Re: SMS gateways

[Adam Kennedy]

The device can definitely send texts. I had to purchase the device as a
data only device, then I contacted support and told them I was working with
Cisco on a project where the router uses these devices but needs text
capability. They did some magic on the number in their system and got it up
and running.


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that the device can send texts. I use the same 320U and 340U
> with AT and T-Mobile sims. Text is actually how they reset your account
> password if you need it. I use the prepaid plans.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ray Orsini – CEO
> Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants
> VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH  SECURITY  SUPPORT
> P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
> 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
> http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices | View
> Your Tickets
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:46 AM
> To: Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>; Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com
> >
> Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: SMS gateways
>
> According to AT sales, the Netgear Beam is a "data-only" device and
> cannot
> send SMS when I just tried to order one. I wouldn't care what they thought,
> but they won't let me set up a plan that includes text. Anyone have any
> suggestions?
>
>
> 
> Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd Director of Operations   |
> Purchase, NY 10577 OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
> aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-694-5669
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:26 AM
> > To: Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com>
> > Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> >
> > It was some special offer on our AT small business site. Maybe they
> > were
> > $40 each. I wasn't the one that ordered them but I know they were
> > pretty cheap and so far working fine!
> >
> >
> > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> >
> > Broadband Networks
> >
> > A Watch Communications Company
> >
> > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> >
> > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> >
> > adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > www.broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com> wrote:
> >
> > > We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for
> > $20?
> > > We
> > > usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray Orsini – CEO
> > > Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH 
> > > SECURITY  SUPPORT
> > > P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
> > > 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
> > > http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices
> > > | View Your Tickets
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam
> > > Kennedy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
> > > To: frnk...@iname.com
> > > Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> > > Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> > >
> > > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE
> > network.
> > > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units
> > > that makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into
> > > a Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to
> > > send SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's
> > > were $20 I think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our
> > > corporate plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> > >
> > > Broadband Networks
> > >
> > > A Watch Communications Company
> > >
> > > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> > >
> > > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-5

RE: SMS gateways

[Matthew Huff]

According to AT sales, the Netgear Beam is a "data-only" device and cannot 
send SMS when I just tried to order one. I wouldn't care what they thought, but 
they won't let me set up a plan that includes text. Anyone have any suggestions?



Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff    | Fax:   914-694-5669

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:26 AM
> To: Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com>
> Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> 
> It was some special offer on our AT small business site. Maybe they
> were
> $40 each. I wasn't the one that ordered them but I know they were pretty
> cheap and so far working fine!
> 
> 
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> 
> Broadband Networks
> 
> A Watch Communications Company
> 
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> 
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> 
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> 
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
> 
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com> wrote:
> 
> > We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for
> $20?
> > We
> > usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray Orsini – CEO
> > Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH 
> > SECURITY  SUPPORT
> > P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
> > 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
> > http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices |
> > View Your Tickets
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
> > To: frnk...@iname.com
> > Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> >
> > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE
> network.
> > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> > makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a
> > Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send
> > SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I
> > think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate
> > plan.
> >
> >
> > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> >
> > Broadband Networks
> >
> > A Watch Communications Company
> >
> > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> >
> > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> >
> > adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > www.broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy
> > <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE
> network.
> > > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units
> > > that makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into
> > > a Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to
> > > send SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's
> > > were $20 I think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our
> corporate plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> > >
> > > Broadband Networks
> > >
> > > A Watch Communications Company
> > >
> > > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> > >
> > > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> > >
> > > adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> > >
> > > www.broadbandnetworks.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM, <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that
> > >> will support 2G. =)
> > >>
> > >> Frank
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
> > >> To: nanog@nanog.org
> > >> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
> > >> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> > >>
> > >> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
> > >> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
> > >> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
> > >> >
> > >> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't
> > >> >stable,
> > >> needing a reboot every few months,
> > >> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
> > >>
> > >> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses
> > >> a 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
> > >> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
> > >> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
> > >>
> > >> What do you plan to do instead next year?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >

RE: SMS gateways

[Ray Orsini]

I can confirm that the device can send texts. I use the same 320U and 340U
with AT and T-Mobile sims. Text is actually how they reset your account
password if you need it. I use the prepaid plans.

