Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-09 Thread vaibhav nikam
Hi,

You can check with CenturyLink

Regards

Vaib

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Max Tulyev max...@netassist.ua wrote:

 Hi!

 If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise.

 On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:
  We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in
 Dallas.
  They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
  recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
  Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
  long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
  bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
 




Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-09 Thread Jason Canady
Another good choice would be Cogent, AS174.  We use Cogent along with 
Level 3.  I'd say 2/3 of our traffic is on Level 3 and 1/3 on Cogent.  
It's been a great blend for us.  Justin Wilson recently made some great 
comments about Cogent on Feb 6, reference subject: Re: Input Regarding 
Cogent and NTT.


At this point, I would fully rely on Cogent for maintenance or outages 
on Level 3.  A year and a half ago, they had some problems between 
providers such as Comcast.  With Netflix getting direct connections, 
this is now resolved.


--

Jason Canady
Unlimited Net, LLC
www.unlimitednet.us
twitter: @unlimitednet

On 2/9/15 2:29 AM, vaibhav nikam wrote:

Hi,

You can check with CenturyLink

Regards

Vaib

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Max Tulyev max...@netassist.ua wrote:


Hi!

If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise.

On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:

We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in

Dallas.

They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.







Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-08 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi!

If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise.

On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:
 We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas.
 They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
 recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
 Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
 long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
 bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
 



Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't know how accurate it is, but here's a site that more plainly spells out 
upstream\peer\customer: 

https://radar.qrator.net/ 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
To: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com 
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 2:15:29 PM 
Subject: Re: Provider to Blend with Level3 

We approach this in the following empirical manner. 

1) Who is available to you easily and within the budget. 

2) Where is the other side of the network connectivity consumers ? 
i.e. do you need good connectivity to Cable Network ? ATT Broadband ? Europe ? 
Mexico ? Latin America ? 

3) What is the bulk of the traffic type ? Consumer (Video / You Tube ? Netflix 
? ) Business ? etc 


based on the answers to above, I would look at the bgp.he.net to see each 
options upstream connectivity, and check with peeringdb to see what could be 
their peering relationships finding one that does not have a directly 
Level3 relationship would be preferred. 

Also, don't forget to do traffic engineering to nullify the Level3 traffic 
engineering, (They prefer to keep traffic on-net even if there are better paths 
available out of their network). 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message - 
 From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com 
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 12:26:55 PM 
 Subject: Provider to Blend with Level3 
 
 We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. 
 They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you 
 recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming 
 Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a 
 long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being 
 bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense. 
 



Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We approach this in the following empirical manner.

1) Who is available to you easily and within the budget.

2) Where is the other side of the network connectivity consumers ? 
 i.e. do you need good connectivity to Cable Network ? ATT Broadband ? Europe ? 
Mexico ? Latin America ?

3) What is the bulk of the traffic type ?  Consumer (Video / You Tube ? Netflix 
? ) Business ? etc


based on the answers to above, I would look at the bgp.he.net to see each 
options upstream connectivity, and check with peeringdb to see what could be 
their peering relationships  finding one that does not have a directly 
Level3 relationship would be preferred.

Also, don't forget to do traffic engineering to nullify the Level3 traffic 
engineering, (They prefer to keep traffic on-net even if there are better paths 
available out of their network).


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
 From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com
 To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 12:26:55 PM
 Subject: Provider to Blend with Level3
 
 We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas.
 They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
 recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
 Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
 long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
 bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
 


Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Alex Wacker
With how many people cogent connects with, it is almost never a bad
idea to have them in your mix.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas.
 They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
 recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
 Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
 long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
 bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.


Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Colton Conor
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas.
They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you
recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming
Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a
long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being
bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.