Re: Opengear alternatives that support 5g?

[Mike Lyon]

Mel,My apologies, i confused one mikrotik with another model. You are correct.I would also check out CradlePoint and Teltonika as well. Teltonika Networksteltonika-networks.comCheers,MikeOn Apr 26, 2024, at 23:06, Mel Beckman  wrote:




Mike,




Thanks for that info. Alas, I’m not seeing any Mikrotik 5G devices cheaper than a ~$500  Peplink. Am I misunderstanding your suggested solution? 


 -mel


On Apr 26, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:






Peplink is nice, but there are cheaper options: Mikrotik-dot-com







Then for cellular service, sign up for an IOT with an IOT MVNO that bills usage based (and can also offer you a static, public, IP address AND will also allow you to build a VPN across all of your devices) such as SimBase:
  simbase-dot-com









Cheers,
Mike

On Apr 26, 2024, at 21:37, Mel Beckman  wrote:




 I’ve been loooking at the $600 Peplink MAX BR1-MINI (HW3) industrial 5G router. It has a 1x embedded 5G modem (Verizon, AT, T-Mobile, and FirstNet). three GigE ports, four antenna connectors, and comes with an stick antenna set and AC PS.
  It uses a nanoSIM. Yes, it’s a pure IP router with no knowledge of serial protocols. So I would just put an air console behind it to get to my serial ports. I’m still evaluating 5G plans, and Verizon just offered an amazing $15 per month unlimited data deal,
 but it seems to have a 50 gig limit before you get to throttling. That might not matter at all with serial traffic though.


We've been using the Netgear 4G cellular router, but that’s becoming increasingly unreliable. The NG has a nailed up IPsec VPN tunnel, obviating the need for a static IP, and the keepalive traffic is low enough that it doesn’t cost us much on the 4G network.
 I’m hoping 5G will be even cheaper and faster. 


I’d love to see if anybody found anything better before I spring for a Peplink test unit.



 -mel

On Apr 26, 2024, at 9:45 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:






















On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:43 AM, Saku Ytti 
<s...@ytti.fi> wrote:



On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 03:11, David H <ispcolohost@gmail.com> wrote:



Curious if anyone has particular hardware they like for OOB / serial management, similar to OpenGear, but preferably with 5G support, maybe even T-Mobile support? It’s becoming increasingly difficult to get static IP 4g machine accounts out of Verizon,
 and the added speed would be nice too. Or do you separate the serial from the access device (cell+firewall, etc.)?



You could get a 5G Catalyst with an async NIM or SM. 

But I think you're setting up yourself for unnecessary costs and failures by designing your OOB to require static IP. You could design it so that the OOB spokes dial-in to the central OOB hub, and the OOB hub doesn't care what IP they come from,
 using certificates or PSK for identity, instead of IP.













Yup, I agree — but that simply rewrites the question to be:

"Curious if anyone has particular hardware they like for OOB / serial management, similar to OpenGear, but preferably with 5G support, which can be a spoke that dials in to the central OOB hub, and the OOB hub doesn't care what IP they come from, using
 certificates or PSK for identity, instead of IP."



I've been on the same quest, and I have some additional requests / features. Ideally it:



1: would be small - my particular use-case is for a "traveling rack", and so 0U is preferred.



2: would be fairly cheap.



3: would not be a Raspberry-Pi, a USB hub and USB-to-serial cables. We tried that for a while, and it was clunky — the SD card died a few times (and jumped out entirely once!), people kept futzing with the OS and fighting over which console software to
 use, installing other packages, etc.



4: support modern SSH clients (it seems like you shouldn't have to say this, but… )



5: actually be designed as a termserver - the current thing we are using doesn't really understand terminals, and so we need to use 'socat -,raw,echo=0,escape=0x1d TCP::' to get things like tab-completion and "up-arrow for last command"
 to work.



6: support logging of serial (e.g crash-messages) to some sort of log / buffer / similar (it's useful to be able to see what a device barfed all over the console when it crashes. 





The Get Console Airconsole TS series meets many of these requirements, but it doesn't do #6. It also doesn't really feel like they have been updating / maintaining these.



Yes, I fully acknowledge that #3 falls into the "Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I do this" camp, but, well…



W














-- 
++ytti

Re: Opengear alternatives that support 5g?

[Mike Lyon]

Peplink is nice, but there are cheaper options:MikroTikmikrotik.comThen for cellular service, sign up for an IOT with an IOT MVNO that bills usage based (and can also offer you a static, public, IP address AND will also allow you to build a VPN across all of your devices) such as SimBase: Seamless IoT SIM Card Solutionssimbase.comCheers,MikeOn Apr 26, 2024, at 21:37, Mel Beckman  wrote:




I’ve been loooking at the $600 Peplink MAX BR1-MINI (HW3) industrial 5G router. It has a 1x embedded 5G modem (Verizon, AT, T-Mobile, and FirstNet). three GigE ports, four antenna connectors, and comes with an stick antenna set and AC PS.  It uses a nanoSIM.
 Yes, it’s a pure IP router with no knowledge of serial protocols. So I would just put an air console behind it to get to my serial ports. I’m still evaluating 5G plans, and Verizon just offered an amazing $15 per month unlimited data deal, but it seems to
 have a 50 gig limit before you get to throttling. That might not matter at all with serial traffic though.


We've been using the Netgear 4G cellular router, but that’s becoming increasingly unreliable. The NG has a nailed up IPsec VPN tunnel, obviating the need for a static IP, and the keepalive traffic is low enough that it doesn’t cost us much on the 4G network.
 I’m hoping 5G will be even cheaper and faster. 


I’d love to see if anybody found anything better before I spring for a Peplink test unit.



 -mel

On Apr 26, 2024, at 9:45 AM, Warren Kumari  wrote:






















On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:43 AM, Saku Ytti 
 wrote:



On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 03:11, David H  wrote:



Curious if anyone has particular hardware they like for OOB / serial management, similar to OpenGear, but preferably with 5G support, maybe even T-Mobile support? It’s becoming increasingly difficult to get static IP 4g machine accounts out of Verizon,
 and the added speed would be nice too. Or do you separate the serial from the access device (cell+firewall, etc.)?



You could get a 5G Catalyst with an async NIM or SM. 

But I think you're setting up yourself for unnecessary costs and failures by designing your OOB to require static IP. You could design it so that the OOB spokes dial-in to the central OOB hub, and the OOB hub doesn't care what IP they come from,
 using certificates or PSK for identity, instead of IP.













Yup, I agree — but that simply rewrites the question to be:

"Curious if anyone has particular hardware they like for OOB / serial management, similar to OpenGear, but preferably with 5G support, which can be a spoke that dials in to the central OOB hub, and the OOB hub doesn't care what IP they come from, using
 certificates or PSK for identity, instead of IP."



I've been on the same quest, and I have some additional requests / features. Ideally it:



1: would be small - my particular use-case is for a "traveling rack", and so 0U is preferred.



2: would be fairly cheap.



3: would not be a Raspberry-Pi, a USB hub and USB-to-serial cables. We tried that for a while, and it was clunky — the SD card died a few times (and jumped out entirely once!), people kept futzing with the OS and fighting over which console software to
 use, installing other packages, etc.



4: support modern SSH clients (it seems like you shouldn't have to say this, but… )



5: actually be designed as a termserver - the current thing we are using doesn't really understand terminals, and so we need to use 'socat -,raw,echo=0,escape=0x1d TCP::' to get things like tab-completion and "up-arrow for last command"
 to work.



6: support logging of serial (e.g crash-messages) to some sort of log / buffer / similar (it's useful to be able to see what a device barfed all over the console when it crashes. 





The Get Console Airconsole TS series meets many of these requirements, but it doesn't do #6. It also doesn't really feel like they have been updating / maintaining these.



Yes, I fully acknowledge that #3 falls into the "Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I do this" camp, but, well…



W














-- 
++ytti

Re: Unimus as NCM (Network Configuration Management) Tool

[Mike Lyon]

I use it for config backups, diffs, etc. Love it.

Theres others such as Rancid but im not sure if it works on anything other than 
Vendor C.

-Mike

> On Apr 3, 2024, at 23:16, Shahid Shafi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Network Experts,
> 
> Is anyone using Unimus as your main NCM tool in production? I am looking at 
> an NCM tool that can scale upto 10,000 to 15,000 Network Devices. Do you 
> recommend any other solution? The solution should atleast able to support 
> network config backups, diffs, and basic network auditing features.
> 
> https://unimus.net/
> 
> thanks
> Shahid

Re: Vint Cerf Re: Backward Compatibility Re: IPv4 address block

[Mike Lyon]

Some of us still use pine…-MikeOn Jan 13, 2024, at 12:57, Abraham Y. Chen  wrote:

  

  
  
Hi, Gary:
0)    My apologies!
1)    I thought that I am one of only a few who
insist on using the most basic tools that get the job done, such
preferring hand tools than power tools if possible. I believed
that the ThunderBird eMail client software was pretty basic.
Your message just reminds me that there are colleagues here
probably still using plain text editors for eMail?
I shall keep this in mind for my future eMails.
Regards,

  
Abe (2024-01-13 15:54)







On 2024-01-13 14:45, Gary E. Miller
  wrote:


  Yo Abraham!

On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:35:09 -0500
"Abraham Y. Chen"  wrote:


  
     FYI - Please see the below copy of a partial eMail thread. Bold, 
red colored and Italicized letters are to focus on the topic.

  
  Uh, you realize many of us never see your red or italics?

RGDS
GARY
---
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	g...@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

	Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
"If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin




  Virus-free.www.avast.com 

Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior...

[Mike Lyon]

I notice a weird issue like this with Alibaba when i try to use my Comcast 
connection. Turn my wifi off and now it works flawlessly.

Are you using your comcast connection?

-Mike

> On Dec 9, 2023, at 21:17, Stephane Bortzmeyer  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 09:55:31PM -0800,
> Owen DeLong via NANOG  wrote
> a message of 1136 lines which said:
> 
>> But why would AliExpress be redirecting to DDN space? Is this
>> legitimate? Ali hoping to get away with squatting, or something
>> else?
> 
> No idea. The IP address does not reply to HTTP requests, anyway. A
> practical joke?
> 
> Note that this redirection takes places only when there is no
> User-Agent field. If you say 'User-Agent: Mozilla', you get a proper
> redirection, in my case to https://fr.aliexpress.com/.

Re: Advantages and disadvantages of legacy assets

[Mike Lyon]

I’ve been using AltDB for years. Works great and is indeed, free.

The fine folks at FCIX have taken over the project and manage it now.

Lots of good documentstion out there for it as well.

-Mike

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:15, William Herrin  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:22 AM o...@delong.com  wrote:
 On Nov 21, 2023, at 01:38, William Herrin  wrote:
>>> Disadvantages: Expensive IRR. No RPKI. No vote in ARIN elections. No
>>> legal clarity regarding the status of your resources.
>> 
>> Expensive IRR? ALTDB is free?
> 
> I don't know anything about ALTDB. RADB is pricey.
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:16 AM owen--- via NANOG  wrote:
>> Apparently, Tata is rejecting routes that have neither RPKI nor an RIR-based 
>> IRR record created after 1993.
> 
> Are you sure? The way I read it, that policy applies to -customer-
> announced routes, not broad Internet routes received from peers and
> transit.
> 
> It still seems unwise, but not entirely insane.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> --
> William Herrin
> b...@herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/

Re: ESPN streaming issues

[Mike Lyon]

Check your blocks on the various databases here and see which ones are reporting as out of the country:IP Geolocation and VPN Resourcesthebrotherswisp.comThen follow-up with those individual DBs to get the locations corrected.You should be all set.-MikeOn Oct 24, 2023, at 20:32, Brad Bendy  wrote:Anyone have a contact for ESPN or can someone contact me off list?Have a good amount of IP space that just started reporting the IP isout of the country.Thanks

Re: ARIN email address (was cogent spamming directly from ARIN records?)

