Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Christopher Morrow]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:19 AM, John Levine  wrote:
>>I suppose they COULD move their domain to a registrar that does
>>registrar-lock for 'free', but that's a cost too, right? man power,
>>configuration mistakes, other billing things to setup... 1800 might be
>>'ok' for someone who's making a bunch of money/day. right?
>
> That is the only plausible reason that NetSol has any remaining
> customers at all.  There's a bazillion other registrars that provide
> better service at lower prices, with nothing but inertia keeping
> people from moving.

hurray for inertia? :)

(note I'm not actually a netsol customer either... so I'm not
advocating them for this role)

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[John Levine]

>I suppose they COULD move their domain to a registrar that does
>registrar-lock for 'free', but that's a cost too, right? man power,
>configuration mistakes, other billing things to setup... 1800 might be
>'ok' for someone who's making a bunch of money/day. right?

That is the only plausible reason that NetSol has any remaining
customers at all.  There's a bazillion other registrars that provide
better service at lower prices, with nothing but inertia keeping
people from moving.

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Christopher Morrow]

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Paul Ferguson  wrote:
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> So basically they are charging $1800 for 'Registrar Lock'?
>
> Opt-in or Opt-out, it's still way expensive...

is it though? is it REALLY??

What's the cost for a lost domain for ~1 day while you try to haggle
with netsol (good luck!) on the phone to recover your domain? (for
someone who actually makes money on the internet I mean..
fergdawg.com.net.org.com doesn't count for this conversation :) )

I suppose they COULD move their domain to a registrar that does
registrar-lock for 'free', but that's a cost too, right? man power,
configuration mistakes, other billing things to setup... 1800 might be
'ok' for someone who's making a bunch of money/day. right?

and heck... if netsol gets 10 people to buy it they probably paid for
the work to actually do the 'registrar lock' right? :)

> On 1/22/2014 3:49 PM, Jay Farrell wrote:
>
>> Updated:
>>
>> http://domainnamewire.com/2014/01/22/web-com-weblock-program-will-be-opt-in-not-opt-out/
>>
>>  --quote-- In an interview with Domain Name Wire today, Web.com COO
>> Jason Teichman said the program will actually be opt-in, and no one
>> will be charged for the service unless they agree to add it.
>>
>> “Candidly, we did not do a good job in wording that [email],”
>> Teichman said. “Every one of those customers is getting a call.
>> It’s not our intention to enroll anyone in a program they don’t
>> want.”
>>
>> Web.com plans to offer the service to its top 1% of customers
>> according to domain traffic, value of brands, etc. That’s about
>> 30,000 customers in all. It started by notify just 49 customers “so
>> we can crawl our way into it,” Teichman said.
>>
>> --end quote--
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jay Hennigan 
>> wrote:
>>> On 1/22/14 10:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
 Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is
 Lauren.

 If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it
 seems you should probably do your diligence on this yourself:

 http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850
>>>
>>>

> Holy cow!  At first I figured a typo and it was supposed to be $18.50.
>>>
>>> There are less ridiculous ways to go out of business. Simply
>>> announce that you don't want to be a registrar any more and turn
>>> out the lights.
>>>
>>> I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the phone call from their
>>> credit card processor regarding chargeback percentage about three
>>> weeks after this hits.  Popcorn required for sure.
>>>
>>> -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering -
>>> j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service  -
>>> http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company
>>> - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org)

[Jared Mauch]

On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Tony Finch  wrote:

> Jared Mauch  wrote:
>> 
>>  I can point anyone interested to the place in the
>> bind source to force it to reply to all UDP queries with TC=1
>> to force TCP.  should be safe on any authority servers, as a recursive
>> server should be able to do outbound TCP.
> 
> However see http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2013-09/dnstcp.html

Yes, I’m aware of the excellent work by Geoff on this topic.  There are many
things that could be done, including the nonce (or similar) approach NTP
took with MONLIST vs MRULIST.

Perhaps it’s something like this:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eastlake-dnsext-cookies-03

- Jared

Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Network Solutions/Web.com apologizes for email about credit card charges

[Jay Ashworth]

NetSol: Oops.  We goofed.

Why they didn't clarify this when Brent queried them is unclear; I infer
(but cannot, of course, prove) backpedaling.  

