Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Thomas
So I have to ask, why is it advantageous to put this in a container 
rather than just run it directly

on the container's host?

Mike

On 06/14/2018 05:03 PM, Richard Hicks wrote:

I'm happy with GoBGP in a docker container for my BGP
Dashboard/LookingGlass project.
https://github.com/rhicks/bgp-dashboard

Its just piping RIB updates, as JSON, to script to feed into MongoDB
container.

At work we also looked at GoBGP as a route-server for a small IXP type of
setup, but ran into few issues that we didn't have the time to fully
debug.  So we switched to BIRD for that project.
We are happy with both.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:56 AM, james jones  wrote:


I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

-James





Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:41 PM Oliver O'Boyle 
wrote:

> There's no reason why it shouldn't work well. It's just a minor paradigm
> shift that requires some solid testing and knowhow on the ops team.
>
>
and... XR or Junos are ... doing this under the covers for you anyway, so..
get used to the new paradigem!


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
There's no reason why it shouldn't work well. It's just a minor paradigm
shift that requires some solid testing and knowhow on the ops team.



On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 22:26 Eric Tykwinski,  wrote:

> The funny part is I don’t like containers but love VMs, so kvm, vmware,
> citrix, hvm, et al.
> Not much difference but I tend to like the separation of OS knowledge,
> with all the bugs lately though I wonder if it’s worth it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
>
> > On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Hunter Fuller 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:46 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive.
> >
> >
> > I have no idea. All - You know no one is trying to make *you* run BGP
> > inside of a container, right?
>
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Eric Tykwinski
The funny part is I don’t like containers but love VMs, so kvm, vmware, citrix, 
hvm, et al.
Not much difference but I tend to like the separation of OS knowledge, with all 
the bugs lately though I wonder if it’s worth it.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Hunter Fuller  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:46 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive.
> 
> 
> I have no idea. All - You know no one is trying to make *you* run BGP
> inside of a container, right?



Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hunter Fuller
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:46 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive.


I have no idea. All - You know no one is trying to make *you* run BGP
inside of a container, right?


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "james jones"  
To: "NANOG"  
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:56:09 PM 
Subject: BGP in a containers 

I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best 
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs 
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking 
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions? 

-James 



Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Richard Hicks
I'm happy with GoBGP in a docker container for my BGP
Dashboard/LookingGlass project.
https://github.com/rhicks/bgp-dashboard

Its just piping RIB updates, as JSON, to script to feed into MongoDB
container.

At work we also looked at GoBGP as a route-server for a small IXP type of
setup, but ran into few issues that we didn't have the time to fully
debug.  So we switched to BIRD for that project.
We are happy with both.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:56 AM, james jones  wrote:

> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> -James
>


Re: fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert


On Thu 2018-Jun-14 23:28:50 +0200, na...@jack.fr.eu.org  
wrote:


Bof

I currently use cumulus's software, I will then report my experience:
not production ready

You have a lot of features, with a fast development, but ..
I expect my network to be a rock solid part of my infrastructure,
especially when I am using the classic part, not the fancy ones

When I have huge stability issue with something like bgp, what can I say
but "get away from those software, it is not production-ready yet" ?


I'd be curious about specifics.  We've got some Cumulus with BGP and it 
hasn't given us any issues.  Granted, it's very vanilla with a couple of 
SVIs per switch and just basic IPv4 unicast and it's just a management 
network, but it hasn't caused us any issues that I'm aware of.


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Re: fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread nanog
Bof

I currently use cumulus's software, I will then report my experience:
not production ready

You have a lot of features, with a fast development, but ..
I expect my network to be a rock solid part of my infrastructure,
especially when I am using the classic part, not the fancy ones

When I have huge stability issue with something like bgp, what can I say
but "get away from those software, it is not production-ready yet" ?

