Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Jay R Ashworth
Lynda shr...@deaddrop.org wrote:

On 8/30/2011 10:36 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

 See again the name of this list  ;-)

Oh, dear. I'll bet anything you didn't mean this to go to NANOG.

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   what he asks for, instead of what he needs.  This is very strong
   medicine, and is normally only required once.

Must. Not. Post. After. 1am.

Sorry, all.
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Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay R Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

Must. Not. Post. After. 1am.

Nor su after the third drink. ;)

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Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com

 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay R Ashworth j...@baylink.com
 wrote:
 
 Must. Not. Post. After. 1am.
 
 Nor su after the third drink. ;)

Nah; I have the patched version of sudo, with beer google protection built
in -- you have to supply a random command line switch from a definition
before it lets you execute the first command.

Cheers,
-- jr 'oh, ghod; someone's gonna write that, now, right?' a
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RE: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Leigh Porter


 -Original Message-
 From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com]
 Sent: 31 August 2011 14:34
 To: NANOG
 Subject: Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)
 
 - Original Message -
  From: Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com
 
  On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay R Ashworth j...@baylink.com
  wrote:
 
  Must. Not. Post. After. 1am.
 
  Nor su after the third drink. ;)
 
 Nah; I have the patched version of sudo, with beer google protection
 built
 in -- you have to supply a random command line switch from a definition
 before it lets you execute the first command.
 

But you really haven't lived until you have brought up peers for beers at 
NANOG/RIPE..

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Leigh



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Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:32:43 EDT, Jay Ashworth said:
 Nah; I have the patched version of sudo, with beer google protection built
 in -- you have to supply a random command line switch from a definition
 before it lets you execute the first command.

The real reason GNU ls is 8-bit-clean is so that they can start using
ISO-8859-1 option characters.  - Christopher Davis (c...@loiosh.kei.com)

:)


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Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu

 The real reason GNU ls is 8-bit-clean is so that they can start using
 ISO-8859-1 option characters. - Christopher Davis
 (c...@loiosh.kei.com)

And the award for Funniest Thing I've Heard All Year That No One Else Would 
Get goes... *to*

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-30 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Fairlight fairl...@fairlite.com

 Unless someone dumbs down and jails their environment for them, which
 I'm staunchly against for anything except ftp or sftp use.

This is, um, the *filePro* mailing list.

Quick: who on here has ever set up a Unix user to go directly into
a filePro menu?

:-)

 My belief is that if you can't configure a simple terminal emulator, you're
 quite possibly a menace with an operating system a few hundred times as
 complex. All the chmod 0777 monkeys out there haven't done anything but
 reinforce my opinion over the years. There are some notable exceptions,
 but I'm wary of putting non-technical people in front of an actual shell
 prompt.

Yup.  Why I never do it.
 
 And I've never been a fan of pseudo-jailed environments. I've yet to find
 one I can't find -some- way out of (including at a bank, who overlooked
 the fact that WordPerfect had a shell escape buried in it!), and admins
 place way too much trust in the stupidity of the users they fool into
 thinking their access is limited. Sorry, changing the prompt to look
 like a several-choice menu is -not- security. (Yes, I know a company that
 does this.)

Ha.  :-)

In practice, in 20 years, on well over 500 seats, I *never* had a problem.

Never.


 But I'd never let someone near my own box if they can't even configure
 a PuTTY connection to it. Oh, -hell- no. :)

Strawman.  Wasn't suggesting that you should.

See again the name of this list  ;-)

Cheers,
-- jra
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