Regards,

Ray Orsini – CEO
Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants
VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH  SECURITY  SUPPORT
P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices | View
Your Tickets



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:46 AM
To: Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>; Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com>
Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: SMS gateways

According to AT sales, the Netgear Beam is a "data-only" device and cannot
send SMS when I just tried to order one. I wouldn't care what they thought,
but they won't let me set up a plan that includes text. Anyone have any
suggestions?



Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd Director of Operations   |
Purchase, NY 10577 OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-694-5669

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:26 AM
> To: Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com>
> Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>
> It was some special offer on our AT small business site. Maybe they
> were
> $40 each. I wasn't the one that ordered them but I know they were
> pretty cheap and so far working fine!
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com> wrote:
>
> > We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for
> $20?
> > We
> > usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray Orsini – CEO
> > Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH 
> > SECURITY  SUPPORT
> > P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
> > 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
> > http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices
> > | View Your Tickets
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam
> > Kennedy
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
> > To: frnk...@iname.com
> > Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> >
> > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE
> network.
> > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units
> > that makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into
> > a Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to
> > send SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's
> > were $20 I think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our
> > corporate plan.
> >
> >
> > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> >
> > Broadband Networks
> >
> > A Watch Communications Company
> >
> > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> >
> > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> >
> > adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > www.broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy
> > <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE
> network.
> > > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units
> > > that makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those
> > > into a Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source
> > > software to send SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The
> > > AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us about $15/mo as
> > > additional lines on our
> corporate plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> > >
> > > Broadband Networks
> > >
> > > A Watch Communications Company
> > >
> > > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> > >
> > > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> > >
> > > a

Re: SMS gateways

[Adam Kennedy]

It was some special offer on our AT small business site. Maybe they were
$40 each. I wasn't the one that ordered them but I know they were pretty
cheap and so far working fine!


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Ray Orsini <r...@orsiniit.com> wrote:

> We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for $20?
> We
> usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.
>
> Regards,
> Ray Orsini – CEO
> Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants
> VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH  SECURITY  SUPPORT
> P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
> 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
> http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices | View
> Your Tickets
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
> To: frnk...@iname.com
> Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>
> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes
> them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box and
> I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
> directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
> about
> $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> > Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> > makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a
> > Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send
> > SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I
> > think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
> >
> >
> > Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
> >
> > Broadband Networks
> >
> > A Watch Communications Company
> >
> > PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
> >
> > Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
> >
> > adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > www.broadbandnetworks.com
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM, <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that
> >> will support 2G. =)
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
> >> To: nanog@nanog.org
> >> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
> >> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
> >>
> >> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
> >> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
> >> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
> >> >
> >> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't
> >> >stable,
> >> needing a reboot every few months,
> >> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
> >>
> >> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
> >> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
> >> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
> >> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
> >>
> >> What do you plan to do instead next year?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: SMS gateways

[Adam Kennedy]

I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
wrote:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
> and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
> directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
> about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM, <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
>
>> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that will
>> support 2G. =)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
>> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>>
>> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
>> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>> >
>> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable,
>> needing a reboot every few months,
>> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
>>
>> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
>> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
>> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
>> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
>>
>> What do you plan to do instead next year?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

RE: SMS gateways

[Ray Orsini]

We use those a lot with mobile hotspots. Where did you find them for $20? We
usually pay about 2x that much for used untis.

Regards,
Ray Orsini – CEO
Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants
VOICE DATA  BANDWIDTH  SECURITY  SUPPORT
P: 305.967.6756 x1009   E: r...@orsiniit.com   TF: 844.OIT.VOIP
7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016
http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices | View
Your Tickets



-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:56 AM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SMS gateways

I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that makes
them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box and
I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us about
$15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.


Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer

Broadband Networks

A Watch Communications Company

PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173

Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897

adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com

www.broadbandnetworks.com

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Adam Kennedy <adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
wrote:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a
> Debian box and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send
> SMS from the unit directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I
> think and cost us about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.
>
>
> Adam Kennedy | Network & Systems Engineer
>
> Broadband Networks
>
> A Watch Communications Company
>
> PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
>
> Tel - 866-586-1518 | Fax - 866-567-3897
>
> adamkenn...@broadbandnetworks.com
>
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:38 PM, <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
>
>> I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that
>> will support 2G. =)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Cc: frnk...@iname.com
>> Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>>
>> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS:
>> http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>> >
>> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't
>> >stable,
>> needing a reboot every few months,
>> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
>>
>> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
>> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
>> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
>> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
>>
>> What do you plan to do instead next year?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: SMS gateways

[Bjørn Mork]

Adam Kennedy  writes:

> I picked up two of the AT "Beam" USB devices that use the LTE network.
> Netgear is the listed manufacturer and has firmware for the units that
> makes them usable on Linux. I loaded the driver for those into a Debian box
> and I'm able to use smstools open source software to send SMS from the unit
> directly to cell network. The AT Beam's were $20 I think and cost us
> about $15/mo as additional lines on our corporate plan.

Note that messaging in LTE networks tend to use IP, just like voice in
LTE networks.  It seems a little awkward having to use an LTE device
just to set up a dedicated IP VPN for SMS delivery if you have any other
fixed IP access at the site...

But I guess hiding all the nasty IMS implementation details in the LTE
module firmware, controlling it by standard GSM AT commands, has some
benefit here.  At least the firmware source code is unavailable so you
don't see how hideous it is :)


Bjørn

RE: SMS gateways

[frnkblk]

I plan to continue living in a rural area with a GSM provider that will support 
2G. =)

Frank

-Original Message-
From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 5:24 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Cc: frnk...@iname.com
Subject: Re: SMS gateways

In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS: 
>http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>
>Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable, 
>needing a reboot every few months,
>but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.

It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.

What do you plan to do instead next year?

RE: SMS gateways

[Frank Bulk]

Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS: 
http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms

Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable, needing 
a reboot every few months, but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of David Hubbard
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:36 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: SMS gateways

Hey all, was curious if anyone has opinions on the FoxBox vs SMS Eagle boxes 
for sending SMS alerts directly to the cell network?

http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-iq.html/
http://www.smseagle.eu/store/en/devices/1-sms-eagle.html

Any alternative options would be appreciated too.  I saw Microcom’s iSMS modem 
mentioned in the list archives but it’s only 2G so likely won’t be viable much 
longer.

The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is whether or 
not you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans for use by these 
types of devices.  We have all of our OpenGear out of band console servers on 
Verizon and they have these special ‘machine’ plans for $10/mo with very 
limited bandwidth, so that has allowed us to deploy a bunch of them without 
worrying about a huge phone bill.

Thanks,

David

Re: SMS gateways

[John Levine]

In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
>Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS: 
>http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
>
>Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable, 
>needing a reboot every few months,
>but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.

It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.

What do you plan to do instead next year?

Re: SMS gateways

[Jared Mauch]

On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 11:23:59PM -, John Levine wrote:
> In article <006501d14b31$7c478e40$74d6aac0$@iname.com> you write:
> >Surprised no one has mentioned the Multimodem iSMS: 
> >http://www.multitech.com/brands/multimodem-isms
> >
> >Been using it for 5+ years -- first three years the code wasn't stable, 
> >needing a reboot every few months,
> >but the latest code has been stable for 2+ years.
> 
> It looked interesting until I got to the part where it says it uses a
> 2G GSM modem.  AT has said quite firmly that they will turn off
> their 2G network in 2017, and press reports say that T-Mobile is
> already turning off 2G in favor of LTE.
> 
> What do you plan to do instead next year?

I last purchased a USB "3G modem" for around $12 including shipping
which supports SMS.  it doesn't need to use the 3G part for data though, just
for the control channel.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-ZTE-MF110-3G-850-1900-2100-Mhz-GSM-USB-Mobile-Broadband-Modem-/121822901176

There are cheaper ones to be had, but this isn't exactly something
that is a budget breaker.  Get a good provider and life will be just
fine for you.  I have a T-Mobile SIM in mine and they don't charge for
most international texts like other carriers so makes a perfect SMS
device.  (Looks like HSPA+ LTE ones can be had around $40 without putting
much effort into it).

The biggsest problem I had was setting the AT command to make it
default to the right mode vs using usbmodeswitch in Linux, but mostly because
this was the first device I used like this in over a decade myself.

- Jared

-- 
Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from ja...@puck.nether.net
clue++;  | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My statements are only mine.

