Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Owen DeLong]

You don’t have kids, do you…

They have the attention span of Koi these days. They’ll play most games for 
about 15 minutes or so before downloading the next one. (At least that’s been 
my observation of behavior among my GF’s daughter and her friends).

Owen


> On Mar 13, 2020, at 20:31 , Darin Steffl  wrote:
> 
> Playing games doesn't take much bandwidth. Downloading games does. So as long 
> as everyone already has their games and there's no updates, playing the game 
> is typically under 100 kbps which is negligible compared to streaming video 
> which takes 1 to 25 mbps. 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 8:52 PM Sabri Berisha  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much all 
> public and private schools have closed down. My school district (in Santa 
> Clara County) will be closed until Spring Break.
> 
> The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might 
> cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my 
> videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the 
> necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall). 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sabri 
> 
> 
> - On Mar 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Hugo Slabbert  > wrote:
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
> online based games shutting services down.
>  
> How so?
> 
> Signed,
> 
> Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of this.
> 
> -- 
> Hugo Slabbert   | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com 
> 
> pgp key: B178313E   | also on Signal
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mike Bolitho  > wrote:
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
> online based games shutting services down.
> 
> - Mike Bolitho
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno  > wrote:
> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down here 
> as well, its going to get interesting: 
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>  
> 
> 
> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it on 
> this thread.
> 
> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content 
> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  > wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  
> mailto:li...@1337.io>> wrote:
> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national 
> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into 
> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition? 
> 
> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH, but 
> I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at home for 
> any duration of time.
> 
> 
> People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online. So 
> besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a whole 
> lot of people. 
> 
> 
> Rubens
>  
> 

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Owen DeLong]

My kid has enough homework to reduce her gaming to normal levels.

If your kid doesn’t, perhaps you’ll want to supplement it. ;-)

Owen


> On Mar 13, 2020, at 18:52 , Sabri Berisha  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much all 
> public and private schools have closed down. My school district (in Santa 
> Clara County) will be closed until Spring Break.
> 
> The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might 
> cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my 
> videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the 
> necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall). 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sabri 
> 
> 
> - On Mar 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Hugo Slabbert  wrote:
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
> online based games shutting services down.
>  
> How so?
> 
> Signed,
> 
> Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of this.
> 
> -- 
> Hugo Slabbert   | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com 
> 
> pgp key: B178313E   | also on Signal
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mike Bolitho  > wrote:
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
> online based games shutting services down.
> 
> - Mike Bolitho
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno  > wrote:
> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down here 
> as well, its going to get interesting: 
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>  
> 
> 
> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it on 
> this thread.
> 
> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content 
> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  > wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  
> mailto:li...@1337.io>> wrote:
> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national 
> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into 
> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition? 
> 
> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH, but 
> I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at home for 
> any duration of time.
> 
> 
> People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online. So 
> besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a whole 
> lot of people. 
> 
> 
> Rubens
>  
> 

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Darin Steffl]

Playing games doesn't take much bandwidth. Downloading games does. So as
long as everyone already has their games and there's no updates, playing
the game is typically under 100 kbps which is negligible compared to
streaming video which takes 1 to 25 mbps.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 8:52 PM Sabri Berisha  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much
> all public and private schools have closed down. My school district (in
> Santa Clara County) will be closed until Spring Break.
>
> The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming
> might cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my
> videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the
> necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sabri
>
>
> - On Mar 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Hugo Slabbert  wrote:
>
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
>> online based games shutting services down.
>
>
> How so?
>
> Signed,
>
> Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of
> this.
>
> --
> Hugo Slabbert   | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com
> pgp key: B178313E   | also on Signal
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mike Bolitho 
> wrote:
>
>> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
>> online based games shutting services down.
>>
>> - Mike Bolitho
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno  wrote:
>>
>>> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down
>>> here as well, its going to get interesting:
>>>
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>>>
>>> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it
>>> on this thread.
>>>
>>> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content
>>> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  wrote:
>>>


 On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  wrote:

> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then
> national quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put
> thought into the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to
> fruition?
>
> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are
> WFH, but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck
> at home for any duration of time.
>


 People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them
 online. So besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important
 to a whole lot of people.