[Mike Lyon]

Give it time :)

-Mike

> On Oct 3, 2023, at 18:06, Owen DeLong via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> But I seem to have finally gotten Cogent trained not to spam this one, so I 
> think I’ll leave it as is.
> 
> YMMV
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 08:52, Bryan Fields  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/2/23 11:28 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
>>> I believe they got the contact information from ARIN
>> 
>> I'd suggest everyone use an alias unique to ARIN for your POC and/or public 
>> email.  Makes it super simple to verify where it was sourced from.
>> 
>> (and yes I've got the same spam)
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>> 
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> http://bryanfields.net
> 

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

[Mike Lyon]

Apparently i ruffled some feathers with my reply about Cogent.My apologies to the list for my blunt reply…Y’all have a good weekend now.-MikeOn Sep 29, 2023, at 10:43, Valerie Wittkop  wrote:There is one person that reviews the moderation queue of the NANOG list. My morning was rather hectic, and I didn’t get to the queue until just before 12:30 EDT today. Apologies to all for the delay in the messages of this thread. Please note  I try to check the queue a few times throughout the day, and one last time again before I shut down for the night. 
Valerie WittkopProgram Directorvwitt...@nanog.org | +1 734-730-0225 (mobile) | www.nanog.orgNANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USAASN 19230

On Sep 29, 2023, at 13:36, Ryan Hamel  wrote:Matt,It's not just you or Google, I just got those emails to my Office 365 at the same time. My guess is that the list admins/moderators got the emails and just responded without approving the moderated emails.RyanFrom: NANOG  on behalf of Matthew Petach Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:31 AMTo: VOLKAN SALİH Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments.On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:42 AM VOLKAN SALİH  wrote:[...]I presume there would be another 50 big ASNs that belong to CDNs. And I am pretty sure those top 100 networks can invest in gear to support /25-/27.Volkan,So far, you haven't presented any good financial reason those top 100 networks should spend millions of dollars to upgrade their networks just so your /27 can be multihomed.Sure, they *can* invest in gear to support /25-/27; but they won't, because there's no financial benefit for them to do so.I know from *your* side of the table, it would make your life better if everyone would accept /27 prefixes--multihoming for the masses, yay!Try standing in their shoes for a minute, though. You need to spend tens of millions of dollars on a multi-year refresh cycle to upgrade hundreds of routers in your global backbone, tying up network engineering resources on upgrades that at the end, will bring you exactly $0 in additional revenue.Imagine you're the COO or CTO of a Fortune 500 network, and you're meeting with your CFO to pitch this idea.You know your CFO is going to ask one question right off the bat "what's the timeframe for us to recoup the cost ofthis upgrade?" (hint, he's looking for a number less than 40 months).If your answer is "well, we're never going to recoup the cost.  It won't bring us any additional customers, it won't bring us any additional revenue, and it won't make our existing customers any happier with us.  But it will make it easier for some of our smaller compeitors to sign up new customers." I can pretty much guarantee your meeting with the CFO will end right there.If you want networks to do this, you need to figure out a way for it to make financial sense for them to do it.So far, you haven't presented anything that would make it a win-win scenario for the ISPs and CDNs that would need to upgrade to support this.ON a separate note--NANOG mailing list admins, I'm noting that Vokan's emails just arrived a few minutes ago in my gmail inbox.However,  I saw replies to his messages from others on the list yesterday, a day before they made it to the general list.Is there a backed up queue somewhere in the NANOG list processing that is delaying some messages sent to the list by up to a full day?If not, I'll just blame gmail for selectively delaying portions of NANOG for 18+ hours.   ^_^;Thanks!Matt

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

[Mike Lyon]

Cogent can go fuck themselves. They deserve no charity from Mr. Leber (or 
anyone else, for that matter).

Cogent was the basis for multiple peering wars over the last 20+ years because 
of their greediness.

Cogent illegally scraped ARIN’s records for contact information for their sales 
teams.

Cogent sales reps are the scum of the earth and use relentless sales tactics. 

I refuse to use their services, even they gave it to me free, and ive told them 
that.

Cogent can eat a dick.

-Mike

> On Sep 29, 2023, at 09:44, VOLKAN SALİH  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can we get single-homed and dual-homed ASN counts worldwide by somebody here?
> 
> Checking, https://bgp.he.net/country/US , more than half of networks are 
> either single-homed or dual-homed.
> 
> single-homed networks do not need full-table, for sure. Dual homed networks 
> need to buy partial transit from the notorious tier-1.5 network that has "NO" 
> (close the doors) peering policy, that you know their name.. Then route other 
> traffic via cheapest second Transit Provider..
> 
> BTW, Thanks Mr. M.Leber for shitting in the world-wide IPv6 internet (causing 
> segmentation in the IPv6 world), I guess he thinks FREE means FEELESS while 
> it means mostly freedom..
> 
> It seems like Mr. M.Leber believes dictatorship instead of freedom. Wake up, 
> Nobody have to do peer with you for free (settlement-free), but you can 
> negotiate the price/mbps.
> 
> 
> 
> 29.09.2023 08:01 tarihinde VOLKAN SALİH yazdı:
>> CGNAT is not worse any more, IMHO. 
>> 
>> with Endpoint-independent-NAT you can accept incoming connections, as soon 
>> as you open the port automatically by sending packet to any host. Then any 
>> host can start connection to your host? thats perfect for gamers, streamers, 
>> webmasters.. etc.. Allows P2P connections..
>> 
>> for server setups, how many common ports you need to forward? five or ten, 
>> maybe. not that bad. if it is scripted, then it is automated. if its 
>> automated then it is not headache for network administrator..
>> 
>> There are just about 50 major NSP networks on the Earth, that needs to use 
>> BGP full-table.
>> 
>> I presume there would be another 50 big ASNs that belong to CDNs. And I am 
>> pretty sure those top 100 networks can invest in gear to support /25-/27.
>> 
>> I would suggest Tier3 eyeballs to mark connection depending on incoming 
>> interface (transit provider). Then route outgoing traffic of connections via 
>> same interface (TP). Thats all they need to do. if they do not optimize BGP 
>> based on packetloss rate and latency (performance).
>> 
>> Please Correct me if i am wrong.
>> 
>> Thanks and regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 29.09.2023 07:48 tarihinde Owen DeLong yazdı:
>>> I presume you mean CGNAT? Otherwise, not sure what EINAT is and couldn’t 
>>> find
>>> a reference with a quick google search.
>>> 
>>> Again agree to disagree. NAT is bad and more NAT is just worse.

Re: Google Contact

[Mike Lyon]

https://www.peeringdb.com/net/433

Please read the notes in their PeeringDB entry. It lists instructions
on how to set that up.

Cheers,
Mike

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 1:07 PM Pascal Masha  wrote:
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> Anyone from Google who can assist setup BGP peering through SFMIX IX, kindly 
> contact me off list.
>
> Thanks
> Regards
>
> Paschal Masha



-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

JunOS/FRR/Nokia et al BGP critical issue

[Mike Lyon]

Ran across this article today and haven't seen posts about it so i
figured I would share:

https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/bgp-path-attributes-grave-error-handling?fbclid=IwAR13ePY43Vf3u4X8PDyCDT39DtyXczAKkv6CGXOQbcQv90Y3aIAmTkJxn7k_aem_Ad0hzj2Mh_WlbFZug-vGdlJJdXr2Xo0RFIsPwAU2GviPz6xZDib76YHwFuzU7E0_sJk=Zxz2cZ

Curious if anyone on the list is running VyOS and has experienced any problems?

Cheers,
Mike

-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

[Mike Lyon]

Not many physical paths available in that area. I would assume there are also a handful of wireless paths as well.Plus, it’s likely most of the cell sites burnt down during the fires.-MikeOn Aug 15, 2023, at 22:54, TJ Trout  wrote:I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui died? Does every carrier single-home via waves served out of the Lahaina CO? Or maybe they aren't allowed to have generators in Maui? Seems like they would have diverse paths to major sitesOn Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:55 PM scott  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 5:21 PM scott via NANOG  
>     On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>      > It's like a war zone.
> 
>     Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
>     edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the hotspot areas
>     and
>     get internet access.


On 8/16/23 12:39 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

 > Scott: Just an FYI that anecdotal reports from social media coming in or
 > stating that residents have been unable to connect to the Wi-Fi hotspots
 > that the local government have been promoting in the Lahaina area.
--


I don't have anything to do with that as I work in the core and we got 
the node up for west Maui, so I am done. (:  But I wonder if those are 
different wifis.  I'd imagine the focus now is plant poles, hang fiber 
and get the Access part of the network fully up before getting those up, 
if they're the same ones.

scott

Re: Cogent Abuse - Bogus Propagation of ASN 36471

[Mike Lyon]

I've told all Cogent reps that have ever called me that I would never,
under any circumstances, use their service. even if they provided it
to me free of charge...

Friends don't let friends use Cogent.

-Mike

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> If they (or anyone else) want to give me free service to use as I see fit 
> (well, legally), I'll gladly accept their offer.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> From: "Tom Beecher" 
> To: "Matthew Petach" 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 11:38:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Cogent Abuse - Bogus Propagation of ASN 36471
>
>> In short--I'm having a hard time understanding how a non-paying entity still 
>> has working connectivity and BGP sessions, which makes me suspect there's a 
>> different side to this story we're not hearing yet.   ^_^;
>
>
> I know Cogent has long offered very cheap transit prices, but this seems very 
> aggressive! :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 12:28 PM Matthew Petach  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:09 AM Pete Rohrman  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> Compromised as in a nefarious entity went into the router and changed 
>>> passwords and did whatever.  Everything advertised by that comprised router 
>>> is bogus.  The compromised router is owned by OrgID: S2NL (now defunct).  
>>> AS 36471 belongs to KDSS-23.  The compromised router does not belong to 
>>> Kratos KDSS-23, and is causing routing problems.  The compromised router 
>>> needs to be shut down.  The owner of the compromised router ceased 
>>> business, and there isn't anyone around to address this at S2NL.  The only 
>>> people that can resolve this is Cogent.   Cogent's defunct customer's 
>>> router was compromised, and is spewing out bogus advertisements.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> This seems a bit confusing.
>>
>> So, S2NL was a bill-paying customer of Cogent with a BGP speaking router.
>> They went out of business, and stopped paying their Cogent bills.
>> Cogent, out of the goodness of their hearts, continued to let a non-paying 
>> customer keep their connectivity up and active, and continued to freely 
>> import prefixes across BGP neighbors from this non-paying defunct customer.
>> Now, someone else has gained access to this non-paying, defunct customer's 
>> router (which Cogent is still providing free connectivity to, out of the 
>> goodness of their hearts), and is generating RPKI-valid announcements from 
>> it, which have somehow not caused a flurry of messages on the outages list 
>> about prefix hijackings.
>>
>> The elements to your claim don't really seem to add up.
>> 1) ISPs aren't famous for letting non-bill-paying customers stay connected 
>> for very long past the grace period on their billing cycle, let alone long 
>> after the company has gone belly-up.
>> 2) It's not impossible to generate RPKI-valid announcements from a hijacked 
>> network, but it's very difficult to generate *bogus* RPKI-valid 
>> announcements from a compromised router--that's the whole point of RPKI, to 
>> be able to validate that the prefixes being announced from an origin are 
>> indeed the ones that are owned by that origin.
>>
>> Can you provide specific prefix and AS_PATH combinations being originated by 
>> that router that are "bogus" and don't belong to the router's ASN?
>>
>> If, however, what you meant is that the router used to be ASN X, and is 
>> now suddenly showing up as ASN 36471, and Cogent happily changed their BGP 
>> neighbor statements to match the new ASN, even though the entity no longer 
>> exists and hasn't been paying their bills for some time, then that would 
>> imply a level of complicity on Cogent's part that would make them unlikely 
>> to respond to your abuse reports.  That would be a very strong allegation to 
>> make, and the necessary level of documented proof of that level of 
>> malfeasance would be substantial.
>>
>> In short--I'm having a hard time understanding how a non-paying entity still 
>> has working connectivity and BGP sessions, which makes me suspect there's a 
>> different side to this story we're not hearing yet.   ^_^;
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Any Wave/Astound clue on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

Negative, PTP fiber circuit.

-Mike

> On Feb 22, 2023, at 19:37, Jay Hennigan  wrote:
> 
> On 2/22/23 19:20, Mike Lyon wrote:
>> Going on 12 hours on an outage that is due to a power outage somewhere. 
>> According to the Wave/Astound NOC, generator(s) were on the way 6 hours ago…
>> If you could hit me up offlist, i can give you the master ticket number.
>> I’m having a hard time figuring out why it takes 6 hours to get a generator 
>> up and running in Silicon Valley.
> 
> Is this a cable modem connection? Fiber-to-coax media converters and coaxial 
> trunk amplifiers are fed from AC transformers on random poles or next to 
> random underground pedestals. They need to roll a truck to the location(s) 
> without power and basically set up a generator and plug the power injector 
> into it. They typically use little Honda portables (which need refueling 
> fairly often). Unless you're real close to the cable company's head-end there 
> usually isn't any kind of automatic backup power.
> 
> When there's a local power outage near me in Oregon, Wave doesn't even bother 
> with generators as typically their customers' power in the area is out too.
> 
> -- 
> Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
> 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
> 

Any Wave/Astound clue on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

Going on 12 hours on an outage that is due to a power outage somewhere. 
According to the Wave/Astound NOC, generator(s) were on the way 6 hours ago…

If you could hit me up offlist, i can give you the master ticket number.

I’m having a hard time figuring out why it takes 6 hours to get a generator up 
and running in Silicon Valley.

Thank you in advance for any help.

-Mike

Re: Increasing problems with geolocation/IPv4 access

[Mike Lyon]

I’ve come to the conclusion that the geo-ip feed companies don’t give a damn 
about the legitimacy of their information and don’t research any of it. They 
just wait for the end user to complain to make the change.

Had one today, in fact.

They’re lame.