Cheers,
-- jra

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> To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:44:11 PM
> Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Network Solutions/Web.com apologizes for email 
> about credit card charges
> Network Solutions/Web.com apologizes for email about credit card
> charges
> 
> I just got off the phone with the COO, CTO, and others from Network
> Solutions/Web.com, regarding today's furor over an email suggesting an
> almost $2K charge for a new domain security program unless the
> addressee opted out.
> 
> They are apologetic about the email, which they say mischaracterized
> the program aimed at the top 1% of their customers, and assert that
> nobody would have been charged that fee without affirmatively agreeing
> to enter the program -- irrespective of what the email appeared to be
> saying.
> 
> I also took the opportunity to discuss other aspects of their email
> notifications, such as those WHOIS confirmation notices I received a
> few
> days ago, that looked for all the world like phishing attempts.
> 
> All other aspects of today's story aside, I think it's more clear than
> ever that messaging really matters.
> 
> My thanks to Network Solutions/Web.com for taking the time to discuss
> these
> issues with me directly.
> 
> --Lauren--
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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[John Levine]

>> No, and they haven't been for many years. You're thinking of
>> Verisign. It owned NetSol at one time, but sold the registrar end
>> (which is what's still called Network Solutions) in 2003.
>
>Well, it's sort of metaphysical to ask which company is which, but... 

NetSol and Verisign have been separate, unrelated companies for more
than a decade.  I'm astounded if anyone here hasn't gotten the memo.

R's,
John

Re: [VoiceOps] Phone Numbers with Calling Restrictions

[Jay Ashworth]

Sorry. VO correctly doesn't set reply-to, and my MUA, Zimbra, doesn't do 
reply-to lisr.

I typed it by hand, and put in the wrong list name.
- jra

Adam Rothschild  wrote:
>How is this considered even remotely relevant to the NANOG list?
>
>VoiceOps, I can sort of see...
>
>On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tim Donahue" 
>>
>>> We ported this to an underlying carrier (the guilty party shall
>remain
>>> nameless), and according to their engineers they have no option to
>>> disable the SSC.
>>>
>>> I actually have no idea if the call I am making is blocked at the
>local
>>> switch for my POTS test line, the LD carrier, or inbound to our ULC
>(or any
>>> other part of the path it might have crossed). This information was
>not
>>> provided to me in the response from our ULC, but it would be
>interesting to
>>> know for future reference where these blocks happen.
>>
>> Waitaminnit.
>>
>> The calls are being blocked... well, they'd have to be being blocked
>> *before they get to your gaining carrier, I guess, right?
>>
>> That nearly *requires* the code to be in the LERG, so the originating
>CO
>> can execute it.  We have some people here who know the LERG back and
>fro;
>> Paul? Anyone else?  You ever heard of this?
>>
>> Can you originate a call to that number from a different carrier via
>> PRI, and see which ISDN error you get back?  Or have someone else
>call
>> it that way?
>>
>> ISDN errors tend to have a bit more data in them.
>>
>> I'd do it, but I don't have any PRIs laying around anymore.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>> --
>> Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink  
>j...@baylink.com
>> Designer The Things I Think  
>RFC 2100
>> Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land
>Rover DII
>> St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727
>647 1274
>>

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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Paul Ferguson]

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So basically they are charging $1800 for 'Registrar Lock'?

Opt-in or Opt-out, it's still way expensive...

- - ferg


On 1/22/2014 3:49 PM, Jay Farrell wrote:

> Updated:
> 
> http://domainnamewire.com/2014/01/22/web-com-weblock-program-will-be-opt-in-not-opt-out/
>
>  --quote-- In an interview with Domain Name Wire today, Web.com COO
> Jason Teichman said the program will actually be opt-in, and no one
> will be charged for the service unless they agree to add it.
> 
> “Candidly, we did not do a good job in wording that [email],”
> Teichman said. “Every one of those customers is getting a call.
> It’s not our intention to enroll anyone in a program they don’t
> want.”
> 
> Web.com plans to offer the service to its top 1% of customers 
> according to domain traffic, value of brands, etc. That’s about
> 30,000 customers in all. It started by notify just 49 customers “so
> we can crawl our way into it,” Teichman said.
> 
> --end quote--
> 
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jay Hennigan 
> wrote:
>> On 1/22/14 10:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>> Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is
>>> Lauren.
>>> 
>>> If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it
>>> seems you should probably do your diligence on this yourself:
>>> 
>>> http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850
>>
>>
>>> 
Holy cow!  At first I figured a typo and it was supposed to be $18.50.
>> 
>> There are less ridiculous ways to go out of business. Simply
>> announce that you don't want to be a registrar any more and turn
>> out the lights.
>> 
>> I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the phone call from their
>> credit card processor regarding chargeback percentage about three
>> weeks after this hits.  Popcorn required for sure.
>> 
>> -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering -
>> j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service  -
>> http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company
>> - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Jay Farrell]

Updated:

http://domainnamewire.com/2014/01/22/web-com-weblock-program-will-be-opt-in-not-opt-out/

--quote--
In an interview with Domain Name Wire today, Web.com COO Jason
Teichman said the program will actually be opt-in, and no one will be
charged for the service unless they agree to add it.