 Rubens


>>>
>

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Sabri Berisha]

Hi, 

I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much all 
public and private schools have closed down. My school district (in Santa Clara 
County) will be closed until Spring Break. 

The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might 
cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my 
videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the 
necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall). 

Thanks, 

Sabri 

- On Mar 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Hugo Slabbert  wrote: 

>> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
>> online
>> based games shutting services down.
> How so?

> Signed,

> Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of this.

> --
> Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: [ mailto:h...@slabnet.com | 
> h...@slabnet.com
> ]
> pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal

> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mike Bolitho < [ mailto:mikeboli...@gmail.com 
> |
> mikeboli...@gmail.com ] > wrote:

>> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the 
>> online
>> based games shutting services down.

>> - Mike Bolitho

>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno < [ mailto:ama...@gmail.com |
>> ama...@gmail.com ] > wrote:

>>> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down here 
>>> as
>>> well, its going to get interesting:
>>> [
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>>> |
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>>> ]

>>> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it on 
>>> this
>>> thread.

>>> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content
>>> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.

>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl < [ mailto:rube...@gmail.com |
>>> rube...@gmail.com ] > wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM [ mailto:g...@1337.io | g...@1337.io ] < [
 mailto:li...@1337.io | li...@1337.io ] > wrote:

> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national
> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought 
> into the
> impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition?

> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH, 
> but I
> can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at home 
> for any
> duration of time.

 People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online. So
 besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a 
 whole lot
 of people.

 Rubens

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Hugo Slabbert]

>
> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
> online based games shutting services down.


How so?

Signed,

Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of
this.

-- 
Hugo Slabbert   | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com
pgp key: B178313E   | also on Signal


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mike Bolitho  wrote:

> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
> online based games shutting services down.
>
> - Mike Bolitho
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno  wrote:
>
>> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down
>> here as well, its going to get interesting:
>>
>>
>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>>
>> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it
>> on this thread.
>>
>> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content
>> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  wrote:
>>>
 With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then
 national quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put
 thought into the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to
 fruition?

 We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are
 WFH, but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck
 at home for any duration of time.

>>>
>>>
>>> People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online.
>>> So besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a
>>> whole lot of people.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rubens
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Owen DeLong]

Does that mean Comcast is going to drop my $30/month surcharge for actual 
unlimited?

Owen


> On Mar 13, 2020, at 14:23 , lobna gouda  wrote:
> 
> Hey Networkers,
> 
> Seems other companies will imitate ATT, comcast is giving it free and with 
> the national emergencies universities will work online...etc. Yet this is not 
> US scope, it is worldwide. There is  blog from cloudfare seems interesting 
> about the internet traffic.
> 
> Does other have graph seeing traffic difference?
> 
> https://blog.cloudflare.com/covid-19-impacts-on-internet-traffic-seattle-italy-and-south-korea/
>  
> 
> 
> Brgds,
> 
> LG
>  
> 
> 
> COVID-19 impacts on Internet traffic: Seattle, Northern Italy and South Korea 
> 
> The last few weeks have seen unprecedented changes in how people live and 
> work around the world. Over time more and more companies have given their 
> employees the right to work from home, restricted business travel and, in 
> some cases, outright sent their entire workforce home.
> blog.cloudflare.com 
> 
> From: NANOG  on behalf of Jared Mauch 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:34 PM
> To: Sean Donelan 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
> Subject: Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet 
> customers due to coronavirus
>  
> I do worry if the broadband networks have the capacity. WFH traffic is 
> usually different from regular consumer traffic. My neighbors were telling me 
> about the mandatory work from home they had today and how the VPN struggled 
> to work. 
> 
> To those upgrading those things, keep at it. You will get there. 
> 
> Sent from my iCar
> 
> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The first data cap waiver I've seen due to coronavirus.  I expect other 
> > ISPs to quickly follow.
> > 
> > https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74qzb/atandt-suspends-broadband-usage-caps-during-coronavirus-crisis
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > AT is the first major ISP to confirm that it will be suspending all 
> > broadband usage caps as millions of Americans bunker down in a bid to slow 
> > the rate of COVID-19 expansion. Consumer groups and a coalition of Senators 
> > are now pressuring other ISPs to follow suit.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Mike Bolitho]

I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
online based games shutting services down.