-Mike



> On Jan 20, 2023, at 16:33, Jared Mauch  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been seeing an increasing problem with IP space not having the ability 
> to be used due to the behaviors of either geolocation or worse, people 
> blocking IP space after it’s been in-use for a period of time.
> 
> Before I go back to someone at ARIN and say “your shiny unused 4.10 IP space” 
> is non-functional and am at a place where I need to start/restart/respawn the 
> timer, I have a few questions for people:
> 
> 1) Do you see 23.138.114.0/24 in any feeds from a security provider that say 
> it can/should be blocked?  If so, I’d love to hear from you to track this 
> down.  Over the new year we had some local schools start to block this IP 
> space.
> 
> 2) many companies have geolocation feeds and services that exist and pull in 
> data.  The reputable people are easy to find, there are those that are 
> problematic from time-to-time (I had a few customers leave Sling due to the 
> issues with that service).
> 
> 3) Have you had similar issues?  How are you chasing all the issues?  We’ve 
> seen things from everything works except uploading check images to banks, to 
> other financial service companies block the space our customers are in.  If 
> we move them to another range this solves the problem.
> 
> 4) We do IPv6, these places aren’t IPv6 modern at all, so that’s no help.
> 
> 5) IRR+geofeed are published of course.  I’m thinking that it might be 
> worthwhile that IP space have published placeholders when it’s well 
> understood, eg: ARIN 4.9 space, I can predict what our next allocation would 
> be, it would be great to have it be pre-warmed. 
> 
> I’ve only seen a few complaints against all our IP space over time, so I 
> don’t think there’s anything malicious coming from the IP space to justify 
> it, but it’s also possible they didn’t make it through.
> 
> If you’re with the FKA Savvis side, can you also ping me, I’d like to see if 
> you can reach out to our most recent complaint source to see if we can find 
> who is publishing this.  Same if you’re with Merit or the Michigan Statewide 
> Educational Network - your teachers stopped being able to post to powerschool 
> for their students over the new year break.  They’ve fed it up to their tech 
> people towards the ISD.  Details available off-list.
> 
> Any insights are welcome, and as I said, I’d like to understand where the 
> source list is as it starts out working then gradually breaks, so someone is 
> publishing things and they are going out further.
> 
> - Jared

Re: Ticketmaster contact

[Mike Lyon]

They are always a pain in the ass to reach.

What i ended up doing was spamming any technical and C-level execs i could find 
on LinkedIN and finally found one that was able to help. That was years ago 
though so i dont have a contact there anymore.

Wish you luck!

-Mike

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 05:46, Alex Buie  wrote:
> 
> Hi NANOG,
> 
> We're an ISP providing residential and business fixed internet
> services, and all of our ranges are blocked from accessing
> ticketmaster with the attached "Pardon the interruption, you are
> superhuman or a bot" message and have been for some time; customer
> complaint velocity has increased especially as of late so it's been a
> priority to try and get this working. We've done extensive checking to
> ensure there is no bot activity or scalping transiting our network, we
> aren't using cgNAT - each IP is a specific customer end installation
> (home/office), and we have rPKI set up.
> 
> Is there anyone from Ticketmaster on list who'd be willing to contact
> me for a conversation to see if we can resolve this for our mutual
> customers? Or could anyone provide me with a decent technical contact
> if they might have one? I would be eternally grateful. I have tried
> "fan support" numerous times, which provided helpful (/s) suggestions
> like "try purchasing tickets over LTE", or "use a different internet
> connection, like at a coffee shop", or "contact your ISP" (myself?
> lol), depending on the day. Also tried their "Global Monitoring
> Support" organization by phone and by email with little success.
> 
> ARIN contacts bounce back as a 550 5.7.133
> RESOLVER.RST.SenderNotAuthenticatedForGroup, looks like o365
> configured to not accept external messages.
> 
> If you've successfully managed to work this out with them, have any
> tips, or recognize what WAF/engine they're using from the page layout
> with UUID at the bottom to help me identify who else I might try
> contacting to see about getting recategorized, I would really
> appreciate hearing from you.
> 
> Thanks a bunch!
> 
> 
> Alex Buie
> Senior Cloud Operations Engineer
> 
> 450 Century Pkwy # 100 Allen, TX 75013
> D: 469-884-0225 | www.cytracom.com

Any Riot Games folks lingering on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

Have a peering issue with you @ Any2LA and no one is answering your peering@ 
and noc@ emails.

Please shoot me an email offlist.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: Sites blocking ISP Addresses

[Mike Lyon]

I’ve done the exact same thing for this same exact company (TicketMaster).

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 12:38, Van Dyk, Donovan via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> 
> Long long time ago, I had a similar issue that could not get resolved through 
> normal escalation means.  
>  
> I ended up going on linked in and grabbing every executive and senior email 
> contact I could find and notified them.
> Issue resolved in one day. Nothing gets a nocc moving fast like execs asking 
> about random network issues.
>  
> This company was nowhere near the size of Ticketmaster though.
>  
> Regards,
> --
>  
>  
> From: Ryan Hamel 
> Reply-To: "r...@rkhtech.org" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 11:29 AM
> To: 'James Dexter' , "nanog@nanog.org" 
> Subject: RE: Sites blocking ISP Addresses
>  
> Based on experience, all I can say is good luck. They do not respond to 
> anyone.
> 
> Ryan
>  
> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of James 
> Dexter
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 8:43 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Sites blocking ISP Addresses
>  
> Dear list,
> We have address ranges that are being blocked by sites like Ticketmaster. 
> Customer support is able to assist, and unable to receive a response from 
> legal or hostmaster emails. What are the recommendations for requesting a 
> removal from the blocked list at these sites?
>  

Re: (off list) Re: cogent and henet not peering

[Mike Lyon]

That doesn’t seem very offlist…

> On Aug 20, 2022, at 19:12, VOLKAN KIRIK  wrote:
> 
> 
> you can always be at my service.
> 
> as i am the god.
> 
> working 7/24 at no markup.
> 
> +905520094078
> 
> god's hotline. IM always responded. calls maybe.
> 
> i mean the allah.
> 
> 
> 
> 21.08.2022 05:06 tarihinde jkinne...@yahoo.ca yazdı:
>> I am still all riled up. I can't get over him sending that message. I'm glad 
>> I want to check out his linkedin profile.
>> 
>> Happy I could be of service to you. :)
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022, 07:00:15 p.m. PDT, VOLKAN KIRIK 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> if you are happy i am happy.
>>> 
>>> i dont care negative people much.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 21.08.2022 04:53 tarihinde jkinne...@yahoo.ca yazdı:
>> 
>> Hey Volkan,
>> 
>> I just emailed the list moderator to let them know it was optional to
>> post my message to the list. As long as you know some twit with
>> three years experience running around calling himself executive
>> director just harassed you, I'm happy.
>> 
>> Have a great day!
>> 
>> Jason
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022, 06:50:05 p.m. PDT, VOLKAN KIRIK 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> lol
>> 
>> 21.08.2022 04:28 tarihinde jkinne...@yahoo.ca yazdı:
>> 
>> Good thing they have someone with a dish washing skill-set to clean up their 
>> inbox's for them.
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022, 06:01:34 p.m. PDT, Peter Potvin via NANOG 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Removing Cogent personnel and peering departments from this thread as I'm 
>> sure they don't appreciate the nonsense coming from this list.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Peter Potvin | Executive Director
>> --
>> Accuris Technologies Ltd.
>> 11-300 Earl Grey Drive, Suite #124, Kanata, Ontario K2T1C1 Canada
>> Email: peter.pot...@accuristechnologies.ca
>> Office: +1 (877) 352-6105
>> Network Operations Centre: +1 (877) 321-1662
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 8:51 PM VOLKAN KIRIK  wrote:
>> yea whatever..
>> 
>>  its upto mike leber and dave schaeffer to decide. they can either accept or 
>> reject the solution
>> 
>> I have been always believing content creator/provider should pay expenses 
>> (at least excess traffic).
>> 
>> because they put their server in some datacenter and reach all of the 
>> internet.. their backbone expenses are less..
>> 
>> i can understand that todays datacenters including he.net are interested to 
>> participate in 200-300 IXPs.
>> 
>> well that acceptable. it should be considered too
>> 
>> so i would offer both companies 3 cent per mbps for excess traffic.
>> 
>> ok bye
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 21.08.2022 03:25 tarihinde Forrest Christian (List Account) yazdı:
>>> But that traffic was likely requested by and for the benefit of the person 
>>> the traffic is being sent to.
>>> 
>>> I've always found the argument that the quantity of traffic is the 
>>> indicator of who should pay to be questionable. 
>>> 
>>> If I'm an end user on an eyeball user and request a big download or 
>>> streaming from a provider, isn't it me that caused that traffic to flow?  
>>> One could argue that I am the one that needs to pay. 
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, one could argue that it's the provider of the content 
>>> that I requested that needs to pay, since it's their content which is being 
>>> distributed.
>>> 
>>> When you get to peering between two providers it's almost impossible to 
>>> decide who needs to pay.As I mentioned above, passing that traffic is 
>>> actually to the benefit of both providers.
>>> 
>>> About the only settlement I could see is where one of the providers is 
>>> bearing most of the transport costs.  For example a regional provider only 
>>> peering at one exchange point might expect some settlement costs with a big 
>>> international provider that is effectively carrying their traffic both 
>>> directions around the globe.  But the quantity of that type of traffic is 
>>> likely minimal in the grand scheme of things. Even then one might argue 
>>> that connectivity to the small provider is still valuable to the customers 
>>> of the large provider.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 9:32 AM VOLKAN KIRIK  wrote:
>>> the more uploading side pays each month for the excess amount.
>>> 
>>> as content networks are supposed to pay expenses.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> what do you think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 19.08.2022 18:28 tarihinde Mike Hammett yazdı:
 The problem them becomes *who* pays? When do the tables turn as to who 
 pays?
 
 The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying?
 
 The network with more POPs gets paid?
 
 The network with more downstream ASes gets paid?
 
 Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6?
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 
 The Brothers WISP
 
 From: "VOLKAN KIRIK" 
 To: "Rubens Kuhl" 
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, 

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

Well, if the HOA allowed us to install an antenna for the single customer, then 
our standard rates would apply (google Ridge Wireless, if you want to see 
pricing, i don’t want my NANOG messages to seem spammy). 

Another problem with condos that were built before the 2000’s is inside wiring. 
Likely going to be wired with something like Cat3 and old RG59 coax. 

I’m not saying i don’t agree with the sentiment of this thread. Silicon Valley 
does have many under-served areas that ATT and Comcast haven’t, or won’t, 
build-out decent service. 

-Mike



> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:16, Cory Sell  wrote:
> 
>  See this is my point. People always dismiss these issues and say they could 
> easily get service. Then, when someone comes in with an actual request for 
> said service, the answer we get is about structured deals with HOA/property 
> management. What about for a single customer? A single customer who has no 
> sway over an entire HOA, a single customer who is told to go “pound sand” by 
> the property manager.
> 
> If you can’t give a single figure or even rough numbers for a single 
> customer, I’d say avoid dismissing the problem. If you can provide that now, 
> I’d be very curious to still see them. :)
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:10 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>> Depends on many factors…
>> 
>> If the whole HOA wanted service, then a licensed link could possibly be put 
>> in delivering a high capacity circuit delivering about 100 Mbps to the 
>> subscriber. Price to the customer would vary depending on how the deal is 
>> structured with the HOA/property management company.
>> 
>> Could also look into getting some fiber delivered and feed it from that.
>> 
>> -Mike 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:02, Cory Sell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>  Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the roof…
>>> 
>>> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost?
>>> 
>>> Note that in almost every condominium or apartment complex I have heard of, 
>>> they do NOT allow roof builds. This is why satellite TV in those areas 
>>> require people to put an antenna on their patio, even if it’s half-blocked.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>>>> If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)
>>>> 
>>>> Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!
>>>> 
>>>> -Mike Lyon
>>>> Ridge Wireless
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see 
>>>>>> the generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose".
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You want a specific example?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a 
>>>>> few weeks ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They live here:
>>>>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dug and dug, and called different companies.
>>>>> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already 
>>>>> have with AT
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go ahead.  Try it for yourself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See what service you can order to those condos.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Heart of Silicon Valley.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Worse connectivity than many rural areas.   :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

Depends on many factors…

If the whole HOA wanted service, then a licensed link could possibly be put in 
delivering a high capacity circuit delivering about 100 Mbps to the subscriber. 
Price to the customer would vary depending on how the deal is structured with 
the HOA/property management company.

Could also look into getting some fiber delivered and feed it from that.

-Mike 

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:02, Cory Sell  wrote:
> 
>  Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the roof…
> 
> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost?
> 
> Note that in almost every condominium or apartment complex I have heard of, 
> they do NOT allow roof builds. This is why satellite TV in those areas 
> require people to put an antenna on their patio, even if it’s half-blocked.
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>> If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)
>> 
>> Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!
>> 
>> -Mike Lyon
>> Ridge Wireless
>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see the 
>>>> generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You want a specific example?
>>> 
>>> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a few 
>>> weeks ago.
>>> 
>>> They live here:
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295
>>> 
>>> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose.
>>> 
>>> I dug and dug, and called different companies.
>>> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already 
>>> have with AT
>>> 
>>> Go ahead.  Try it for yourself.
>>> 
>>> See what service you can order to those condos.
>>> 
>>> Heart of Silicon Valley.  
>>> 
>>> Worse connectivity than many rural areas.   :(
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)

Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!

-Mike Lyon
Ridge Wireless

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
>> I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see the 
>> generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose".
> 
> 
> You want a specific example?
> 
> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a few 
> weeks ago.
> 
> They live here:
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295
> 
> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose.
> 
> I dug and dug, and called different companies.
> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already have 
> with AT
> 
> Go ahead.  Try it for yourself.
> 
> See what service you can order to those condos.
> 
> Heart of Silicon Valley.  
> 
> Worse connectivity than many rural areas.   :(
> 
> Matt

Re: VPN recommendations?

