Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Eliot Lear]

On 12/8/15 1:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> they eat better food than we do

Not in my considerable experience.  I always thought that was part of
the problem.

Eliot




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IGF Mandate Renewl

[Steve Mikulasik]

The UN's Internet Governance Forum is up for renewal at the end of 2015, 
without UN approval they will be shutdown. I am relatively new here and haven't 
seen much discussion about IGF and UN (attempted) involvement in the internet. 
How do people feel about the IGF and should it be renewed by the UN? I can't 
really figure out what gap they fill other than being big conference.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum#2015_mandate_renewal

Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Randy Bush]

> but the ITU is a larger conference over more time, so that's a plus,
> right?  also, it's international, and telephone, so really .. .they
> are super qualified to talk about internet governance stuff.

they eat better food than we do

though i may endure san dogville for the sake of roberto's carne asada
burritos

Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Owen DeLong]

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 11:08 , Christopher Morrow  wrote:
> 
> but the ITU is a larger conference over more time, so that's a plus, right?

Not necessarily.

The ITU is much less democratic and fails to incorporate a wide variety of 
stakeholders.

The IGF isn’t a whole lot better in this regard, but the IGF has the advantage 
of being a non-binding cooperative process
where the ITU can fall back on certain treaty obligations to inflict its will.


> also, it's international, and telephone, so really .. .they are super
> qualified to talk about internet governance stuff.

Sarcasm, right?

Owen


> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Owen DeLong  wrote:
>> The IGF is certainly preferable to moving this role into the ITU.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:37 , Steve Mikulasik  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The UN's Internet Governance Forum is up for renewal at the end of 2015, 
>>> without UN approval they will be shutdown. I am relatively new here and 
>>> haven't seen much discussion about IGF and UN (attempted) involvement in 
>>> the internet. How do people feel about the IGF and should it be renewed by 
>>> the UN? I can't really figure out what gap they fill other than being big 
>>> conference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum#2015_mandate_renewal
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Joly MacFie]

The Internet Society has been very involved in this. Latest report is here:
https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/public-policy/2015/12/where-wsis-heading-post-2015





On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Steve Mikulasik 
wrote:

> The UN's Internet Governance Forum is up for renewal at the end of 2015,
> without UN approval they will be shutdown. I am relatively new here and
> haven't seen much discussion about IGF and UN (attempted) involvement in
> the internet. How do people feel about the IGF and should it be renewed by
> the UN? I can't really figure out what gap they fill other than being big
> conference.
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum#2015_mandate_renewal
>
>
>


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Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Christopher Morrow]

but the ITU is a larger conference over more time, so that's a plus, right?
also, it's international, and telephone, so really .. .they are super
qualified to talk about internet governance stuff.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Owen DeLong  wrote:
> The IGF is certainly preferable to moving this role into the ITU.
>
> Owen
>
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:37 , Steve Mikulasik  wrote:
>>
>> The UN's Internet Governance Forum is up for renewal at the end of 2015, 
>> without UN approval they will be shutdown. I am relatively new here and 
>> haven't seen much discussion about IGF and UN (attempted) involvement in the 
>> internet. How do people feel about the IGF and should it be renewed by the 
>> UN? I can't really figure out what gap they fill other than being big 
>> conference.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum#2015_mandate_renewal
>>
>>
>

Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Owen DeLong]

The IGF is certainly preferable to moving this role into the ITU.

Owen

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:37 , Steve Mikulasik  wrote:
> 
> The UN's Internet Governance Forum is up for renewal at the end of 2015, 
> without UN approval they will be shutdown. I am relatively new here and 
> haven't seen much discussion about IGF and UN (attempted) involvement in the 
> internet. How do people feel about the IGF and should it be renewed by the 
> UN? I can't really figure out what gap they fill other than being big 
> conference.
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum#2015_mandate_renewal
> 
> 

Re: IGF Mandate Renewl

[Christopher Morrow]

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Owen DeLong  wrote:
>
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 11:08 , Christopher Morrow  
>> wrote:
>> also, it's international, and telephone, so really .. .they are super
>> qualified to talk about internet governance stuff.
>
> Sarcasm, right?

always with respect to the ITU, always.

(I dont' disagree with your position on this matter, at all)