- Mike Bolitho


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno  wrote:

> Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down
> here as well, its going to get interesting:
>
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon
>
> The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it
> on this thread.
>
> Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content
> providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  wrote:
>>
>>> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national
>>> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into
>>> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition?
>>>
>>> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are
>>> WFH, but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck
>>> at home for any duration of time.
>>>
>>
>>
>> People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online.
>> So besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a
>> whole lot of people.
>>
>>
>> Rubens
>>
>>
>

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Ahmed Borno]

Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down here
as well, its going to get interesting:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon

The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing about it on
this thread.

Maybe its a good time to start a communication channel between content
providers/gaming companies and ISPs/CDNs.


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rubens Kuhl  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  wrote:
>
>> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national
>> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into
>> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition?
>>
>> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH,
>> but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at
>> home for any duration of time.
>>
>
>
> People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online.
> So besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a
> whole lot of people.
>
>
> Rubens
>
>

Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[lobna gouda]

Hey Networkers,

Seems other companies will imitate ATT, comcast is giving it free and with the 
national emergencies universities will work online...etc. Yet this is not US 
scope, it is worldwide. There is  blog from cloudfare seems interesting about 
the internet traffic.

Does other have graph seeing traffic difference?

https://blog.cloudflare.com/covid-19-impacts-on-internet-traffic-seattle-italy-and-south-korea/

Brgds,

LG
[https://blog-cloudflare-com-assets.storage.googleapis.com/2020/03/facebook-linked_image___italy-january-c...@3x.png]
COVID-19 impacts on Internet traffic: Seattle, Northern Italy and South 
Korea
The last few weeks have seen unprecedented changes in how people live and work 
around the world. Over time more and more companies have given their employees 
the right to work from home, restricted business travel and, in some cases, 
outright sent their entire workforce home.
blog.cloudflare.com



From: NANOG  on behalf of Jared Mauch 

Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:34 PM
To: Sean Donelan 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers 
due to coronavirus

I do worry if the broadband networks have the capacity. WFH traffic is usually 
different from regular consumer traffic. My neighbors were telling me about the 
mandatory work from home they had today and how the VPN struggled to work.

To those upgrading those things, keep at it. You will get there.

Sent from my iCar

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
> 
> The first data cap waiver I've seen due to coronavirus.  I expect other ISPs 
> to quickly follow.
>
> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74qzb/atandt-suspends-broadband-usage-caps-during-coronavirus-crisis
>
> AT is the first major ISP to confirm that it will be suspending all 
> broadband usage caps as millions of Americans bunker down in a bid to slow 
> the rate of COVID-19 expansion. Consumer groups and a coalition of Senators 
> are now pressuring other ISPs to follow suit.

oinky attribute

[Randy Bush]

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randy

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Rubens Kuhl]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io  wrote:

> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national
> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into
> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition?
>
> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH,
> but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at
> home for any duration of time.
>


People will turn to you and every other ISP hoping you keep them online. So
besides demand issues, keeping your network up will be important to a whole
lot of people.


Rubens

Weekly Routing Table Report

[Routing Analysis Role Account]

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG
TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

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If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith .

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 14 Mar, 2020

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  799559
Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS):  304239
Deaggregation factor:  2.63
Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets):  391217
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 67362
Prefixes per ASN: 11.87
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   57867
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   24249
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:9495
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:283
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.4
Max AS path length visible:  36
Max AS path prepend of ASN (206156)  26
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:  1197
Number of instances of unregistered ASNs:  1197
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:  30923
Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:   25477
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:  117614
Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:14
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:1
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:   1126
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2852326016
Equivalent to 170 /8s, 3 /16s and 10 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   77.0
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   77.0
Percentage of available address space allocated:  100.0
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   99.5
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  268671