[Mike Lyon]

How about running ZeroTier on those Linux boxes and call it a day?

https://www.zerotier.com/

-Mike


> On Feb 10, 2022, at 10:07, David Guo via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> 
> You may try WireGuard and use ddns
>  
> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of William 
> Herrin
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 2:02 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: VPN recommendations?
>  
> Hi folks,
>  
> Do you have any recommendations for VPN appliances? Specifically: I need to 
> build a site to site VPNs at speeds between 100mpbs and 1 gbit where all but 
> one of the sites are behind an IPv4 NAT gateway with dynamic public IP 
> addresses.
>  
> Normally I'd throw OpenVPN on a couple of Linux boxes and be happy but my 
> customer insists on a network appliance. Site to site VPNs using IPSec and 
> static IP addresses on the plaintext side are a dime a dozen but traversing 
> NAT and dynamic IP addresses (and automatically re-establishing when the 
> service goes out and comes back up with different addresses) is a hard 
> requirement.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> --
> William Herrin
> b...@herrin.us
> https://bill.herrin.us/

Netflix GeoIP location support

[Mike Lyon]

Any Netflix folk on the list that would be able to fix a Geo-IP
location lookup issue for end-user assignments in the SF Bay Area
(Some of which are Netflix employees)?

Your Geo-IP Lookup Helpdesk takes the matter a little too nonchalant
with no sense of urgency (2-3 weeks).

Any help would be appreciated, by myself (and some of your employees).

Thank You,
Mike


-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

GeoLocation contact for HBO?

[Mike Lyon]

Anyone have a GeoLocation contact for HBO? Appears they don’t allow external 
emails to ctiaengine...@hbo.com

Thanks in advance.

-Mike

Re: facebook outage

[Mike Lyon]

Can't wait to see the RFO!

-Mike

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:35 PM Bill Woodcock  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >>
> >> They’re starting to pick themselves back up off the floor in the last two 
> >> or three minutes.  A few answers getting out.  I imagine it’ll take a 
> >> while before things stabilize, though.
> >
> > nd we’re back:
> >
> > WoodyNet-2:.ssh woody$ dig www.facebook.com @9.9.9.9
>
> So that was, what…  15:50 UTC to 21:05 UTC, more or less…  five hours and 
> fifteen minutes.
>
> That’s a lot of hair burnt all the way to the scalp, and some third-degree 
> burns beyond that.
>
> Maybe they’ll get one or two independent secondary authoritatives, so this 
> doesn’t happen again.  :-)
>
> -Bill
>


-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: T-Mobile RF contact

[Mike Lyon]

Sometimes the carriers have a NOC number listed on their equipment at the site. 

Guessing this isnt the case at this site?

-Mike

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:44, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> 
> I realize this isn’t an RF list but was hoping someone on here could point me 
> in the right direction.
> 
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer?
> 
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we believe 
> is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility.  
> 
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating in 
> the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a 
> part 96 CBRS device.
> 
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket.  
> 
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other than 
> telling us it’s not in the SAS.
> 
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, but 
> T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name.
> 
> Any help is much appreciated,
> 
> -Sean Heskett
> 970-846-8065
> -- 
> Sean Heskett
> 
> ZIRKEL 
> Internet • WiFi • Phone • TV
> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office

Re: Any2 LAX

[Mike Lyon]

Like Seth, i haven’t gotten anything from them.

-Mike

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:08, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/11/21 8:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> On 6/11/21 11:18 AM, Bryan Holloway wrote:
>>> This is what I got from those guys ...
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> CoreSite Incident Notification
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Description:  During a planned maintenance event to integrate new hardware 
>>> into our MPLS core an extreme dip in Any2 traffic was observed. After about 
>>> 4 hours running in a degraded state, an emergency case was opened with the 
>>> hardware vendor. After working with the hardware vendor to rule out any 
>>> possible hardware or software bugs, the network engineering team located 
>>> the source of the traffic loss. It was an errant configuration applied by 
>>> the custom automation written to build LSP's in our MPLS network. A formal 
>>> IR will be provided for this event.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Was that an automated email? Last time I got any email from Coresite was 
>> April 22.
> 
> 
> Automated.

Re: Any2 LAX

[Mike Lyon]

Something happened... All my traffic dropped between 1am to 3am.

-Mike

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 10:11, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
> Did Any2 LAX barf last night between about 1am and 8am Pacific time?

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

Same here. It is so annoying.

ME: How are you testing the speed?
Them: I am running the speedtest via my Apple Mac SE via an Ethernet AUI
controller and i'm only getting 500kbps!

The joys of running an ISP and dealing with the public

-Mike



On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 1:45 PM  wrote:

> Yes, my customers “cry” about the speedtest.net result…. All day…
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:50 PM
> *To:* Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe 
> *Cc:* NANOG Operators' Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
>
>
>
> What did they cry about?
>
> The speedtest.net result?
>
> Loading google.com in a fraction of a second?
>
> or was it that you didn't have 75 ms of garbage in the way?
>
> That you didn't go through a congested port between the PC and the
> destination?
>
> That you were hard wired instead of single-chain 802.11n WiFi going
> through 5 walls?
>
> That you were using a local recursive resolver DNS server?
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe" 
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *Cc: *"Christopher Morrow" , "NANOG Operators'
> Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:40:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
>
> I’ve had people cry about how fast the internet is at my office…
>
>
>
> I guess your mileage may vary, but yes humans do notice those kinds of
> delays and they are cumulative.  (It’s not just bandwidth, it’s latency.
> The 3ms ping in my signature is real too.)
>
>
>
> -LB
>
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
> CEO
> b...@6by7.net
> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company
> in the world.”
>
> ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME
> <https://alexmhoulton.wixsite.com/6x7networks>
>
>
> FCC License KJ6FJJ
>


-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

We are all happy for you that your technology allows for that, really, we are.

For those that cannot get fiber, we’re still dependant  on the physics of radio 
waves for last mile. And, hell, even for the middle miles!

-Mike

> On May 29, 2021, at 07:47, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I’ll do this, on purpose.  Here’s the result:
> 
> We decided, oh, 28 years ago, not to offer an insulting service tier at all; 
> all our services, even the most “entry level” are designed to make you feel 
> not just special, but like you’re one of perhaps 6 billionaire customers we 
> have and depend entirely upon.  The entire framework of my company is built 
> this way, from encrypted 10g enterprise and now residential connections, to 
> access to c-levels for every customer.  Scaling that will be a challenge, but 
> it’s something I look forward to bringing to 8 billion people.
> 
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
> CEO 
> l...@6by7.net
> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the 
> world.”
> 
> FCC License KJ6FJJ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149.
> 
>> On May 28, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>> 
>> I would love to see an experiment where the CEOs of the major communication 
>> companies were forced to use only their "lifeline" products for 30 days, 
>> including only their "lifeline" customer service lines.

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

Fiber is cool and all, but there is a HUGE amount of areas that aren't
lucky enough to have fiber and wireless is the only way to go.

So, we up the minimum to 100 Mbps just because some areas are lucky enough
to have fiber?

-Mike




On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:38 PM Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE <
l...@6by7.net> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149.
>
> > On May 28, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Curious, when you look at the usage on those 100/100 plans. What are
> they actually using? If they aren't actually using it, then why up the
> minimum?
>
> Simple, our time isn’t free.  The less time humanity itself spends waiting
> on downloads, the more we spend loving, celebrating, embracing, playing and
> exploring.
>
> Really, fiber is fiber, it’s just about optics from there, and those are
> cheap.
>
> Relatively speaking.
>
> (And ignoring WISPSs and rural economies of scale but I digress.)
>
> 8 billion fiber drops for 8 billion people.
>
> That’s what it will take to wire the future.  32k res AR environments; 1TB
> video games, distance learning via implant, full self driving cars -
> Qualcomm itself says bandwidth is to grow 1000-fold in the next 9 years
> alone.
>
> Are you ready?
>
>
>
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
> CEO
> l...@6by7.net
> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in
> the world.”
>
> FCC License KJ6FJJ



-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

Curious, when you look at the usage on those 100/100 plans. What are they
actually using? If they aren't actually using it, then why up the minimum?

If they are on a 100/100 and the majority of the folks don't use a 10th of
that throughput, why make it 100 if it's not actually being used? If it's
not actually being used, why don't we just make the minimum 10G or 100G
since it appears we are arbitrarily pulling random numbers out of our asses
for "minimums?"

-Mike


On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brandon Price 
wrote:

> 100/100 minimum for sure.
>
> In our small neck of the woods, we are currently doing 250/250 for $45 and
> 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.
>
> We have lost some grants on rural builds because "someone" in the census
> block claims they provide broadband.. Not hard to put an AP up on a tower
> and hit the current definition's upload speed.
>
> I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer what they "need"...
>
>
> Brandon Price
> Senior Network Engineer
> City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG  On Behalf
> Of Sean Donelan
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:33 PM
> To: NANOG Operators' Group 
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you are expecting this email and/or
> know the content is safe.
>
>
> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> > At least 100/100.
> >
> > We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore, that’s what I’d start
> everyone at if I could.
>
>
> At $50/month or less?
>
> Maximize number of households of all demographic groups.
>
>

-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Mike Lyon]

I get about 23/6 Mbps for $50/month here in Silicon Valley from my ATT DSL line.

> On May 27, 2021, at 18:11, Matt Brennan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd love to see 100/100, but I don't see it happening anytime soon ... 
> especially for $50. 
> 
> I pay $150/month for 300/8 at home and that's the best upload I can get where 
> I live ... in a major city. 
> 
>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:41 PM Eric Dugas via NANOG  wrote:
>> I'm not in the US but in Canada it's been 50/10 since 2016 and we're just 
>> "almost" there yet. IMO the target should have been more like 100/30 or even 
>> 50 of upload.
>> 
>> 100/100 might be a bit short sighted considering it'll take years to 
>> accomplish the necessary last-mile/distribution upgrades in rural areas.
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:31 PM Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year
>>> 
>>> year  speed
>>> 
>>> 1999  200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than 
>>> dialup/ISDN speeds)
>>> 
>>> 2000  200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service 
>>> providers had 128 kbps upload)
>>> 
>>> 2010   4 mbps down / 1 mbps up
>>> 
>>> 2015   25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired)
>>>  5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless)
>>> 
>>> 2021   ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps)
>>> 
>>> Not only in major cities, but also rural areas
>>> 
>>> Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't 
>>> advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must 
>>> deliver better service.
>>> 

Re: Zayo or HE for IP transit

[Mike Lyon]

I use both of them.

I’d recommend you use either as a primary and bump cogent to secondary.

Or axe cogent and use Zayo and HE.

Cogent sucks.

-Mike

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 09:09, James Lumby  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the current experience with Zayo or HE?  I’m looking at possibly 
> adding one of them into a mix of cogent and a mix from my datacenter.  Would 
> be using BGP full routes.  Any experiences would be appreciated.
>  
> Sincerely,
> James
>  

Re: Peering and Caching for Epic Games, Fortnite, et al

[Mike Lyon]

Doesn’t look like they peer at any of the IXs per peeringdb. Upstream appears 
to be Level3 so maybe peer or buy some transit from Level3/CenturyLink/Lumen or 
whatever company they are today?

-Mike

> On Mar 22, 2021, at 19:15, Jose Luis Rodriguez  wrote:
> 
> 
> We run a healthy-sized ISP (say, 2.5M households, plus enterprise, etc ) and 
> we really, REALLY want to make sure our users have an amazing experience when 
> downloading the neverending Fortnite/Spacequest/Blizzard/DigDug  updates that 
> run down our pipes. Would love to hear from others about how they're peering 
> and caching -- not having the level of success I'd want with the typical 
> "aggregators"  (they know who they are ) and would really like to link to the 
> source even if it means trenching through the core of the Earth...
> 
> Would love pointers, names, or any leads, on or off list. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jose L. Rodriguez
> CTO, Totalplay

Re: Any2 Los Angeles down again

[Mike Lyon]

Isn’t ANY2 LA collapsing  VLANs today? They sent a notice out about it 
yesterday AM.

-Mike

> On Jan 26, 2021, at 04:55, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> 
> And instead of building out in LA where there's an obvious need, DE-CIX chose 
> Chicago, where there are already several IXes running.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> From: "Bob Purdon" 
> To: "Siyuan Miao" , "North American Network Operators' 
> Group" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 5:59:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Any2 Los Angeles down again
> 
> On 26/01/2021 22:51, Siyuan Miao wrote:
> > Does anybody know if there's an alternative to Any2 Los Angeles 
> > with predictable uptime and enough members in LA?
> >
> > It's the second outage this month and we've observed at least 7 
> > outages in the past year and we didn't even receive any maintenance 
> > notice or RFO.
> 
> Likewise, I wouldn't be adverse to exploring options - I noticed a 
> handful of peers disappear about an hour ago (most are still up).  A 
> week or so back we lost most if not all...
> 
> Then again, we had a different IX in San Francisco stop talking LACP 
> with us out of the blue yesterday, for reasons still unknown but since 
> fixed.
> 
> 

Re: A letter from the CEO

[Mike Lyon]

It was also spammed to other lists as well...

-Mike

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 16:45, Grant Taylor via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
>> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on 
>> purpose.
> 
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add 
> them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full header 
> personalization?
> 
> This *REALLY* seems like a blatant scrape of -- now I have a good idea -- the 
> NANOG mailing list.
> 
> I for one have black listed 6x7 on all email servers that I have 
> administrative control over.
> 
>> I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax...
> 
> I don't know.  I think it was far more intentional than accidental.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
> 

Re: Strange connectivity issue Frontier EVPL

[Mike Lyon]

Recently saw a relatively same problem when Wave migrated us off of their 
antiquated 6500 to a brand new ASR920. EVPL had been working flawlessly for 
years on the 6500, but then stopped working when migrated to the ASR. Tried 
multiple ports on the ASR and then even another brand new ASR, same problem. 
Moved the circuit over to another (different) antiquated 6500 and all was good.