On 06/14/2018 04:18 PM, Marcus Leske wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Any thought leader on the list to shed some light to what is happening
> in the world of open networking ? OVS vs OpenNSL vs Cumulus vs fd.io
> vs Snabb vs a lot of stuff :)
> 
> Where is this going ? What are the obvious pros and cons of each when
> it comes to scale and feature velocity ?
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/8r0afq/is_their_any_truth_to_the_trend_of_putting/
> 
> Danke
> 



Google Scholar Contact?

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Gard
Hey,

Can someone reach out to me off list in regards to Google Scholar? Been
dealing with an issue in which a recently acquired IP block appears to have
been blacklisted in the past and is impacting end users.

Thanks!

-- 
Ryan Gard


Re: FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Kearney via NANOG
Also, please stop putting quotes in your email signature... it's 2018.

​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 13, 2018 2:01 AM,  wrote:

> Then perhaps that thread was killed by the moderators. Please heed
> 
> the list charter.
> 
> Also, please get a mail client that generates proper In-Reply-To
> 
> headers and knows how to quote... it's 2018.
> 
> -- Niels.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "It's amazing what people will do to get their name on the internet,
> 
> which is odd, because all you really need is a Blogspot account."
> 
> -- roy edroso, alicublog.blogspot.com



RE: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Travis Garrison
>On 6/12/18 1:52 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Randy Bush  said:
 If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry, 
 so very sorry.  Especially when it comes to v6.
>>>
>>> emacs!
>> 
>> vim!
>> 
>
>ed!

Butterflies!


fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread Marcus Leske
Hi

Any thought leader on the list to shed some light to what is happening
in the world of open networking ? OVS vs OpenNSL vs Cumulus vs fd.io
vs Snabb vs a lot of stuff :)

Where is this going ? What are the obvious pros and cons of each when
it comes to scale and feature velocity ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/8r0afq/is_their_any_truth_to_the_trend_of_putting/

Danke


FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

2018-06-14 Thread John Sage

On 06/12/2018 01:10 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:



Apologies for the noise.  Please hit delete...

Once again I am not able to send email to the list and
have either been moderated off again (for some mistake
or some unknown reason why) or something else is going
on.  Sent email to admins@, but no response, so this
is just a test to see if anything gets through.


FWIW this is what I've seen, by date/time...


- John


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Vicente Luca
I run BGP (bird) on containers in a high available production environment for 
supporting multiple kubernetes clusters, among other very critical pieces of my 
infrastructure. 
As long as you know what you’re doing and have people that knows how to 
troubleshoot, it's very reliable. the fact that you’re using containers 
shouldn’t matter which BGP daemon you will decide using. if you’re comfortable 
with quagga, containerize quagga.  if you like gobgp, use gobgp. they all can 
be containerized and will work fine if the all the underlying foundation is 
proper configured. 

—vicente

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Brielle Bruns  wrote:
> 
> On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:
>> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
>> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
>> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
>> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>> -James
> 
> *twitches*
> 
> Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as BGP.
> 
> -- 
> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org



Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Jay Christopher
Not sure I've seen it mentioned, so will throw NetBox into the mix.

https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox

- jay

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Either phpipam or nipap.
>
> Both use fairly standard database backends and db schema (usually something
> as simple as mariadb listenong on localhost only, on the same VM that is
> the apache2 or nginx + php stack), allowing you to scale up to external
> tools that do read only queries of the IP database for other purposes.
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>
> > Title says it all... Currently using IPPlan, but it is kinda antiquated..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Mike Lyon
> > mike.l...@gmail.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
> >
>
-- 
- Jay C.


Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Luca Salvatore via NANOG
Netbox. Open source IPAM and DCIM built by DigitalOcean
https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Either phpipam or nipap.
>
> Both use fairly standard database backends and db schema (usually something
> as simple as mariadb listenong on localhost only, on the same VM that is
> the apache2 or nginx + php stack), allowing you to scale up to external
> tools that do read only queries of the IP database for other purposes.
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>
> > Title says it all... Currently using IPPlan, but it is kinda antiquated..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Mike Lyon
> > mike.l...@gmail.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
> >
>


Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

2018-06-14 Thread Lee Howard




On 06/11/2018 05:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:


--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ca By 


Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA
reach them via ipv6

And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles

And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.