Re: SMS gateways

[Alex Buie]

Based on a cursory pass of the FB website I can't find any of their
products that have a CDMA modem - so they're definitely incorrect in that
sense. Voice, text, 2G and 3G data are all CDMA on Verizon, unless you're
doing something with SMS over IMS which is only supported with LTE capable
hardware on the Verizon side.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:40 PM, David Hubbard  wrote:

> Scott, I was interested in that as well, it was in my original post.  I’m
> considering that and the SMSEagle; both are from Europe.  I can’t find too
> much on them from a real world war stories perspective, but there has been
> mention of the FoxBox on nanog in years past, so there are some users out
> there.
>
> I am not going the Microtik+cell modem route that Faisal mentioned in his
> reply post because the intent is to tie the SMS alerting into other systems
> using some form of API, and both FoxBox and SMSEagle make that incredibly
> easy by having a simple http interface for sending texts, or a full API if
> you need to do two way.  The nagios plugin (and Zabbix too) are super
> simple since it’s just HTTP POST to send the alerts.
>
> FoxBox claims it will work on Verizon networks because of the 3G support,
> but that doesn’t leave me with a comfortable feeling, so if we buy in, we’d
> probably get accounts from a GSM carrier for it, although I can’t find
> whether or not AT, etc. offer machine accounts, and I would not want to
> pay $50/mo per device just to send random texts.
>
> I did get an off list reply from someone who let me know that our existing
> OpenGear devices (cell+ethernet console servers that run linux) have the
> ability to send SMS using a utility already present in the OS install.
> Since we already have those in every location we’d also be putting an SMS
> gateway, I’m going to investigate if we could put a cgi script or something
> similar on them to accomplish the same goal with no additional equipment.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/16, 3:34 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Scott Fisher" <
> nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of littlefish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?
> >
> >http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/
> >
> >I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine  wrote:
> >>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to
> avoid. We used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
> >>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000
> phone bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
> >>>carefully!
> >>
> >> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
> >> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
> >> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Scott
>

Re: SMS gateways

[Scott Fisher]

Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?

http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/

I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine  wrote:
>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. We 
>>used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 phone 
>>bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
>>carefully!
>
> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
>



-- 
Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[Scott Fisher]

I am well aware of email-to-sms, but that is dependant on
links/infrastructure that you are monitoring. (Think of it like having your
Nagios system running on the same hypervisor as your other production gear.
What happens if the hypervisor drops? How would you know?)

The hardware sms gateway allows for true oob notifications.

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> There are multiple ways to skin this cat !.
>
> No, not familiar with this product...
>
> However..
>
> 1) You know that you can send sms messages via email to pretty much any
> cell phone.
>
> 2) Personal Preference, if I was doing so, I would do it with a small
> mikrotik router + usb cell modem, very inexpensive, especially when
> combined with a M2M plan.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Scott Fisher" <littlefish...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > To: "John Levine" <jo...@iecc.com <javascript:;>>
> > Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org <javascript:;>>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 3:34:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: SMS gateways
>
> > Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?
> >
> > http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/
> >
> > I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to
> avoid. We
> >>>used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
> >>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000
> phone
> >>>bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
> >>>carefully!
> >>
> >> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
> >> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
> >> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Scott
>


-- 
Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[Faisal Imtiaz]

There are multiple ways to skin this cat !.

No, not familiar with this product... 

However..

1) You know that you can send sms messages via email to pretty much any cell 
phone.

2) Personal Preference, if I was doing so, I would do it with a small mikrotik 
router + usb cell modem, very inexpensive, especially when combined with a M2M 
plan.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Scott Fisher" <littlefish...@gmail.com>
> To: "John Levine" <jo...@iecc.com>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 3:34:42 PM
> Subject: Re: SMS gateways

> Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?
> 
> http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/
> 
> I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
>>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. We
>>>used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
>>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 phone
>>>bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
>>>carefully!
>>
>> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
>> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
>> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[Scott Fisher]

I emailed smsfoxbox support asking about US network support. I am
hoping to hear back soon and I will let you all know the answer.

