them to give me a stable IPv4 address,
  because if you get a static IP, it disables the hotspot
  functionality. Head--Wall.
 

 good times!! mobile carriers live in what seems like a very different
 world from the one the rest of the internet lives in :(

 Tell me about it. I would settle for a stable IPv4 address (dynamic is fine, 
 but a lease time of something closer to an hour, rather than 2 minutes)

maybe they already did the CGN thing to their network, lots and lots
of single IP sharing by port number! look, it's the future!

-chris


 -Randy



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Bush
father of bind?  that's news.

dnschanger gonna be a mess?  that's not news.

randy



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread bmanning
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 07:14:16PM -0700, Henry Linneweh wrote:
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/17/dns_changer_blackouts/
 
 -Henry

Paul certainly knows how to manipulate the press.

/bill



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Michael J Wise

On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

 father of bind?  that's news.

http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html

He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.
I gather he's the one pulling it out on the appointed day as well.

 dnschanger gonna be a mess?  that's not news.


Agreed.

Aloha,
Michael.
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Please have your Internet License 
 and Usenet Registration handy...




RE: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers

2012-05-22 Thread David Hubbard
I have the 4GLTE LG VL600 usb modem from Verizon on a consumer
data-only $50/month plan and it gives my Windows 7 laptop
a v6 address on both 3G and 4G connections.  I noticed it
recently when I was logged into the ARIN website since their
site puts a banner across the top when you're accessing via
ipv6; then I tried other sites to confirm it was working.

David

 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Carpenter [mailto:rcar...@network1.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:07 PM
 To: PC
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Current IPv6 state of US Mobile Phone Carriers
 
 
 Not only does Verizon *not* have IPv6 on their LTE network, 
 they also do *not* have IPv4, except for double-NATed rfc1918 
 crap that changes your IP address every couple minutes. The 
 only way to get a stable connection is to pay them $500 to 
 get a static public IP address.
 
 thanks,
 -Randy
 
 
 - Original Message -
  IPV6 is present, to my knowledge, on all devices on the Verizon IPV6
  LTE network.  I noticed its using it to communicate to Google for
  many
  of it's services when I ran a netstat.  I believe they mandated
  support for it from any certified device.
  
  Unfortunately, it's still firewalled.
  
  
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Paul Graydon
  p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:
   On 05/22/2012 01:21 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
  
   On May 22, 2012 4:00 PM, Paul Porterpaul.por...@gree.co.jp
    wrote:
  
   Hi NANOG,
  
   I'm looking for some information on the four largest US mobile
   phone
   carriers and the current state of their IPv6 infrastructure.
   Specifically,
   we are trying to figure out:
  
   1.  How much of the carrier core and edge for ATT, Verizon.
   T-Mobile,
   and
   Sprint are on IPv6 now?
  
   Hi,
  
   T-Mobile USA has native ipv6 to all subscribers in all of it's
   coverage
   area. But, less than 1% of subscribers use IPv6 because they do
   not have
   an
   IPv6 capable phone. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus work well.
  
   This device challenge will improve in time.  Samsung is doing a
   good job
   of
   bringing IPv6 to Android devices. More info here
  
   That's interesting.  I have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile USA and it
   doesn't
   get an IPv6 address, only IPv4.  Works fine with IPv6 over my
   wireless
   network at home.  Doesn't seem to be anything obvious in the
   settings to
   enable or disable that.
  
   Paul
  
  
  
  
 
 
 



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread bmanning
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
 
 On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 
  father of bind?  that's news.
 
   http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html
 
 He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.

Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development team
at UCB.   Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing code.
While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the orginal
code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their DNS
software,  based on the BIND code base, implementation assumptions, and 
with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well,  it would be 
a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of 
BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.

As for being there and Put The Fix In...  Makes for great PR but 
in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide.
An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the creaky
1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so well.

/bill



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Bush
 As for being there and Put The Fix In...  Makes for great PR but in
 actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide.

maybe we could wad up the sensationalist and self-aggrandizing newspaper
articles and use them to plug the dike?

randy



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Michael J Wise

On May 22, 2012, at 9:10 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
 
 On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 
 father of bind?  that's news.
 
  http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html
 
 He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.
 
   Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development team
   at UCB.   Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing code.
   While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the orginal
   code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their DNS
   software,  based on the BIND code base, implementation assumptions, and 
   with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well,  it would be 
   a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of 
   BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.

Methinks we're talking at cross purposes.

   As for being there and Put The Fix In...  Makes for great PR but 
   in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide.
   An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the creaky
   1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so well.


I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all.
Paul was there to shut down the DNS changer system and replace it with 
something that restored functionality to the infected machines.
And I gather Paul will be one of the people who will turn the lights out on it.

Your other comments are non-sequitur to the main issue.
When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many ISPs will 
prolly want to take their accrued vacation.

Aloha,
Michael.
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Please have your Internet License 
 and Usenet Registration handy...




Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread bmanning
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:07:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
 
 On May 22, 2012, at 9:10 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
  
  On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
  
  father of bind?  that's news.
  
 http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html
  
  He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.
  
  Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development team
  at UCB.   Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing code.
  While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the orginal
  code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their DNS
  software,  based on the BIND code base, implementation assumptions, and 
  with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well,  it would be 
  a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of 
  BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.
 
 Methinks we're talking at cross purposes.

maybe... :)  my comment was refering to the father of bind statement.

  As for being there and Put The Fix In...  Makes for great PR but 
  in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide.
  An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the creaky
  1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so well.
 
 I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all.
 Paul was there to shut down the DNS changer system and replace it with 
 something that restored functionality to the infected machines.
 And I gather Paul will be one of the people who will turn the lights out on 
 it.

He didn't shut down DNS Changer, he put up an equivalent system to 
hijack
DNS traffic and direct it to the right place...  SO folks didn't see 
any
problem and the DNS Changer infection grew and got worse.  When he is 
legally
required to take his bandaide out of service, then the problem will 
resolve
by folks who will have to clean their systems.

As for turning the lights out - that will only happen when the value 
of 
DNS hijacking drops.   As it is now,  ISC has placed DNS hijacking code
into their mainstream code base... because DNS hijacking is so valuable 
to 
folks.  In a modestly favorable light, ISC looks like an arms dealer 
(DNS redirection)
to the bad guys -AND- (via DNSSEC) the good guys.  Either way, they 
make money.

And yes, I think I agree with you.  Paul will be there to turn things 
off when 
they no longer make money for his company.

 Your other comments are non-sequitur to the main issue.

Perhaps I am not a member of the Paul Vixie cult of personality.  

 When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many ISPs will 
 prolly want to take their accrued vacation.

Amen.  And there will be thousands more of them when the court order 
expires than
existed when the Feds called him in.

/bill
 Aloha,
 Michael.
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 Please have your Internet License 
  and Usenet Registration handy...
 
 



Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Bush
 When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many
 ISPs will prolly want to take their accrued vacation.
 Amen.  And there will be thousands more of them when the court order
 expires than existed when the Feds called him in.

they could extend the court order, or prolong the do-gooder hack longer
under some other pretext, increasing the underlying problem further.
more infected machines and more job creation for front line support when
the whitewash finally stops.

randy