On my side, i was using a Mikrotik, i had the port in a bridge group and was 
seeing all the MAC addresses across the link but for some reason, they weren’t 
showing up in the ARP table of the Mikrotik. Tried a couple other Mikrotik 
devices, same thing. Installed a dumb gigabit switch in the middle, same thing. 
However, when my laptop was plugged in, that worked.

So yes, seen the same weird behavior. As to how to fix it, no idea :)

-Mike



> On Nov 6, 2020, at 10:32, Jay Hennigan  wrote:
> 
> On 11/6/20 10:14, Mike Lyon wrote:
>> What hardware is on each side?
> 
> On our aggregate side an ASR920. Customer has a RAD device as the Frontier 
> handoff. We've seen the same issue with multiple devices at the customer side 
> including a laptop direct to the RAD.
> 
> -- 
> Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
> 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

Re: Strange connectivity issue Frontier EVPL

[Mike Lyon]

What hardware is on each side?

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 10:08, w...@loopfree.net wrote:
> 
> I have similar Frontier NNI's out of One Wilshire, some 1gig some 10.
> 
> While I haven't seen the half-IP-reachable issue you describe I have spent
> days and days chasing performance issues on them. I finally got gig 
> line-rate capable iperf3 boxes at both ends and see distinct differences
> in single-TCP stream performance vs running 3-4 streams, and the difference
> disappears like clockwork at "unbusy hours" (1am-7am) every day.
> 
> After running hundreds of tests and adjusting my buffering and RED on both
> ends of these circuits I just have come to the conclusion that they have
> some LAGs somewhere "in the middle" that get busy during the day, and
> they don't care if I have to run 4 TCP streams to max a 1gig circuit.
> 
> It makes browser-based speedtests look really bad but otherwise the 
> circuits are usable. We're trying to replace the worst ones with 
> wavelength services.
> 
> -Will Orton
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 08:59:28AM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote:
>> We have a strange issue that defies logic. We have a NNI at our POP
>> with Frontier serving as an aggregation circuit with different
>> customers on different VLANs. It's working well to several
>> customers.
>> 
>> Bringing up a new customer shows roughly half of the IP addresses
>> unreachable across the link, as if there's some kind of
>> load-balancing or hashing function that's mis-directing half of the
>> traffic. It's consistent, if an address is reachable it's always
>> reachable. If it's not reachable, it's never reachable. Everything
>> ARPs fine.
>> 
>> The Frontier circuit is layer 2 so shouldn't care about IP
>> addresses. Frontier tech shows no trouble. They changed the RAD
>> device on-premise. We've triple-checked configurations, torn down
>> and rebuilt subinterface, etc. with no joy.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
>> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
>> 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

Re: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails

[Mike Lyon]

I tell them to hit me up once they have direct peering with HE.net.

Haven’t heard from them since.

-Mike

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 10:15, Simon Lockhart  wrote:
> 
> We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales 
> emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method.
> 
> Simon
> 
>> On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
>> Yes, every week
>> 
>> Proof
>> 
>> https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg

Any Wave Business clue on the list?

[Mike Lyon via NANOG]

If so, can you shoot me an email offlist?

Thank You,
Mike

Re: 60ms cross continent

[Mike Lyon]

For the IoT/M2M stuff that doesn’t require huge amounts of data, there is  a 
Silicon Valley startup that is deploying cube sats for just that.

Swarm Technologies

https://www.swarm.space/

-Mike

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 19:49, Denys Fedoryshchenko  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-07-08 10:05, Mark Tinka wrote:
>>> On 7/Jul/20 21:58, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>> Watching the growth of terrestrial fiber (and PTP microwave) networks
>>> going inland from the west and east African coasts has been
>>> interesting. There's a big old C-band earth station on the hill above
>>> Freetown, Sierra Leone that was previously the capital's only link to
>>> the outside world. Obsoleted for some years now thanks to the
>>> submarine cable and landing station. I imagine they might keep things
>>> live as a backup path with a small C-band transponder MHz commit and
>>> SCPC modems linked to an earth station somewhere in Europe, but not
>>> with very much capacity or monthly cost.
>>> The landing station in Mogadishu had a similar effect.
>> The early years of submarine fibre in Africa always had satellite as a
>> backup. In fact, many satellite companies that served Africa with
>> Internet prior to submarine fibre were banking on subsea and terrestrial
>> failures to remain relevant. It worked between 2009 - 2013, when
>> terrestrial builds and operation had plenty of teething problems. Those
>> companies have since either disappeared or moved their services over to
>> fibre as well.
>> In that time, it has simply become impossible to have any backup
>> capacity on satellite anymore. There is too much active fibre bandwidth
>> being carried around and out of/into Africa for any satellite system to
>> make sense. Rather, diversifying terrestrial and submarine capacity is
>> the answer, and that is growing quite well.
>> Plenty of new cable systems that are launching this year, next year and
>> the next 3 years. At the moment, one would say there is sufficient
>> submarine capacity to keep the continent going in case of a major subsea
>> cut (like we saw in January when both the WACS and SAT-3 cables got cut
>> at the same time, and were out for over a month).
>> Satellite earth stations are not irrelevant, however. They still do get
>> used to provide satellite-based TV services, and can also be used for
>> media houses who need to hook up to their network to broadcast video
>> when reporting in the region (even though uploading a raw file back home
>> over the Internet is where the tech. has now gone).
>> Mark.
> 
> I don't think traditional satellites have much future as backbone. Only as 
> broadcasting media.
> Most are still acting as dumb RF converters, but we can't expect much more 
> from them.
> On geostationary orbit, it is not only expensive to bring each additional kg, 
> but also they
> need to keep it simple as possible, as it is all above van allen belt, and it 
> needs to run there
> without any maintenance for 7+ years.
> So if SpaceX managed to squeeze in their satellites at least basic processing 
> (and seems they did),
> it will improve satellite capabilities (and competitiveness) greatly.
> The only thing i hope, if they had space for some M2M IoT stuff, similar to 
> ORBCOMM.
> 

Any Zayo peeps on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

Howdy!

Any Zayo peeps on the list? Seeing some packet loss on your network and your 
NCC seems to be clueless.

Please shoot me an email offlist.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: [EXT] Shining a light on ambulance chasers - Noction

[Mike Lyon]

  Actually, you should route their calls to the IRS scammers who keep
calling. I'm sure the two callers would have a lot of fun chatting with
each other.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:51 PM Kaiser, Erich  wrote:

> Cogent calls me about 2-3 times a week.  TIme to start re-routing their
> calls back to them..
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:29 PM Chuck Anderson  wrote:
>
>> Someone should tell them what happened to Cogent for scraping ARIN WHOIS.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:13:51PM -0400, Rodney Joffe wrote:
>> > Under the heading of sales spam from our community that is in even
>> poorer taste, and sucks:
>> >
>> >
>> > Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> > > From: Josh Ankin 
>> > > Subject: BGP Management
>> > > Date: March 25, 2020 at 3:39:02 PM EDT
>> > > To: rjo...@centergate.com
>> > > Reply-To: jan...@noction.com
>> > >
>> > > Hello Rodney,
>> > >
>> > > I know things are pretty hectic right now with COVID-19 precautions
>> being taken everywhere. I hope it's not affecting your team too much, and
>> most importantly, I hope everyone is safe.
>> > >
>> > > In recent months, I've been trying to bring your attention to BGP
>> optimization. However, our solution's other notable features can be of
>> utmost value at these uncertain times as the Internet traffic volumes and
>> patterns change
>> >
>> > Etc Etc
>>
>

-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Anyone from Zoom video conferencing on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

If so, please contact me off-list.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

[Mike Lyon]

Then call waiting came out and would disconnect the session sometimes. That 
sucked ass.

> On Feb 17, 2020, at 16:37, Scott Weeks  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I can't help myself... :)
> 
> 
> 
> My mother in the 1980s: "no one can ever call us because the phone line is 
> always busy"
> 
> Me with an Osborne 1 and a 300 baud modem:  "We need a second phone line!"  
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1)
> 
> My mother: "That's too expensive.  Quit clogging up the phone line with that 
> toy!"
> 
> Me: 
> "Ok...Pshhhkk​kakingkakingkakingtsh​chchchchchchchcch​*ding*ding*ding*"
>(*)
> 
> 
> 
> I never would've guessed in those days that it would provide me an entire 
> professional career.
> 
> scott
> 
> 
> 
> (*) I copied 
> Pshhhkk​kakingkakingkakingtsh​chchchchchchchcch​*ding*ding*ding*
> from a website as I could not spell that.

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

[Mike Lyon]

Peplink Balance line of routers:

https://www.peplink.com/products/balance/

-Mike

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 15:31, K MEKKAOUI  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear NANOG Community,
>  
> Can anyone help with any device information that provides redundancy for 
> business internet access? In other words when the internet provided through 
> the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide internet 
> access to the client.
>  
> Thank you
>  
> KARIM M.
>  

Re: Geyserville fire

[Mike Lyon]

And FYI, comm towers are still standing and are OK, thus far.

http://www.alertwildfire.org/northbay/index.html

Scroll down to Geyser Peak.

-Mike

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 09:36, William Kenny  wrote:
> 
> https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/Fire-breaks-out-in-northern-Sonoma-County-near-14558358.php
> 
> Sonoma county California for everyone like me who was wondering. 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:17 AM Ben Cannon  wrote:
>> Geyser Peak is on fire and will likely soon lose all mobile 
>> telecommunications.
>> 
>> -Ben
>> 
>> > On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Ben Cannon  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Ben

Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Mike Lyon]

And why are they not on any public peering exchange? Why only private?

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 19:35, Owen DeLong  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 17:48 , Randy Bush  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
>>> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
>>> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
>>> 
>>> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
>> 
>> or point to them treating ipv6 the same as ipv4 when it comes to
>> peering, tech, ...  we are supposed to think ipv6 parity is a good
>> thing.
>> 
>> randy
> 
> Actually, their peering behavior in IPv4 is not quite as arrogant as it is in 
> IPv6, so no, they aren’t doing parity.
> 
> Owen
> 

Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Mike Lyon]

Within the past year or two i’ve seen it occur.

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 18:44, Ben Cannon  wrote:
> 
> “They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
> through it.”
> 
> Mike, I’d have agreed with you - 15 years ago. Is this current at all?  My 
> views on Cogent have evolved dramatically over the years.  How recent is your 
> data?
> 
> -Ben
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>> 
>> The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:
>> 
>> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
>> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
>> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
>> 
>> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
>> 
>> They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
>> through it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total 
>>> face value. If you don’t like them so much - we are you’re audience. 
>>> Explain. 
>>> 
>>> If you like Cogent - explain.
>>> If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use 
>>>> Cogent.”
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the 
>>>> service was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.
>>>> 
>>>> -Mike
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In message , 
>>>>>> Owen DeLong  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>>>>>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>>>>>> as a vendor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
>>>>> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
>>>>> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> rfg

Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Mike Lyon]

The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:

1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.

All of which point to them being pompous assholes.

They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing through 
it.

Cheers,
Mike

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M.  wrote:
> 
> Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total 
> face value. If you don’t like them so much - we are you’re audience. Explain. 
> 
> If you like Cogent - explain.
> If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephen
> 
> //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use 
>> Cogent.”
>> 
>> I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the service 
>> was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.
>> 
>> -Mike
>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In message , 
>>>> Owen DeLong  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>>>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>>>> as a vendor.
>>> 
>>> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
>>> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
>>> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> rfg

Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Mike Lyon]

Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use Cogent.”

I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the service 
was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.

-Mike

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette  wrote:
> 
> In message , 
> Owen DeLong  wrote:
> 
>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>> as a vendor.
> 
> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> rfg

Re: BGP prefix filter list

[mike . lyon]

Hello Baldur,

What routers are you running?

-Mike

> On May 15, 2019, at 11:22, Baldur Norddahl  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>> What is the most common platform people are using with such limitations? How 
>> long ago was it deprecated?
>> 
>> 
> 
> We are a small network with approx 10k customers and two core routers. The 
> routers are advertised as 2 million FIB and 10 million RIB.
> 
> This morning at about 2 AM CET our iBGP session between the two core routers 
> started flapping every 5 minutes. This is how long it takes to exchange the 
> full table between the routers. The eBGP sessions to our transits were stable 
> and never went down.
> 
> The iBGP session is a MPLS multiprotocol BGP session that exhanges IPv4, IPv6 
> and VRF in a single session.
> 
> We are working closely together with another ISP that have the same routers. 
> His network went down as well.
> 
> Nothing would help until I culled the majority of the IPv6 routes by 
> installing a default IPv6 route together with a filter, that drops every IPv6 
> route received on our transits. After that I could not make any more 
> experimentation. Need to have a maintenance window during the night. 
> 
> These routers have shared IPv4 and IPv6 memory space. My theory is that the 
> combined prefix numbers is causing the problem. But it could also be some 
> IPv6 prefix first seen this night, that triggers a bug. Or something else.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Baldur
> 
> 

Re: Special Counsel Office report web site

[mike . lyon]

Deal. 

Though, like you, i am assuming it’ll just be another day on the intarwebs as 
well...

We shall see!


-Mike

> On Apr 17, 2019, at 21:25, Martin Hannigan  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mike.
> 
> Agreed. But the scale of a 400 page document with global interest? Should
> be highly cached with a good ratio of served to pull bits. I'm willing to
> bet you a beer its just another day on the Internet. However, I could be
> wrong. Hope to see you in DC to collect! I already know Brett is in. :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
> 

Re: Special Counsel Office report web site

[mike . lyon]

Oh spiffy! 