“Candidly, we did not do a good job in wording that [email],” Teichman
said. “Every one of those customers is getting a call. It’s not our
intention to enroll anyone in a program they don’t want.”

Web.com plans to offer the service to its top 1% of customers
according to domain traffic, value of brands, etc. That’s about 30,000
customers in all. It started by notify just 49 customers “so we can
crawl our way into it,” Teichman said.

--end quote--

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jay Hennigan  wrote:
> On 1/22/14 10:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>> Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is Lauren.
>>
>> If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it seems you
>> should probably do your diligence on this yourself:
>>
>>   http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850
>
> Holy cow!  At first I figured a typo and it was supposed to be $18.50.
>
> There are less ridiculous ways to go out of business. Simply announce
> that you don't want to be a registrar any more and turn out the lights.
>
> I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the phone call from their credit
> card processor regarding chargeback percentage about three weeks after
> this hits.  Popcorn required for sure.
>
> --
> Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
> Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
> Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
>

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Jay Hennigan]

On 1/22/14 10:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is Lauren.
> 
> If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it seems you 
> should probably do your diligence on this yourself:
> 
>   http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850

Holy cow!  At first I figured a typo and it was supposed to be $18.50.

There are less ridiculous ways to go out of business. Simply announce
that you don't want to be a registrar any more and turn out the lights.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the phone call from their credit
card processor regarding chargeback percentage about three weeks after
this hits.  Popcorn required for sure.

--
Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV

Re: [VoiceOps] Phone Numbers with Calling Restrictions

[Adam Rothschild]

How is this considered even remotely relevant to the NANOG list?

VoiceOps, I can sort of see...

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tim Donahue" 
>
>> We ported this to an underlying carrier (the guilty party shall remain
>> nameless), and according to their engineers they have no option to
>> disable the SSC.
>>
>> I actually have no idea if the call I am making is blocked at the local
>> switch for my POTS test line, the LD carrier, or inbound to our ULC (or any
>> other part of the path it might have crossed). This information was not
>> provided to me in the response from our ULC, but it would be interesting to
>> know for future reference where these blocks happen.
>
> Waitaminnit.
>
> The calls are being blocked... well, they'd have to be being blocked
> *before they get to your gaining carrier, I guess, right?
>
> That nearly *requires* the code to be in the LERG, so the originating CO
> can execute it.  We have some people here who know the LERG back and fro;
> Paul? Anyone else?  You ever heard of this?
>
> Can you originate a call to that number from a different carrier via
> PRI, and see which ISDN error you get back?  Or have someone else call
> it that way?
>
> ISDN errors tend to have a bit more data in them.
>
> I'd do it, but I don't have any PRIs laying around anymore.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   
> j...@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274
>

above.net latencies

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Seeing high latency's between LGA and PHL on above.net..  Saw this last
night as well but went away by morning..   Anyone confirm or have any
status?  

 

  8 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  ae5.cr1.ord2.us.above.net
[64.125.28.233]

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11   118 ms   119 ms   113 ms  208.185.20.54.t01657-08.above.net
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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "Andrew Sullivan" 

> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 03:01:03PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> > Better question: are they still the *registry*?
> 
> No, and they haven't been for many years. You're thinking of
> Verisign. It owned NetSol at one time, but sold the registrar end
> (which is what's still called Network Solutions) in 2003.

Well, it's sort of metaphysical to ask which company is which, but... 

Good, I guess.  Thanks for the reminder.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
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Re: [VoiceOps] Phone Numbers with Calling Restrictions

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "Tim Donahue" 

> We ported this to an underlying carrier (the guilty party shall remain
> nameless), and according to their engineers they have no option to
> disable the SSC.
> 
> I actually have no idea if the call I am making is blocked at the local
> switch for my POTS test line, the LD carrier, or inbound to our ULC (or any
> other part of the path it might have crossed). This information was not
> provided to me in the response from our ULC, but it would be interesting to
> know for future reference where these blocks happen.

