Re: How big is the Internet? - about the size of a strawberry

2013-08-14 Thread Jayram Deshpande
If we try to comprehend the Internet in terms of number of boxes that can reach 
from their local networks to globally routable destinations, we have to take 
into account Multi- NATed , multi-tunneled (ipv6 over ipv4 in a VPLS , and 
other crazy scenarios such v6 over v4 in a VPLS running over VXLANs : is that 
even realistic ? ) overlay networking environments. So also the overlays formed 
to talk to sensors who can understand say TM/TC ( Telemetry/Tele-commands). 

In terms of the  Address space , the problem statement shows more convergence. 


Regards,
-Jay

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On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:06 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:32:13AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
 
 Researchers have complained for years about the lack of good
 statistics about the internet for a couple fo decades, since the
 end of NSFNET statistics.
 
 What are the current estimates about the size of the Internet, all IP
 networks including managed IP and private IP, and all telecommunications
 including analog voice, video, sensor data, etc?
 
 CAIDA, ITU, Telegeography and some vendors like Cisco have released
 forecasts and estimates.  There are occasional pieces of information
 stated by companies in their investor documents (SEC 10-K, etc).
 
thats easy...   the number of allocated IPv4 /32s and the 
number of allocated IPv6 /64s.  By definition, private
networks (RFC 1918) space is not part of the Internet.
 
Or, is your question actually the absolute number of globally
reachable IP addresses at any given instant?  (reachable from where?)
 
Or do you mean anything that might have an IP address associated with 
it at some time in its existance?
 
Clarity would be helpful if you want a repeatable answer.
 
 /bill
 
 



Re: ISIS and OSPF together

2013-05-15 Thread Jayram Deshpande


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On May 12, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Glen Kent glen.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 The other instance would be when say OSPF is used to manage the OOB network
 and the ISIS is used for network reachability.
 
 Is there any other scenario?


Yes,  in virtualization world , where people no more want to waste their links 
that form loops, there are scenarios where you may have a TRILL deployment that 
runs over IS-IS while you have OSPF running side by side. 

-Jay