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:   211457
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   61605
APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.43
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:  204378
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:85284
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   10426
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   19.60
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   2878
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   1547
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.6
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 35
Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:   5486
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  766440960
Equivalent to 45 /8s, 174 /16s and 246 /24s
APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319,
   58368-59391, 63488-64098, 64297-64395, 131072-141625
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  39/8,  42/8,  43/8,
49/8,  58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 103/8,
   106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8,
   116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8,
   123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8,
   163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:234015
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:   107865
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.17
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   231510
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks:117717
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:18394
ARIN Prefixes per ASN:12.59
ARIN 

FCC: ISPs pledge to keep connectivity during Coronavirus Pandemic

[Sean Donelan]

Lots of press releases.  Dozens of ISPs have agreed to FCC 
Chairman Pai's "pledge" to keep connectivity for customers impacted by 
disruptions caused by the coronavirus pandemic.




https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363033A1.pdf

The Keep Americans Connected Pledge reads as follows:
Given the coronavirus pandemic and its impact on American society, 
[[Company Name]] pledges for the next 60 days to:


(1) not terminate service to any residential or small business customers 
because of their inability to pay their bills due to the disruptions 
caused by the coronavirus pandemic;


(2) waive any late fees that any residential or small business customers 
incur because of their economic circumstances related to the coronavirus 
pandemic; and


(3) open its Wi-Fi hotspots to any American who needs them.



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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Ben Cannon]

Oh they do, we just don’t like having to explain to our customers anything 
other than “we’ve fixed it before you called.”  I hate downtime.


-Ben Cannon
CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
b...@6by7.net 




> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Fletcher Kittredge  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ben;
> 
> I am sure your SLA's have force majeure clauses. I mean, they must, right?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:57 PM Ben Cannon  > wrote:
> We’ve already had 1 building delay us access pushing us into an SLA breach 
> due to COVID-19 fuckups. I mean “procedures".
> -Ben.
> 
> -Ben Cannon
> CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
> b...@6by7.net 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:22 AM, g...@1337.io  
>> mailto:li...@1337.io>> wrote:
>> 
>> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national 
>> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into 
>> the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition? 
>> 
>> We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH, 
>> but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at 
>> home for any duration of time.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Fletcher Kittredge
> GWI
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Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Steve Meuse]

But why do they peak in the late evening? 'cause that's when folks are
home.

If you now have a houseful of work-from-home and school-from-home people,
we could, potentially, see the curve change, especially if folks are
working and watching netflix/youtube,  etc.

I suspect rather than the peak dropping at all, the peak will stretch over
a longer time period.

-Steve





On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:50 PM Tom Paseka via NANOG 
wrote:

> I am not worried. Residential ISPs are usually at peak in the late
> evening. They have loads of capacity during the day.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:35 PM Jared Mauch  wrote:
>
>> I do worry if the broadband networks have the capacity. WFH traffic is
>> usually different from regular consumer traffic. My neighbors were telling
>> me about the mandatory work from home they had today and how the VPN
>> struggled to work.
>>
>> To those upgrading those things, keep at it. You will get there.
>>
>> Sent from my iCar
>>
>> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > The first data cap waiver I've seen due to coronavirus.  I expect other
>> ISPs to quickly follow.
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74qzb/atandt-suspends-broadband-usage-caps-during-coronavirus-crisis
>> >
>> > AT is the first major ISP to confirm that it will be suspending all
>> broadband usage caps as millions of Americans bunker down in a bid to slow
>> the rate of COVID-19 expansion. Consumer groups and a coalition of Senators
>> are now pressuring other ISPs to follow suit.
>>
>

Re: Anyone here from Amazon AS16509 - LINX Exchange Prefixes

[William Herrin]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:45 AM S L  wrote:
> Is there anyone on here from Amazon, they appear to have stopped advertising 
> all of their prefixes on the LINX exchange since Sunday.
>
> Emailing their peeringdb contacts yields no response, they only ever seem to 
> respond when they want something from you.
>
> Them withdrawing their prefixes seems to be becoming a regular thing on LINX.

Hi Scott,

When you have a large number of geographically dispersed peering
points, BGP starts to make some unexpected choices. I've seen traffic
from China to Taiwan transit Los Angeles despite a dozen closer
peering points because the AS path was shorter.