Will be interesting to see if there are any problems then.

-Mike

> On Apr 17, 2019, at 21:14, Brett Watson  wrote:
> 
> Or maybe do this (faster than nanog archives) :) 
> 
> 
> bash-3.2# dig cia.gov ns
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> cia.gov ns
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33203
> ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;cia.gov. IN  NS
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a22-66.akam.net.
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a16-67.akam.net.
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a1-22.akam.net.
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a12-65.akam.net.
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a3-64.akam.net.
> cia.gov.  86400   IN  NS  a13-65.akam.net.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Martin Hannigan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Check the nANOG archives for examples of whitehouse.gov, cia.gov etc. It 
>> certainly is. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 23:34  wrote:
>>> Isn’t this why god invented CDNs? Though, i doubt the govment is Akamized...
>>> 
>>> -Mike
>>> 
 On Apr 17, 2019, at 20:26, Mark Seiden  wrote:
 
 of course p2p is the way to distribute this but i doubt the justice 
 department can admit there is any positive legitimate use for p2p.
 
 (i’ve been surprised that it hasn’t made it to wikileaks or bittorrent 
 yet.  “russiar, are you listening?”)
 
 (i sure hope there’s a signed version or at least a hash.)
 
 i predict there will be versions with fake content, missing content, and 
 malware inserted that are distributed as well.
 
 
 
 
 and i’ll bet there will be some infected pdf version as well distributed 
 that way.
> On Apr 17, 2019, 7:57 PM -0700, fwessling--- via NANOG , 
> wrote:
> And we may still see the web stack being the ultimate cause of the delay.
> 
> 
> Parkinson's law always comes to the rescue:-)
> More faster and efficient processing architecture, Hyper transport buses, 
> amd-64 Branch prediction.
> Massively faster storage subsystems and disk arrays, SSD slab caching for 
> hypervisors
> 
> And some dude with a AJAX framework to serve a PDF bringging the whole 
> thing to a a screeching halt
> 
>> On April 17, 2019 10:35:29 PM EDT, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> Things will probably be easier this time. The Internet has evolved
>> ways
>>> of dealing with exactly this problem. (Avi used to call it “slash-dot
>> 
>>> insurance”, but the idea is the same.) Specifically:
>> 
>> Yep, it will be interesting to see where the chokepoints are tommorrow.
>> 
>> In 1998, the bandwidth pipes never filled up. The chokepoint was in the
>> 
>> TCP and Web stacks. Eventually the Associated Press got a copy of the
>> Starr Report on a CD from a congressional staffer. The press intern
>> running down the street holding a CD was faster than 1998 internet :-)
>> 
>> We were also lucky in 1998, no one had thought of DDOS yet.
> 
> Frederick Wessling (CIO)
> Succinct Systems LLC
> Cell: +1(561) 571-2799
> Office: +1(904) 758-9915 ext. 9925
> Fax: +1(904) 758-9987
> www.SuccinctSystems.com
> 

Re: Special Counsel Office report web site

[mike . lyon]

Isn’t this why god invented CDNs? Though, i doubt the govment is Akamized...

-Mike

> On Apr 17, 2019, at 20:26, Mark Seiden  wrote:
> 
> of course p2p is the way to distribute this but i doubt the justice 
> department can admit there is any positive legitimate use for p2p.
> 
> (i’ve been surprised that it hasn’t made it to wikileaks or bittorrent yet.  
> “russiar, are you listening?”)
> 
> (i sure hope there’s a signed version or at least a hash.)
> 
> i predict there will be versions with fake content, missing content, and 
> malware inserted that are distributed as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> and i’ll bet there will be some infected pdf version as well distributed that 
> way.
>> On Apr 17, 2019, 7:57 PM -0700, fwessling--- via NANOG , 
>> wrote:
>> And we may still see the web stack being the ultimate cause of the delay.
>> 
>> 
>> Parkinson's law always comes to the rescue:-)
>> More faster and efficient processing architecture, Hyper transport buses, 
>> amd-64 Branch prediction.
>> Massively faster storage subsystems and disk arrays, SSD slab caching for 
>> hypervisors
>> 
>> And some dude with a AJAX framework to serve a PDF bringging the whole thing 
>> to a a screeching halt
>> 
>>> On April 17, 2019 10:35:29 PM EDT, Sean Donelan  wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
 Things will probably be easier this time. The Internet has evolved
>>> ways
 of dealing with exactly this problem. (Avi used to call it “slash-dot
>>> 
 insurance”, but the idea is the same.) Specifically:
>>> 
>>> Yep, it will be interesting to see where the chokepoints are tommorrow.
>>> 
>>> In 1998, the bandwidth pipes never filled up. The chokepoint was in the
>>> 
>>> TCP and Web stacks. Eventually the Associated Press got a copy of the
>>> Starr Report on a CD from a congressional staffer. The press intern
>>> running down the street holding a CD was faster than 1998 internet :-)
>>> 
>>> We were also lucky in 1998, no one had thought of DDOS yet.
>> 
>> Frederick Wessling (CIO)
>> Succinct Systems LLC
>> Cell: +1(561) 571-2799
>> Office: +1(904) 758-9915 ext. 9925
>> Fax: +1(904) 758-9987
>> www.SuccinctSystems.com

Re: SFP supplier in Europe?

[mike . lyon]

May want to try fs.com. 

https://www.fs.com/company/about_us.html

I use their optics and am quite happy with them.

-Mike

> On Apr 4, 2019, at 13:19, i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt  
> wrote:
> 
> You'll want to have a talk with FlexOptix, they're based in Germany and you 
> can live view the stock in their local warehouse on the website, without even 
> logging in. They've got a great team too! 
> 
>> On 4 April 2019 23:09:15 EEST, nanog-...@mail.com wrote:
>> Hello NANOG,
>> 
>> Could somebody recommend an SFP supplier in Europe with a warehouse in the 
>> EU and fast shipping? I need to pick up some 80km Bidi SFPs and I'd prefer 
>> to use a supplier has and will keep stock locally.
>> 
>> Jared
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Anyone from Peloton Interactive on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

If so, please contact me off list.

Thank You,
Mike


-- 
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mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Any peeps from Ookla on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

If so, can you contact me off-list please?

Thank You,
Mike

-- 
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mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Ticketmaster

[mike . lyon]

Good luck. They are assholes. Never found any if them on NANOG before in my 
past experiences.

-Mike

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 09:51, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> Can someone from Ticketmaster contact me off-list?  We have a customer who 
> seems to be partially blocked from your website.
> 
> Keefe John
> CEO
> Ethoplex 
> Direct: 262.345.5200 
>  
> Ethoplex Business Internet 
> http://www.ethoplex.com/ 
> Signal Residential Internet 
> http://www.signalisp.com/ 
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/

Re: Unsolicited LinkedIn requests

[Mike Lyon]

And for one that SPAM message that was sent to you on LI, now you've made a
bunch of SPAM for all the NANOG folks to read through.

Thanks for that...

-Mike


On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:21 PM Mark Foster  wrote:

> > at 5:40 PM, John Levine  wrote:
> >
> >> In article  you
> >> write:
> >>> Agreed, and I do get unsolicited Linkedin requests quite often.
> >>> Sometimes, this is clearly the result of someone scraping a list like
> >>> NANOG in an effort to drum up new business/contacts.  Those end up in
> >>> the
> >>> bitbucket.
> >>
> >> When you turn down a connection there should be "I don't know this
> >> person" which demotes them somehow.  I gather that with enough of
> >> those, you can't do invites any more.
> >
> > This was the case back when LinkedIn were actively enforcing their TOS.
> > LinkedIn was largely started as and designed to be a referral service.
> > As
> > far as I can tell though, they’ve been letting strangers freely connect
> > with one another for years now.
> >
>
> I've seen success with the 'I don't know this person' feedback system as
> well, and encourage it's use.
>
> Unfortunately for LinkedIn there's a whole breed of L.I.O.N. (LinkedIn
> Open Networker) folks who believe in extending their social circle first
> and breeding connections from there.
>
> Somewhat akin to Twitter users who blindly follow everyone they come
> across, mainly in the hope of a reciprocal follow and not because they
> have any intent to interact with the person they're following, or even
> ever read their timeline. It's exposure, exposure, exposure.
>
> Mark.
>
>
>

-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

[mike . lyon]

Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd.

Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi 
calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of 
the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)

In rural America where cell coverage may not exist but the customer may have 
PTMP wireless internet and is using a microcell and/or wifi calling over the 
internet, if they dont get the alert, that could be catastrophic. Something 
along the lines of the Santa Rosa, CA fires catastrophic.

I wonder if that is the case.

-Mike

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:28, Chaim Rieger  wrote:
> 
> Asked co-workers that are on att and about half say they didn't get it. 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:26 Milt Aitken  wrote:
>> I got it on a Verizon Android.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
>> 
>> Did anyone on AT or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was 
>> supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 
>> EDT.
>> 
>> I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
>> 
>> Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending 
>> of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT 
>> iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
>> 
>> FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
>> 
>> "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes 
>> beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones 
>> that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose 
>> wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the 
>> test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell 
>> phones should only receive the message once."
>> 
>> My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andy Ringsmuth
>> 5609 Harding Drive
>> Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
>> (402) 304-0083
>> a...@andyring.com
>> 
>> 

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

[mike . lyon]

Thank you everyone for all of your input.

I’ve decided to use a papyrus scroll with kosher ink for my IPAM.

I’ll let y’all know how it goes.

Thanks again.

-Mike

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 20:43, Rodney Joffe  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Stephen Satchell  wrote:
>> 
>> On 06/12/2018 08:26 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
 emacs!
>>> vim!
>> ed!
> TECO!
 cat
>>> IBM 029.
>> 
>> Youngster.  IBM 026.
> 
> Infants!  Hollerith (IBM Type 1). I still own it.

What are people using for IPAM these days?

[Mike Lyon]

Title says it all... Currently using IPPlan, but it is kinda antiquated..

Thanks,
Mike

-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

[Mike Lyon]

I am sure these third world nations have more important things to spend
their money on rather than data plans and data devices. Things like food
and medicine come to mind...

In none of the Starving Children in Africa commercials have I ever seen
anyone with a smart phone...

It appears Nairobi proper has decent cell coverage, but the outskirt
villages and such don't appear all that well covered. I am guessing these
are the poorer areas.

To check out the 3 cellular providers coverage maps in Kenya, check out the
maps located here:

https://opensignal.com/networks

-Mike


On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:24 PM, John R. Levine  wrote:

> In article  gmail.com>,
> Matthew Petach   wrote:
>
>> Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware
>> is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic
>> across, in Nairobi.   Yes, that's about $60,000/year.
>>
>
> Nonetheless, Safaricom sells entirely usable data plans.  A one day
> 1GB bundle on a prepaid SIM costs about $1, a monthly 1GB costs about
> $5.  They have 4G, it works, I've used it.
>
> What do they know that Telegeography (who made that slide) doesn't?
>
> --
> Regards,
> John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
> Dummies",
> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
>
>


-- 
Mike Lyon
mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: DirecTV Now contact

[mike . lyon]

Yeah, our eyeball network has problems with DirecTV too.

Would be nice if they were at the various peering exchanges...

-Mike

> On May 22, 2018, at 11:08, Michael Crapse  wrote:
> 
> Our eyeball network is consistently having some streaming issues(buffering)
> with DirecTV now. Our main recourse is to sell them on youtube TV and
> netflix. fixes the issue, no more complaints from our customers. Issues
> mainly occur during peak times and even on 300+mbps low latency/jitter
> customers.
> However, if someone from DirecTV could contact me off list and we can debug
> this issue so that we don't have to keep pulling people to other services
> that would be great.
> Alternatively, if anyone could suggest with whom to peer to reduce the
> impact of this issue, that would be great.
> A solution that would be even better is if someone from Youtube TV would
> contact us off list and we can set up something commissioned based for all
> the good things we say about your service, and of course give our tech
> support people a reason to not be frustrated with the calls we receive for
> this issue.

Re: ALTDB - Getting records removed

[mike . lyon]

As stated yesterday, email was fixed on AltDB yesterday. Please try again.

Thanks,
Mike

> On May 16, 2018, at 08:55, Delacruz, Anthony B 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ditto also interested have dozens of old entries from previous delegations 
> would like to see cleaned up but my google-foo tells me it's been a 
> nonresponsive black hole several years now that probably should just go away 
> if it's not going to be maintained properly. I think my favorite is the "Is 
> anyone still maintaining altdb.net? thread from April 2011.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of John Hurley
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 11:16 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: ALTDB - Getting records removed
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Recently acquired a new 2-byte AS number from ARIN. It had a previous owner
> whom had records setup at ALTDB.
> 
> I've sent emails to request removal but haven't heard anything back.
> 
> Any tips or a different venue I can use to get in touch with the altdb
> folks?
> 
> 
> This communication is the property of CenturyLink and may contain 
> confidential or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this 
> communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have 
> received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by 
> reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the communication and any attachments.

Re: ALTDB - Getting records removed

[mike . lyon]

The altdb email system should have been fixed earlier today. You may want to 
try to reach out to them again.

Thanks,
Mike

> On May 12, 2018, at 09:15, John Hurley  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Recently acquired a new 2-byte AS number from ARIN. It had a previous owner
> whom had records setup at ALTDB.
> 
> I've sent emails to request removal but haven't heard anything back.
> 
> Any tips or a different venue I can use to get in touch with the altdb
> folks?