Thanks,
Scott

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:40 PM, David Hubbard
 wrote:
> Scott, I was interested in that as well, it was in my original post.  I’m 
> considering that and the SMSEagle; both are from Europe.  I can’t find too 
> much on them from a real world war stories perspective, but there has been 
> mention of the FoxBox on nanog in years past, so there are some users out 
> there.
>
> I am not going the Microtik+cell modem route that Faisal mentioned in his 
> reply post because the intent is to tie the SMS alerting into other systems 
> using some form of API, and both FoxBox and SMSEagle make that incredibly 
> easy by having a simple http interface for sending texts, or a full API if 
> you need to do two way.  The nagios plugin (and Zabbix too) are super simple 
> since it’s just HTTP POST to send the alerts.
>
> FoxBox claims it will work on Verizon networks because of the 3G support, but 
> that doesn’t leave me with a comfortable feeling, so if we buy in, we’d 
> probably get accounts from a GSM carrier for it, although I can’t find 
> whether or not AT, etc. offer machine accounts, and I would not want to pay 
> $50/mo per device just to send random texts.
>
> I did get an off list reply from someone who let me know that our existing 
> OpenGear devices (cell+ethernet console servers that run linux) have the 
> ability to send SMS using a utility already present in the OS install.  Since 
> we already have those in every location we’d also be putting an SMS gateway, 
> I’m going to investigate if we could put a cgi script or something similar on 
> them to accomplish the same goal with no additional equipment.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/16, 3:34 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Scott Fisher" 
>  wrote:
>
>>Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?
>>
>>http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/
>>
>>I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.
>>
>>On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine  wrote:
Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. 
We used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 
phone bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
carefully!
>>>
>>> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
>>> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
>>> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Scott



-- 
Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Yep, agreed in certain situations a hardware gateway is more useful. 

That is what I listed as item #1. A small Mikrotik Router + USB Cell Stick of 
your choice. 
make for a very inexpensive, flexible gateway. 

http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/CO10/day1/03-arnis_3g.pdf 
(quiet a few options for different form-factors) 

http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US11/us11-brian.pdf 

Regards 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Scott Fisher" <littlefish...@gmail.com>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "John Levine" <jo...@iecc.com>, "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 3:55:07 PM
> Subject: Re: SMS gateways

> I am well aware of email-to-sms, but that is dependant on links/infrastructure
> that you are monitoring. (Think of it like having your Nagios system running 
> on
> the same hypervisor as your other production gear. What happens if the
> hypervisor drops? How would you know? )
> The hardware sms gateway allows for true oob notifications.

> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
> wrote:

>> There are multiple ways to skin this cat !.

>> No, not familiar with this product...

>> However..

>> 1) You know that you can send sms messages via email to pretty much any cell
>> phone.

>> 2) Personal Preference, if I was doing so, I would do it with a small 
>> mikrotik
>> router + usb cell modem, very inexpensive, especially when combined with a 
>> M2M
>> plan.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Scott Fisher" < littlefish...@gmail.com >
>> > To: "John Levine" < jo...@iecc.com >
>> > Cc: "nanog list" < nanog@nanog.org >
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 3:34:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: SMS gateways

>> > Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?

>> > http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/

>> > I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.

>> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine < jo...@iecc.com > wrote:
>> >>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to 
>> >>>avoid. We
>> >>>used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
>> >>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 
>> >>>phone
>> >>>bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
>> >>>carefully!

>> >> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
>> >> something like Tracfone. If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
>> >> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.




>> > --
>> > Scott

> --
> Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[David Hubbard]

Scott, I was interested in that as well, it was in my original post.  I’m 
considering that and the SMSEagle; both are from Europe.  I can’t find too much 
on them from a real world war stories perspective, but there has been mention 
of the FoxBox on nanog in years past, so there are some users out there.

I am not going the Microtik+cell modem route that Faisal mentioned in his reply 
post because the intent is to tie the SMS alerting into other systems using 
some form of API, and both FoxBox and SMSEagle make that incredibly easy by 
having a simple http interface for sending texts, or a full API if you need to 
do two way.  The nagios plugin (and Zabbix too) are super simple since it’s 
just HTTP POST to send the alerts.

FoxBox claims it will work on Verizon networks because of the 3G support, but 
that doesn’t leave me with a comfortable feeling, so if we buy in, we’d 
probably get accounts from a GSM carrier for it, although I can’t find whether 
or not AT, etc. offer machine accounts, and I would not want to pay $50/mo 
per device just to send random texts.