Let me grab a few more for you:

https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html 



https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/10/ipv6-at-akamai-edge-2016.html

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/28/ipv6_now_faster_a_fifth_of_the_time 
which cites an academic paper 
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2959424.2959429 by Vaibhav Bajpai 
and Jürgen Schönwälder


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ipv6-measurements-zaid-ali-kahn/

https://community.infoblox.com/t5/IPv6-CoE-Blog/Can-IPv6-Rally-Be-Faster-than-IPv4-Part-1/ba-p/6419 



https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=2281


I'd sure like to see how they came up with these
numbers in a technically oriented paper.

Most of the above links explain how they got the numbers.
Facebook, in particular, did A/B testing using Mobile Proxygen, which is 
to say that they configured their mobile app to report performance over 
both IPv4 and IPv6 from the same handset at the same time.
Others, including APNIC's https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf have a 
browser fetch two objects with unique URLs, one from an IPv4-only server 
and one from an IPv6-only server, and compare them.





  There
should be no difference, except for no CGN or Happy
Eyeballs working better or something similar.  Am I
missing something?  Same routers; same links; same
RTTs; same interrupt times on servers; same etc, etc
for both protocols.


From time to time somebody says, "Okay, maybe it works in practice, but 
does it work in *theory*?"


Busy engineers hardly ever investigate things going inexplicably right.

My hypothesis is that the observed difference in performance relates to 
how mobile networks deploy their transition mechanisms. Those with a 
dual-stack APN take a native path for IPv6, while using a CGN path for 
IPv4, which, combined with the Happy Eyeballs head start, might add 
501microseconds, which is a ms, which is 15% of 7ms. Those with an 
IPv6-only APN use a native path for IPv6, while using either a NAT64 for 
IPv4 (identical performance to CGN) or 464xlat, which requires 
translation both in the handset and the NAT64; handsets may not be 
optimized for header translation.


However, I have a dozen other hypotheses, and the few experiments I've 
been able to run have not confirmed any hypothesis. For instance, when 
one protocol is faster than another on a landline network, hop count is 
not a correlation (therefore, shorter paths, traffic engineering, etc., 
are not involved).


Lee



Hmm...  Faster and better?

The links seem to be an IPv6 cheerleader write up.
I looked at the URLs and the URLs one pointed to and
pulled out everything related to IPv6 being
faster/better.


Akamai URL:

"For dual-stacked hostnames we typically see higher
average estimated throughput over IPv6 than over IPv4.
Some of this may be due to IPv6-connected users being
correlated with better connectivity, but over half of
dual-stacked hostnames (weighted by daily bytes
delivered) have IPv6 estimated throughput at least 50%
faster than IPv4, and 90% of these hostnames have the
IPv6 estimated throughput at least 10% faster than
IPv4."



FB URL:

"People using Facebook services typically see better
performance over IPv6..."

and it points to
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on-board
which says:

"We’ve long been anticipating the exhaustion of IPv
in favor of the speed and performance benefits of
IPv6."

"We’ve observed that accessing Facebook can be 10-15
percent faster over IPv6."


I'd sure like to see how they came up with these
numbers in a technically oriented paper.  There
should be no difference, except for no CGN or Happy
Eyeballs working better or something similar.  Am I
missing something?  Same routers; same links; same
RTTs; same interrupt times on servers; same etc, etc
for both protocols.

scott




Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

2018-06-14 Thread Lee Howard



Assuming IPv6+translation, yes, you need IPv4 addresses of Good Repute 
for the outside; that might requiring constant monitoring, and notifying 
various content that it's shared address space. It's the same 
operational problem as CGNAT44, but reduced because half (or more) of 
your traffic is using unshared IPv6. Among other things, that means you 
don't need as many IPv4 addresses.