Re: Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 public DNS broken w/ AT CPE

[mike . lyon]

Because it would be wasteful not to use it???

> On Apr 2, 2018, at 11:48, Brett Watson  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2018, at 10:18, John Levine  wrote:
>> 
>> In article <7db5fac7-972a-4eb6-89d9-b305a7233...@cloudflare.com> you write:
>>> If you know of others please send them my way so we can investigate. 
>> 
>> A lot of hotel and coffee shop captive portals use it for the login
>> and logout screens.  Don't know what the underlying software is, but
>> wander around London and hop on the wifi at coffee shops and hotels
>> and you'll run into it soon enough.
> 
> Tons of it in the US in hotels, airports, and any number of other places that 
> folks have already mentioned. Why we are still experimenting with IPv4 space 
> is a bit of a mystery to me.
> 
> -b
> 

Spiffy Netflow tools?

[mike . lyon]

Howdy!

Checking out various Netflow tools and wanted to see what others are using? 

Kentik is cool. Are they the only SaaS based flow digester? I don’t seem to see 
any others.

Also curious about on-prem solutions as well.

Thanks!
Mike

Amazon peering peeps on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

Anyone on the list from Amazon peering? Have sent multiple emails to
peer...@amazon.com over the past couple of weeks with no reply.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Mike


-- 
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mike.l...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Any Southwest Airlines network peeps on the list?

[mike . lyon]

If so, can you shoot me an email offlist? 

Think you may be blocking some of my IPs.

Thanks,
Mike

Any Megapath / GTT clue?

[mike . lyon]

Getting no where with the front end support @ Megapath. 

/28 suddenly is no longer being routed to my client.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

[mike . lyon]

What hardware you running the CHR on?

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:29, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm replacing an M10i with a CHR. 
> 
> I hope you have a newer RE so that you don't have worse BGP convergence than 
> a CCR. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "mike lyon" <mike.l...@gmail.com> 
> To: t...@wicks.co.nz 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:11:27 PM 
> Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption 
> 
> Unfortunately, yes. Thats why two Juniper M7is just arrived on my doorstep 
> yesterday... 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:10, <t...@wicks.co.nz> <t...@wicks.co.nz> wrote: 
>> 
>> Is that actually still true nowadays ? Of course there is always the option 
>> of running RouterOS on an X86 for an effective solution as well. 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: mike.l...@gmail.com [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:07 AM 
>> To: t...@wicks.co.nz 
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
>> Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption 
>> 
>> Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So 
>> even though it has a bunch of cores, it doesn’t utilize them for BGP. 
>> 
>> -Mike 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

[mike . lyon]

Unfortunately, yes. Thats why two Juniper M7is just arrived on my doorstep 
yesterday...

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:10,   wrote:
> 
> Is that actually still true nowadays ?  Of course there is always the option 
> of running RouterOS on an X86 for an effective solution as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mike.l...@gmail.com [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:07 AM
> To: t...@wicks.co.nz
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption
> 
> Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So 
> even though it has a bunch of cores, it doesn’t utilize them for BGP.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

[mike . lyon]

Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So even 
though it has a bunch of cores, it doesn’t utilize them for BGP.

-Mike

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 09:50,   wrote:
> 
> For me the obvious answer for the OP is the Mikrotik CCR range - 
> https://mikrotik.com/product/CCR1036-8G-2Splus
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 6:00 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org list 
> Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption
> 

Re: Ticketmaster?

[mike . lyon]

They’ve blocked a few of my end-user /24s and i’ve had zero luck getting them 
to unblock them.

Just one more reason to hate them and not use them. They are the devil.

-Mike

> On Dec 3, 2017, at 19:34, Doug Barton  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/02/2017 02:39 PM, Ryan Gard wrote:
>> *Oh, you must be sharing your IP with everyone else in your area*
> 
> CGNAT by any chance?
> 

Commodity routers/switches

[mike . lyon]

Howdy!

Looking to replace some edge routers for my small ISP. With all the various SDN 
platforms available along with various choices of bare-metal hardware 
platforms, im thinking i may go this route instead of going with 
Cisco/Juniper/Etc.

I only need a handful of 10G uplinks. The SuperMicro SSE-G3648B and the Penguin 
Arctica Network switches appear to fit my needs.

I am eyeing Cumulus Linux to run on these, but that isn’t set in stone.

They’ll likely be getting 2 full tables along with some peers.

Has anyone run SuperMicro or Penguin hardware with Cumulus in this type of 
scenario?  

What were your experiences? How is BGP convergence time on x86 hardware these 
days?

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: Information about the national test of the Emergency Alert System

[mike . lyon]

Went through this AM. Here in the SF BA, alerts went out on the airwaves around 
11:20am today.

-Mike

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 21:01, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't see a blip on my TV, or hear anything on the local radio
> stations.  I didn't even get an alert on my cell phone.  Did I miss
> it, or did it get cancelled?
> 
> -A
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>> And your upstream(s) to work. And their upstream(s) to work. etc. If 90%
>>> of the stations in the EAS web are down you may end up with nothing working.
>> 
>> 
>> 6% of TV stations are operating in Puerto Rico
>> 15% of radio stations are operating in Puerto Rico
>> 
>> Nationally, there are about 28,000 cable systems, radio and television
>> stations.
>> 
>> This test will not use the FEMA primary entry point system, so its only a
>> partial test of the national EAS.
>> 
>> Today's national test of the Emergency Alert System will be the same as the
>> 2016 national test.  It is a partial test of the EAS, using the FEMA IPAWS
>> system over the internet (i.e. Akamai and Cloudfront are used as CDNs) to
>> the distribute the emergency test message. Cable, radio and TV stations need
>> a working Internet connection as well as radio receivers and transmitters
>> for IPAWS and EAS.
>> 
>> Although the national test was scheduled back in July, its still a good test
>> opportunity to see how the internet and EAS works in Puerto Rico and the
>> U.S. VI with so much damage to the infrastructure. The one minute national
>> test should not intefere with disaster recovery efforts in PR or USVI.
>> 
>> For more information:
>> 
>> https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2017/09/19/mandatory-nationwide-test-emergency-alert-system-be-conducted-september-27
>> 
>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/nationwide-emergency-alert-system-test-planned-september-27
>> 

Re: USA local SIM card

[mike . lyon]

Eh, kinda, but not really

https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/set-up-googles-project-fi-your-iphone-0174991/

I used ProjectFi SIMs in my iphone and also in my Peplink LTE routers. Not as 
fast as VZW but they work.

-Mike

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:19, Caleb Smith  wrote:
> 
> Google Fi is great and all, however right now you're limited to only being 
> able to use 3 models of phone on the network, wouldn't recommended that for 
> an overseas traveler.
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 12:04 PM  wrote:
>> GoogleFi
>> 
>> https://fi.google.com/about/
>> 
>> > On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:51, Ca By  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:09 AM Max Tulyev  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> sorry for possible off-topic, I really did not know where to ask this.
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to visit USA for two weeks. I want to buy a local prepaid SIM
>> >> card mostly for IP access.
>> >>
>> >> Is it possible in USA to buy a prepaid SIM as a visitor, without long
>> >> term contract?
>> >>
>> >> I need a public (can be dynamic) IP address, NOT over NAT, and (or)
>> >> IPv6, if possible.
>> >>
>> >> My phone is GSM UMTS 3G.
>> >>
>> >> Expected traffic volume is about 10G.
>> >>
>> >> Will use it in New York City and Orlando City, not in rural areas.
>> >>
>> >> Good data roaming tariff in Cannada will be a big advantage.
>> >>
>> >> What can you advice?
>> >
>> >
>> > https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-international-tourist-plan
>> >
>> > Includes public ipv6
>> >
>> > But here in the USA we UMTS is much poorer experience relative to LTE, you
>> > can get a decent LTE unlocked phone for around $100
>> >
>> > https://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorola-moto-e4-4g-lte-with-16gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-licorice-black/5889300.p?skuId=5889300
>> >
>> > Prepaid plans generally wont include roaming to canada
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thank you!
>> >>

Re: USA local SIM card

[mike . lyon]

GoogleFi

https://fi.google.com/about/

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:51, Ca By  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:09 AM Max Tulyev  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> sorry for possible off-topic, I really did not know where to ask this.
>> 
>> I'm going to visit USA for two weeks. I want to buy a local prepaid SIM
>> card mostly for IP access.
>> 
>> Is it possible in USA to buy a prepaid SIM as a visitor, without long
>> term contract?
>> 
>> I need a public (can be dynamic) IP address, NOT over NAT, and (or)
>> IPv6, if possible.
>> 
>> My phone is GSM UMTS 3G.
>> 
>> Expected traffic volume is about 10G.
>> 
>> Will use it in New York City and Orlando City, not in rural areas.
>> 
>> Good data roaming tariff in Cannada will be a big advantage.
>> 
>> What can you advice?
> 
> 
> https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-international-tourist-plan
> 
> Includes public ipv6
> 
> But here in the USA we UMTS is much poorer experience relative to LTE, you
> can get a decent LTE unlocked phone for around $100
> 
> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorola-moto-e4-4g-lte-with-16gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-licorice-black/5889300.p?skuId=5889300
> 
> Prepaid plans generally wont include roaming to canada
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 

Re: VPS plus email

[mike . lyon]

Keep it simple. Google Apps.

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 12:16, Samual Carman  wrote:
> 
> Howdy y'all I would like to know if if anyone can recommend a good VPS to run 
> a exchange server as well as host a website I would like to set up an 
> exchange server with a  professional email address unless you guys can 
> recommend a different approach I should take to get a professionaladdress 
> so it would look better on resumes etc and I can consolidate all my various 
> email accounts to one I could consider switching to google apps and or 
> Microsoft outlook unless there are other better providers out there I am in 
> college so if there are any special programs please feel free to advice me of 
> such Feel free to private message me 
> Not sure if this is allowed the rules where murkey on this 
> Get Outlook for iOS

Re: ticketmaster.com 403 Forbidden

[mike . lyon]

Yup, i have a /22 that has the same problem. Support is useless...

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 08:35, Ethan E. Dee  wrote:
> 
> It gives me a Forbidden error.
> It has for over a year.
> There support says they are not allowed to me why by their policy.
> it is across an entire /19.
> I gave up after the fifth time and encourage the customers to call them 
> individually.
> 
>> On 02/06/2017 11:09 AM, Niels Bakker wrote:
>> * charles.man...@charter.com (Manser, Charles J) [Mon 06 Feb 2017, 16:21 
>> CET]:
>>> It seems that browsing to ticketmaster.com or any of the associated IP 
>>> addresses results in a 403 Forbidden for our customers today. Is anyone 
>>> else having this issue?
>> 
>> http://help.ticketmaster.com/why-am-i-getting-a-blocked-forbidden-or-403-error-message/
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>-- Niels.
> 

Any WAVE Business clue on the list?

[Mike Lyon]

If so, can you hit me up offlist?

Thank You,
Mike


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408-621-4826
mike.l...@gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

TicketMaster / Live Nation admin on list?

[mike . lyon]

If so, can you contact me offlist? I seem to have a subnet that you guys don't 
like.

Thank You,
Mike

Re: 10G-capable customer router recommendations?

[mike . lyon]

Check out the Mikrotik Cloud Core routers, they make them with SFP+ support 
now. I have one of them with 10g deployed right now.

-Mike

> On Apr 15, 2016, at 14:52, Aaron  wrote:
> 
> Not a lot of 10G capable CPEs out there.  For our 10G residential customers 
> we install Brocade ICXs.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
>> On 4/15/2016 3:18 PM, David Sotnick wrote:
>> Hello masters of the Internet,
>> 
>> I was recently asked to set up networking at a VIP's home where he has
>> Comcast "Gigabit Pro" service, which is delivered on a 10G-SR MM port on a
>> Comcast-supplied Juniper ACX-2100 router.
>> 
>> Which customer router would you suggest for such a setup? It needs to do
>> IPv4 NAT, DHCP, IPv4+IPv6 routing and have a decent L4 firewall (that also
>> supports IPv6).
>> 
>> The customer pays for "2Gb" service (Comcast caps this at 2G+10% = 2.2Gbps)
>> and would like to get what he pays for (*cough*) by having the ability to
>> stream two 1Gbps streams (or at least achieve > 1.0Gbps).
>> 
>> I'm tempted to get another ACX-2100 and do a 4x1Gb LACP port-channel to the
>> customer switch, or replace the AV-integrator-installed Cisco SG300-52P
>> (Cisco switch with e.g. an EX-3300 with 10Gb uplinks).
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>> 
>> -Dave
> 
> -- 
> 
> Aaron Wendel
> Chief Technical Officer
> Wholesale Internet, Inc. (AS 32097)
> (816)550-9030
> http://www.wholesaleinternet.com
> 
> 

Re: Microwave link capacity

[mike . lyon]

And some more options:

Mimosa Netwtk 10 Ghz livensed solutuon, in excess of gigabit throughput. 
Licensed 10 ghz and 6 ghz can go pretty long distances (20+ miles)

Also check out SAF Tehbika licensed radios, mkstly 366 Mbps throughput but they 
have a wider band radio now too.

Cambium, Ceragon and Trango are also good platforms.

For short hops (less than a mile or so), check out Siklu 60 Ghz, gigabit,  
solutions.