I did get an off list reply from someone who let me know that our existing 
OpenGear devices (cell+ethernet console servers that run linux) have the 
ability to send SMS using a utility already present in the OS install.  Since 
we already have those in every location we’d also be putting an SMS gateway, 
I’m going to investigate if we could put a cgi script or something similar on 
them to accomplish the same goal with no additional equipment.

David




On 1/7/16, 3:34 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Scott Fisher"  wrote:

>Does anyone having experience getting this to work on US networks?
>
>http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-lx800-gateway-100.html/
>
>I am interested on getting this working with our Nagios notifications.
>
>On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 PM, John Levine  wrote:
>>>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. 
>>>We used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
>>>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 
>>>phone bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
>>>carefully!
>>
>> Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
>> something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
>> data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Scott

Re: SMS gateways

[Miles Fidelman]

There are also services that do it for you.  In my day job (Transit 
related software), we use textmarks.com to provide interactive transit 
information ("where's my bus" kinds of things) via interactive SMS.  Not 
particularly expensive.



On 1/6/16 2:36 PM, David Hubbard wrote:

Hey all, was curious if anyone has opinions on the FoxBox vs SMS Eagle boxes 
for sending SMS alerts directly to the cell network?

http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-iq.html/
http://www.smseagle.eu/store/en/devices/1-sms-eagle.html

Any alternative options would be appreciated too.  I saw Microcom’s iSMS modem 
mentioned in the list archives but it’s only 2G so likely won’t be viable much 
longer.

The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is whether or not 
you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans for use by these types 
of devices.  We have all of our OpenGear out of band console servers on Verizon and 
they have these special ‘machine’ plans for $10/mo with very limited bandwidth, so 
that has allowed us to deploy a bunch of them without worrying about a huge phone 
bill.

Thanks,

David



--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   Yogi Berra

Re: SMS gateways

[Mel Beckman]

The problem with Internet-based services is that they depend on the very thing 
most of us are trying to monitor. For reliable SMS you need out-of-band text 
transmission at least, and ideally out-of-band TCP/IP data. So far cellular 
modems provide lots of options for the latter, but I've seen few 
universally-available choices for the former. I plan to check out the Verizon 
options mentioned here -- the last time I tried to talk to our business exec, 
they claimed there were no cheap options.

 -mel


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Miles Fidelman 
<mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:57 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SMS gateways

There are also services that do it for you.  In my day job (Transit
related software), we use textmarks.com to provide interactive transit
information ("where's my bus" kinds of things) via interactive SMS.  Not
particularly expensive.


On 1/6/16 2:36 PM, David Hubbard wrote:
> Hey all, was curious if anyone has opinions on the FoxBox vs SMS Eagle boxes 
> for sending SMS alerts directly to the cell network?
>
> http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-iq.html/
> http://www.smseagle.eu/store/en/devices/1-sms-eagle.html
>
> Any alternative options would be appreciated too.  I saw Microcom’s iSMS 
> modem mentioned in the list archives but it’s only 2G so likely won’t be 
> viable much longer.
>
> The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is whether or 
> not you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans for use by these 
> types of devices.  We have all of our OpenGear out of band console servers on 
> Verizon and they have these special ‘machine’ plans for $10/mo with very 
> limited bandwidth, so that has allowed us to deploy a bunch of them without 
> worrying about a huge phone bill.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   Yogi Berra

Re: SMS gateways

[David Hubbard]

The specific phrase you’ll want to use with your VZ rep is a “machine to 
machine” plan.  It’s the same type of plans alarm companies purchase for 
cell-backups.  They have plans with data allowances as low as 1 MB/month for a 
few dollars, but you get destroyed if you go over the plan because the data 
rates are very high.  If you just use them for emergency OOB ssh over cell 
they’re great and economical.