"But wait!" you say, because you're clever, "The original poster only 
wanted a /24. Surely you're not saying you could put less than a /24 
outside your CGN (44 or 64) and have it routed?"


Maybe the /28 is part of your larger aggregate. Or maybe it's a shared 
translator, handling, say, eight small companies who only need a /28 
each. And yes, you want very careful reputation monitoring in that case, 
and maybe some effort to prevent things that get one placed on Lists of 
Addresses of Ill Repute.


Sales pitch available on demand.

Lee Howard
Retevia.net


On 06/11/2018 12:56 PM, Michael Crapse wrote:

Never do i suggest to not have ipv6! Simply that no matter what, You still
have to traverse to ipv4 when you exit your ipv6 network onto ipv4 only
services. What IPv4 addresses are you going to use for the NAT64, or
464xlat, or even the business customers that require static IPv4 addresses?
Someone made a statement that getting more ipv6 would solve OP's problem of
finding more clean ipv4 space


On 11 June 2018 at 10:50, Ca By  wrote:



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Michael Crapse 
wrote:


For an eyeball network, you cannot count on an IPv6 only network. Because
all of your "customers" will complain because they can't get to hulu, or
any other ipv4 only eyeball service. You still need the ipv4s to operate a
proper network, and good luck figuring out which services are blacklisting
your new /24 because the ipv4 space used to be a VPN provider, and the "in"
thing to do for these services is to block VPNs.


There are many IPv6-only eyeball networks.  Definitely many examples in
wireless (T-Mobile, Sprint, BT ) and wireline (DT with DS-Lite in Germany,
Orange Poland ...) and even more where IPv4 NAT44 + IPv6 is used.  Just
saying, having ipv6 hedges a lot of risk associate with blacklisting and
translation related overhead and potentially scale and cost of IPv4
addresses.




On 11 June 2018 at 09:21, Ca By  wrote:


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:43 AM Stan Ouchakov 
Hi,

Can anyone recommend transfer market brokers for ipv4 addresses? Need
clean /24 asap. ARIN's waiting list is too long...

Thanks!


-Stan

Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA reach them via

ipv6

https://code.facebook.com/posts/635039943508824/how-ipv6-dep
loyment-is-growing-in-u-s-and-other-countries/


And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles

https://blogs.akamai.com/2018/06/six-years-since-world-ipv6-
launch-entering-the-majority-phases.html


And they both report ipv6 is faster / better.







Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Kearney
Can we please stop spamming the list with this crap now?

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Satchell  wrote:
> 
> On 06/12/2018 08:26 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>>> emacs!
>> vim!
> ed!
 TECO!
>>> cat
>> IBM 029.
> 
> Youngster.  IBM 026.


Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Estevan Pagan
Device42.

https://www.device42.com/

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:53 AM Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Randy Bush  said:
> > > If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry,
> > > so very sorry.  Especially when it comes to v6.
> >
> > emacs!
>
> vim!
> --
> Chris Adams 
>


Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Brant Ian Stevens

sorry, but nano4lyfe!

On 6/12/18 2:52 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Randy Bush  said:

If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry,
so very sorry.  Especially when it comes to v6.

emacs!

vim!


Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Brian Jeggesen
Check out TIPP;
http://tipp.tobez.org

/Brian

søn. 10. jun. 2018 kl. 22.51 skrev Mike Lyon :

> Title says it all... Currently using IPPlan, but it is kinda antiquated..
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Lyon
> mike.l...@gmail.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert

re: Exa:

Our use case was both on exporting service IPs as well as receiving routes 
from ToRs.  Exa is more geared towards the former than the latter.  Rather 
then working on getting imports and route installation through Exa, we 
found it simpler with BIRD exporting the service IP from it bound to a 
loopback to run local healthchecks on the nodes and then have them yank the 
service IP from the loopback on failing healthchecks in order to stop 
exporting.


But, YMMV etc.