When Amazon has a problem with a system component, anything from
hardware failure to customer complaint to metrics that reveal a
performance issue, the go-to mitigation is to remove that component
from service and let the remainder take the load. Restoration is then
triaged. It will definitely wait for root-cause analysis and change to
the automated configuration and may have to wait for software
development as well. Unless the metrics with the component out of
service reveal a significant impairment or a major paying customer
complains, it won't triage to a high priority.

All of which is to say: even if you could get a response from them,
they wouldn't restore the BGP announcements any sooner. Sucks, but
that's how it is. If that peering is important to you, you're going to
want to peer in additional locations.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

-- 
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b...@herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/

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Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Jeff Shultz]

But it's so much fun to market that we don't have caps - and our cable
competitor does. Expensive ones, too.

Never stop your enemy when they are making a mistake.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clayton Zekelman  wrote:
>
> No they didn't do the right thing.   The right
> thing would have been to eliminate the caps a decade ago.
>

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Anyone here from Amazon AS16509 - LINX Exchange Prefixes

[S L]

 Hey all,

Is there anyone on here from Amazon, they appear to have stopped
advertising all of their prefixes on the LINX exchange since Sunday.

Emailing their peeringdb contacts yields no response, they only ever seem
to respond when they want something from you.

Them withdrawing their prefixes seems to be becoming a regular thing on
LINX.

Thanks,
Scott

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Keaton Alexander Guger Lair]

First time posting, little anxious.

Currently under isolation here in Saskatchewan, it was a self isolation till 
met with a doctor who ordered it,
I doubt was at risk, was in Southern Italy as Northern Italy was breaking out.
Rather disappointed with the provinces "meh" maybe come in and get tested, 
"meh" maybe not.
As I've read there are no restrictions on incoming passengers, citizens or not. 
Quarantining is only done if you report you've been to the Hubei province.
Citizens and PRs have to be let in, period, part of the charter (section 6) 
although being let in whilst under quarantine and being let out into the public 
are two different things, both are legal.

Little surprised Canada doesn't have higher cases than we do.

Once concern I've been thinking about is hardware maintenance under lock downs 
and quarantines.
Do politicians allow people only out to repair? or will they allow 
organizations and
their employees to be out and do expansion to deal with the enviable surge in 
traffic?

What about in Italy where only pharmacies and groceries are open and entropy 
hits equipment?

Stay safe, isolate your subnets and yourself ;)

Sincerely,
 Keaton Alexander Guger Lair
 Red Lily Internet

On 2020-03-13 3:01 a.m., Keith Medcalf wrote:
> On Thursday, 12 March, 2020 20:37, Valdis Kletnieks
>  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:05 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
>>> I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United
>>> States as it is now a Hot Spot for the unrestricted spread of the 
>>> coronavirus which causes COVID-19.
>> Hopefully they're more sensible restrictions than the US policy that
>> prohibits travel from most of Europe except the UK... but only for 
>> foreigners.  If you're a US citizen, you're still perfectly welcome 
>> to go to Italy and come home with a few extra microbes to pass around 
>> a week after you return.
> No idea what the policy for foreigners is, as that is a matter of
> Federal jurisdiction.  And our Prime Minister is currently in
> "self-isolation" apparently. 
>
>> The word for anybody who designs a network firewall with that sort of
>> logic is "pwned".  Just sayin'.
> These are Provincial policies.  The Federal Government cannot prohibit
> Canadian citizens from entering Canada but the Province is in charge of
> matter of Health and Civil Rights, so as soon as they enter the Province
> from outside Canada they are "requested" to self-isolate for 14-days.
> This is for citizens.  Don't know what the policy is for non-Canadians.
>
>> (Fortunately, I'm in a position to hide in my apartment and only
> emerge
>> for grocery shopping at 2AM until things wind down... Hope everybody
> else
>> has a good contingency plan)
> Yeah, sounds like a plan.
>

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Brian K Miller]

I am on the university enterprise network side and on the state research and 
education network ISP-ish side.  Our users are the ones that will no longer be 
using either network, and going to their home connections, so my focus has been 
dealing with "AHHH something is broken" and it being that the user never used 
wifi for work at home, or 5 or 6 users go "AH we just dropped our RDP 
sessions" during the last couple of days.  After teaching users traceroute and 
how to google "what is my IPv4 address" they were on the same ISP, crossing a 
peering point that is historically congested, but is already getting worse the 
first day of the "trial" for important staff.