David




On 1/6/16, 5:14 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman"  wrote:

>The problem with Internet-based services is that they depend on the very thing 
>most of us are trying to monitor. For reliable SMS you need out-of-band text 
>transmission at least, and ideally out-of-band TCP/IP data. So far cellular 
>modems provide lots of options for the latter, but I've seen few 
>universally-available choices for the former. I plan to check out the Verizon 
>options mentioned here -- the last time I tried to talk to our business exec, 
>they claimed there were no cheap options.
>
> -mel

Re: SMS gateways

[Mel Beckman]

David,

Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. We 
used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits, but had to abandon that after some 
wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 phone bills. I'll check the plan overage 
terms carefully!

 -mel



From: David Hubbard <dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 2:37 PM
To: Mel Beckman; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SMS gateways

The specific phrase you’ll want to use with your VZ rep is a “machine to 
machine” plan.  It’s the same type of plans alarm companies purchase for 
cell-backups.  They have plans with data allowances as low as 1 MB/month for a 
few dollars, but you get destroyed if you go over the plan because the data 
rates are very high.  If you just use them for emergency OOB ssh over cell 
they’re great and economical.

David




On 1/6/16, 5:14 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org 
on behalf of m...@beckman.org> wrote:

>The problem with Internet-based services is that they depend on the very thing 
>most of us are trying to monitor. For reliable SMS you need out-of-band text 
>transmission at least, and ideally out-of-band TCP/IP data. So far cellular 
>modems provide lots of options for the latter, but I've seen few 
>universally-available choices for the former. I plan to check out the Verizon 
>options mentioned here -- the last time I tried to talk to our business exec, 
>they claimed there were no cheap options.
>
> -mel

Re: SMS gateways

[John Levine]

>Thanks for those pointers. The "mega bill" problem is one I have to avoid. We 
>used to use ISDN as backup to T1 circuits,
>but had to abandon that after some wayward fail-overs resulted in $5000 phone 
>bills. I'll check the plan overage terms
>carefully!

Sounds like an excellent application for a $10/mo prepaid plan on
something like Tracfone.  If disaster strikes and you need a lot of
data one month, you can add extra credit directly from the phone.

SMS gateways

[David Hubbard]

Hey all, was curious if anyone has opinions on the FoxBox vs SMS Eagle boxes 
for sending SMS alerts directly to the cell network?

http://www.smsfoxbox.it/en/foxbox-iq.html/
http://www.smseagle.eu/store/en/devices/1-sms-eagle.html

Any alternative options would be appreciated too.  I saw Microcom’s iSMS modem 
mentioned in the list archives but it’s only 2G so likely won’t be viable much 
longer.

The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is whether or 
not you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans for use by these 
types of devices.  We have all of our OpenGear out of band console servers on 
Verizon and they have these special ‘machine’ plans for $10/mo with very 
limited bandwidth, so that has allowed us to deploy a bunch of them without 
worrying about a huge phone bill.

Thanks,

David

Re: SMS gateways

[cmaurand]

On 2016-01-06 16:28, John Levine wrote:
The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is 
whether or not you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans 
for use by these types of devices.


AT and T-Mo both have cheap MVNOs (resellers.)  Airvoice Wireless 
resells AT
and has a $10/mo plan, texts charged at 2c each with any extra rolling 
over to

the next month.

Tracfone has a variety of AT bring your own device plans, of which
one of the the cheapest is $18 every 90 days, including 180 texts, any 
extra

rolls over.  If you need more than that, you can top up 1000 texts for
$10 at any time.

These are both SIM-only plans, put the SIM in whatever device you want.

R's,
John


There's lots of providers out there complete with api's.  I found one in 
Canada with 1 cent per each sms to US and Canada and 3 cents each 
anywhere else.  If you want a dedicated long code, that'll cost you 
$25.00 per month.


Cheers,
Curtis

Re: SMS gateways

[John Levine]

>The other question, given the fact that they’re both GSM-based, is whether or 
>not you know if AT or T-Mobile have cheap ‘machine’ plans for use by these 
>types of devices.

AT and T-Mo both have cheap MVNOs (resellers.)  Airvoice Wireless resells AT
and has a $10/mo plan, texts charged at 2c each with any extra rolling over to
the next month.

Tracfone has a variety of AT bring your own device plans, of which
one of the the cheapest is $18 every 90 days, including 180 texts, any extra
rolls over.  If you need more than that, you can top up 1000 texts for
$10 at any time.

These are both SIM-only plans, put the SIM in whatever device you want.

R's,
John