Waitaminnit.

The calls are being blocked... well, they'd have to be being blocked
*before they get to your gaining carrier, I guess, right?

That nearly *requires* the code to be in the LERG, so the originating CO
can execute it.  We have some people here who know the LERG back and fro;
Paul? Anyone else?  You ever heard of this?

Can you originate a call to that number from a different carrier via
PRI, and see which ISDN error you get back?  Or have someone else call
it that way?

ISDN errors tend to have a bit more data in them.

I'd do it, but I don't have any PRIs laying around anymore.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Andrew Sullivan]

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 03:01:03PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Better question: are they still the *registry*? 

No, and they haven't been for many years.  You're thinking of
Verisign.  It owned NetSol at one time, but sold the registrar end
(which is what's still called Network Solutions) in 2003.

A

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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" 

> After the issues with NetSol over the last year, why would anyone keep
> their domains with that registrar?

Better question: are they still the *registry*?  And how do stupid policies
like this on the part of one bode for the other?

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Patrick W. Gilmore]

On Jan 22, 2014, at 14:20 , Barry Shein  wrote:

> They also will change your domains to "auto renew" magically and punch
> a credit card 90 days in advance of expiry so for example if a domain
> expires in April expect a charge in January at the latest. Why? I
> dunno, better to have the money now than later I guess.
> 
> You'll have to jump through hoops to fix this, cannot be fixed via
> their online domain admin interface, someone they believe has
> authority (which may not be as simple as you think if for example your
> company owns the domain) has to phone and speak to a human about
> getting the bit unset.
> 
> P.S. Doing that, removing auto-renew, changes you to receiving urgent
> email from them once a week or so starting 90 days in advance about
> how your domain is ABOUT TO EXPIRE!

After the issues with NetSol over the last year, why would anyone keep their 
domains with that registrar?

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Gary Buhrmaster]

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Barry Shein  wrote:

> P.S. Doing that, removing auto-renew, changes you to receiving urgent
> email from them once a week or so starting 90 days in advance about
> how your domain is ABOUT TO EXPIRE!

Sort of reminds me of the late night TV ads for ginsu knives:
"So you don't forget, call before midnight tonight!"

Gary

Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Barry Shein]

They also will change your domains to "auto renew" magically and punch
a credit card 90 days in advance of expiry so for example if a domain
expires in April expect a charge in January at the latest. Why? I
dunno, better to have the money now than later I guess.

You'll have to jump through hoops to fix this, cannot be fixed via
their online domain admin interface, someone they believe has
authority (which may not be as simple as you think if for example your
company owns the domain) has to phone and speak to a human about
getting the bit unset.

P.S. Doing that, removing auto-renew, changes you to receiving urgent
email from them once a week or so starting 90 days in advance about
how your domain is ABOUT TO EXPIRE!

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Re: NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Paul Ferguson]

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$1800 for standard "Registrar Lock" services does sound a bit expensive. :-(

- - ferg


On 1/22/2014 10:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

> Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is Lauren.

> If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it seems you 
> should probably do your diligence on this yourself:
> 
>   http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850
> 
> I have not been fond of NetSol since they kidnapped everyone's free
> domains back in ... what, 1996 or 7, and started charging for them;
> I moved to Domain Discover almost immediately... but this seems
> *wildly* over the top.
> 
> How many domains do *you* have?
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> 


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NetSol opts domain customers into $1800 Security program?

[Jay Ashworth]

Brent Simmons is not given to ridiculous overreaction, nor is Lauren.

If you have domains registered with NetSol's registrar, it seems you 
should probably do your diligence on this yourself:

  http://inessential.com/2014/01/21/network_solutions_auto-enroll_1_850

I have not been fond of NetSol since they kidnapped everyone's free
domains back in ... what, 1996 or 7, and started charging for them;
I moved to Domain Discover almost immediately... but this seems
*wildly* over the top.

How many domains do *you* have?

Cheers,
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NTP Reflections - New article on RIPE Labs by John Kristoff

[Mirjam Kuehne]

Hello,

After the recent amplification attacks involving NTP servers, John 
Kristoff, a researcher with Team Cymru, kindly agreed to publish an 
analysis of the history and timeline leading up to the attacks. Please 
find his contribution on RIPE Labs:


https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ntp-reflections

I thought this might be interesting for this list.

Kind regards,
Mirjam Kuehne
RIPE NCC