I am only going to be running traceroutes back and forth for like the next 
couple to few weeks or however long I am on house arrest.  They closed our 
campus after spring break, which starts at 5pm tomorrow (as does my fun week of 
maintenances), currently for another week.

I have never been so fearful of an IX as I am today.

Brian Miller
Network Engineering and Architecture
Clemson University and the C-Light Network
AS2721, AS2722, AS12148

On 3/12/20, 2:45 PM, "NANOG on behalf of g...@1337.io" 
 wrote:

With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national 
quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into the 
impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition? 

We're already pushing the limits with telecommuters / those that are WFH, 
but I can only imagine what things will look like with everyone stuck at home 
for any duration of time.

Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Ben Cannon]

Effing. This.

-Ben

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Mark Tinka  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13/Mar/20 02:02, Clayton Zekelman wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No they didn't do the right thing.   The right thing would have been
>> to eliminate the caps a decade ago.
> 
> Don't get me started on this :-).
> 
> Mark.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Mark Tinka]

On 13/Mar/20 04:36, Valdis Kl ē tnieks wrote:

>
> (Fortunately, I'm in a position to hide in my apartment and only emerge for
> grocery shopping at 2AM until things wind down... Hope everybody else has a
> good contingency plan)

I generally work from home most days of the month anyway... get more
done this way :-). So the change for me isn't a huge one.

But it will be interesting to see how the rest of my colleagues evolve
with this.

Mark.



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Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Mark Tinka]

On 13/Mar/20 04:00, Jared Mauch wrote:

> Yes, this is what I’m concerned about.  Most of the content/cloud people have 
> built networks around the capacity needed to get bits into the networks and 
> often aggressively peer.
>
> The corporate office that is behind one incumbent that now has a global set 
> of people doing VPN activities at 10x the prior capacity of a week ago may 
> have a harder time fitting.

What we've done, over the years, is build OpenVPN servers both in the
office as well as the local data centre within the same city. This way,
staff have the option of connecting to either one, whether for reasons
of balancing load, managing office outages, accounting for maintenance,
e.t.c.

I generally connect to the one in the data centre, because then I'm
avoiding our local Metro-E network to get to the office one :-). But
some times, one of them won't be available, so having the option for a
2nd local one is always good.

Mark.

Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

[Mark Tinka]

On 13/Mar/20 02:02, Clayton Zekelman wrote:

>
>
> No they didn't do the right thing.   The right thing would have been
> to eliminate the caps a decade ago.

Don't get me started on this :-).

Mark.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

[Mark Tinka]

On 12/Mar/20 21:37, Jared Mauch wrote:

> I’m expecting that despite the usual game and download/streaming events, the 
> baseline usage during the daytime is going to tick up significantly eating 
> into network margin.  Hopefully everyone has your upgrades on order due to 
> the aforementioned lead-time issues.  Hopefully everything is back to normal 
> in 4-6 weeks.

On this side of the world, no major policies yet to force staff to work
from home.

But we are currently facing plenty of power generation shortages in
South Africa specifically, and while offices have generators and such,
most homes do not. So the problem with working from home is some people
won't be able to until they either install alternative power sources or
national power generation normalizes.

Over the years, we've built a myriad of pfSense-based OpenVPN servers
across several countries and cities so staff can always connect to the
closest one when traveling or working from home. Traffic flow is 
non-split, and because they've been upgraded almost every year, we don't
anticipate load issues if more people are out of the office.

We've reduced reliance on internal VoIP PABX systems for conference
calls since dumping WebEx and going Zoom nearly 2 years ago. Everyone
knows how to use it, and we use it rather frequently, so folk can still
have their meetings as usual.

Mark.