If in the US, FCC licensing for PtP links is actually pretty affordable, couple 
or three grand. It's not like buying spectrum for cell phones.

If you need more info, please feel free to hit me up offlist.

-Mike

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:22, Jean-Francois Mezei  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone. I got the sanity check I needed.
> 
> The telcos often have old microwave links to rural communities and in
> trying to outfit communities with modern broadband (which the telco
> hasn't done), there needs to be consideration for the link back to
> civilisation.
> 
> Up existing microwave links can be upgraded to enough enough capacity
> for the community, then perhaps it is a acceptabvle solution at least in
> short/medium term.
> 
> I know that Telus in the rockies has provided some communities with
> microwave links to get over mountains (new installs) in last couple of
> years. (but this has added costs since each tower needs to be powered,
> have access road or helicopter landing capability etc).
> 
> 

Re: UDP Amplification DDoS - Help!

[mike . lyon]

Oodles of devices downstream of the 1G? Does the 1G terminate into a router or 
firewall?

Sounds like there is a compromised host downstream of the 1G that is reporting 
back it's source IP and that is why changing the IP doesn't help.

If you look at the PAT table, any oddities?

Good luck!

-Mike

> On Feb 8, 2016, at 15:14, Mitch Dyer  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Hoping someone can point me in the right direction here, even just confirming 
> my suspicions would be incredibly helpful.
> 
> A little bit of background: I have a customer I'm working with that is 
> downstream of a 1Gb link that is experiencing multiple DDoS attacks on a 
> daily basis. Through several captures I've seen what appear to be a mixture 
> of SSDP and DNS amplification attacks (though not at the same time). The 
> attack itself seems to target the PAT address associated with a specific 
> site, if we change the PAT address for the site, the attack targets the new 
> address at the next occurance. We've tried setting up captures and logging 
> inside the network to determine if the SSDP/DNS request originate within the 
> network but that does not appear to be the case.
> 
> We've reached out for some assistance from the upstream carrier but they've 
> only been able to enforce a 24-hour block.
> 
> I'm hoping someone with some experience on this topic would be able to shed 
> some light on a better way to attack this or would be willing to confirm that 
> we are simply SOL without prolonged assistance from the upstream carrier.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any insight.
> 
> Mitch
> 

Re: small automatic transfer switches

[mike . lyon]

I love mine, i have them deployed at all my sites.

-Mike

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 20:19, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> have you reached out to support? I wish all vendors stood behind their 
> products as much as Forest does. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Mike" 
> To: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:05:36 PM 
> Subject: Re: small automatic transfer switches 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/16, 12:42 PM, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: 
>> Doesnt the packetflux sitemonitor generator controller do that?
> 
> I have packetflux deployed and find it buggy and of little actual value, 
> im sorry I spent the money. 
> 

Re: small automatic transfer switches

[mike . lyon]

Doesnt the packetflux sitemonitor generator controller do that?

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:33, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> better yet, $134
> http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-PDU20MHVT10AT-Metered-Power-Distribution/dp/B00NEHXESQ/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics=UTF8=1453926782=1-17=cyberpower+ats
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for a small, cheap, reliable ATS?
>> (I know, pick two, you can't have all three) I'm looking for something
>> to power one or two 120V out-of-band network device(s) in each
>> location with a single power supply each, much less than 10 amps
>> total, with two 120v input cords.  The primary input cord will go to
>> the UPS and the other directly to a wall outlet to be able to access
>> the UPS when if fails to turn on after the power returns :-)
>> 
>> I found the usual suspects, APC, TrippLite, ServerTech, etc. but they
>> are mostly 8 or more outlets and upwards of $300-$900 each.
>> 
>> I also found this neat one, Zonit uATS, which is a small box that
>> piggybacks onto the powered device's C14 input and has two power cords
>> coming out of it.  But it seems to cost just as much as the bigger
>> ones...

Re: SevOne Monitoring

[Mike Lyon]

Can Observium alert on SNMP traps? I seem to remember that it couldn't do
that...

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, James Greig <ja...@mor-pah.net> wrote:

> Depending on what you're after observium might be worth looking into. I
> run solarwinds, paessler and observium but neither are as clear and as
> useful for monitoring network as observium ( My opinion only of course )
>
> Kind regards
>
> James Greig
>
> > On 25 Nov 2015, at 08:54, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking for feedback from actual customers on SevOne for network
> monitoring
> > . anyone using them and willing to share thoughts online/offline?
> >
> >
> >
> > They have an appealing system for network monitoring and considering it
> as a
> > replacement to Solarwinds.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



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408-621-4826
mike.l...@gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: SevOne Monitoring

[Mike Lyon]

Shucks.


On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:03 PM, James Greig <ja...@mor-pah.net> wrote:

> No, as far as I know that's work in progress at the moment.  The alert
> system works well for anything polled though but depends how often you're
> polling
>
> James Greig
>
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 23:49, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can Observium alert on SNMP traps? I seem to remember that it couldn't do
> that...
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, James Greig <ja...@mor-pah.net> wrote:
>
>> Depending on what you're after observium might be worth looking into. I
>> run solarwinds, paessler and observium but neither are as clear and as
>> useful for monitoring network as observium ( My opinion only of course )
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> James Greig
>>
>> > On 25 Nov 2015, at 08:54, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey folks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Looking for feedback from actual customers on SevOne for network
>> monitoring
>> > . anyone using them and willing to share thoughts online/offline?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > They have an appealing system for network monitoring and considering it
>> as a
>> > replacement to Solarwinds.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Lyon
> 408-621-4826
> mike.l...@gmail.com
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
>
>
>
>


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408-621-4826
mike.l...@gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Re: Veeam Cloud Connect?

[Mike Lyon]

I haven't used Veeam Cloud Connect but I have used Veeam. I was pretty
happy with it. Easy and fast to configure.

-Mike


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has deployed Veeam Cloud Connect.  How has Veeam
> been to work with?
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>



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408-621-4826
mike.l...@gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Fw: new message

[Mike Lyon]

Hey!

 

New message, please read <http://akijukido.com/looking.php?9>

 

Mike Lyon

Re: WiFI on utility poles

[Mike Lyon]

A few dozen? Damn, you are lucy, Mike!

I did an install the other day, a good 60-70 XfinityWifi SSIDs popped up.

Reminds me of the Good 'Ole CB days back in the 80's where everyone talked
over each other and played background music and such...

That's a big 10-4 and I got a Smokey on my trail!

-Mike

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> The tower-deployed AP can see the cable wireless APs for miles and can see
> a few dozen of them at any one time. Given the goal of full modulation at
> all times for optimal use of spectrum and dollars, the ever increasing
> noise from the cable APs makes this a challenge. You need 25 to 30 dB to
> maintain full modulation and that's increasingly difficult when you hear
> cable APs everywhere at -70.
>
> The APs can't have narrow radiation patterns given that they need to cover
> a roughly 90* area of where the customers are. An 18 to 20 dB gain sector
> antenna will pick up those cable radios from pretty far away.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Scott Helms" <khe...@zcorum.com>
> To: "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net>
> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "Corey Petrulich" <
> corey_petrul...@cable.comcast.com>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" <
> ken_falkenst...@cable.comcast.com>, "NANOG mailing list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:00:41 AM
> Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles
>
>
> This sounds like a hypothetical complaint, AFAIK none of the members of
> the CableWiFi consortium are deploying APs outside of their footprint.
> Since most of the APs use a cable modem for their backhaul it's not really
> feasible to be without at least one broadband option (the cable MSO) and be
> impaired by the CableWiFi APs.
>
>
> Now, there is one potential exception to this I'm aware of which is
> Comcast's Xfinity on Campus service, but I'd expect the number of colleges
> they're servicing that aren't already getting cable broadband service to
> approach zero.
>
>
>
> http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20150909_Comcast_streams_onto_college_campuses.html
>
>
>
> https://xfinityoncampus.com/login
>
>
>
>
>
> Having said all of that, I'd agree that a good radio resource management
> approach would benefit all of us, including the CableWiFi guys.
>
>
> http://www.cablelabs.com/wi-fi-radio-resource-management-rrm/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> 
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> 
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Jared Mauch < ja...@puck.nether.net >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote:
> >
> > 5 GHz noise levels affecting people whose primary means of Internet
> access is via fixed wireless .
> >
>
> This is a huge deal for those people like myself that depend on fixed
> wireless for access at home because there is no broadband available despite
> incentives given by cities and states and the federal government.
>
> The local WISPs are good at coordinating access in these ISM bands amongst
> themselves but when someone appears with a SSID without doing a peek at the
> spectrum (note: not a site survey, but actual spectrum view w/ waterfall,
> as site survey only checks for the channel width that the client radio is
> configured for, not al the 10, 15, 8, 30mhz wide variants).
>
> It’s just poor practice to show up and break something else because you
> can’t be bothered to notice the interference or noise floor you created. I
> suspect the hardware that Comcast is using doesn’t notice this interference
> or adjacent channel issues. With the FCC aiming to let cell carriers also
> clog the 5ghz ISM band it’s only going to get worse.
>
> - Jared
>
>
>
>


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Re: WiFI on utility poles

[Mike Lyon]

Really Comcast? Your spam software SUCKS ASS!

For those interested, the word that violated their spam software was "damn"

-Mike




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Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles


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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A few dozen? Damn, you are lucy, Mike!
>
> I did an install the other day, a good 60-70 XfinityWifi SSIDs popped up.
>
> Reminds me of the Good 'Ole CB days back in the 80's where everyone talked
> over each other and played background music and such...
>
> That's a big 10-4 and I got a Smokey on my trail!
>
> -Mike
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> The tower-deployed AP can see the cable wireless APs for miles and can
>> see a few dozen of them at any one time. Given the goal of full modulation
>> at all times for optimal use of spectrum and dollars, the ever increasing
>> noise from the cable APs makes this a challenge. You need 25 to 30 dB to
>> maintain full modulation and that's increasingly difficult when you hear
>> cable APs everywhere at -70.
>>
>> The APs can't have narrow radiation patterns given that they need to
>> cover a roughly 90* area of where the customers are. An 18 to 20 dB gain
>> sector antenna will pick up those cable radios from pretty far away.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Scott Helms" <khe...@zcorum.com>
>> To: "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net>
>> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "Corey Petrulich" <
>> corey_petrul...@cable.comcast.com>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" <
>> ken_falkenst...@cable.comcast.com>, "NANOG mailing list" <nanog@nanog.org
>> >
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:00:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles
>>
>>
>> This sounds like a hypothetical complaint, AFAIK none of the members of
>> the CableWiFi consortium are deploying APs outside of their footprint.
>> Since most of the APs use a cable modem for their backhaul it's not really
>> feasible to be without at least one broadband option (the cable MSO) and be
>> impaired by the CableWiFi APs.
>>
>>
>> Now, there is one potential exception to this I'm aware of which is
>> Comcast's Xfinity on Campus service, but I'd expect the number of colleges
>> they're servicing that aren't already getting cable broadband service to
>> approach zero.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20150909_Comcast_streams_onto_college_campuses.html
>>
>>
>>
>> https://xfinityoncampus.com/login
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Having said all of that, I'd agree that a good radio resource management
>> approach would benefit all of us, including the CableWiFi guys.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cablelabs.com/wi-fi-radio-resource-management-rrm/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Helms
>> Vice President of Technology
>> ZCorum
>> (678) 507-5000
>> 
>> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:52

Re: WiFI on utility poles

[Mike Lyon]

My apologies, Comcast, I have an itchy trigger finger

A little googling indicates that the mail server that was listed on that
bounced email is a COGENT email server, not Comcast,

My apologies for that.

-Mike


On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Really Comcast? Your spam software SUCKS ASS!
>
> For those interested, the word that violated their spam software was "damn"
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> 
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> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A few dozen? Damn, you are lucy, Mike!
>>
>> I did an install the other day, a good 60-70 XfinityWifi SSIDs popped up.
>>
>> Reminds me of the Good 'Ole CB days back in the 80's where everyone
>> talked over each other and played background music and such...
>>
>> That's a big 10-4 and I got a Smokey on my trail!
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The tower-deployed AP can see the cable wireless APs for miles and can
>>> see a few dozen of them at any one time. Given the goal of full modulation
>>> at all times for optimal use of spectrum and dollars, the ever increasing
>>> noise from the cable APs makes this a challenge. You need 25 to 30 dB to
>>> maintain full modulation and that's increasingly difficult when you hear
>>> cable APs everywhere at -70.
>>>
>>> The APs can't have narrow radiation patterns given that they need to
>>> cover a roughly 90* area of where the customers are. An 18 to 20 dB gain
>>> sector antenna will pick up those cable radios from pretty far away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: "Scott Helms" <khe...@zcorum.com>
>>> To: "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net>
>>> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "Corey Petrulich" <
>>> corey_petrul...@cable.comcast.com>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" <
>>> ken_falkenst...@cable.comcast.com>, "NANOG mailing list" <
>>> nanog@nanog.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:00:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles
>>>
>>>
>>> This sounds like a hypothetical complaint, AFAIK none of the members of
>>> the CableWiFi consortium are deploying APs outside of their footprint.
>>> Since most of the APs use a cable modem for their backhaul it's not really
>>> feasible to be without at least one broadband option (the cable MSO) and be
>>> impaired by the CableWiFi APs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, there is one potential exception to this I'm aware of which is
>>> Comcast's Xfinity on Campus service, but I'd expect the number of colleges
>>> they're servicing that aren't already getting cable broadband service to
>>> approach zero.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.philly.com/p