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On Thu 2018-Jun-14 15:07:35 -0400, james jones  wrote:


Yes, that's it.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM Michel 'ic' Luczak 
wrote:



> On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones  wrote:
>
> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot
blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

I guess / hope what you’re trying to achieve is to announce services from
the containers using BGP. If this is the case, what you’re looking for is
called exabgp.

ic





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Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Pierre Emeriaud
2018-06-14 20:56 GMT+02:00 james jones :
> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

If this is to run bgp to the ToR, this is a nice way do have redundant
paths to a server.

Exabgp is a nice tool for this, and a colleague of mine developed
'bagpipe' (https://github.com/Orange-OpenSource/bagpipe-bgp) for this,
now part of openstack
(https://github.com/openstack/networking-bagpipe) but still usable as
a standalone daemon.


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
there's actually a  not insignificant part of the 'network device' world
which is in fact just really a container and "quagga" (or similar).

James, do you care about being close to a 'cisco like' config world?
(quagga)
more programmatic? (exa-bgp, gobgp .. a few others)

something else?

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM Dovid Bender  wrote:

> I know of a telco that has been doing this it helps them be able to move
> around containers and not have constantly configure IP's on servers.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Brielle Bruns  wrote:
>
> > On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:
> >
> >> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the
> best
> >> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot
> blogs
> >> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
> >> looking
> >> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
> >>
> >> -James
> >>
> >>
> > *twitches*
> >
> > Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as
> BGP.
> >
> > --
> > Brielle Bruns
> > The Summit Open Source Development Group
> > http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
> >
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Jörg Kost
Have a peak at
https://osrg.github.io/gobgp/
and
https://github.com/osrg/dockerfiles


On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones wrote:

> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> -James


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Max Tulyev
bird is better than quagga!

(runs away) ;)

14.06.18 21:56, james jones пише:
> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
> 
> -James
> 


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
This is generally in the context of routing-on-the-host setups.  We're 
using BIRD for that in a kubernetes deployment.


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On Thu 2018-Jun-14 13:05:58 -0600, Michael Crapse  wrote:


I agree, i hope that this is for testing/testbench purposes only, or only
running iBGP, as no one in the world would like for you to be running a
public BGP through a docker instance.

On 14 June 2018 at 13:00, Brielle Bruns  wrote:


On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:


I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

-James



*twitches*

Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as BGP.

--
Brielle Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org



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Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread james jones
Yes, that's it.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM Michel 'ic' Luczak 
wrote:

>
> > On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones  wrote:
> >
> > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot
> blogs
> > and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
> looking
> > any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> I guess / hope what you’re trying to achieve is to announce services from
> the containers using BGP. If this is the case, what you’re looking for is
> called exabgp.
>
> ic
>
>
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Scott Whyte




On 6/14/18 11:56 AM, james jones wrote:

I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?


https://docs.cumulusnetworks.com/display/HOSTPACK/Configuring+FRRouting+on+the+Host



-James



Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Crapse
I agree, i hope that this is for testing/testbench purposes only, or only
running iBGP, as no one in the world would like for you to be running a
public BGP through a docker instance.

On 14 June 2018 at 13:00, Brielle Bruns  wrote:

> On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:
>
>> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
>> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
>> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
>> looking
>> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
> *twitches*
>
> Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as BGP.
>
> --
> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michel 'ic' Luczak


> On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones  wrote:
> 
> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

I guess / hope what you’re trying to achieve is to announce services from the 
containers using BGP. If this is the case, what you’re looking for is called 
exabgp.

ic




Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Dovid Bender
I know of a telco that has been doing this it helps them be able to move
around containers and not have constantly configure IP's on servers.



On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Brielle Bruns  wrote:

> On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:
>
>> I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
>> option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
>> and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over
>> looking
>> any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
> *twitches*
>
> Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as BGP.
>
> --
> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
>


Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Brielle Bruns

On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote:

I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

-James



*twitches*

Please don't let this be an actual thing with something as critical as BGP.

--
Brielle Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org


BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread james jones
I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best
option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs
and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking
any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions?

-James